Third Day Of Fighting Takes Over Iraq

Third Day Of Fighting Takes Over Iraq

Huffington Post   |   March 27, 2008 at 06:27 AM


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Intense fighting between Iraqi Shiite militiamen and US And Iraqi forces has been raging in Iraq over the past three days. The fighting threatens to end a Mahdi Army cease-fire that is credited for many security gains in Iraq. Below are a couple reports on the violence and discontent throughout the country:

AP: Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki Says He'll Pursue Fight To "The End"

Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki is promising to pursue his fight against Shiite militias in Basra to "the end."

Al-Maliki made his pledge to Basra area tribal leaders Thursday as military operations against the militias continued for a fourth day despite stiff resistance.


AP: Green Zone Hit For Fourth Day This Week:

Shiite militants are hammering the U.S.-protected Green Zone with rockets and mortars for the fourth day this week.

Thick, black smoke is billowing from inside the heavily fortified home to the U.S. Embassy and Iraqi government.


AP: Tens Of Thousands Of Shiites Protest:

Tens of thousands of Shiites took to Baghdad's streets to protest the government crackdown on militias in Basra as heavy fighting between Iraqi security forces and gunmen erupted for a third day in the southern oil port and the capital.

Iraqi officials reported 17 more people killed in overnight clashes in Baghdad's main Shiite district of Sadr City and raised the number of deaths from fighting in the southern city of Hillah to at least 60.

Mounting anger focused on Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, a Shiite who is personally overseeing an operation against Shiite militias dominated by followers of radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr amid a violent power struggle in Basra, Iraq's southern oil hub near the Iranian border.


 
 

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AS WITH ANCIENT ROME.........OUR RESOURCES ARE SPREAD TOO THIN ,,,,,,ANOTHER CONFLICT ON ANOTHER FRONT ..........SAY......... SOUTH AMERICA AND OUR ECONOMY MAY COLLAPSE."If something comes along that is truly serious, truly serious, something like a nuclear weapon going off in an American city, or something like a major pandemic, you are going to see the ineptitude of this government in a way that will take you back to the Declaration of Independence." -Lawrence Wilkerson, a chief of staff for then Secretary of State Colin Powell, on the [b]ush administration, which he said was run by a "cabal." 10/31/05 Newsweek

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:32 AM on 03/28/2008

You guys will love this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaP9eiWuX3s
(its raining McCains)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 PM on 03/27/2008

Strategically, why would al-Sadr break the truce, and why now?

Answer: by observation, he feels the time is better now than before. And implicitly, now better than later. To break the truce for the purpose either of grabbing Basra (and the oil), or toppling Maliki, or both.

Clearly, he prefers to strike now, BEFORE the US withdraws the surge troops. Therefore, he either could give a hoot how many troops are there with the surge (proving that NEVER mattered), OR he's trying to draw us to send even more.

Given his close ties with Iran, if not acting as their agent, the above goes double for them.

I look forward to your comments.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 03/27/2008

We are having a phenomenal increase in security here.....

And by the way, just who volunteered to die in a war crime for Cheney...?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:38 PM on 03/27/2008

History will record that the day US troops set foot in Iraq was the day the the Iranians became the most influential country in Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 PM on 03/27/2008

Aren't those militias that Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki is trying to defeat backed by Iran? He may not succeed, but it seems to me the government of Iraq, such as it is, is trying to leseen Iranian influence.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 03/27/2008

nope, they are Iraqi citizens who are demonstrating in the tens of thousands for the removal from government for Bush owned Maliki. There is an emergency meeting of the parliment tomorrow, which is a good sign and Sadyr representatives will be there as well. Let's hope and pray this moves the issues in a positive direction.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 AM on 03/28/2008

Goody, the pockyclypse is upon us and all is swell.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 03/27/2008

This all reminds me of the old western movies when the wagon train forms a circle (the green zone), which the native americans (al Qaeda, Shiite Militia, Mahdi Army, Iran?) attack. We all know the Native Americans lost their Nations simply by being grossly outnumbered by the "white man"..

Now the "white man" wants to take over Arab Land. This time history will not repeat itself because the local Muslim populations on their own land will never be outnumbered by the "white man". The only sure thing this time is the endless cost to the indebted USA populace.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 PM on 03/27/2008

Read all about the connections between Saddam and terrorism here:

http://www.jfcom.mil/newslink/storyarchive/2008/pa032008.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:10 PM on 03/27/2008

hmmm... they seemed to have left out the part where we supported him and gave him weapons to fight the Iraq/Iran war... keep pushing this non-sense. Even your own gov. agencies have tried three times and had to admit there was ZERO evidence that Saddam had ties to Al Qaida, and thus, ZERO justification in this regard for war in Iraq. That y'all keep pushing this only proves that people with IQ lower than 80 CAN still operate a computer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:44 PM on 03/27/2008

I would strongly recommend a book to read:

"When Presidents Lie"

By, Eric Alterman (From Yalta to the present illegal invasion of a sovereign country)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 AM on 03/28/2008

Here is a fairly good rundown on what we supplied to Saddam. It looks like helicopters starting in 1983 when the Iranians were doing well against him. It doesn't look like we were selling him arms in the run up to the war. There is also a note about under the table sales, but it seems that those took place after the Iranians seemed to be winning, also.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arms_sales_to_Iraq

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 PM on 03/27/2008

"We Will In Fact, be Welcomed As Liberators"
- Dick Cheney

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:33 PM on 03/27/2008

My President says things are just peachy in Iraq. If I can't trust him, who can I?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 PM on 03/27/2008

Probably even Barney his dog does not believe Bush any more.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 PM on 03/29/2008

The surge is working? That is the right's favorite mantra. McCain repeated it yesterday. The media has adopted the slogan and these days all reporting is reduced to slogans. It has become treasonous to say otherwise, as it was treasonous not to support the war. Now we see another explosion of violence due to long simmering tensions, a government that does not represent the people, and lack of services. Can one imagine what living in 110 degree heat with little electricity and fresh water must do to a person? Also, unemployment is still 50% or so. Our army, instead of concentrating on restoring services, makes midnight raids on people's homes looking for insurgents and the biggest insurgent recruiter is the lack of basic services. Besides the violence, a humanitarian disaster looms.

General Petraeus is due to testify again to congress soon. Will he honestly break down the impossibility of the situation in Iraq and with it the impossibility of imposing democracy through force, or will he reflexively ask for another six months? Likely, he will ask for the latter to accomplish Bush's bidding and throw himself on the Bush altar, as so many others have ruinously done. The funeral pyre grows larger and larger.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 PM on 03/27/2008

not to mention the outbreak of Plasmodium falciparum malaria and cholera. This is a human tragedy beyond words. The surge is working, not, look at Basra, is actually an expression of what you describe, the inability of the Iraqi people to take it anymore, especially from Maliki, who they are seeking to be removed from office through public demonstrations quashed by Maliki and Bush's Iraqi Army.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 AM on 03/28/2008

Yes, good point. We are now seen as the oppressors, reinforcing a very unpopular government. Al Maliki is very predisposed to Iran rather than America, which in the long run is probably his most sensible strategy..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:33 AM on 03/28/2008

As an addition to the above good comments:

Wouldn't it have been better to pay market price for the oil instead of trying to steal it?

Instead of blaming all out troubles on "terrorists", "illegal immigrants" and (Venezuela).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 AM on 03/28/2008

Haven't you all figured out the Lee Atwater/Karl Rove trick yet? If the fighting in Iraq gets worse, then you say "See, things are not safe yet; our mission is not over; we have to stay!"

If things get better there, then you say "See, the surge is working; we can't leave now that we're finally seeing success; we can't let things plunge back into chaos; we have to stay!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:40 PM on 03/27/2008

Chimpy said yesterday that this is a positive event. No need to worry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 PM on 03/27/2008

It is interesting that the Shia party's leader is trying to shut down Shiite militias that were thought to be supported by Iran.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 PM on 03/27/2008

Impeachment - It will save countless lives of young Americans.
It is not too late to do the right thing. Not one more soldier's death for Bush's employment.
Let Bush flip burgers in Crawford, let Cheney go hunting with the Saudi royals.
Let American soldiers return home to the warm embrace their families and friends.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:23 PM on 03/27/2008

BAGHDAD - The State Department on Thursday told all workers at the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad not to leave reinforced structures following the deaths of two Americans in attacks on the Green Zone, a heavily fortified area besieged by militants this week.

The Baghdad military command imposed a curfew on the capital from 11 p.m. Thursday to 5 a.m. Sunday in bid to stem the violence.

One American was killed Thursday by incoming insurgent fire on the Green Zone. U.S. Embassy spokeswoman Mirembe Nantongo identified the person as a government employee but said she could give no further details until relatives were notified.

I can see helicopters on the roof with people scrambling to get a ride. It's deja vu all over again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 03/27/2008

Anybody remember the "Tet Offensive?"

When the testimonies by our generals before congress declared (paraphrasing) the war almost over the Tet Offensive, 1968, shocked the US...
Now we have a seemingly "coordinated" assault on the Green Zone and the reviving resistance in the South in Basra?
What will be next?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 AM on 03/28/2008

exactly, the State Department is going to cut and run

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 AM on 03/28/2008

Spend the money on re-establishing the American democracy and economy after the Bush years

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 03/27/2008

Yes this reminds me of a one liner, famous newspaper headlines ( . . .absurdum) "War Reduces Chances for Peace"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:14 PM on 03/27/2008

The headline says this is the third day of fighting in Iraq? I think you mean five years and three days.

Here's a good clue to predicting the future: if the U.S. embassy inside a country is described as being located "within the compound," then it's a good bet that embassy will not be occupied by people from the U.S. for very long. If we really had good relations with the country, we wouldn't need our ambassadors to hide in bunkers waiting to be evacuated.

One last thing: does anyone know whether the buildings inside the "Green Zone" have large flat roofs for the helicopters to land on when they begun the last-minute evacuations? Just checking. I know the Bush regime doesn't spend too much time studying history, so someone might want to point out the fact that most occupying forces tend to be run out in a rout, without advance warning.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 03/27/2008

excellent as mentioned above, let's all watch while the State Department cuts and runs

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 AM on 03/28/2008

Excellent post!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 03/27/2008

This is of course in accord with Bush's plan. Al Sadr will prove that the Iraqi government is not up to governing, and because of their closer ties to Iran, will enable Bush to blame any failure on Iran and start a war there through some either false flag operation or mis-queue due to too damn many US Navy ships in the straights at one time. I think that two carriers are headed that way now. Cheney went fishing there on Oman's boat to scout it out, before the deed gets done, I would guess. What am I paranoid? Yes. But that doesn't mean it's not a good guess. What bugs me is that I don't see any upside for America in this action. It would cut into world oil supply considerably, and limit the output of Saudi Arabia, slightly at least if they pumped exports through their un-crimped ports until the straight was again safe. It would potentially take Iran's oil off the market. If the Saudi's were looking for a way to increase their profit, at the expense of an enemy, this might be it. And Exxon does not have to find or pump more oil to increase profits.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 03/27/2008

If Bush wants to blame someone, he should blame himself and his coterie of ideologues.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:56 PM on 03/27/2008

Impossible. Cheney, Bush and McCann have all told as how widly successful the surge has been- and Republicans don't lie.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 03/27/2008

When the Iraqi's pass an sign the Iraq Oil Law, enslaving them to the US oil companies, we'll leave except for our permanent Military Bases to guard our prize...Iraq's oil at Wal-Mart prices. You see, it's all about oil. It's always been about oil.

Iraq, it wasn"t about WMD, and it wasn"t about freedom. It was about oil.

"Enduring U.S. Bases in Iraq¦Monopolizing the Middle East Prize"
http://www.commondreams.org/views07/0319-26.htm
Check out the number and names of US Military bases in Iraq, here:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/iraq.htm

It wasn"t about the Taliban and Osama bin Laden. It was about oil.

"It"s All About Oil!"
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/oil.html
Trans-Afghanistan Pipeline
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Afghanistan_Pipeline

Kosovo, it wasn"t about freedom¦it was about oil.

"Camp Bondsteel and America"s plans to control Caspian oil"
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2002/apr2002/oil-a29.shtml
Camp Bondsteel¦Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Bondsteel

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 03/27/2008

exactly, this is what Cheney and Bush and Maliki did in February 2008 by sleight of hand stole from the Iraqi people their resources during a parlimentary recess ... there is so much more to this story. We the American people have the opportunity to get this story about Iraq right this time, everyone should be going to foreign press for news of what is happening. there are many sources to get you there, see my other posts on this issue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 AM on 03/28/2008

I wonder if George W. Bush will fly the last chopper out of Baghdad? And will Dick Cheney be right behind him doing door gunner duty? And will General Petraeus be still climbing that rope ladder as Bush lifts away from the Saigo.... I mean Baghdad compound?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 03/27/2008

Are dry drunks allowed to fly anything?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:30 PM on 03/27/2008

This war has been hanging on by a thread. The thread has been Muqtada al-Sadr and it looks like it is unraveling. Why we have spent 6 years trying to prop up a government that can't pass the giggle test when it comes to corruption is beyond me and now that things are going from bad to worse I am guessing there will be more troops injected, more American deaths, and Bush and company will be able to, along with their comrade, McSame, come up with another solution that will keep this going, and going, and going, and going, That is unless congress and the people do something about this corrupt administration.
Cheney's "so" will take on a real surprise meaning if all hell breaks out in Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 PM on 03/27/2008