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The recent uproar about Barack Obama's pastor has pushed a very explosive issue into the presidential campaign. The issue of our country's history with regard to race is one that Senator Obama literally embodies in his physical being as well as various political stances he has taken.

I'm responding to the attacks that he has endured because of the statements made by his pastor Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Obama has pointed out the failures our nation has made in trying to live up to the words in the Constitution of the United States which state that "all men are created equal."

Undoubtedly, black Americans have had the worst time of any ethnic group in trying to benefit from that concept. The vitriol in Rev. Wright's words is a direct result of what he sees when he reviews how that has played out throughout the history of this country. This is not to say that there has been no progress made in those situations, but sadly that progress has been too often slow and grudgingly acquired. Because of the nature of the problems, which in many cases were started in the 19th Century, Americans in this day and age have to pay for issues that they didn't cause and shouldn't have to fix. But nonetheless we are stuck with the tab.

An example of this situation can be seen in the mess that developed in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina struck. Racist policies that were in place in the 1920s and 30s caused a hugely disproportionate share of grief to fall on the shoulders of the black residents of New Orleans. The decision to build homes in an area that is 12 to 15 feet below sea level, immediately adjacent to a lake and also located on a shoreline that sees hurricanes every hurricane season could only be seen as wishful thinking. This disaster was bound to happen whenever a hurricane hit the coastline somewhere near New Orleans. A direct hit wasn't even needed to inflict damages.

The incompetence and unpreparedness of the authorities who where supposed to do something about the disaster was seen by blacks as racism pure and simple. But actually the folks at FEMA were trying to straighten out a situation created by racist policies put in place 80 or 90 years ago. Again and again these situations rear up and bite us all and create more bitterness and distrust between different sectors of Americans.

Reverend Wright suggested in one of his sermons that AIDS was intentionally allowed to infect people because it would probably do most of its damage in the black community. White Americans see this view point as racist paranoia. But black Americans remember the Tuskegee experiment when black men who had syphilis were left untreated intentionally so the progress of the disease could be studied by government doctors. This actually happened and its memory has caused a collective distrust of doctors in the black community for which white Americans can not see any rational basis. Again we are stuck with dealing with the evil deeds that were done before many of us were born.

Many of those situations were created by the response of the people of the Old Confederacy who used the law to attempt to permanently insure that blacks would never be able to achieve equal treatment in any of the Southern States. The failure of Reconstruction to secure the human and civil rights of black Americans is the real problem at the root of the lingering racial tension in America. Southern citizens wanted to make sure that no black person could rise up from the poverty and ignorance that had been imposed on them from the days of slavery. Violence was a key component in enforcing the Jim Crow laws. Between 1889 and 1918, 2,522 blacks were lynched in America and nothing was done about it. I can remember the picture of Emmett Till who was murdered in1955. There was a trial of those accused of the killing but an all-white jury acquitted the accused in very short order. The people of Mississippi were very defiant in stating how sure they were that the accused would be found 'innocent', which was what happened. Soon after the verdict came in the murderer sold an article to Look Magazine which gave the details of the kidnapping, torture and death of Emmitt Till. The white people of Mississippi had nothing to say at that point and the rest of America seemed to shrug off the results as a quaint episode of Southern life. Contrast that scenario with the response to the murder of Nicole Simpson. When you do that you will get a sense of why Black Americans are so paranoid about the actual reality of equal protection under the law. Just last week the Supreme Court threw out the conviction of a black man who lost his case in court because the prosecutor succeeded in his plan to eliminate all blacks from the jury. The OJ trial was mentioned during the time the case was in front of the jury.

White Americans could not consider the reality of police brutality against blacks. It took the Rodney King incident to start any real change in attitudes on that subject. If Rodney King had tried to accuse the cops who beat him of brutality he would have gotten nowhere. He was after all a large black man with a criminal record who was undoubtedly breaking the law. No white jurors would consider taking his word over the testimony of the cops. The only thing that changed the situation was an undeniable video tape that proved to anyone with any common sense that the beating was way beyond a routine traffic stop. It doesn't surprise black Americans that DNA testing has uncovered dozens of unjustly convicted black prisoners. The faulty eyewitness testimony that figured so prominently in the conviction of these men is another symptom of racial divide. White jurors are too often comfortable with doubtful testimony if the accused is black. Prosecutors can make their careers by keeping those dangerous black thugs off the streets. Justice falls by the wayside in far too many cases.

I am mentioning these events to give a more complete background to Rev. Wright's comments from his pulpit. From his perspective, America is not always able to deliver on some very important issues and the effect on him over time is to become enraged and at times to overreact. The wonderful thing about life in America is that we can address and remedy even the worst of problems when the collective will of our nation comes into play. The Civil Rights movement would never have achieved what it did if this were not true. That potential gives us the hope that Senator Obama so articulately identifies as the force that can bring us together to affect positive change. I for one hope that people will unite and work together to make sure that the unfortunate events of the past do not kill the positive potential of our future. Together we can make the dreams of the Founding Fathers a reality for all Americans.

For more blogs by Kareem visit www.latimes.com/kareem

 
 

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this debate, here on this board, is like a tennis match. backhand shots, lob's, yelling at the ref., instant replays, everyone hoping that we end the match tied ---- love all ---- lets just hope that at the end, we jump over the net and shake hands. -------------------------- would anyone like to try mud wrestling ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 PM on 03/30/2008

folks here are constantly mis-spelling names here. Why should Kareem Abdul-Jabbar be any differnt?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 PM on 03/30/2008

shukran! this post is in order because of the vast chasm in shared experience/perception between black and white. there is a real need to point out to so many whites STILL these days the notion that one's racial self-awareness (literally - being conscious of one's own race) is an issue the darker one's skin tone is.

allah 'alaiak

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:34 PM on 03/30/2008

Mr. Abdul-Jabbar,

The Reverend Wright could take action to undo some of the damage that has been done to Obama's campaign.

Here's another perspective.

Some of those who have sought to defend, excuse, or explain Wright's position have looked at him and they see a Black man.

Others have looked at Wright and see a man who is partly Black and partly White.

Some may call him "Black," but in reality he is a Black-White descendent. He is unquestionably a descendant of those who engaged in Black slavery.

Whether Wright's comments do not fully portray the man, his comments sound like hate-White speech.

His speech was not hate speech directed towards his White ancestors. It was partly directed towards the wealthy, but it wasn't directed towards all wealthy indivduals who are unquestionably the descendants of slave holders and slave traders.

Instead, it was directed towards Whites, including (1) those who are the descendants who fought against the South to free the slaves, (2) those who are the descendants of those who lived in the South but never owned or traded in slaves, (3) those who are the descendants of those who owned slaves but do not share the same attitudes as their slave-owning or slave-trading ancestors, and (4) those who came or whose ancestors to America after the Civil War.

Now, Wright can help Obama if he can truthfully say that he does not have hate in his heart for those who are White.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 03/30/2008

What an eloquent and profound piece of work. Case by case, you recount the reasons why so many members of the African American family feel they way they do. And to anyone who's mind is open, it is truth that cannot be denied or ignored. Our nation was founded the same way it is today...conflicted. There was much hope and promise for a great nation, yet at the same time, for many people in many parts of the country, that promise was unattainable. There were some Founding Father's who never owned slaves, yet many who did. There were people of this country who believed that enslavement was wrong, and many felt it just fine. Today some of us believe that that injustice does frame many members of the black community attitudes and rightfully so, while others believe they should get over it. Some think that it is ok to have a public conversation about it, while others believe we should move on. I believe that the conflicted part in all of us can be filled with an understanding that we all share some blame, but we can all be part of the solution. Americans are good people. We can lose our way, but we can find our way back. We can do it together. And we can do it right this time. Now is the chance to heal our divides and come together once and for all. Peace.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 PM on 03/30/2008

How will you convince a non-racist person of a younger generation that it is their burden to pay for everything from the past- literally. We are handing them a world with huge debts, broken healthcare, massive portions of the population retiring, the highest prisoner per capita in the world. We all need tot stop looking from the prism of self. Yes, history gives reasons to do this but our future is about "Hitching our wagons together" as Senator Obama said. His popularity is not about his skin color, but more about his generational perspective of leadership. He is actually talking about the problems we face together more than the ones we need to leave behind. The self-reflexive view of only seeing issues based on skin color needs to change because it is a paradigm shift that will benefit all. Injustice is bad for everyone. Imprisoning people to a such a high rate, when they could be productive members of society is bad for everyone. Bad drug laws are bad for everyone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 PM on 03/30/2008

Pointing out injustice is fair. But Rev. Wright incorrectly said that the Tuskeegee men were given syphillis not denied treatment. The inference he made to inflame the crowd is that Aids was purposely a racist plot, but originally the majority of victims were homosexual. While there is reason to not be naive that racism still exists, there is also wisdom to stop trying to guilt a new generation to believing that they are racist when actual examination of young people shows that is not the case more than any other time in our history. Stirring up the masses to believe they are perpetual victims only serves the ego of the speaker, not the audience. It excuses not taking responsibility for our own conditions in life. It is a message of hopelessness. Our children are living in a new world with different views. Victimhood versus responsibility is the question.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 PM on 03/30/2008

You fail to note that by not treating the men with syphilis, those same men probably infected their wives and/or girlfriends/boyfriends with the disease who, in turn, likely infected others. Purposefully not treating diseases that are contagious is tantamount to knowingly infecting people, is it not? Even if one does not see that connection, it's easy to understand why someone would believe that people capable of non-treatment for "scientific" purposes, are equally capable of knowingly infecting a "patient" for those same purposes. The issue becomes one of trust. If I were a black man, I would not trust my government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 PM on 03/30/2008

mr. abdul jabbar,

your point on race is well taken, your catalog of events highlighting these events in our history has only once again to let see how the uproar over rev. wright's comments have sparked the debate once more. o, how the truth hurts, what a media rush it was to put a racial spin on these comments while ignoring the other possible issue that these comments weren't about race as defined 50 or even 100 yrs ago. these comments were about America today, from the view of a man who lived through these events and relates them to our current events. racism today isn't about black and white but, don't misunderstand that it's still there but also realize that the color range has increased as well. racism today is the worse of all because it's economic racism. new orleans is a true example of this and several years later it goes on with less and less attention by our media and government. i'll leave with this, when rev. wrights comments went national one thing was clear, all debate and news media stops reporting on issues involving matters of education, healthcare, jobs, etc... even iraq. now was rev. wright's comments so profound that everything else came to a halt. PLEASE

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 AM on 03/30/2008

I view the issue as more of an ideological struggle rather than one of race.

The rest of the industrialized, civilized world, -including our neighbors to the north and south- have already incorporated some elements of socialism based on the needs of their people. We also incorporate socialism we just refuse to use the term. In addition to socialism we fund a large and expensive welfare state favoring business owners -large and small- via tax subsidies. Even so-called small business owners, including family owned businesses with maybe one or two family employees, pay far less in tax than do the majority or working class/middle class Americans. This is unjust and unfair and it is destroying our nation.

The class system in America is where we are failing. It is the issue we need to unite around and regardless of race or religion you should be supporting the kinds of changes necessary to create a more equitable and just society.

Despite some of the pastors more controversial statements, I feel his views on social justice are in line with where we are going as a nation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 AM on 03/30/2008

Excellent post Sir!!!!!!!!
Would some of the folks on here Please Spell Kareem's Name right, A little respect !!!!!!!!!
And all the folks STILL spazing out on Rev. Wright.
As Tavis Smiley quoted Fredrick Douglas Last night, "A TRUE PATRIOT is someone who LOVES their Country, And rebukes her and does NOT forgive her SINS"!!!!!!!!!
Stop drinking the tasty Fox Flavored Kool-Aid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
being a Baa baa close minded sheeple, is just plain nasty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 AM on 03/30/2008

"A society at peace with itself wouldn't have reacted in the way it did to the partly true/partly crazy remarks of Obama's former pastor." Matt Taibbi ~ Rollingstone

Let me quote Matt's comments a little further. They are appropos for this post:

"...but whether or not any of Wright's "controversial" statements have any validity at all is beside the point. The point is that a country that had any balls at all -- that was secure enough in its patriotic self-image to stare vicious criticism right in the face and collectively decide for itself, in a state of sober reflection, what part of it was bullshit and what wasn't -- such a country wouldn't do what it did in the case of the Wright flap, which is to panic instantly, collectively leap off the ground in terror like a bunch of silly bitches, and chase the criticism away in a torch-bearing mob with its eyes averted without even bothering to talk about what was actually said.

Yet naturally this is what was done in this case; the very first response of the entire national media apparatus was to denounce Wright as a kind of living disease and shriekingly demand that Obama do the same."

http://alternet.org/election08/80577/

I found his article (at Alternet.org) to be spot on with regard to our country and our panic attacks of late.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 AM on 03/30/2008

The Rolling Stone article from Matt Taibbi you posted should shock the crap out of the mainstream CNN, FOX, ABC, CBS, NBC, cable networks media. That this article was written to appeal to the marijuana prone audience that is the Rolling Stone's membership only highlights the addle-mindedness of the audience of the regular media. I always wondered why Obama never straight out said the obvious; the Wright experience is very real in MANY black american's lives and is something he, Obama, intends to resolve. Oh well, better late than never.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 03/30/2008

Mr. Abdul-Jabbar, great post, wonderful insight. Thank you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 AM on 03/30/2008

Kareem made the hook shot look balletic. He accomplished the move equally well with either arm. It was rare to see any other player hit this graceful shot from eight to twelve feet, as Kareem did consistently. My favorite movie role for him was in Airplane, as the pilot who would not admit to the boy he was Kareem until he finally confessed how difficult it was running alongside Walton for 40 minutes. Thanks for your writing, Kareem, on many subjects. I would especially like to read your book on when you coached the young boys on the Indian reservation. Kareem is also a jazz aficionado and a Renaisance man.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 AM on 03/28/2008

Please don't speak for Black America. You, Obama, all black people. All people in general... Speak for yourselves, and don't pretend or assume to know what is going on with Black America. or any other community.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:14 PM on 03/27/2008

So, who can speak of trends in thought in any community? How can there be understanding if there is no discourse on a level above individual opinion?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 PM on 03/30/2008

If everyone who watches Rev. Wright on you tube, sees the point of this article. just imagine the opportunity there'd be to hasten the kind of change that Sen. Obama speaks of.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 03/27/2008

My guess is that many white people are playing the hurt and angry victim card now to avoid Obama's invitation for a national discussion on race. But I believe many more white people are past ready to accept Obama's invitation to discuss and clear up race relations and then clean up Bush's mess as a more united nation. If white people insist on falling for the right's tactics of polarization, hook line and sinker, then we'll never clean up Bush's mess, ever.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 AM on 03/27/2008

Wasn't Geraldine Ferarro discussing race? How can white people express their views freely when they are charged with racism if the left doesn't like what they have to say? Obama and Kareem play the race card when they try to justify Wright's hatred of whites.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 AM on 03/31/2008

Kareem.

You have done your homework. You articulated the support of what you claimed on this blog and I am truely liked how you supported that claim.

Thank you. It is nice to see someone take the time to wright a good article that took the time to do the "due deligence".

I support Hillary, but few posts put in good weight as yours just did.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 AM on 03/27/2008

cybersense

Very well said. You don't have to be an Obama hater to see what is going on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 03/27/2008

Hmmm. I thought Rodney had led police on a chase. Odd that omission. I think Wright can be forgiven, because he isn't running for President. The bitterness can be understood as well. But Obama (or any black candidate) has to be able to use some kind of judgment when dealing with extreme points of view (certainly not seen as a fan). I'm afraid that Obama can be empathized with, along with the black community, but the Wright incident is going to hurt him A LOT if he manages to overcome the greatest obstacle to black people today (the Clintons) and makes it to November.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 AM on 03/27/2008

yeah, he did...but if he had been white do you REALLY think they would have beat the crap out of him with their clubs....yeah, me neither....
the founding fathers left this "stain" in the constitution, because it was such a volitale subject even in their time.....their thinking was that it would be corrected in the future and/or simply die out as they had basically restricted it to the states (generally southern) that had it.
i believe the most unfortunate thing that occured and slowed the progress of our incorporating ex-slaves into our society was the assasination of lincoln...that set us back 100 years...hence the civil rights act of 1964, when the guilt and abuses could no longer be tolerated....now that was a GREAT president....if you remember nothing else about lincoln, remember this phrase, "with malice towards none"...truly a great and humble person...(a great read on him is goodwins book "team of rivals"...a guide book on how the founding fathers intended us to govern ourselves.....inclusive of ALL, even your "rivals" (of both parties) not just a partisan or wealthy few.....king george should be horsewhipped every time he compares himself to lincoln...makes it very clear how little he knows and respects history....
i'm looking forward to someone in the white house that ACTUALLY cares and can converse on this and ALL subjects important not only to the usa, but the world....YES WE CAN.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 AM on 03/27/2008

Instead of hate, what Wright should have been preaching to his congregation was a message to the black community about curing it's social ills and counsel on how to take advantage of the opportunity available to them TODAY. By constantly bringing up the past with such incediary sermons is doing his black community a disservice and only solidifies the victim mentality.

The issue of discrimination and inquality today is an ecomonic one. I am white. Born poor in a ghetto demographers deemed the poorest white urban enclave in America back in the mid-90's. Father went to prison for life when I was six. Raised on welfare by mother. Violence, drugs & crime rampant in my neighborhood. Food in short supply at home come the end of the month. All the built-in excuses were right there for me to use to justify a life of the same. Instead I chose to take advantage of the opportunity America afforded me. I worked hard got an education, and have built a great life. Success is proportional to the degree in which you excercise your mind and talents. Has nothing to do with race or sex anymore. There are literally thousands of examples. At some point Americans need to stop browbeating America for slavery and recognize the progress that has been made. Let's move forward and drop the race debate because it will only open wounds and further divide the country. Let's be greatful and work together making the country even greater.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 AM on 03/27/2008

Hey, I live in a country that taught me that protest and openly criticizing the short-comings of our government is encouraged in the Constitution. None of the sermons I've listened to of Reverend Wright has advocated violence or hatred. As a matter of fact, he's tempered his anger with the counterpoint view of the rabbi of Nazareth and the profits of the Hebrew Bible. He's still an angry old man sometimes.

I liken the racial situation to two people who are married to each other. The guy may have grown up in a particular environment, while his wife has come from a totally different background.
Every time they have a discussion on a difficult topic, he says "C'mon honey the answer is simple, you just take your big strong muscles, your take-charge attitude, break through the situation. What's the problem?"
She will look at him and say something to the effect; "Not all problems can be solved with a penis."

After they have used their unique vantage points to confront a problem, an outside agent sits them down and replays the video of their heated discussion. Did they then understand that they were approaching their problems with a highly personal bias? No. They then used those biases to rationalize their responses to the video.

Remember the TV reality show that had a black and white family switch races? It opened up the dialog when it came out and perhaps should be attempted again.

e pluribus unum

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 03/30/2008

As long as blacks embrace their 'victim mentality', they will remain victims. People like Rev. Wright, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are about keeping guilt alive, not moving forward. There is political power and money to be made from fanning this fire. Kareems post is full of inaccuracy and drivel based on that mentality, nothing more. Rev. Wrights statements are indefensible, vile and clearly aimed at those who are too lazy or too stupid to see how they are being manipulated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 AM on 03/30/2008

The human body has an amazing way of healing itself. However, the RACE sore is one if left UNATTENDED will continue to FESTER.

Mr. Obama was right in opening this great dialogue. If we don't talk about it and look for opportunities to change our feelings and perceptions about each other, HEALING WILL NEVER TAKE PLACE.

Even if this controversy had not happened at this time and Mr. Obama becomes President, the SORE would STILL BE THERE.

THIS IS A CONVERSATION WE CAN ILL-AFFORD NOT TO HAVE!!! I am praying to God that we are able to have this conversation once and for all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 AM on 03/30/2008

Good for you. I applaud your diligence and success. But, many Blacks like me have done the same thing. What about the poor whites left behind in your community? Is the government doing enough, given the taxes your relatives and former(?) neighbors pay, to help end the blight and poverty in your home? Doubtful. We African Americans get tired of people saying let's forget and move on. Japanese ancestors of the internment camps of WWII got reparations. Yet, when Black Americans speak of the need for the same for us, non-Black Americans are up in arms. Why is that? Rev. Wright and other Black preachers will continue to preach the truth about our experience in the USA (as they should). When Anglo ministers like Robertson and Falwell are condemned for their racist speech - by the politicians that back them, maybe criticism of Obama will ring more true. America is not ready for a Black man in the whitehouse. That much is clear and has been from the start of this campaign (I don't care what Obama's delegate count is!). That is all this controversy has shown. If Senator Clinton is not the Democratic nominee, prepare yourselves for four to eight years more of chaotic, irrational, Republicanism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 AM on 03/27/2008

antworks. the poor whites left back in my community continue to play the victim roll by blaming their parents, their environment, and the government when the fact is it comes down to individual choice. I saw first hand the laziness and rampant abuse of social programs. our parents and communities can stack the odds either for us or against us. but it is an individual choice what path you choose. this is why you have folks that beat the odds and folks who grow up in affluent suburban environments in loving two parent homes with the deck stacked in their favor who can't get their lives together. I do not mean to make light of the black experience in this country. there is no doubt it has been the toughest of any race. I can relate to the inner city cycle of poverty, crime, drugs that are a common experience for many blacks though. The fact is that today if you are a black person the best chance you have of being successful and living a happy prosperous life is here in America. Nowhere else in the world. At some point we do have to move on. What is the alternative?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 PM on 03/27/2008

cf864 - your answer shows a woeful ignorance of hard science. And your ignorance is the cause of the terrible anger found in the black community.

One example - jazz. Jazz is a unique form of music which was created by blacks and originated in New Orleans. Yet blacks were not allowed to play jazz on Basin Street forty years ago. Just whites. Louis Armstrong was sent around the world to tout America's wonders but he couldn't live where whites lived or stay in a white hotel or eat at the restaurant in a bus stop. Successful whites have to fight much harder for a good education, a good job, a good home and good neighbors. They are suspected even when they are sleeping in a car but whites who are openly committing crimes are ignored.

I've been and I've seen and I've heard and it is so natural that the mind boggles.

Your pathetic statement that blacks are better off in America than anywhere else is one more example of your amazing ignorance and bigotry. Reading your comment one can certainly understand why Wright said what he said and it is hard to think he wasn't right. Read the speech in its entirety.

Women are better off in America than in Afghanistan but that is hardly a reason for accepting the abuse women are subjected to at all levels of society. It happens because they are women and in America women are inferior to men ipso facto.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 AM on 03/30/2008

Thank you for responding cf864. I can only respond thus: The Gospel says there will always be the poor. But, Jesus says also, that when you do something to help the least amongst us you bring glory to his name (to paraphrase HIM). I am not so concerned with my success or lack thereof, anymore. America is the richest country on the face of the earth. Yet, we have pockets of staggering poverty all across this land. Corporate welfare saps more money from the treasury than social programs.. Then we find jobs being shipped overseas. Finally, I still can't understand the fact that "open air drug selling markets" are allowed to exist in the Black communities of the US except one way. Someone (in the plural sense) has deemed it acceptable to have such criminality go on in broad daylight! Someone in government! Today, this and this alone is the major reason most of the dysfunctionality goes on in our communities. The same thing would not be allowed to happen in white communities. The cops would ride down on them in a heartbeat. I do not agree that a Black person can be more successful in the US than anywhere in the world. If you are capable, you can succeed anywhere in the world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:14 PM on 03/27/2008

Where the hell you been bro.? Yours is the most thoughtful post I've seen on this subject. Pres. Johnson should've been giving jobs, instead of stamps - for all who COULD work, starting a different form of slavery. If more were like you, who has been in a place to really understand different views, these dialogues would be unnecessary. I've been a lot of things in my life - but victim wasn't one. When ANY person spits TRUTH, you make "LIGHT", of nothing. I rage at racism, wherever I see it. Black / White/Brown /Yellow, and rage at the idea of asking anyone for a "hand up", even when needed. Even my "pale" friends(also smart), could formulate succinct thought like that. I keep screaming this isn't about color anymore - that's the ploy to keep all races fighting, while "elitists" steal the American Dream, out the back door like a thief in the night. Where ya been bro, where ya been? : )