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Feingold Calls Out Intel Chief For Saying Dems Want To Imprison Bush

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Sam Stein is a Political Reporter at the Huffington Post, based in Washington, D.C. Previously he has worked for Newsweek magazine, the New York Daily News and the investigative journalism group Center for Public Integrity. He has a masters from the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism and is a graduate of Dartmouth College. Sam can be reached at stein@huffingtonpost.com.

Senator Russ Feingold is calling the Director of National Intelligence out for telling what seemingly amounts to a massive exaggeration if not downright fabrication of the recent FISA debate in Congress.

In a speech at Furman University in Greenville, South Carolina this past week, Vice Admiral Mike McConnell told a crowd that, during the debate over the FISA Amendments Act of 2008, members of Senate called for the outright abolition of the Intelligence Community and even the jailing of President Bush.

"We had a bill go into the Senate. It was debated vigorously," said McConnell. "There were some who said we shouldn't have an Intelligence Community. Some have that point of view. Some say the President of the United States violated the process, spied on Americans, should be impeached and should go to jail. I mean, this is democracy, you can say anything you want to say. That was the argument made. The vote was 68 to 29."

And yet, as Feingold notes, and as a review of the press coverage details, neither of the events McConnell refers to actually happened. The debate over FISA was spirited as Feingold and a minority of senators maneuvered to remove a provision granting telecommunications companies immunity for helping the government with warrentless wiretapping.

But as Feingold wrote in a letter to McConnell: "I am not aware of any Senator saying or suggesting that 'we shouldn't have an Intelligence Community' or that President Bush 'should be impeached and should go to jail.'"

In addition to penning the note to McConnell, Feingold has asked the Intelligence Director to produce actual evidence "of all statements made by Senators during the debate that you believe support [your] assertions."

A spokesman for Feingold said there was no timeline for when they expected a response.

Here is the complete text of Feingold's letter:

The Honorable J.M. McConnell Director of National Intelligence Washington, D.C. 20511


Dear Director McConnell:

I have received a copy of your March 28, 2008, speech at Furman University. In it, you described Senate action on the FISA Amendments Act of 2008, stating:

"We had a bill go into the Senate. It was debated vigorously. There were some who said we shouldn't have an Intelligence Community. Some have that point of view. Some say the President of the United States violated the process, spied on Americans, should be impeached and should go to jail. I mean, this is democracy, you can say anything you want to say. That was the argument made. The vote was 68 to 29."

As you correctly noted, the bill was the subject of vigorous debate. Many members of the Senate expressed serious concerns about the lack of checks and balances included in the legislation and the potential impact of the new authorities on the privacy and civil liberties of Americans. Many Senators were also concerned that retroactive immunity for companies alleged to have cooperated with the President's warrantless wiretapping program would undermine the rule of law.

However, I am not aware of any Senator saying or suggesting that "we shouldn't have an Intelligence Community" or that President Bush "should be impeached and should go to jail." I would therefore appreciate your providing a list of all statements made by Senators during the debate that you believe support these assertions. If there are no such examples, you should issue an immediate correction and an apology.

While all sides of this debate deserve to be heard, to falsely attribute statements to United States Senators serves only to mislead the American people. It also undermines your credibility and that of the position of Director of National Intelligence.

Sincerely,

Russell D. Feingold
U.S. Senator



 
 

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I think that on January 20, 2009, there should be a massive turnout in Washington DC to celebrate the exit of this war criminal. Have a huge party. Or in the alternative, parties all over the country celebrating the end of tyranny.

Is anyone up for arranging the trip. Any travel agents out there who have any suggestion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 PM on 04/02/2008

I think I remember him saying that he didn't think the country would vote for a Jewish man for President. Maybe President Obama will help change these ridiculous voodoos in Goddam nAmerica.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 PM on 04/02/2008

The point is moot. If McCain wins, Bush will pardon everyone except himself (because he can't pardon himself), and President McCain will pardon Bush. If Obama or Clinton wins, Bush will pardon everyone two days before the inauguration, then resign. President Cheney pardons Bush, and they all freakin' walk. Game, Set, Match.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 AM on 04/02/2008

The failure of Congress to impeach and remove Bush and Cheney for already proven high crimes and misdemeanors demonstrates Democratic collaboration with those high crimes and misdemeanors, along with the confirmation of torturer Mukasey by a Democratic-run Senate, bi-partisan passage of Bush's war budgets, bi-partisan passage of the Trample on the Constitution Acts 1,2 and 3 (Patriot Act, Military Commissions Act and Protect America Act) and the passage of the FISA Reform Bill with retroactive immunity for telecom company crimes already committed by the Senate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 AM on 04/02/2008

If this was a APRIL FOOL, it wasn't at all funny. You either deleted all of the people that got it, or everybody is stupid or it really happened (which is what I've been hoping all along).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 AM on 04/02/2008

Hey!! A Democrat with balls! I love it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:20 AM on 04/02/2008

Intelligence and a republican in the same sentence is a real oxymoron

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:45 AM on 04/02/2008

News for the Intel chief. A good many Republicans think Bush should be jailed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 PM on 04/01/2008

I begged this guy to run for President. Vice-President?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 PM on 04/01/2008

they don't WANT to jail bush, they are REQUIRED BY LAW to jail bush. he decimated the constitution he took an oath to protect. he invaded a sovereign nation that did not attack us. he has ordered, condoned, and obviously enjoyed torturing innocent people. he suspended habeus corpus. he let new orleans drown. he spies on his own people. he let ken lay "die" a free man. he allowed terrorists to attack us on 9/11. he pardoned a traitor who outed an american agent in wartime. he can't pronounce "nuclear" after seven years on the job (actually, six years on the job, a year on vacation). HE LIED IN HIS STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS, for fuck's sake. somebody should at least punch him in the mouth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 PM on 04/01/2008

"They" would never have the votes to impeach. For christ's sake they couldn't get any bills passed let alone impeachment. Get real.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 PM on 04/02/2008

But than they would have to jail those who provided false intelligence to the white house. That would include half the CIA,FBI, and Britains Intelligence, Africa Intelligence and other variouse intelligence agencies. You would end up spending BILIONnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn of Americans Money an Manyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy years of court hearing not only in the US, but all around the world. Than you have Kofa Annea mixed up with Fraud and the Oil for food Program that ended up stealing Billions of dollars from NATO and the US. So some good did come out of the war! But now is a time for Healing, a time to get our troops home, a time to save the US Trillions of Dollars to lower what we owe china and maybe even pay them off---------so we can stand up to them. There is simply to much we can do with money, than to spend it on years upon years of court cost. It would be a bitter barttle that would just cause more divide. Now is the time to Unite. And than put in place LAWS that will hold even the President to accountablity and remember this for future reference!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 AM on 04/02/2008

Amen brother, that pretty well summarizes the view of this guy on the Chicago "L" I was talking with. He is just a working guy, and he is spitting mad at the fact that Bush has taken specific steps to decimate the US Constitution. I think 60% of the American People would like to punch him in the mouth. Kick him in the ass, too. I don't want to suggest we want to do that, but that many people would like to....

Can you imagine what the rest of the world would like to see happen to him?

Uuuuuff!

Ugh. --UB.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 AM on 04/02/2008

I'm confused. I thought all sentient Americans wanted to imprison Bush and all of his toadies.

Je pense, donc je suis populiste.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 04/01/2008

I wonder why no one in the senate did say those things.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 PM on 04/01/2008

How do all these Bush minions so rapidly become sycophants and enablers? They even ascribe false, ridiculous statements to others on the behalf of the president. McConnell must have been a thinking person at one time or another in his life. Yet, any touch with Bush renders ordinarily thinking people to become complete automatons. Never has partisanship been so a part of any administration and its political goals clouded any policy debates as in this one. In fact, I doubt there are many policy debates at all among the Bushies and only messages about how to better their propaganda. They are shameless!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 PM on 04/01/2008

If there were an Intelligence Community, Mike McConnell would not be in it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 PM on 04/01/2008

Russ has the guts---obama does nothing the the media swoons--left wing nuts on the loose!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 PM on 04/01/2008

Interesting vote count. And the Democan'ts can't figure out why no one takes them seriously. They continue to vote right along with the thugs.!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 04/01/2008

No one takes Democrats seriously? What? You think you idiots are good decent people? That's how they voted this moron in office? Clue up, pal. No one takes your president seriously, or the Religious Wrong seriously. Remember "I'm a uniter not a divider?" That's gone well, hasn't it, genius? You just hate Democrats as a group.

You just keep on hating. It's all your good at.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 PM on 04/01/2008

You don't have to be a RepubliCon to think the Dims are unserious.
In fact, The Handyman referred to the RepubliCons as "the thugs"!
The DemoCan'ts are very disappointing and yet will win in November simply because (D) is a little better than (R).
The bar is set very low.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 PM on 04/01/2008

Ya I'm sure as a Republican I should be happy with Mccains Call to War an More War and More War! That's why I'm voteing for Obama. A voice of reason, who says no war even if people put him down at the time for it! Ya, Clinton is a Follower who will go to , and vote for war if that's the popular thing to do in Washington! her votes are based on Politics and not whats good for you or I. So of the three, if you hate this war----------you must stand behind the one who said NOT to go to war. And that was and still is Obama. So so don't be so quick to put down all Demacrates or Republicans. Obama is right , we need to unite as a ONE America to change what needs to be changed. You can be part of the solution or part of the problem! thats your choice. GOOD LUCLK in your choice and how you feel about it down the road.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 AM on 04/02/2008

We have been for a long time under intense sniper fire of lies, and we thank McConnell who so dutifully reminds us of that.

I don't know what the Senators said but I would really like to see Bush in jail. I know it is not Christian to wish that on somebody, but I can't help it. He has given me the finger so many times, him, a born-again Christian, who gets his instructions directly from God, and who got from drunk to President with God's help, that I forgive myself for not behaving as a good Christian. But, would you like these days to be in the company of "good" Christians? In any case Mr. McConnell, I do want to see Bush in jail and I urge the Senators to do something about it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 PM on 04/01/2008

(:Russ Feingold:)

SO important that this administration gets called out on ALL lies and deceptive tactics. Even if you agree with what Mike McConnell is saying of the senate (I think most here do not need to be convinced of Bush's shady character)- what Mike McConnell is actually doing is ramping up the "traitor / your-for-us-or-vs.-us" rhetoric. That is dangerous, there are some very distracted americans out there. They pay attention to the news in sound-bytes. Everything is simplistic, yet carefully intended..................................that is why we are where we are today. Now if only we had more polititians that cared more for our well being than their party's image.

Thanks Russ!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:26 PM on 04/01/2008

I freakin' love Feingold.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:07 PM on 04/01/2008

I'll go along with that one
Wisconsin loves this man

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 04/01/2008

No fair! Force him out of his Senate seat to become president. Wisconsin doesn't deserve the one of the very, very few good Senators.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 04/01/2008

I said those things but I'm not in the Senate. Bush should be tried as a criminal, along with Cheney, Rice, Tenet, Rumsfeld, etc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 PM on 04/01/2008

All of them should face trial!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 PM on 04/01/2008

I think Bush should be tried, found guilty, waterboarded, and thrown in jail. That's due process, right? Wait, I will just ask the "detainees" in Guantanamo if that seems fair.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:46 PM on 04/01/2008

I think jailing bush and his whole crew would be a fine idea , not to mention justice .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 PM on 04/01/2008

it's called revving up the sheep in the republican party. they will stoop to any thing to get their minions excited. these minions are too brain dead to have a thought for themselves

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 04/01/2008

Dems don't have enough guts to do what they should to defend We the People. Waterboarding is too good for this POS regime.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:10 PM on 04/01/2008

There's an old joke...you say the words 'government intelligence' and everyone laughs....we all know there is no such thing....oh, and by the way, we DO want to put Bush/Cheney/Anyone-we-can-get-our-hands-on in jail....but don't let that little fact slow you down....pretend we won't, lure them in, then in January Hillary will round em up......that is one of the main reasons to support her, imho, because who hates the repugs and their flunkies the republicans more than Hillary? No one, she NEEDS to get in there, find out what these morons did, and have them all arrested, Obama just doesn't have the hate Hillary has for them, I want her in there, with a background of how it used to work, and have her tell us what the heck they really were up to....she is our gal if you want the truth. We need a President that will go after Bush, and after the beating she has taken over that vote and HIS LIES, she may just want him tried on Treason and War Crimes to get the point back into the peoples heads that he lied, remember, that's WHY IT"S AN ILLEGAL WAR. Obama doesn't HATE them nearly enough, Cheney is family, and Obama never can turn on family, Wright proves that, so no to Obama if you want the TRUTH.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 PM on 04/01/2008

"Wanting" isn't the same as "having." They can't try Bush and Cheney for anything they did with FISA before 2004 because they had legal cover from the OLC. What preventing retroactive immunity does is that it makes it possible down the road to get the full story from the telecoms, who would otherwise have no reason to cooperate besides making a deal to avoid prosecution.

Bush and co. know this, and so they are painting this picture to distort the truth, yet again, to get people to pressure Congress into granting immunity. They know it's the only way to hide what they did. But also, they view this as an affront to Presidential power, and they've worked their entire time to expand the powers of the president. A whole lot of that will get rolled back in the investigative process.

What Bush and co. failed to recognize is that the price for denying congressional oversight during their term has undermined everything they worked for. The office of the President will most likely end up weaker than when they started, because Congress will act to prevent future presidents from doing what they did, by putting into place more rules about what a president can and cannot do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 PM on 04/01/2008

I don't know why Feingold would run from such a charge. As a Democrat, I want Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, Rove, and many others to go to prison for what appear well-documented crimes. I would like accountability in some form whether it be that their wealth be taken from them and/or (my favorite) that their names be stricken from the public record and never mentioned again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 PM on 04/01/2008

Feingold *wasn't* running from such a charge; his point was simply that McConnell was completely, totally, 100% dead wrong in his claims.

However, it remains to be seen if McConnell's claims were merely Clintonesque "misstatements" based on faulty memory or outright lies. But I repeat myself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:46 PM on 04/01/2008

Loving fightorleave2 and KPinSEA

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:35 PM on 04/01/2008

I like the idea of strking Bush's name from the records and never mentioning his name again. We could start referring to Bush as "he who shall not be named".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 PM on 04/01/2008

Or just call him by his prison ID#, when issued.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 PM on 04/01/2008