Hillary Clinton Asks Obama Pledged Delegates In North Dakota To Switch

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Political Radar   |  ELOISE HARPER and SUNLEN MILLER   |   April 5, 2008 04:31 PM


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Sen. Hillary Clinton made a blunt appeal to North Dakota delegates to switch their support to her, despite the fact that Sen. Barack Obama handily defeated her in the state's caucus in February.

In an indication of how tense the battle has become for each Democratic delegate, Obama abandoned the campaign trail in Pennsylvania and scooted to North Dakota for the state party's annual dinner last night, despite the fact that he's already won 14 of the state's 21 delegates as well as six of the state's seven superdelegates.

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She needs to be stopped by the democrat party to prevent her from committing political suicide. She would surely get the pity vote if she got out gracefully, but at this rate she may not be re-elected back to the senate. I honestly think she in so deep, she nor bill know when to quit, and don't count on the supporters to tell her because they're in a state of denial as well. I think this race bound for a train-wreck, but none of the leaders in the democratic party has the ball to reign in Bill or Hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 04/07/2008

Yikes this woman gives me the creeps. She reminds me of the character Pearl in the Will Ferrel "Landlady" short.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 PM on 04/07/2008

Doesn't this woman have any shame?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 04/07/2008

She has no shame, no scrupules, is contradictory, lies and will stoop to anything at this point to try to "win". With all the deception, lies and resulting crises (economic, foreclosures and the war) that we have lived through during the past 8 years, this is the last thing our country needs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 04/07/2008

Well now it's official. After insisting that all the votes should count, she is now trying to sway pledged delegates, elected by the people.

And she does this in the caucus state of North Dakota. After repeatedly disparaging the caucus process as undemocratic, she now expects these Obama superdelegates, elected in a caucus, to switch to her? They ought to give her the middle-finger salute instead.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 04/07/2008

Superdelegates are not elected in a caucus. In fact, caucuses do not elect anybody. They are closed door events held at a set time locking out many real voters who have to work or can't get a sitter at that time or any number of reasons. That's why the numbers at caucuses are generally 90% less than open primaries. And if you think it is proper to give the finger to a sitting US Senator or to anyone for that matter, you are not only clueless, you are classless. Or should I say "A typical Obama supporter".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 04/07/2008

Hillary must have noticed that over the past 50 days only 6 superdelegates have endorsed her whereas Obama has added 60 superdelegates to his endorsement list. Desperate times, desperate measures?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 AM on 04/07/2008

No one said it any better than bill maher ' why didn't she channel some of this creativity into her marriage?'

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 AM on 04/07/2008

I'm for Mr. Obama in this race; however, no reasonable person can blame Mrs. Clinton for her husband's shortcomings.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 04/07/2008

Hillary's motto: "there's no shame in her game!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 PM on 04/06/2008

I use to be a Clinton supporter but I've seen the light. How come people continue to support her. She's so desperate and lacks integrity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 PM on 04/06/2008

I would think that at some points the feminists and feminist organizations like Emily's List would repudiate Clinton as being an unworthy representative of American women.

BTW, this action on hillary's part is completely inconsistent with her demand to seat the FL and MI delegations as reflecting the "vote" taken in those states - since that would require the deletages "elected" (in the defective votes held in those two states) to be faithful to the candidates they pledged to support.

Or rather, it is quite consistent with the one principle Hillary holds to - whatever will help her WIN, is good and OK.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 04/06/2008

BOTH Sens. McCain and Clinton are walking examples of what experience has come to mean in Washington DC:..The ability to fog over a mirror for many more years than the other person............
The one thing that separates Obama from the other two candidates is the fact that he has finer honed INSTINCTS than both of them put together.Obama's early exposure to institutionalized corruption in Indonesia, his subsequent exposure to less than equal treatment of native Hawaiians have given him a vast reservoir of EMPATHY for the underdog.His concern for the working american citizen reveals a "been there, done that"can-do attitude, that has him holding education as the key to a better quality of life ffor those willing to work hard for it.........Clinton and McCain are supremely "experienced" when it comes to political survival: Giving speeches with one eye on the polls..... .....Obama's speech was calling for each individual american to look inward, challenging each one of us to "become the change that we would like to see in the world".....It would appear that the bloggers and talking (MT)heads have taken the speech only to regurgitate over and over ....and over again, as Senator Obama had warned COULD happen....So, why don't we -individually- turn down the volume and look and listen within our own hearts to se where we are on our individual journey to a more perfect union..>?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 04/07/2008

Amen. Part of Hillary's credibility lapse has been her contradicting messages, like the one above that you pointd out. You can't argue for voters to be counted on one hand, and then ask delegates to forsake the voters on the other.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 PM on 04/06/2008

I agree. Hillary is a Walking Contradiction because she will do ANYTHING to win including:

* Say and do things her constituents oppose.

* Financially still her most ardent supporters like Ohio and Iowa.

* Pull the Gender Cards despite the fact that true Feminist want her to stand on her merit,

* Behind the scenes she and Ickes are telling the SDs that Obama can't win because he is Black, but fakes emotion during and MLK speech.

* Lies about a host of things like Bosnia, Ireland, Helathcare Story, her position on Iraq, but says, "trust me'".

She really does require counseling.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 PM on 04/06/2008

why vote at all then? If the delegates are given on vote count, and they can do what ever they want anyway, why have the American people get out of bed? Why not let Hillary beg for the delegate to like her more?

This is yet another vile tactict of Hillary. Oh, and we can't leave out the people that voted in FL and MI. Their voices must be heard.>>>>not really. Hillary doesn't care about the will of the people, just herself. That is a fact at this point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 04/06/2008

Got coronation?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 04/06/2008

Hmm. Maybe we can get Paul Hipp to write a new verse to his famous Huffington Post song and sing it to Senator Clinton.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-hipp/stop-this-shit_b_25442.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:26 PM on 04/06/2008

Seems kind of a sleazy move on Clinton's part, not that this should be surprising. I've never heard of candidates trying to steal their opponent's delegates before, and I have lived through many campaigns.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 PM on 04/06/2008

Did you say the same thing about the SDs who have switched from Clinton to Obama? You think he didn't go asking for their support, and that he isn't continuing to approach the delegates who have said they support her?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 04/06/2008

I don't see any record of Obama openly asking those SD to switch over. What is supported by documentation is that the SD switched over because they recognized him as the best candidate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 PM on 04/07/2008

SD's are free to support anyone. Althought they may have pledged to support a candidate, they are free to change their mind as much as they want.

OTOH, delegates elected by the voters in primaries have pledged that if elected they will support the candidate whose name they ran as supporters of. They were ELECTED on the basis that they would support that candidate. For them to the switch is sort of like breaking their promise to the voters who elected them to vote for candidate A or B.

SD's were choen precisely to be free agents that can vote for whomever they wish.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 PM on 04/06/2008


I imagine such subtle points will be lost on most of Clinton's supporters here.....after all, they don't seem to mind HER lying, distorting and manipulating information to meet her needs, so why shouldn't those who give her a pass on her lack of veracity and accuracy let a little thing such as you pointed out sway them?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 AM on 04/07/2008

She's really disgusting. Did I mention how goofy she comes off with those pointings to fictitious people in the audience? It gets worse when she starts the seal clapping. Even more so when she nods her head in approval of her own words. Ugh!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 PM on 04/06/2008

"We have not, are not, and will not pursue the pledged delegates of Barack Obama."

-Clinton Campaign Spokesman Phil Singer, Feb. 19.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:33 PM on 04/06/2008

If Clinton supporters imagine all of Hillary's tactics (poaching delegates, trying to get ballots counted when her name isn't even on them--because she promised, as he did, to honor the states' schedule) being done by Obama instead, wouldn't it bother them?

If you have that kind of reaction, if it would bother you for OBAMA to do this, it tells you what your candidate is doing is wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 04/06/2008

She has no shame. Absolutely disgusting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 PM on 04/06/2008

why did that woman have to retract her correct assessment about having spotted a monster?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 PM on 04/06/2008

Then we can start on getting rid of the dems in the senate, and house.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 04/06/2008

I hope they do switch I know Johnny Mac can beat her for sure because her favorable rating is less than 50% no, and with the Independants of which 60% will vote for McCain, and we can have us another republican prez. yip peeeeeeeee!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 PM on 04/06/2008

Tacky, tacky, tacky. This is not strong, this is not determined, this is just plain tacky. Obviously, she doesn't give a damn about the actual voters who have participated thus far in the primary process, unless they voted for her. Considering how offensive her campaign has been in dismissing the relevance of states like North Dakota up until now (since any state Obama won didn't really matter, right?), I would hope those delegates in North Dakota take a moment to remind her they're in one of "those states" and tell her where she can stick her newfound interest in their state. What a creep.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 04/06/2008

Keep dreaming, girlfriend. I myself am attending my State Convention next month and I switched from Clinton TO Obama, after being die-hard Clinton supporter and pledging accordingly...as have many other people I've spoken to. Her campaign is an unmitigated disaster; she has exposed herself repeatedly to be completedly devoid of ethics, Party loyalty, integrity, as well as any economic or financial acumen (crappy campaign spending decisions, and proclaiming Greenspan the possible cure to, when he was actually one of the architects of, our economic woes). If this is how she runs a campaign, I do NOT want to see what her presidency might look like. I will happily vote for her over McCain, but that is still a position that I hope not to find myself in come November.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 04/06/2008

It is "Limbo Rock" time for HIllary....."How low can you gooo"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 04/06/2008

I'll say this once again. Why is it okay for her to disenfranchise the voters in ND while at the same time weeping crocodile tears for the disenfranchised voters of FL and MI?

And why does anyone still think she gives a crap about anything but getting into the White House? Every time I see that plastic smile on her face I want to barf.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 04/06/2008

Her campaign previously promised not to do this, of course.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 04/06/2008

I thought she said caucus states were undemocratic and the states she won are the ones that count the most as opposed to the ones Obama won? Did I miss something? Were those people in the states she dissed listening? In the Clinton playbook is it okay for the teams who cheated to decide the winner of the contest?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:22 PM on 04/06/2008

Something tells me that in this hypothetical that more Clinton pledged delegates would switch to Obama then from Obama to Clinton. Maybe she is actually laying groundwork for a self-inflicted political harakiri

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 PM on 04/06/2008

She does seem to have all the political nuance of a suicide bomber here, that's for sure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:12 PM on 04/06/2008
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