New York Times Responds To Reverend Jeremiah Wright's Year-Old Letter About Paper's "Misrepresentations"

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"I see that you have posted Rev. Wright's letter of a year ago to Jodi Kantor of The New York Times.

At The Times, we generally choose to let our work speak for itself. But in this case, I'd like to add some facts to ensure that Mr. Wright's complaints are placed in their proper context and that the dissemination of his letter now does not unfairly impugn Ms. Kantor's work or undermine public confidence in our standards and practices.

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This is more evidence of how the NY Times is a propaganda voice for the Bush Administration and for their Neo-Con lite candidate Hillary.

Great story in the New Yorker about (of all things) why/how newspapers are going out of pirint and Arianna is featured as a counter voice to print media....very interesting .The writer however just grazes the truth as to why so many of us have abandonned the print media for alternative news sources.

Many of the reasons are highlighted in this thread and by the NY Times business as usual type of reporting. Frankly, Rev. Wright summarizes the NYT misdeeds and this is why commercial media has become irrelevant. This paper along with the Washington Post and others have for several administrations given us a faulty and biased view of our world , our govt and our affairs. They deserve to be put out of business.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/03/31/080331fa_fact_alterman

God bless the internet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 AM on 04/01/2008

Some if not many of the comments are provocative/stimulating and interesting/ thought provoking. Others merely misconstrue the meaning of words. Many people can't discern the difference between racism, prejudice and a stereotype. If someone say something about whites: they conclude that they are racist. If someone says something about jews or Israel: they are anti-Semites.

Heck, all the time, just on television, all these pundits/critics/analyst are telling us what black folks are like, and they aren't even black, yet they know, somehow! Crazy!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 PM on 03/31/2008

And these same pundits/critics/analysts have no problem at all in stereotyping white working-class people, the elderly, college students, etc, telling us all how every comment on every issue will affect them and how they are likely to vote because of it. Why doesn't anyone call out the commentators for saying that white people are offended by Reverend Wright's remarks (I'm white and not at all offended), or that older women will vote for Hillary? (I'm an older woman and I support Obama.) Stereotyping is okay if it's done in the newsroom, but not okay if it's done in a church?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 PM on 03/31/2008

And herein lies the problem with political correctness. So glad you guys finally figured it out. (10 years too late)

Once you start censoring speech, even hate speech, its next to impossible to draw the line where political correctness stops and descriptive analysis starts.

The purpose of political correctness was to stop using language to incite hate...as if somehow that would stop the hate. It doesn't.

If we're going to have an open and honest discussion about race, religion, nationality, and gender, then we have to address the stereotypes head on. Censoring the offenders does nothing to solve the problem.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 03/31/2008

Good. Wring every last pathetic drop of juice from the story. Pretty soon, it will be a dried up husk, throw aside and turning to dust. By election time, when hillary is crying her bitter tears over being a LOSER, and senile McBomb is talking another 100 years of war, there will be nothing left to reveal about Obama, and for once, this nation will elect a man of substance, integrity and honor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 PM on 03/31/2008

The more I learn about thhis Reeverend Wright, the more I like him. So waht if he said a few things that are not quite accurate. We all do that, especially pastors. For God's sake, isn't just saying that Dod exists is an unsubstantiated claim? And all pastors do that.

Lighten up folks. Generally speaking, what Wright says is the truth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:50 PM on 03/31/2008

Well here is whats wrong with it, everyone says you got to put it in context, well they wouldnt let Trent Lott put his words in context, they wouldnt let Dog the Bounty Hunter put his words in context, noway, well thats whats wrong with it, its ok for blacks to screw whites but no white is allowed to say a word no way, thats whats a wrong with it

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 PM on 03/31/2008

So you believe the CIA created AIDS to unleash upon Africa?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 PM on 03/31/2008

I wouldn't rule it out. There target, however, might have been someone else. Remember Edgewood?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 AM on 04/01/2008

Exactly -- unintended consequences.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 03/31/2008

PATHETIC and symbolic of MSM ineptitude, kowtowing and bias.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 PM on 03/31/2008

Looks like Rev.Wright stepped in a big pile of his own making...better he confine himself to help stopping AIDS among African Americans rather than coming up with lunatic reasons why they started getting it...from the Times response to loudmouth Rev. Wrong:

Putting aside the question of why a letter that is more than a year old is suddenly getting new circulation, it is worth noting that at no time has Mr. Wright challenged the accuracy of either story written by Ms. Kantor " both of which, given the events of the last several weeks, seem remarkably prescient about the potential political peril in the Obama-Wright relationship.

The key is Wrong has no leg to stand on, as do any of the countless apologists for him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:22 PM on 03/31/2008

Did white doctors intentionally infect blacks with syphillis?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 03/31/2008

You are talking about the so-called Tuskegee Experiment that occurred when FDR (LIBERAL democrat) was president. There were NO injections. But what happened, which is about as bad, is that Blacks who had syphillis were purposely NOT treated by the doctors on hand because they wanted to see the effects and results of the disease.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 PM on 03/31/2008

Why would you

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 PM on 03/31/2008

Why even bother to write to the New York Times, the voice of Bill-the-smiling-murderer-Kristol? This is exactly what NYT wants, i.e. some action to keep the anti-Obama news alive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:33 PM on 03/31/2008

Okay were exactly is the story here? Just another chance to invoke Wright's name keep the negativity stirring. The media has gone beyond shameless trying to stir up crap over this man. The media has done no coverage on the other thousands of other speeches by this man when he talks about unity, kindness and forgiveness -- nor have they covered the community work and services offered to the poor by this church. All about the ratings trash sells news does not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 PM on 03/31/2008

AMEN TO THAT!

OBAMA '08!
HOPE & CHANGE!

Stay safe, healthy and happy,
Love, Loretta

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 03/31/2008

So the hit pieces are truly hit pieces. Even if delivered by surrogate media.

It almost sounds like The Times actually wants to negatively impact Obama's candicacy by the end of that last sentence...

"the potential political peril in the Obama-Wright relationship."

The response sounds like proof enough to me that it's just what the paper wants after all...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 PM on 03/31/2008

Exactly right!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 PM on 03/31/2008

If the Times were truly interested in the religious angle of presidential candidates, they would send Jodi to interview the hate-filled, Catholic-bashing evangelical kingpin, Rev. Hagee who McCain embraced just a few month ago when Hagee publicly endorsed McCain. Is there a YouTube loop of Hagee spilling his vile hate-speech about Muslims as well as Catholics?
Also, what about a story about McCain's switch from life-long Episcopal to Baptist a few years ago--when politics crosses McCain's religious road, is it not news?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 03/31/2008

None of the above was a the personal spirtual advisor and pastor to a presidential nominee the way that the racist wright was.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:25 PM on 03/31/2008

How do you know Rev. Wright is racist -- give me the exact/specific comment that makes you think he is a racist?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 PM on 03/31/2008

They can't, because there is nothing that Wright has said that is racist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 PM on 03/31/2008

More BS and smokescreen from the NYT, as expected. They don't address Wright's complaints, but concentrate on the timing of their release in the media, as if it mattered.

What does matter is the reason the NYT itself didn't publish his letter a year ago.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 03/31/2008

In High School I took a class in propaganda. We studied Pravda and the NY Times. Quantity of propaganda was about even. They are very manipulative, especially with photos.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:58 PM on 03/31/2008

NYT is worried that their status is hitting Tabloid Level!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Iraq WAR Propaganda that was funnel through their newspaper
The Outing of a CIA Agent
The Distortion and Misrepresentation of Senator Obama
The Distortion and Misrepresentation of Senator McCain
Your Bias Blog says it all

It seems The Clintons and the NYT have a lot in common

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:17 PM on 03/31/2008

Why is it that anyone who doesn't act submissive to authority is automatically a danger, according to US politicians? Rev. Wright was NOT calling for condemnation of the US. He was giving a sermon on how America will pay dearly if the government keeps attacking, or sponsoring the attack, of innocent men, women and children.

Economic sanctions are attempts to starve a populace into a desperate overthrow of their government. Nice, huh?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 03/31/2008

" Rev. Wright was NOT calling for condemnation of the US."

So, what do you call "G.. D... Amereica (repeat, repeat, repeat) if not co0ndemation?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:17 PM on 03/31/2008

so what you are trying to say...is that while the native americans were being marched to death on the trail of tears...they were supposed to be singing..god bless america.while black school children were being bitten by police dogs and their skin was being peeled off by bull connors fire hoses they too should have been singing god bless america,and it would follow by your sick racist reasoning...that while the jews were being gassed and burned in ovens...they should have marched into the gas chambers singing god bless germany....and when the prisoners were on the bataan death march...they should have been singing...god bless japan. to require african americans who have been devoured by the black holecaust....then ground to bits by jimcrow and who now are suffering the through ausrottung of unrelenting institutional racism...to sing god bless america...is a crime against the whole of humanity.it is like being ladled out of the smoking hot grease...and dropped into the boiling water. the meat is falling off our bones.only the depraved wicked human animal would have the chutzpu...to require its victims to sing hyms of praise while they are being flayed alive.emmanuel swedenborg wrote that when the wicked human spirit is released from its mortal body...free from the restraints if harm..arrest...revenge ...judgement or criticism...that there are no words to describe its horrible unrelenting wickedness.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:42 PM on 03/31/2008

CelticMajic

Have you even seen the sermon in full context? or Can I assume that all you are going to do is focus on the words GD america. Well let me tell you something this country is not perfect. There are times when I say GD america. This country sucks etc etc. Does that make me unpatriotic - no it does not. It means that I can objectively criticize my country. You have to take the good with the bad. Sometimes I say GB America (sometimes this country does good) and sometimes I don't. If you are going to go through life with blinders on wearing rose covered glasses and cover your ears ( la la la la la la) when anytime something is bad then I feel sorry for you. Does Wright constantly go around saying GD america or tell folks in the church to burn the flag or go kill whitey I doubt he does. Perhaps he could have said something else besides GD america to get the point of his sermon across but I am not going to lynch him instantly for that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 03/31/2008

"Not God Bless America. God Damn America! That"s in the Bible. For killing innocent people. God Damn America for treating us citizens as less than human. God Damn America as long as she tries to act like she is God and she is Supreme."

Read it! It's a condemnation of the sins of killing innocent people, treating some citizens as less than human, and acting like God--all acts, according to Wright, which America has committed.

I dunno what church you go to, but condemning sin is what preachers are expected to do in sermons. Nations can sin as much as individuals, and it does as little good to confess another nations sins as it does an individual to confess another person's sin. Every nation has to confess its own. No one ever got saved by confessing his neighbour's sin.

So, the subject of America's sins is an entirely fit topic for an american church worshipping in America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:22 PM on 03/31/2008

Betcha it sells like hotcakes come November. I'll be sure to spread the word.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 PM on 03/31/2008

Exactly right!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:06 PM on 03/31/2008

Nicely said, even for this atheist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:44 PM on 03/31/2008

End America's GodDamn Iraq War Crime!

That's what.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 03/31/2008

thanks for not answering the question

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 PM on 03/31/2008

So many uninformed comments. Know what you are talking about:

Wrights speech is good.

http://faultlineusa.blogspot.com/2008/03/jeremiah-wrights-911-sermon-in-context.html

Obama's speech is great:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/18/obama-race-speech-read-t_n_92077.html

Please keep your opinion to yourself if you have not listened to the both speeches.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 03/31/2008

Obama/Wright '08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 03/31/2008

I listened to both, and like most Garlic Nosed, typical whiteys, I'll discuss it, then vote accordingly. Thanks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 03/31/2008

Redrover666: you've already made it clear that you don't know the difference between racism, prejudice and a stereotype. To you, it's all racism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 PM on 03/31/2008

OK... I'm good with that. Right on!