The real experience Hillary Clinton gained during her years in the White House has finally been revealed: she learned, just like her husband, how to manipulate words to cover up her lies.

Just as Bill used "It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is" in front of the grand jury to mask his lies about Monica Lewinsky, Hillary is now using "sleep deprivation" and "misspoke" and "it proves I'm human" to soft sell her hyperbolic tale of ducking sniper fire in Bosnia. I can't wait to see the video showing what she was really doing in Ireland when she claims to have been "deeply involved in the Irish peace process" (a claim that David Trimble, who received the Nobel Peace Prize for his actual involvement in the effort, called a "wee bit silly").

Do we really want to subject ourselves to this verbal abuse for the next four years?

I'm glad Hillary, when presented with irrefutable video evidence, finally admitted she "made a mistake" about her trip to Bosnia. I just wish she would also finally admit she was wrong about her vote authorizing the president to go to war with Iraq. There is plenty of irrefutable evidence of that too.


 
 

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- siri2k See Profile I'm a Fan of siri2k

All that anyone feared Clinton would be has come forth in spades.
What part of this outrageous lie and her below the belt, gutter tactics don't people understand? What has anyone NOT learned about the Bush years, and the Clinton years before them, that they are ready to sign on for four more years of secrets and lies and manipulations? Corporate hand feeding, revisionist history and "it's always all about Hillary" maneuvering?
WAKE UP America, all of you who would cast a vote for this horrific creature/creation of the worst of the beltway. Please! Lest our once great nation is cast and swirling down the bowl. AGAIN!
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 PM on 03/31/2008
- CTA See Profile I'm a Fan of CTA

no No NO NO NO!

It wasn't a lie!

It was simply a vast media conspiracy...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 PM on 03/30/2008
- LeftyLadig See Profile I'm a Fan of LeftyLadig

uh, a right wing conspiracy?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 AM on 03/31/2008
- dadw5boys See Profile I'm a Fan of dadw5boys

Hillary Clinton LEARNED that the people in control of the U.S. GOVERNMENT will destroy it before they will give the American People anything like National Health Care.

Look at your government now!

Jimmy Carter set the USA on the path to getting free of the Saudi's and the Oil Companys just like J F K set the USA on the road to technology development.

Regean come along and DESTROYS EVERYTHING that helped or protected the American Peopl but dropped trillions into corporations pockets.

THAT WHAT SHE LEARNED AND SHE IS PREPARED TO FACE THEM!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 PM on 03/30/2008
- DoninJoisey See Profile I'm a Fan of DoninJoisey

The people (lobbyists) that control things are funding her campaign. She's been bought and paid for,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 PM on 03/30/2008
- ShanniO See Profile I'm a Fan of ShanniO

Looks like we're coming out of the Twilight Zone on this one -- Gallup just reported a nationwide poll with a 10 point spread: Obama 52 to Clinton 42.

Cheers Ari :} www.myspace.com/shanniobrien

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:57 PM on 03/30/2008
- longislandlol See Profile I'm a Fan of longislandlol

Sad-- when you need to lie it means you need to prove yourself more and more to others... we all do it-- don't be so hard on her...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:36 PM on 03/30/2008
- TruthBeTold4us See Profile I'm a Fan of TruthBeTold4us

I do not understand your justification for Hillary Clinton telling lies, especially as they were not necessary.

We are in a terrible, expensive war in Iraq BECAUSE A PRESIDENT OF THE US LIED TO US about WMD.

THAT is why Hillary Clinton's habitual lying is important. We do not need another president that will stand behind a podium and lie to the press and the American public.

We deserve better than that!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 PM on 03/30/2008
- john44 See Profile I'm a Fan of john44

Ari, stop being shocked, shocked that pols use words to manipulate. You sound like a kid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 PM on 03/30/2008
- Uneverknow See Profile I'm a Fan of Uneverknow

Please show a list of politicians in and out of the White House that hasn't lied and hasn't misrepresented his or her role in any number of matters.
No one likes to be lied to or mislead but it happens daily in blogs, papers and sacred places all over the world. Here's an example..."They have weapons of mass destruction"..."Our soldiers are coming home"..."It will be over as soon as it starts"..."We the people..."

Regardless of political, religious or moral belief, if you think that people leading anything in this world for the sake of all of us, are incapable of editing the truth to get further ahead, gain trust or send our country to war- I feel sorry for you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 03/30/2008
- DoninJoisey See Profile I'm a Fan of DoninJoisey

Is that how low the bar is for you? Carter and Ford weren't liars. Perot wasn't a liar. Obama hasn't lied.

You can continue to defend Clinton lies - I have had enough.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 PM on 03/30/2008
- artsandminds See Profile I'm a Fan of artsandminds

Yes, it happens in the Bush White House and I guess that is ok with you. I for one would rather get away from Bush/Clinton politics, and supporters like you who will support their candidate no matter what, hypocrite.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 03/30/2008
- lafcadio See Profile I'm a Fan of lafcadio

Are you kidding me? It's voters like you who overlook brazen liars like Hillary that is responsible for the mess we're in. If you vote for a bold-faced liar, don't be suprise if she lies us into another war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 PM on 03/30/2008
- Boadicea See Profile I'm a Fan of Boadicea

So, you think we should just turn a blind eye to all that lying? You don't think it's a problem?

You don't think that if we know a candidate lies a lot before we've even nominated her that we shouldn't have a problem with it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 03/30/2008
- Boadicea See Profile I'm a Fan of Boadicea

Playing loose with the truth is an undeniable pattern with Hillary.

She does a terrible disservice to women and to feminism with this lying. Imagine if, instead of practicing what the military calls "valor theft" Hillary had told the truth and said:

"When I went to Bosnia, I went as the wife of the President and did all the things a president's wife does - attend a short greeting ceremony, shake a lot of hands, visit our peacekeeping soldiers.

But what we don"t see are all of the conversations that go on between first ladies and heads of state. These conversations make a substantial contribution to the dialogue and provide many opportunities to gain information and skills. I learned a lot about what was really going on in Bosnia on that visit. And I learned a lot during every trip I made."

That is the truth. So often, our society dismisses the roles that women play because there is a man in front of her. We see it over and over again, throughout history, in Science, in Art, and everywhere in between.

Instead of becoming a champion of the contributions women in her situation make, instead of enlightening the country about the role she really did play, she lied.

Very, very sad. It makes me think, as I often have about Hillary, that underneath all of the tough feminist role-playing, there sits a person who is ashamed to be a woman.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 PM on 03/30/2008
- DoninJoisey See Profile I'm a Fan of DoninJoisey

That, and "The Iraq war vote was not a vote to go to war with Iraq". Edwards admitted he was wrong to have supported the Iraq war - Hillary won't.
She will admit no wrongs. After 7 years of one who admits no wrongs, I've had enough.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 PM on 03/30/2008
- SteveCox See Profile I'm a Fan of SteveCox

I don't like what you have to say or your tone, Ari. You, and all of ObamaNation have chosen a bad path; a path to certain defeat. You have gone scorched earth on Hillary and all the people who support her, and you will never recover. It is ironic how much Obamameanies whine about Hillary being Tonya Harding, you've been the knee cappers all along. Read the posts and blogs on this site if you have ANY doubt of what I say is true.

That is going to be what cost the election. You are not going to elect the first black prez in this climate! It is going to take a perfect storm. You underestimating the power or racisim in this country and attacking friends as if they are the bushies is going to seal the fate. Mccain is going to be lucky after all.

It's over, inho and your egos and and anger lost the thing for us all.

There is only one way to rectify, stop the attacks, offer an olive branch that means something and start being realistic about Obama.

OK?

Hillary at least offerered VP, her version of HC plan, othere people working in admin, responsibility for Iraq and getting UN involved. Use Bill, too. If you can't do that, then I look fowarcd to being a Mccain Dem.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 PM on 03/30/2008
- nohat See Profile I'm a Fan of nohat

If we have gone 'scorched earth on Hillary, perhaps it's because she has gone 'scorched earth' on Obama. All the innuendos and all the praising of McCain, for starters. And the contempt: Obama's experience "is a speech he gave in 2002". It wouldn't shock me to learn that Hillary is behind the Jermiah Wright thing---but even if she isn't, she has treated Obama like dirt, while he has shown her respect, calling her an admirable candidate, this just yesterday.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 03/30/2008
- DoninJoisey See Profile I'm a Fan of DoninJoisey

How true! She lies, gets caught at it, and we're attacking her! unbelievable.

What arrogance -- offered him the VP slot. OBAMA is AHEAD.

The old fear and spin politics are done for.

And what are you talking about - " responsibility for Iraq" - She STILL defends her vote to invade Iraq!!!! The last spin I heard was something like "to prevent Saddam from competing with Bin Laden" - I heard her say it in the last debate - I thought Dick Cheney was channeling thru her.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 PM on 03/30/2008
- TruthBeTold4us See Profile I'm a Fan of TruthBeTold4us

Hillary Clinton even told a lie about 9/11 to gain more importance. In a tv interview a week after 9/11, she claimed Chelsea had been jogging around the trade center when the planes hit & was lucky that she had ducked into a store just before it happened to buy something to drink.

Chelsea was actually 4 miles away, sleeping at a friend's apartment and was in no danger whatsoever.

Lies!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 PM on 03/30/2008
- Annette See Profile I'm a Fan of Annette

You like the current wars? You will love the additional ones McCain has promised us. You out of pique plan to vote for a guy who says he know nothing about the economy. Isn't the current idiot enough?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 03/30/2008
- JackNasty See Profile I'm a Fan of JackNasty

Is Hillary doing everything she can to increase her already sky high negatives?

Winning is everything, even in the race for negatives.

Hillary Clinton/Tonya Harding 2008

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 PM on 03/30/2008
- ariadne1 See Profile I'm a Fan of ariadne1

what i don't understand is the whining and playing the gender card.

the scenario: bar room brawl with 8 men and a woman. the punches are swung, the epithets fly, the bottles are thrown, the men are mostly careful not to hit the woman but every now and then the woman takes a hit... what does she do after willing walking in and joining the fight?

she cries foul, accuses the men of picking on her because she is a woman and cries.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 PM on 03/30/2008
- RichLiberal See Profile I'm a Fan of RichLiberal


Obama has been whining and crying about race for the last 3 months, and the media laps it up. Why shouldn't Hillary do the same thing with gender now? Because the Obama people will start whining and crying that she's not playing fair and she's got that big bully Bill backing her up.

The "O" in Obama stands for ZERO.

How many jobs did the Clintons add to the economy? 22.7 Million.

How many jobs has Obama added to the economy? ZERO.

How much experience does Hillary have applicable for President? 8 White House, 7 Senate.

How much experience does Obama have for President? ZERO.
(he spent whole time in Senate running for President, so he
gained no experience of Senatorial character)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 PM on 03/30/2008
- DoninJoisey See Profile I'm a Fan of DoninJoisey

Bill? Is that you? Experience as "wife of" doesn't count.

What has she done in the senate? Voted for war in Iraq. Voted to make it harder for people to declare bankruptcy. Oh, and named some post offices...

She is OWNED by lobbyists.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 03/30/2008
- MarkieBee See Profile I'm a Fan of MarkieBee

ah, when has Obama been crying about race? Obama has never made himself out to be the Black candidate and tried to stay away from the issue until Bill, Bob Johnson, Sheheen, etc, started talking crap before South Carolina. Yeah, let's talk experience Rich. Obama has 50 percent more elected legislative experience than Hillary and has passed much more substantive legislation as a senator in half the time in the U.S. senate. Please name me one substantive piece of legislation that Hillary has AUTHORED and had signed into law. Finally, a Hillary sock puppet goes on the record as counting her years as first lady as experience suitable for the presidency - what a crock. So should Laura Bush be forming her exploratory committee for her run in 2012? You know she has just as much first lady experience as Hillary. Too bad she doesn't have all that experience under fire though. She would be unbeatable in 2012 with just a little foreign policy/sniper fire experience.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:17 PM on 03/30/2008
- RichLiberal See Profile I'm a Fan of RichLiberal


ah, wake up and realize that your candidate has been exploiting racial tensions and stirring up racial hatred since the beginning of this campaign to use in a reverse-race-baiting strategy to gain himself votes and paint otherwise progressive supporters of Civil Rights, affirmative action and other attempts to improve the racial problems in this country as racists.

This despicable strategy is becoming well-documented and is front and center today in Philadelphia's leading newspaper:

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/opinion/20080330_Obama_was_the_first_to_play_the_race_card.html

And as you will find out, that this is only the first half of this disgusting disgraceful campaign strategy that the Obama campaign has used, which in itself should cause well-meaning Democrats to remove these cynical low-lifes from the front of the Democratic Party as they have currently maneuvered themselves.

The 2nd half of this nightmare is that it is all the brainchild of Ted Kennedy in a hopeless effort to regain his family's "lost" legacy, which is only lost on Ted, not the Democratic Party, and especially not for Bill and Hillary Clinton. This is why Ted is the number one Hillary hater and why he has used his machine to promote Obama to where he is today.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:10 PM on 03/30/2008
- Annette See Profile I'm a Fan of Annette

Darlin, she was the pres' wife for 8 years, she didn't have security clearance, she didn't solve the troubles in Ireland, she didn't come under fire and solve the problems in the balkens. As the pres' wife she didn't add jobs, she didn't have experience as the pres but rather as first lady. That is not a dishonorable posityion but it is not president. Any more than being married to a top scientist makes you Stephen Hawkings. Marriage just is not that sort of qualification. she has also been running for president when a relatively new senator. Her main problem ,however ,is that she LIES.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 PM on 03/30/2008
- RichLiberal See Profile I'm a Fan of RichLiberal


Your views come straight from sexist handbook.

You might learn something by taking 5 minutes to read about Hillary's background.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Rodham_Clinton

Before White House: "She was later named first female partner at Rose Law Firm in 1979 and was listed as one of one hundred most influential lawyers in America in 1988, 1991." (easily tops Obama's law experience)

92 campaign: http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-hillarydecisions27nov27,1,5224855.story
"Involved she was, and in everything. She used her ties to NewYork legal circles to raise cash, tap political pros. While staffers took breather on bus caravan through Texas, oldfriend Bill Burton watched as "Hillary took charge of press release on natural-gas policy." As she peppered her husband's aides with strategy, she was empire-building -- cherry-picking loyalists who would work at core of her WhiteHouse staff."

Here is quote on her role in WhiteHouse: "She was first First Lady to hold post-graduate degree[118] and to have her own professionalcareer up to entering the White House.[119] She was also first to take up an office in West Wing of White House:[48] She is regarded as most openly empowered presidential wife in American history, save for Eleanor Roosevelt.[120] Some critics called it inappropriate for the First Lady to play central role inmatters of publicpolicy. ... no different from that of other WhiteHouse advisors and voters were well aware she would play active role in her husband's Presidency."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 PM on 03/30/2008
- SecretSquirrel666 See Profile I'm a Fan of SecretSquirrel666

It is so hailarious, no pun intended, that the same people that were swinging from the Clinton's junk a few years ago, now act as if they never liked either of them at all. Simply halarious as they fall for the flavor of the month again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 PM on 03/30/2008
- DoninJoisey See Profile I'm a Fan of DoninJoisey

Excuse me, but Clinton never got 50% of the vote either time (Perot) and Hillary won't either.

I voted for Perot twice, and wish he's won.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 PM on 03/30/2008
- mickeyrat See Profile I'm a Fan of mickeyrat

I really think that at this point, Dems have to start considering a third candidate, someone who can unite, even if imperfectly, Democrats. I think the supporters of both HIllary and Obama will resent bitterly the other one winning, but I think while they may grumble a bit initially about a third candidate, in the long run they will realize it is the best option, and will feel better and far more enthusiastic about the campaign.

Please do the math. Neither candidate can win the general election. Who cares which is the nominee if either is going down to defeat against McCain?

There are, I think, three potential draft candidates who could unite the party. algore, Edwards and, as a safe but boring choice, Joe Biden.

I want to ask Democrats this then. Suspend for a moment your hope and belief that your own candidate can win both nomination or election. If you support Hillary, could you support a ticket with Obama as VP and one of the above three named as President? . And if you support Obama, can you accept a solution which does not give your guy the nomination this time around, but sets him up for one or two terms down the road?

Both are damaged good. Either of them at the top of ticket, because of the damage done and that will be done, spells crashing defeat in November. When will Dems see that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 PM on 03/30/2008
- nohat See Profile I'm a Fan of nohat

Hillar isn't going to concede the nomination to a third candidate any more than she will concede it to Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:01 PM on 03/30/2008
- Tomor See Profile I'm a Fan of Tomor

The mistake Hilary made was forgetting that the media records these events. The mistake America might make is putting her in the White House after she shows us her regard for the truth.

I was in Bosnia around 1994 as part of a group. The group's bus drove along various roads winding up some steep hills. At one point, we heard a series of automatic rifle shots being fired nearby (like 100 feet or so) . It was in celebration of a wedding. But it increased our awareness of what was going on in a war zone. Further evidence of the war zone could be seen by the mutiple bullet holes in the nearby homes in some of the Bosnian vilages.

But I never thought that I was being subjected to sniper fire. And I did not have 50 American solders standing around me.

The best quote I heard about Hillary's boo boo was an airforce officer saying that when Hillary landed at the Bosnian airport, not even a bee was nearby.

Hillary's haunting Hallucinations -- the HHH factor

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 PM on 03/30/2008
- baschenis See Profile I'm a Fan of baschenis

Re 50 American soldiers: There was an armored division of 4000 troops and 40 tanks surrounding the base, along with Navy Seals and Secret Service. There were attack helicopters and F-18s in the air. The security was total. In Clinton's admission of a "misstatement" (a self serving and inaccurate interpretation ) she continued to lie about the surrounding details like the cork-screw landing, the flack jackets, and the moving of the ceremony off the tarmac, in spite of the fact that all this information is now readily available.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 PM on 03/30/2008
- ignorantwillyharper See Profile I'm a Fan of ignorantwillyharper

Anyone with any common sense, knows she is a full born liar since Arkansas, if the truth is known, she taught Bill and Chelsea how to lie. This gal lies and does not pay her bills, she's white trash that jumped on a coattail and has been riding it ever mile of the way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 PM on 03/30/2008
- juangault See Profile I'm a Fan of juangault

She grew up around the big boys at Wal-mart. They liked her, and so do a lot of Wal-Mart shoppers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:23 PM on 03/30/2008
- richardsgirl See Profile I'm a Fan of richardsgirl

If Senator Clinton somehow wins the nomination, she has so damaged her image that she will have lost the respect of most Americans, including most Democrats. I do not think she should drop out of the race, and I think there's still a slim possibility that she could win the popular vote - very slim. But she is still damaged goods. Her negatives are rising among Democrats, Independents, and moderate Republicans, and even if she wins the nomination, she will inevitably be defeated in the general.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 AM on 03/30/2008
- BatedBreath See Profile I'm a Fan of BatedBreath

Does she care? And does she really believe she will have a chance in 2012?