"Pimped Out" Resurfaces On MSNBC

Huffington Post   |   March 26, 2008 11:32 PM


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On "Verdict with Dan Abrams" Wednesday night the infamous phrase "pimped out" returned during a discussion of Chelsea Clinton.

The panel — which featured Huffington Post Media Editor Rachel Sklar, radio hosts Bill Press and Stephanie Miller, and Butler University student Evan Strange — was debating the merits of asking Chelsea to comment on her mother's credibility in light of the Monica Lewinsky scandal, which Strange asked her to do the day before. Miller jumped in with the dreaded two words that caused MSNBC so much grief and earned David Shuster a two week suspension (though he ultimately claimed he was "thrown under the bus to pay for the sins the of father").

A wary Dan Abrams immediately went into polite damage control, dismissing the phrase "pimped out" as "unacceptable," and saying, "this has been an issue here, we don't need another issue."


From MSNBC, 3/27

Previously: Bill Press: Caught in the Middle of David Shuster's Screwup


 
 

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I totally agree, Stephanie Miller is a comedienne. You don't have her on and expect political correctness. Nor do you have her on in discussions of political matters. There is no shortage of pundits out there. CNN uses her too! Miller adds absolutely no value to the conversation.

As for David Schuster, he should of been fired from the beginning. Not suspended from the air. I do not care who you are talking about, Schuster used extremely poor judgement. As a professional news organization those remarks are simply never appropriate. If you want to remain creditable! Furthermore, had the same been said about Schuster kid, he would have decked the person and demand they be fired.

However, as I just commented on another article about MSNBC. That network should come with a warning: "viewers should take Xanax before watching!" MSNBC is out of control, over the top with drama. I have completely stop watching the network. There power only remains if they have an audience.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 PM on 03/28/2008

Stephanie Miller is a comedienne. You don't have her on and expect political correctness. And by the way, when the first person (Schuster) said "pimp out" it was about Chelsea. But when people say it now around Hillary, Chelsea, etc., they're making a cultural reference to that story. It's not the same, and people should lighten up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 AM on 03/28/2008

Agree about comedienne point, except I don't think Steph needed to bring up this phrase. It wasn't funny. I cringed, and I thought the FIRST incident was overblown.

Steph can be funny without being crass and I wish she would remember that because we need her on TV. Leave the crass stuff to that other not-funny comedienne who is always at the roasts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 PM on 03/28/2008

I agree it wasn't funny, but not every joke works. And I don't think they're hiring her to avoid humor. If her attempts to be funny fail more than they succeed, eventually they'll stop inviting her. But if she plays it completely dry and humorless, she'll be gone even sooner.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 PM on 03/28/2008

Yesterday, Keith Olbermann had on a local NYC rock DJ, to do the closing "fluff" segment about "American Idol". She came on, did her irreverent thing, and invoked the phrase "pimp and ho'".

Well, KO, was in shock. He could not have made his discomfort more clear, if he had taken out a billboard in Rockefeller Center; he said there were certain things that MSNBC never wanted to hear again, and that she had just pulled the trigger on The Big One. See you again, dear, on a cold day in Hell.

This is my fear about players from new media becoming cable news "commentators". What made them the "edgy" media types they are, is already ringing corporate alarm bells. They're being told that if they want to be invited back onto this medium which is trying so nobly to "graduate" them into the rarified Bigtime, they will alter their act to MSM proportions... or suffer the consequences.

Yesterday, I heard a sound byte of another one of those feted "it" gals, Ana Marie Cox, basically apologizing for why the press thinks John McCain's so darned groovy. Ohhh dear. The cocktail weenies have done another one in.

I'm worried that too many of these will smell the greasepaint, check their bank accounts, and fall in line. And then... what good will they be? Do we really want to see Rachel Maddow, adjusting her observations to be more spongeworthy? Might as well just book Joe Klein and Laura Ingraham, again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 03/28/2008

This whole thing is stupid. I'm a Clinton supporter, and I stopped listening to Stephanie Miller a couple months ago because of her blatant anti-Hillary, pro-Obama slant, but this is still a non-issue. I certainly objected when Joe Schuster first said it, but this time, it was not said in any way, shape or form as a negative attack on the Clintons. In fact, it was an attempt to humorously reference the previous "scandal" and also make clear that Chelsea is NOT being "pimped out," and is under no obligation to answer questions from the media if she prefers not to, especially questions concerning her father's infidelity in the 90s. How gross and inappropriate for a "reporter" to ask a daughter about her parent's sex life in the first place. Stephanie didn't do anything wrong, and it was Dan Abrams who called more attention to the comment than was necessary. Let it go. I'm surprised that HuffPost, which wants to annoint Obama President without an election, would even publish a story about it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 AM on 03/28/2008

Yes it is stupid. The real story should be

The real danger to America is from within

#1 Hillary
#2 Carville
#3 People who would still vote for a pathalogical liar.

Chelsea's reply to the Bosnia question. " If that is what my mother said, then that's how it was" The Clinton offspring.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 AM on 03/28/2008

why are Obama supporters so hate filled! Just wondering!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 AM on 03/28/2008

What was hateful about my comment?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 03/28/2008


They are responding to the VILE, VENOMOUS, and HATE filled verbiage being
spewed by Bill, Hillary, and their campaign workers.

If you can't take the heat - turn momma's picture to the wall and leave.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 AM on 03/28/2008

Mattie~

I am a former Hillary supporter, who now supports OBAMA.

I find it sad that each side hates the other. I take your comment to heart, and I, for one, will do what I can with those I know and those I do not know to treat all with dignity and respect.

I have a close friend named Hattie and she and I are on opposite sides and we still care about our relationship above our different political beliefs.

I think OBAMA's time is now for our country. I sadly think it is Hillary's time to bow out but I do not say that with hate, but with sadness. I can only imagine how difficult it is for her now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 AM on 03/28/2008

That show annoyed the hell out of me. Here you have Stephanie Miller and Rachel Sklar, the two sexiest brunette talking heads on television on the same show and instead of focusing on THEM, that weenie Dan Abrams whines over the word "pimped". Abrams needs to grow a pair and/or shut his trap.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 AM on 03/28/2008

When that remark came out, I was sickened.
This election was turned into a big joke by the entertaining news media, incluing Abrams.
Abrams show is very biased against Clinton.
My verdick, Keep people like miller out of news commentation.
Also, I gave up Abrams. I thought he was responsible. Now he has his fixed jurors on his show.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 PM on 03/28/2008

Stephanie Miller (AKA "Mama") is a comedian, and was trying to get a little humor out of the episode. She herself admitted on her radio show today that she knew as soon as the words left her mouth that it was an oopsie.
While Steph is an Obama supporter, she was actually defending Chelsea's right to not answer that question. Dan Abrams (who if high up on Steph's "future husbands list") has already forgiven her, fer cryin' out loud.

LEAVE STEPHIE ALONE!!!!!! YOU'RE LUCKY SHE EVEN PERFORMS FOR YOU PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!

Paula from north Hollywood
The Official Tequila Enthusiast of the Stephanie Miller Show

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 PM on 03/27/2008

A lot of the remarks here about this, are just very sad, the ignoramus who first asked the question was operating at one level of ignorance, but all these defenses of his lack of normal human judgment are even more incredible.
This culture we live in is being steadily dumbed down and numbed out by those among us with no sense of the appropriateness of anything! When a simpleton who is in college and doesnt have a normal sensitivity filter on his stupid mouth is given a stage in the media for his idiocy, it's all becoming just too much. And when scores of other idiots leap to his defense, it's just worse.
How did the first amendment rights to free speech become an excuse for sub-human behavior?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 PM on 03/27/2008

Bill Clinton says saddle up let fight. daughter is on the campaign is on the road. to include having her fire about being under fire. At age 28 she is a big girl.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 AM on 03/28/2008

The guy who answered the question is only 20! To him Chelsea Clinton is an adult, and he's not going to be worried about offending her sensitivities. It's got nothing to do with the electorate being "dumbed down". The questioner is almost a child himself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 AM on 03/28/2008

Excellent observations.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 PM on 03/27/2008

Hey now! Eight year olds can stand on a sniper-infested tarmac waiting for the privilege of meeting The Commander in Chief's - Commander in Chief In Waiting, but you must leave poor poor little Chelsea alone. She is the only prepubescent in the world whose parents had affairs- you must be delicate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 03/27/2008

Wow.

That comment is about as far off the mark as McCain is regarding the surge.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:32 PM on 03/27/2008

I find many of the comments here, indicating an opinion that Chelsea, because she's helping her mother's campaign, should be open to answering personal questions relating to her parents marriage rather bizarre to say the least.

Why would anything Chelsea has to say about something that happened so many years ago, and that has literally nothing to do with Hillary's ability to govern, be so important to so many here? And which of you would want anyone ever asking them such a question about their own family or parents...or even legitimize the question with a response?

I can't imagine anyone with a shred of dignity or intelligence responding any differently than Chelsea did.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 PM on 03/27/2008

It is not bizarre at all to wonder if a woman who has been cheated on so many times can still be devastated by yet another betrayal by her husband. This is a woman who is running for PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, an office that hardly needs to be filled by somebody with an enormous potential to be distracted by family problems, especial familiar and gratuitous ones like a husband who has never managed to grow up. People have a right to know...Hillary has already lied at least 3 times to keep Bill's "illness" of perpetual juvenality from becoming a public issue. Time is well past for people to know the truth...will she be distracted or not? And even that isn't the real issue...the real issue is the rest of having to do as we did when BC was president....be constantly waiting for that other shoe to fall. And fall it did, over and over and over. I, for one, have had enough of the Clnton marriage and as Hendrik Hertzberg put it its "metric that seems to attract constant investigations."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 PM on 03/28/2008

Why would anything Chelsea has to say be considered important

She talks and acts as a child and has zero accomplishments to show for the incredible priviledge and opportunity she has had. Name one accomplishment

Is she paying these schools to use their auditoriums as a campaign vehicle for her mother

The Monica lewinsky affair and disbarement of her dad are fair subjects. If she can handle corkscrew landings and sniper fire she can handle this

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:38 PM on 03/27/2008

she handled it. she told the schmo that it wasn't any of his business. next question?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 AM on 03/28/2008

But the schmo that asked is a Hillary supporter. I found that odd.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 AM on 03/28/2008

Why do you think a young woman should be asked personal questions unrelated to the election? Her father's infidelity has been publicly exposed and Sen. Clinton and her daughter were publicly humiliated because of it. Monica Lewinsky has publicly apologized to Sen Clinton and her daughter and she is living in London with a new life. Sen. Clinton showed her strength and dignity throughout. Sen. Clinton decided to remain with her husband as many women do. All of that affair is in the past, Pres. Clinton was not disbarred. He is now a member of the New York State Bar Association. The young man's questions was no more than an attempt to embarrass and humiliate her and more than likely, to look like a big man on campus.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 03/27/2008

Clinton was disbarred from teh Arkansas state bar association and his right to present cases to US Supreme COurt was revoked

http://famguardian.org/Subjects/LawAndGovt/News/ClintonDisbar-011001.htm

Please don't lie like yoru candidate

www.clintonscandals2008.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 03/28/2008

No it was Bill Clinton that apoligized to Monica.
The young man that asked her that question is a Hillary supporter.
Your statements are mute

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 AM on 03/28/2008

Which of these would you consider to be a "zero accomplishment?"

Being a National Merit Scholarship finalist in 1997 or graduating with distinction from Stanford?

Just wondered...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 PM on 03/27/2008

and your point?????????????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 AM on 03/28/2008

I kind of agree with you, but . . .

I think Hillary's lack of movement or anything during the scandal can reflect her ability to deal with issues as a President, but its a weak argument.

And while the question has little relevance, if she's going out there to represent the family, she should be ready to answer dumb questions.

But in the long run, it really is not that important.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 03/27/2008

DEFINITELY, THE APLUMB AND FORTITUDE SHOWN BY HILLARY, IN THE "L AFFAIR" IS A PLUS FOR ANYONE CAPABLE OF LEADING THIS NATION... I THINK THAT THIS NATION NEEDS TO FOLLOW THE TREND OF OTHER NATIONS HAVING WOMEN LEADERS; BUT MOST OF ALL SOMEONE THAT ISN'T GOING TO BE HISTERICAL AND UNWOUND IN A CRISIS. AS TO THE BOSNA "FAUX PAS", IT WAS INDICATED THAT THERE WERE SNIPERS IN THE AREA AND THE US ARMY HAD THEIR OWN SNIPERS READY TO PROTECT HILLARY...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 AM on 03/28/2008

You also must shed a few tears for authenticity...;)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 03/28/2008

You were yelling so loud i had to leave the room to understand what you were trying to say. All i could get out of this is that you are as confused , as hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 AM on 03/28/2008

Uh, she did answer it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 PM on 03/27/2008

Bill and Hillary have been married for 32 years.

How many here can say the same?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:10 PM on 03/27/2008

This is a marriage in name only....one of expediency and political convenience. A REAL marriage is made up of TWO PEOPLE, both of them are trying to protect the marriage and save their spouses from unnecessary humiliations . Both MUST be demonstrating love and respect for the other. As shown by the recently-revealed notes, how many times was Hillary at home in the White House when Bill was dropping his pants for Monica? 6? 7? 8? In her own home! You can call that a marriage, but to me it is a sham.

Shakespeare may have said, "Let me not to the marriage of true minds admit impediments," but if anything ought to be an "impediment" to a genuine "marriage" it is cheating on one's spouse with the zeal and consistency with which BC pursued bimbos.

BTW, we just celebrated our 40th anniversary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 03/28/2008

Like most things in the Clinton world, words have different meaning. "is" was a challenge for Bill, so I am sure "marriage" would need similar clarification in regards to the Clintons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 PM on 03/27/2008

My wife and I just passed the 32 year mark. and still going.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 PM on 03/27/2008

They're politicians who travel and work a lot, probably around each other more than the average couple! They're together for political reasons not love. Chelsey is and was old enough to be an area where there were snipers, but her fathers affairs are too much? Grow up

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 PM on 03/27/2008

Been spying in the Clintons' window, have you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 03/28/2008