Who Can Beat McCain?

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Lotta folks on this site hating Hillary because she's a woman. Lotta folks on this site loving Hillary because she's a woman. Makes me think that, in some quarters, men have been uncomfortable with women a lot longer than whites have been uncomfortable with blacks.

Sometimes I honestly believe that a racist white guy would vote for Obama over anyone like his wife or mother. A woman as Commander-and-Chief? Uh-uh, they say.

How sad.

Lotta folks worried about Obama's level of experience. Whatever you do, don't buy into that Republican bullshit. Obama is FDR compared to this Bush. The GOP committed every possible sin in order to get Bush elected. They forged a whole set of new ones to get him reelected. Everyone around the world recognizes that America is in real trouble. Most Americans do, too.

The past eight years have been the moral low point of the American experience.

I have said in these pages before that either candidate has the potential to make a very good president. Clinton is smart and shrewd in ways that will serve her well in office. I think she would play a Democratic Congress like a violin. Obama will have the great fortune of being able to attract his own version of the "Best and the Brightest", an army of brilliant and capable reform-minded people who would normally abjure political careers as the result of their inherent cynicism.

Who can beat McCain? That is all that matters.

McCain is another right-wing, retro, deficit-loving, never-seen-a-defense-appropriation-I-didn't-like tool. But there are a lot of people in this dumbed-down country that will buy that. They want to turn the clock back. To what, I don't know. Which Democrat will give a critical number of Americans the courage to move forward? This election represents a turning point for this country, not only internally, but regarding our future among the other nations of the world. America will begin to, albeit slowly, irreversibly go down if we do not get this right.

It is wrong to assume that either of these Democrats is less qualified than the other. But Democrats must think like Republicans, now more than ever. Who can win?

You think major GOP fundraisers sat back and clucked over the nomination of Bush in 2000? You must be joking. They held their noses and went along for the ride because Republicans like James Baker and that maniac Richard Mellon Scaife have their hands on the money valve and they anointed Bush. The GOP plays to win. They don't have good candidates all that often, but they don't let that stop them. Everyone digs in and puts their shoulder behind even the lamest nominee.

If you want to advocate for Clinton or Obama, do so in the context of how they will defeat McBush.

PS: One possible consequence of an Obama presidency? Supreme Court Justice Hillary Clinton. Dang, that sounds good.

Comments

[Dianekkdi]

I have always treated blacks over the age of 50 with great respect. It's funny though...I quote my own thoughts without regard for time, I am to be 50 myself this year.

Amazing is it not, how time does and does not pass?

I based this thought of mine on the fact that any black man or woman born long enough before 1960 has taken enough crap and bourne enough ills and some respect is due.

It only occured to me recently that it was most often the white men born also in their time that gave them that crap, those ills, and that lack of respect as human beings. Tell me, what respect does that merit them?


I will not vote on the basis of black or white, male or female.

I'm almost certain I will not vote for Hillary. I voted for Ross Perot both of Bill Clinton's terms. I was not impressed by him. I am not impressed by her. They are both of the status quo.

A maccain vs. clinton election is a win/win for the repugnicans.

Obama can beat Maccain if the cheating can be overcome.

Shall we overcome?

It is my hope that we can.

[RobtBrock]

Obama will win the Dem nomination and will win one state: Massachusetts. Great.

[fightorleave2]

Mr. Baldwin, I seriously hope you ain't shilling for Hillary because if there is one thing we know: Hillary would never beat McShame, even in a year when a Democrat can't lose. Try to wrap you head around that one. And, by the way, this has nothing to do with the fact that she is a woman.

[WilliamGossett]

No one will beat McCain - it is all over but the shouting

We will all have to get used to permanent GOP rule just like people of history had to try to survive under bad kings and rulers and not always successfully.

In the long run democracy didn't work out as the power brokers learned how to tweak it to their own advantage and the masses willingly went along for the ride.

[Fasteddie1515]

Mcgrandpa will go down in the general.

[HansB]

Hillary Clinton on the Supreme Court, now THAT is what I call a brilliant idea. Sincerely.

[DRaymond]

Work it the other way too, Clinton could put Obama on the bench to sideline him as well, and unlike Clinton, Obama has legit cred for teaching Constitutional Law for years at a university.

[Nezua]

i personally don't see a lifetime appointment to the highest court in the most powerful nation in the world as being "sidelined"! in fact, the supreme court seems to have more effect with their rulings on the way we live from day to day than almost any other office i can think of, more lasting than a president's term, even. s/he can always be replaced and his/her policies reversed.

but to be honest, you are right, obama is more qualified at this point. for both offices, in fact.

[Betty W.]

The Republicans would be able to slam Sen. Obama in more ways if he's the nominee than they could if Sen. Clinton is the nominee.

[esaid]

Bill's impeachment is only one small example of why this is not true.

[esaid]

Ironic that today, when we see an article about Clinton loosing the support of women, Alec's post reappears. As it says in the article:

"These are Democratic women who waited all their lives for a woman president, but Hillary is not turning them on," said polling analyst Clay Richards.

Lotta Hillary supporters love to talk about hatred of women and it's effect on this campaign. If you want to reduce the number of men "uncomfortable with women", you should vote against Hillary. Hillary is an authoritarian boss. That is well known. She barks orders. She is known for treating people like servants.

No one likes that, men or women.

[middlevillage]

Damn.....knowing what we know now as American's who want the GOP OUT OF OFFICE, and who the Democrats have running up against one another, wouldn't you rethink the selections and give anything for a Joe Biden or Chris Dodd to be running instead. Men of experience and clearer thinking. I truly believe that either would have been much more able to handle themselves then these two feuding and a fussin' Dems are. I am very afraid that McCann will WALTZ in against either one. The GOP sticks together, in lock step, and it has worked for them over and over again. I cannot see a good outcome in this upcoming presidential election....well only that Bush and Dick will be gone.

[fightorleave2]

No, I don't, middlevillage. Joe Biden is Mr. Credit Card, and, while I like and respect, Chris Dodd, he is not presidential in the sense of inspiring a nation. He might make an excellent Sec of State or Sec of Interior, but he is not someone who will energize the voters to vote for him, as a certain other person can.

[LizM]

The 'Mr Credit Card' label is a national myth...one of many about Joe Biden. It never ceases to amaze how so many people who think they know so much about Senator Biden can actually know so very little!

[NoFactsJustTruth]

Pennsylvania Democrats have the ability, Alec, to END the deceitful, dishonest and divisive 'establishment' politics damaging their party's chances. They could reject once and for all the 'machine' politics of the past that Pennsylvania's Governor keeps shoving down their throats, and unite their party instead for a stomping of the republicants and LIEbercrats that would inflict another 100 years war on the innocent people of Iraq.

No candidate means more to that 81% of OUR country that believes we're on the WRONG TRACK, on the ability to unite diverse forces in OUR country AGAINST continued neoCON policies, and to help OUR country achieve something better than letting the LOBBYISTS elect OUR leaders and write OUR laws - than the candidate embraced by the people and NOT the corporations, Barack Obama.

I continue to hope ALL 3 of these upcoming states see this OPPORTUNITY and DO NOT vote for continuations of the LIES that got us here, but instead vote like OUR country and SAVING LIVES really matters.

The corporate establishment Clintons, or JohnnyMac, would likely try to change ...very little.

[liberalnfree]

Thank you Mr. Baldwin for a sensible and timely piece.

[xrayman]

Alec,
Boy, your brave to come on HuffPo and compliment Hillary. On these pages she's Billary, wh*re, b*tch, Satan, Bush lite, you name the slam, the put-down, the name calling, it's been said here. Just look at what is on these pages today and you can see that they give no quarter on Hillary. Watch the talk shows, they give no quarter on Hillary.

The venom that the Obama supporters have displayed toward Clinton will surely come back to bite them if he wins the Democratic nomination.

[knixphan]

Good. Glad to see you guys getting the big picture. Get that myopia checked out.

[Taratrue]

Yes, I agree.

For the first time in 30 years I will vote republican or will not vote at all if our nominee is Obama.

Signed....

50 year old white woman.

[blarsen]

You mean 50 year old RACIST white woman.

Who are you trying to fool? You don't care about the democratic party. To all of you who exhibit this type of twisted logic: you'll be voting not for a candidate for president, but for appointments to the Supreme Court.

[JBS]

Well, Kucinich is out, Edwards is out, so I'm votin' for Hillary in the primary, 'cause I think her position on health care and other issues is closer to mine than Obama's is.

Come November, I'm votin' Democratic, no matter who gets the nomination.

[WAstateliberal]

Refreshing, intelligent, everything a true Democrat would say. I support Obama 100%, and if he does not get this nomination the first check I write will be to Hillary's campaign. Her bumper sticker will go right over his on my car. Anyone who would do otherwise is not a Democrat. I have no idea why Taratrue and Demsneed2win are on this site pretending to be Democrats. How many of us are on Redstate pretending to be Repugs? Are Repugs so in-tune with their impending defeat that they have to pull the ultimate punk move and pose on liberal web sites, and cross over in Democratic nominating contests? There is no such thing as an anti-choice Hillary supporter. And if you don't care about the fact that Roe v. Wade is ONE VOTE away from being overturned, you are not pro-choice. Ergo, Taratrue and Demsneed2win are not Hillary supporters and are lying here. Go ahead, call up Hillary's campaign and ask them whether she has a take it or leave it attitude about reproductive rights. Be ready for an earful, because you will get your ass chewed raw.

[tangolopez]

You are so correct! Republicans are very good in what they do. They are willing to sacrifice their own gain for the good of the party. Mitt dropped out, so McCain can move on. Hucklebee is there but not damaging McCain at all. Look at the democrat, Obama is not doing the tearing, Hillary certainly is!!! Every little chance. She is making sure the party looses in the Fall!!! Even if she is the nominee, she has not realize that yet.
I think if this thing really go to the convention as promised by Bosnia Chick, Obama should concede and let her be the nominee. By then everything would have been torn apart. She will loose and therefore, lost her chance of running in 2012.

[elad065]

PAKEAN3 you wouldn;t sit and listen to an angry little rabbi from nazareth either!
cause he would also tell you the truth!

[elad065]

HILLARY ON TOP ? MAUREEN SHARKEY , THEY WILL TAKE OVER? THE BLACK ISSUE?
WHAT THE @!$%&@! ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!