What I Told Bill Moyers About Iraq 5 Years Ago -- As 'Victory' Neared

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It was April 4, 2003, just a few days before the American forces seemed likely to take Baghdad. By then, it was clear the U.S. was headed for a relatively quick victory, but already there were troubling hints that the Iraqis might not be ready to welcome us with hugs and flowers. No one knew how unprepared the U.S. was for the occupation and few in the media were raising that question.

That night, I appeared with Bill Moyers on PBS on his show NOW. I offered a critique of the media coverage so far, and the interview would conclude with Moyers asking, "Do you have a sense that when the battle is over, this story's only begun?" I answered, "We're only at the beginning." Unfortunately, I was proven correct.

Here, adapted from the transcript, was my full answer to that, and what preceded it (drawn from my new book on Iraq and the media).
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MOYERS: Do you think the public knows that the reporters who are embedded had to sign a contract with the Pentagon in order to be accepted for this role? That they had to agree to play by the rules?

MITCHELL: Well, it's a good question whether they know but also whether they care. I think, as we found in polls over the years, that the American people... believe that there should be all sorts of restrictions. And, of course, everyone agrees that in war time there should be more restrictions. But the question is, to what degree?

MOYERS: I saw your story about USA TODAY the other day... the editor of USA TODAY got in trouble for this photograph, didn't he?

MITCHELL: Well, they ran a photograph of some dead Iraqi soldiers on the front page. And a large number of readers, they told us, complained because on the same day they ran a photo inside of a U.S. soldier surrounded by happy Iraqi children. And so these people were saying, "Why wasn't that photo on the front page instead of the dead Iraqi soldiers?"

Another example I'll give you, the DALLAS MORNING NEWS editor told us that they've gotten a lot of complaints for showing dead civilians or damaged civilians of Iraqis on the on the front page. And he says that it's viewed by the readers as an anti-war statement... showing the casualties on the other side is an anti-war statement. And that really goes against all the principles of press coverage that we believe in which is, you know, showing what is happening. And letting the people deal with it as they can.

MOYERS: Do you think that journalists can be objective about what they're reporting when they are alongside the troops who are protecting them as they move forward?

MITCHELL: Well, I think that's one of the problems. These reporters have been living with these troops. Reporting with them, getting to know them. And, of course, that's all terrific. You know, no one could really be against that.

But in practice it could modify or adjust what they report about the actions....One of the problems in this whole campaign has been that originally we were told that the embedded reporters would only make up maybe half of the reporters who would be covering the conflict. The rest would be independent. But what's happened is because of the dangers over there-- almost all the reporters are the embedded reporters. So there's very few free-roaming reporters who can report without any restrictions whatsoever.

But the problem is that the commentators on TV have almost from the beginning adopted a "we" attitude. They now are reporting, "We are advancing. We are taking fire. We are taking prisoners."

So all objectivity has been dropped. And, as human beings, I think we could agree it's understandable in this situation. But, as journalists, it's not the best situation where commentators, anchormen-- reporters in the field -- are talking about this as a "we" rather than a U.S. mission or the U.S. soldiers.

MOYERS: Fox News has become the cheerleader for the government. What does it do to other news organizations when Fox proves that jingoism is more popular than journalism?

MITCHELL: I think the problem with that is that a lot of the other-- particularly the cable news networks have-- felt that they have to keep up with that. I think there's a certain competition to show that they're not soft on the war, that they don't have any less patriotism than Fox. And we've seen it just this morning. I saw an interview on CNN with an Australian woman who had been in Baghdad and had just left. And the woman kept saying that, you know, she was amazed how much the Iraqi people, although they may not like Saddam Hussein, were very angry about the bombings.

Many of their children had been injured or killed....And the person who was the interviewer back in the U.S. asked her one aggressive question after another. After he finished talking to her, he then sort of editorialized on the air, saying-- "Well, we've talked to countless people who say that the Iraqi civilians will welcome with open arms the American soldiers."

Now that may or may not be true. But the point is that even after one of the rare kind of dissenting or contrary opinions was expressed, the anchor felt he had to then jump in and editorialize, saying, "You can disregard what this woman said. You know, we have other information."

The press should report straight down the line. You know, let the people see all sides. Let the people get all the information as quickly as they can. And let the chips fall where they may....

MOYERS: What concerns you about what's not being covered?

MITCHELL: My complaint is with the cable news networks that are on 24/7 and yet have found virtually no time to interview psychologists and theologians and other observers who could talk about what this is doing to us what this is doing to us as a country....

MOYERS: What do you think is stake for democracy and how we journalists cover this war?

MITCHELL: Edward R. Murrow had a quote on his wall in his office from Thoreau in which he said something like, "To speak the truth, you need two people. One to speak it and one to hear it." And I think that sums up the relationship not only between the military and the press but the press and the American people. You know, the press often is reporting factual matters. And the public sometimes turns away from it. We entered this war, with upwards of half the people in the country believing that Saddam Hussein was behind the 9/11 attack.

Now, how did that happen? Was that the media's fault? Was it the government's fault for putting out the stories? Or is the public sometimes not receptive, and the public wants to believe what the public wants to believe?

MOYERS: Last question. Do you have a sense that when the battle is over, this story's only begun?

MITCHELL: I don't think most Americans understand that this is going to be something that's with us for years and decades, and I'm not sure we get a sense of that from the coverage which seems to be oriented towards next week or next month, when the battle will be over. The boys will start to come home, and it will be a glorious episode in our past rather than something that's just the beginning of this story.

We're really at the beginning of the story of the US and Iraq and the 21st century.

Mitchell's new book is, So Wrong for So Long: How the Press, the Pundits -- and the President -- Failed on Iraq. It includes a foreword by Joseph L. Galloway and a preface by Bruce Springsteen, and has been hailed by our own Arianna, Glenn Greenwald, Bill Moyers, Paul Rieckhoff and others.

 
 

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Very prescient comments by Greg Mitchell! The press has shown a remarkable tone deafness to the feelings of average Iraqi citizens. The American public feels that whatever our country does is right. The army co-opted otherwise good journalists through the process of embedding them with troops. That the war was too dangerous for journalists to report on their own should have been a loud signal about the tensions there. Fox News does lead other news organizations to the right and make them compete for the most jingoistic remarks. The press no longer reports on the administration it cheerleads it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 AM on 04/06/2008

I'm a fan of Greg Mitchell from his Editor and Publisher columns. Plus, anyone who edited "Crawdaddy" is all right by me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 PM on 04/05/2008

Give them a chance please! This is a hundred year + war and we're just a few years into it. Please be patient.

/sarcasm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 PM on 04/05/2008

Iran is next, all they have to do is manufacture a threat big enough in the minds of Americans and the Neocons continue with their plans.

Pictures of Iran our media will never show you
http://www.lucasgray.com/video/peacetrain.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 PM on 04/05/2008

Great photos BTW

Imagine, Iranians asreal people...some nerve they've got to think that!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 AM on 04/06/2008

Federal Education puts the War State and the Israel Lobby in charge of educating the masses in school, Federal charters put the same people in charge of mind control through the media. Anti worker political parties make us the only country where no one has time to read or shares a common language. It's a perfect storm, and no band aid to the infotainment elite is going to save us. No dictatorship has ever had this thought control apparatus, complete with secret data mining by connected cronies. Imagine anyone making a meaningful analysis of the world against this century long conspiracy. Lets not be stupid and pretend writing books is doing something. Local autonomy and face to face communication, as in the age when religious orders preserved the remnants of historical civilization, is the solution, and will restore the concept of educated people in the ruins of this classic failed state.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 PM on 04/05/2008

Greg, a good post but what else is new? Our Country's envolvement in Iraq is merely a continuation of our Country's March to Follies . How sad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 PM on 04/05/2008


It's not a war, it's an occupation, and we can get out whenever we damn please, if we wanted.

The only reason to stay on is for the oil. So there's the question. Bring them home, or blood for oil.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 PM on 04/05/2008

The Bush administration sold this war as a cakewalk and the pity of it is they actually believed it. I wrote my congressman before the vote on the war and told him that occupying Iraq would make Beirut look like a Sunday school picnic but being a blue dog he voted for it anyway.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 04/05/2008

Why we went to war (fraud) can be easily verified. The lies and half-truths the White House disseminates, can be compared with the facts. But why we stay in Iraq is truly puzzling when all we have to do is change the sport's jargon of "winning and losing" to "conqueror and vanquished" realizing that we can leave Iraq without being either conquerors or the vanquished!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:01 PM on 04/05/2008

When I really started to worry was when I realized that I knew more about Iraq than the people in the Bush administration did and I was only a casual student of middle eastern history, a hobbyist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 PM on 04/05/2008

I had precisely the same thought although I also had the advantage of actually having been to the Middle East, which is more than I can say for many of the administration hacks who haked this misbeggotten conflict.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 AM on 04/06/2008

After Ronald Reagan and Don Rumsfeld gave one of their closest allies Saddam Hussein chemical weapons technology and the real time satellite intel to use it on Iranians and his own people. After George H.W. Bush gave Saddam diplomatic permission to invade a disputed portion of Kuwait, then turned on his ally for perceived homeside political and economic benefits and closer ties to the Saudis. After Bill Clinton viewed Iraq as a major way to wag the dog away from his myriad of personal problems, initiated harsh economic sanctions and food blockades targeted at starving and killing Iraqi children (something Madeline Albright has said she's proud of), then allied himself officially with the emerging neocon chickenhawks with the regime change policy he enacted. After George W. Bush has done every sick and twisted (expletive deleted) thing he's done.

I'm heartsick and despairing at my country. We are war criminals, and unfortunately we have too many nukes for the rest of the world to do anything about it, so we have to fix ourselves, and fast. Personally, as an Iowan, I'm in favor of seceeding with the entire upper Midwest into Canada. That would take another Civil War of course, but better we fight ourselves for the future of this country than we continue current foreign policies any longer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 PM on 04/05/2008

I find it to be absolutely amazing that most Americans either ignore the disturbing facts concerning our past actions in the Middle East, or they are totally ignorant of them to begin with. We aided Iraq in their fight against Iran by providing them with weapons, intel and money -- all of which were used to kill Iranians in a war that we had no business meddling in. Oh...we were mad at the Iranians because they took our people hostage, so we had a right to aid Iraq, you say? Well, perhaps people are not familiar with the fact that the American CIA supported a sneaky little scheme to help overthrow Iran's leader in the 50s, so that they could install the Shah -- a leader who was friendly to the U.S. but mean to his own people. Undoubtedly, ALL Iranians are familiar with our covert misdeed, which is what led to their taking our people as hostages. Now, when Iranians allegedly supply insurgents with weapons to kill American soldiers, our leaders want to conveniently forget about our arming Iraq to kill Iranians, while they try to convince everyone that we should go invade Iran. This is pure hypocrisy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 AM on 04/06/2008

You speak truth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 PM on 04/05/2008

The most likely to cecede and join canada is New England and probably New York.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 PM on 04/05/2008

Don't forget Collie-for-nee-ya!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 PM on 04/05/2008

California has the world's seventh largest economy so it could likely stand by itself. Once upon a time, individual states had a national guard controlled by each governor but thanks to Bush and a GOP Congress the feds now control the guard. Nevetheless, what could the federal government do if California voters overwhelmingly approved by referendum an act of succession? Considering the state of the US military and its vvarious overseas commitments, there's hardly a military force in the US that could deal with open rebellion by one or more states.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:05 AM on 04/06/2008

The process is already under way in my state. Please have a look at http://www.vermontrepublic.org/.

I for one will carry my Vermont passport with pride.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:58 PM on 04/05/2008

will the moto of vermont, be the pervert paradise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 AM on 04/06/2008

We the People of a title only United States, are not young baby boomers of the 1946 to 1964 years anymore who for the most did get involved in their country and the political process being taught by the parents and their friends.

We now have a huge mix of baby boomers and genernation X and generation of the You tube, /My Space/Face book. The last 2 generations is about the individual. It is not a we or us to be united.

We still have baby boomers who refuse to move over. They don't remember it clearly when JFK ran for president. The people running against him was much older, they too did not want to let go of the bus steering wheel. So here we are again. A fight between the group of the past wanting to still holding on (by the way they drove the bus into the ditch at the same time flipped it over several times) with such a very tight grip. They are willing to destroy themselves( also known as strap explosives to their own body body) to kill the democratic party.

If American stop and add of all this nations wars since it's 400 years birth, we have killed a lot of people under the title of United States of America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 04/05/2008

If you look over the footage of people protesting in the streets - hundreds of thousands of them - before the start of this debacle, you'll see a lot of "old" faces. As a baby boomer, I fought my government in the 1960s, while my parents sat it out at home.

I was back out this time, fighting again - and I saw far too many "young" faces. I kept wondering where the protest songs were, where the college kids shutting down the deans office were, where were the snarled traffic while kids parked their cars and refused to move in protest.

My generation, with the energy of youth, stopped the killing. If you want us to "get out of your way," seems like you better put down your blackberries and ipods and get moving!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 04/05/2008

I knew the attack on Iraq was unwarranted and I knew it from reading the news that was there for everyone else to read. I also used a bit of commonsense and knowledge. I mean everybody should have know Iraq had nothing left after the first war that was launched after the invasion of Kuwait. It didn't take a lot of brains to figure out it was about oil and had nothing to do with democracy or liberation from a tyrant who was a good friend and armed by the United States. But people wanted to believe America is always a good guy rather than America is usually a bad guy and riven with ignorance and bigotry. The sad fact is Americans had no idea where Kuwait was or why Hussein invaded it. They wanted to believe that Kuwait would become a democracy. That was rich.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 AM on 04/05/2008

Kuwait is a democracy, which was invaded by Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 AM on 04/06/2008
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