Hillary And Bill: We Aren't Going Anywhere

  |   March 28, 2008 06:02 PM


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In an article on the obstacles Hillary Clinton faces in regards to winning the nomination, The New York Times notes that despite the increasing pressure on her to step aside, Clinton is still refusing to give an inch:

Compounding the challenge, one of Mr. Obama's most prominent supporters, Senator Patrick J. Leahy of Vermont, said Mrs. Clinton should quit the race because she hurt Mr. Obama "more than anything John McCain has said."

The Clinton campaign showed resolve in the face of the developments, rallying supporters and donors and enlisting prominent surrogates to fight back. Mrs. Clinton told aides that she would not be "bullied out" of the race.

In a conversation with two Democratic allies, she compared the situation to the "big boys" trying to bully a woman, according to interviews with them.

On the campaign trail, Mrs. Clinton said she was in the contest to stay.


On Friday both Clintons struck defiant notes on the trail in response to recent suggestions from leading Democrats that Hillary should end her campaign.

From MSNBC:

Just in case you were wondering what Hillary Clinton's No. 1 fan thinks of recent calls for her to drop out of the race for the Democratic nomination, Bill Clinton has three words for you: "Bunch of Bull."

"All these people tell you, 'Aw, we oughta shut this thing down now; the Democrats are so divided,'" Clinton said at a campaign event here. "That's a bunch of bull."



From the New York Times Caucus blog:

To answer questions that have been swirling around her candidacy all day, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton arrived here in northwest Indiana - just a few miles from her Democratic rival's home on Chicago's South Side - to unequivocally say she has no intention of leaving the presidential race.

"There are millions of reasons to continue this race: people in Pennsylvania and Indiana and North Carolina and all of the contests yet to come," Mrs. Clinton said. "This is a very close race and clearly I believe strongly that everyone should have their voices heard and their votes counted and that includes Michigan and Florida."

Then, she added: "There is a lot still to be done and I'm looking forward to campaigning hard over the next several months."



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Hillary and Bill: "We Aren't Going Anywhere Until We Get Our 5 Million Bucks Back"

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 PM on 04/01/2008

THE CLINTON INSURGENCY IS IN FULL SWING

CALLS FOR HER WITHDRAWAL ONLY FEED IT!


Fueling the current Clinton Insurgency against Obama AND the entire DEM party is the Clintons" belief THEY were robbed of this nomination.

This belief provides them internal psychic comfort and external rationalization for ANY and EVERY behavior we have seen and will continue to see RIGHT THROUGH 2012.

Only the naive think this ends at the Convention. After losing there, the Clinton Insurgency goes underground to further expand their support of McCain's candidacy. If unsuccessful, it moves to the Senate where Hillary as Lieberman REDUX, will practically caucus with McCain to deny President Obama any success.

Between Super Tuesdays Obama won 11 straight states; and the Campaign to Elect Hillary morphed into the Campaign to Defeat Obama via this new political Insurgency we are witnessing daily.
Indeed, Hillary's campaign is an undeclared death-struggle to deny Obama not the nomination (she knows that's already lost), but the Presidency and any media coverage that would aid him.

The goal is no longer winning. Victory is in prolonging the battle and denying the favorite his expected result, while spoiling it so that ultimate victory is worth less each day the Insurgency continues. This new Clinton campaign can only be by design of our Chief Democratic Architect, former President Bill Clinton, himself.

We all know this in our hearts. The only question facing loyal DEMS, to paraphrase Sean Connery from "The Untouchables": What are WE prepared to do?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 AM on 04/01/2008

Sadly, I think you're spot on. Sad sad sad.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 AM on 04/01/2008

BUMBLE BEEEEEEE

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 AM on 04/01/2008

"She's going to withdraw in two weeks" being the same as saying "She's withdrawing immediately!", all that Clinton's statement really means is "she's not withdrawing today".

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 PM on 03/31/2008

To quote Arnie Grape,"we're not goin' anywhere Gilbert"

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 03/31/2008

They are going one of two places: 1)oblivion, or 2)forming the McCain Democrat wing of the Republican party.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 03/31/2008

"Hillary And Bill: We Aren't Going Anywhere" could that mean that are going nowhere?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 03/31/2008

It's horrible that a party can be so self-destructive. I am a big Obama fan, and I am curious as to who everyone thinks REALLY is the most harmful politician to his reputation and nomination possibility.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 PM on 03/31/2008

They have to do something to pay back all those party bills they have run up. They will stay in as long as is legal to keep raising the cash. As long as the sheep keep grazing Billary will find a way to pull the wool over their eyes. Do you know what a cash cow this windfall could be for them. The Clintons are business people first and foremost. They never met a profit they didn't like.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 PM on 03/31/2008

I suppose she is witihin her rights, but she and Bill have clearly revealed themselves as desperate establishment candidates, who want to protect the oligarchy - best I can tell anyway. They had the chance to bring about a tech and knowledge revolution with Laurence Rockefeller but the Clintons blew it.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 AM on 03/31/2008

Hillary is well within her rights to stay in the race as long as she can. Here"s my problem with her continuing. She won"t be able to control her surrogates from tearing the party apart. You can see that her plan is stay above it all and let her surrogates do the dirty work. If she with Obama"s help can elevate the debate back to the real issues it will be great for the rest of the states. Imagine, all the states get to vote. Oh, and on that issue, its simple. Split the Michigan vote between them and let the Florida vote stand as is. Now the crucial element to this is to not allow the Michigan and Florida Super Delegates to have a vote. This way the peoples vote count and no one gets a clear advantage. Or let the vote in both states count but no super delegates. If Clinton is really concerned about the peoples vote, then this is a no brainner. Oh and lets not forget about Mr. Obama. He needs to show real leadership and make a public statement on this and not leave it up to the DNC. He has to step up if he truly is presidential material.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 PM on 03/30/2008

I can hardly wait to see what new disgrace the Clinton's will bring to the WH. The real problem with Hillary is Bill. And she has made it plain that he is part of the act. Bill is going to be her VP. Only person that can handle her.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 03/30/2008

Good headline. I was unaware that they were unaware that they weren't going anywhere.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 AM on 03/30/2008

Apparently the Clintons can't handle the truth. And they can just forget the Chelsea fasttrack too. Another Clinton at any time will be like another Bush!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 AM on 03/30/2008

Why should they go anywhere? I know there will be harsh comments but oh well. First, the race is very close. And if Florida and Michigan could be re-voted, chances are it would be even more close. But for supporters of Sen. Obama, apparently that doesn't count. No matter that democratically-speaking it would be the most true and representative measure of who all us Dems want as our party's candidate; that all us Dems should be counted. And other large states are yet to vote, some of which favor Sen. Clinton. So because earlier states so far have Sen. Obama ahead, that means states that vote later don't count; let's just call it a day and leave? It seems like it's a big rush, ask questions later.

I do agree some of the attacks on each other aren't good and hopefully they will discuss the issues, experience and personal qualities which each believes would make them a good leader and president

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 PM on 03/29/2008

You have some misconceptions. First, the race isn't very close. To pass Senator Obama by only 3 delegates, Senator Clinton would need to win all of the remaining contests by 64%. Remember when Senator Obama won a victory that large in that big State Virginia? Senator Clinton has only won one victory that large and it was Arkansas. But, there isn't any problem with the race continuing so long as Senator Clinton's strategy isn't to go negative (often falsely) against Senator Obama in the hope that she can throw something at him that will get the 72% of the superdelegates she would need to take the Democratic nomination.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 PM on 03/30/2008

good for Hilary hope you don't quit, keeping my fingers crossed for you

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 PM on 03/29/2008

Senator Clinton has been harmful for progressive women.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 PM on 03/29/2008




BilliBob will be speaking at the local high school next week...................I`ll be holding a very simple sign..........................

"GO HOME"

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 03/29/2008

After 44 primaries of various kinds, Obama has won 30 by an average margin of 53% - 47% (1408 - 1251). Think of it! After more than 80% of the primary contests, each contest equates to a 53% - 47% Obama win. That's commanding.

Even if we ignore all of Hillary's bad behavior (which I can't actually do), these results alone should be enough. The people have spoken. If we could guarantee no more kneecapping, I would be content to let things continue, just for the record. But it's naive to expect Hillary to play it clean the rest of the way, and since she won't, I say again, Hillary Sit Down!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 PM on 03/29/2008

Where are your tax returns, Sen. Clinton? Got vetted?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 PM on 03/29/2008

Taxes returns aren't due until April 15.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 PM on 03/29/2008

What about the returns from 2000-2006. Surely they have aren't been prepared and filed?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 PM on 03/30/2008

Here's the most important thing you need to know about this race: it's neck-and-neck.

Only 130 delegates separate Hillary from Senator Obama -- and that's not counting Florida and Michigan. The difference in popular vote is less than 1 percent, and millions of voters have yet to make their voices heard. This election should be about their choice.

But now we're hearing people -- elected officials, party members, and Obama campaign surrogates -- call for Hillary to pull out.

This is Obama's same old "Bare Knuckle Politics" showing through. Have a look at this article to read more about how Obama used "regular old politics" to win in Illionois:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-0704030881apr04,0,6468332.story

Don't let Obama's overzealous supporters get the best of America's voters! Stand strong, support Hillary.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 03/29/2008

I will have great moral difficulty supporting any candidate that voted AGAINST a cluster bomb BAN like Hillary did. Are all of you Hillary supporters cluster bomb fans also? Well take note, you are witnessing clusters last stand. But you people that would vote for McCain instead of Obama or Hillary need to just stay at home and have your little tantrums there. Anyone who would vote for continuing the worst mis-leadership in U.S. history is going to be just as responsible as those who voted Bush into office in the first place. Responsible for the further ethical and moral demise of America and the systematic dismantling of the Constitution. Thanks for the bankruptcy too. That's right, from your voting ignorance.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 AM on 04/01/2008

The race is not neck and neck. You need to do some basic math and you will see for yourself. I have already done the math (feel free to check it). For Senator Clinton to pass Senator Obama and only by 3 delegates, she would need to win all of the remaining contests by 64%. Even if you throw Michigan and Florida in there as is, she doesn't pick up enough delegates to make much of a difference -- she would need to win all of the remaining contests by 62%. Now, so far, Senator Clinton has won one state by 64% or more and that was Arkansas.

Now, if you want 72% of the superdelegates to pick Senator Clinton over Senator Obama (which is what she would need to take the nomination), these people could do this tomorrow. Voting will not change this.

I am a zealous supporter of my own ability to change Washington. What is your excuse?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 PM on 03/30/2008

Obama & his followers just don't "get it."

Begging & pleading for your opponent to quit is not a sign of strength.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:58 PM on 03/29/2008

she can stay as long as she wants, OH LOOK she`s starting to grow mold!!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 PM on 03/31/2008

Help me out here, I'm new to this politics thing. As I understand the argument, we need to resolve the Michigan/Florida issue or else those voters will be disenfranchised. At the same time we all need to recognize that superdelegates are free to overrule the popular will of the people if they so choose. I'm just an amatuer, but aren't those two arguments inconsistent?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 AM on 03/30/2008

Pay attention. Obama told her to stay in as long as she wants.

(It's not always a good idea to use the Clinton campaign talking points as your sole source of information.)

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 AM on 03/30/2008

Or, JohnKemp, perhaps you've simply "misspoken"?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 AM on 03/30/2008

Sorta like al Maliki pleading for the militias to turn over their guns. That ain't gonna happen, either.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 PM on 03/29/2008

too bad contrary to your post he is on record saying the opposite.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 PM on 03/29/2008

"We're not going anywhere.":

I agree. They're not going anywhere in the primary, another reason for Hillary to drop out now.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 PM on 03/29/2008

Wow, i think it's bad for her campaign to keep them together as a couple and say, "we aren't going anywhere." It totally undermines her credibility to be linked so strongly to her man. Hillary does better when Bill is muzzled and sitting in a corner. Maybe this nomination will be resolved sooner than we think ...

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:28 PM on 03/29/2008

They can't leave...they've been pinned down by sniper fire.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 PM on 03/29/2008
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