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Andrew Sullivan: Bush Administration Officials Will Be 'Indicted For War Crimes'

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Jason Linkins is a Political Reporter at the Huffington Post, covering media and politics. He's based in Washington, DC. Previously, he wrote for HuffPo's Eat The Press, and has also contributed to DCist and Wonkette.


Media coverage of the disclosure of the "torture memo" authored by Bush Justice Department official John C. Yoo has been mostly a deafening silence. But on this morning's Chris Matthews' show, someone finally fired a shot. As we mentioned in this morning's liveblog, credit goes to The Atlantic's Andrew Sullivan, for taking the opportunity to ensure that this matter got out into the televised discourse somehow.

SULLIVAN: The latest revelations on the torture front show the memo from John Yoo...means that Don Rumsfeld, David Addington and John Yoo should not leave the United States any time soon. They will be, at some point, indicted for war crimes.

[WATCH.]

The moment came during a segment on Matthews' show where the panel is invited to "tell him something he doesn't know," though this might be more accurately termed, "something he doesn't know he should talk about." Matthews is hardly alone. Via Sullivan, we are directed to the blog of Glenn Greenwald:


Here are the number of times, according to NEXIS, that various topics have been mentioned in the media over the past thirty days:

"Yoo and torture" - 102

"Mukasey and 9/11" -- 73

"Yoo and Fourth Amendment" -- 16

"Obama and bowling" -- 1,043

"Obama and Wright" -- More than 3,000 (too many to be counted)

"Obama and patriotism" - 1,607

"Clinton and Lewinsky" -- 1,079

I'd also like to quote Greenwald at length here:

Every day, it becomes more difficult to blame George Bush, Dick Cheney and comrades for their seven years (and counting) of crimes, corruption and destruction of our political values. Think about it this way: if you were a high government official and watched as -- all in a couple of weeks time -- it is revealed, right out in the open, that you suspended the Fourth Amendment, authorized torture, proclaimed yourself empowered to break the law, and sent the nation's top law enforcement officer to lie blatantly about how and why the 9/11 attacks happened so that you could acquire still more unchecked spying power and get rid of lawsuits that would expose what you did, and the political press in this country basically ignored all of that and blathered on about Obama's bowling score and how he eats chocolate, wouldn't you also conclude that you could do anything you want, without limits, and know there will be no consequences? What would be the incentive to stop doing all of that?

He couldn't be more right, I'm afraid.

 
 

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Although I agree with most of the sentiment about the abuses of power and violations of international agreements relating to torture, I also believe that there needs to be more focus on the inception of the covert policy. By the time CheneyOilCo got their meaty little hands around "extraordinary rendition", escalated and expanded the practice, the CIA had been practicing torture by proxy for 5 years. Presidential directive "PDD 39" was devised and signed by Bill Clinton in 1995... allowing circumvention of the US ratified United Nations Convention Against Torture.

As Senator Hillary Clinton so vocally and "convincingly" assures the American electorate that those same years are the basis of her vast and superior "experience", I would have to assume that she was also involved with the decision. It might behoove an enterprising reporter/blogger to ask the Clinton Campaign about her current position on snatch and torture flights... rendition to foreign countries (or US bases on foreign soil) for "interrogation" and elimination of any semblance of due process... and ask if she supported the decision in 1995.

alienated in Seattle

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 04/10/2008

The press is Public Enemy Numero Uno, guilty of treason. Television has ONE honest old-time journalist (Olbermann) and it is meaningless to have just one--it causes the "one" to be looked upon as nothing but an "answer" to the well-paid propagandists at Faux News, a guy merely giving his opinions. (And then Olbermann is forced to feed us Britney news, and American Idol, for "good measure," so we don't "mistake" him for a real journalist.)

The public as a whole isn't reading NEWSWEEK from cover to cover, so television IS the cuplrit here. And their response is that we should be getting our news from a VARIETY of sources. Well, people don't do that. They get it from TV. Some not even that. The talking heads on TV have the ball, it is ALL riding on them, and they (especially CNN, with their Cheney-agreeing scud stud Michael Ware and all the rest), are international corporate tools, working for our enemy, knowingly and willingly killing us.

Our "enemy is not "in iraq"! He's right in front of you.

(Hi, Tweety! *wave* Thanks for being so fair toward the Republican viewpoint on your show! Even though they are the extreme minority, already getting their way in everything, while the rest of us LIVE with their dictates, thaaaanks! You sage, salty, fasinating American journalistic figure yoooo...! Read my finger Chris. And stop spitting on me when you talk.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 PM on 04/10/2008

This will probably the reason that the Bush Administration needs to call Marshall Law.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 PM on 04/10/2008

From his radical stance on abortion to his prominence in the corruption scandals that has been virtually ignored by the mainstream media, Barack Obama is not fit to be Senator -- not to mention the next President of the United States.
Obama has declared his presidential intentions, but it is up to well-informed and energetic conservatives like you to spare our nation from the scourge of a far-left President Barack H. Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 AM on 04/10/2008

Yes, Barack Obama is a COMMUNIST. He will nationalize Exxon so that its profits will accrue for the benefit of every American. No more $400 million retirement packages for cronies., thank you.He will also introduce legislation to give MEDICARE for ALL Americans. He will have his Attorney General indict Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Rice for WAR CRIMES. And Michael Moore will be made Surgeon General.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 04/10/2008

uvymopkq - you've been posting this same stupid comment on every story on HuffPo, haven't you? I'll challenge you (or anyone else) again to name more than one scandal that BO has been involved in? Come on, name anything besides Rezko! Do you know about Keating 5? About how McCain dumped his first wife & mother of his children at age 45 for a hot, young 25 year old and then "borrowed" from her trust fund to finance his first run for office? Apparently you know very little & only visit here to antagonize BO supporters. Don't worry - soon you'll have 4-8 years to do so b/c BO and the ObamaNation aren't going anywhere...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 PM on 04/10/2008

You must be mistaken. I know personally that HuffPo monitors almost all comments before allowing them to appear. This kind of folderol would not get past such strict scrutiny.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 PM on 04/10/2008

No, Neoconstant is right. Go to uvymopqk's comment and click "See Profile" -- you'll see the comments u's left. That same comment is left at several stories.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 04/12/2008


i'm pretty certain bushco
has already effectively nuetered the hague
with the recent ruling about mexico
from the supreme court.

it was trotted out as about
mexicans in u.s.
and their rights against the death penalty,
but all thinking sorts knew it to be
a pre-emtive strike against future war crimes tribunals.
the u.s. could disregard the hague -
it was on the books.

justice is blind in america,
but now it is mute as well.

johnny got his gun.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 AM on 04/10/2008

SA (sa) Thank you for that as it is much more profound than many might realize.... And, yes, when he went after and succeeded in castrating "torts" it further helped his future "dealings." Salute you

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 PM on 04/10/2008

I wish- but it ain't gunna happen
This is sullivan's biggest blunder since he postulated that conservatives had souls

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 AM on 04/10/2008

The argument that other officials have committed war crimes and so therefore it is ok or not worse that current officials are committing them is just soooo wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 PM on 04/09/2008

Mother Jones has a handy chain of command guide for the coming War Crime Tribunals.

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2008/03/abu-ghraib-chain-of-command.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 PM on 04/09/2008

I am very, very slowly gaining some respect for Sullivan. He's not there yet but he seems to be gradually waking up. Of course, he'll have a lot to make up for when he does come around but if he's willing to try, I'm willing to give him a chance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:36 PM on 04/09/2008

Oh, in case that was a little too sarcastic, I am calling you a bunch of tools for thinking that anybody was outed in the first place. Covert agents do not have their spouses write about CIA sponsored missions in the damn paper. I'm pretty sure that rule number one of being a covert agent is "don't have your spouse write about his/her secret missions in the Washington Post" or something similar to that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 04/09/2008

You Bush apologists are funny!
Maybe you and your Karl Rove poster should get a hotel room

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 AM on 04/10/2008

Please provide a link to where she "outed herself" as I missed that. Oh brother.

The RWers and their "memory hole" brains! Um, remember GWB saying he thought the outing was "very serious" and he vowed to "get to the bottom of it?" So, he didn't have to go very far, did he, the leaker was Scooter boy and GWB's get-tuff plan with him was to pardon him after he was convicted.

I swear, I honestly thing the Republicans are like Moonies, that's why they're so cozy with Rev. Moon, they use cultist tactics to program people like this guy!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 AM on 04/10/2008

I know. They get all drunk on that Limbaugh Koolaid, puffed up with confidence, then come here to spew their bile, troll around as a devil's advocate, until pinned down, and then leave in disgrace. Check out JRR's other posts and the responses here. It's a hoot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 AM on 04/10/2008

Heneghan"s intelligence sources also revealed that "former Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz was in command and control of the failed operation attempting to plant the WMD," adding, "this was kept secret for the purpose of "discovering" the weapons in order to justify the war."
READ MORE HERE: http://www.tomflocco.com/fs/GossRefusesToGive.htm


Besides, the CIA says she WAS COVERT.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 04/09/2008

And I quote "In fact, pretty much nobody on this webstie has the slightest fuclking clue what they are talking about" You are correct obviously you practice what you preach!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 PM on 04/09/2008

Valerie Plame-Wilson WAS outed as retribution for Joe Wilson blowing the whistle about the Bush administration's fabrication of evidence to keep the war drums beating. Nothing is a coincidence. Why was Valerie outed (which she was, there was a trial, not sure if you knew that) immediately following her husbands damning Op Ed then? Can't wait to see what you come up with tiger.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:32 PM on 04/09/2008

Because the article outed her. She outed herself. People, I dont kow what fantasy land you live in, but if you are a secret CIA agent, that means your spouse can not go around telling people he was working for the CIA, especially not in a major op-ed article. Wow, why is that so hard for you numbnuts to understand?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 PM on 04/09/2008

what a crock of GOP
Wilson was WELL KNOWN as a US Diplomat who worked for DADDY BUSH
The idea that he "outed" his wife by this public statement- one of MANY he made over a LONG CARREER AS A DIPLOMAT is some ROVE inspired fantasy that your little mind seems all too willing to embrace

But hey buddy - keep living the dream

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 AM on 04/10/2008

Print a single quote from Wison's article that outs her!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 PM on 04/09/2008


Convenient memory loss, or more accurately selective. Just refer back to Novak's article and his access to the White House, and Dick Cheney. Novak is a whore of Cheney. The leak was deliberate, coming from the Vice President's office.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 04/09/2008

How nice that Andrew Sullivan is just starting to see the corruption and criminality we've all been talking about since, oh, 2000. Because before now, Sullivan actually supported these a-holes and their policies to invade Iraq. Too little, too late Andrew.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 PM on 04/09/2008

Sullivan has been off the Bush bus since 2004. He voted for Kerry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:50 PM on 04/09/2008

He is still hopelessly naive. When push came to shove on Iraq he totally blew it. I can't see why anyone cares one bit about what he thinks.

Check out this appearance on Real Time (other appearaces are just as bad or worse):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQUEcPuwl9c

Re McCain being qualified to be president:
"Quite remarkably so..." Ugh.
Re al Qaeda being overemphasized by Bush people and in the media:
"It is so complicated, so we should cut them some slack." (paraphrase)

He has nothing useful to say; it's all platitudinous bs.
Idiot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 PM on 04/10/2008

Might be that one reason Democrats lose elections is snottiness. Me, when I see anybody from the other side coming over to mine, I am open-armed and overjoyed, and want to know if they've got friends and relatives who'd like to come over too. Maybe that's because I was a repug, once, for a little while. I was dead set against the invasion, but there was one thing I liked about it, if it had to be, since it couldn't be stopped. I thought (really) we were rescuing the Iraqi people from Saddam. I'm just a plain little Louisiana-Texan mother of 5, granny of 10, livin in the Ozarks. Most people do their best and are sincere. You can tell, the ones who are just evil sons of bitches. Why treat EVERYBODY as if they're evil sons of bitches, when only 19% or so are? You lose friends that way. And converts. Meaning votes. I want rescue from the living hell WE are in now, and it's going to take EVERYBODY to get us out. Quit being so elitist, y'all ain't got all that much to be snooty about, believe me.

This is your house. When people from someplace else come over, don't be ugly, be nice.

Andrew Sullivan is a great guy and an asset to our side. Bill Maher is a punk. He acted exactly the way I'm talking about. It staggers me, the way Democrats do that to people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 AM on 04/11/2008

Way to go - ditch the party after you've helped set the house on fire. No forgiveness - disenfranchise all Bush 2000 supporters!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 04/10/2008

The truth is that Sullivan profoundly harmful because he has a lot of influence because he's all over the media. I feel that he shouldn't be thought of a a credible commentator even if occasionally gets something right. Watch the youtube clip. He's just not very bright.

Individually, the people who thought it was a good idea to vote for Bush are less harmful, but they gave us the worst president ever. Of these, the ones that have figured out that Bush is disaster will, overwhelmingly, vote for McCain, who, if elected, would be another disaster.

I wouldn't expect the friends and family of the 100,000+ Iraqis killed since we invaded to be forgiving, and neither am I.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 04/10/2008

I really hope it happens. I'm not optimistic but hopeful. Why, my hope is almost audacious.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 PM on 04/09/2008

The lack of intellectual discipline on display here is astonishing. When did wishing make anything so??? Shit, I'm still waiting for Kissinger to be put on trial. Use your head.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 PM on 04/09/2008

Wow, who opened the "common sense" door and let the reality dog in? huss hussh little Huff Po readers, go back to sleep and drift off into that little fantasy land where super secret squirrel CIA agents send their Ambassador husbands on super secret missions and then have them write about it in a major news paper only to be "outed" by an evil cabal, the outing having nothing to do with writing about your super duper secret CIA mission in the freaking Washington Post of course.

That's right, back to sleep now...dream...dream.....

God, I love these Huff Po wackanutjobs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 04/09/2008

Yeehaw Coulter! You really "outted" them yella-bellied liberals. Caint theys see the good lord put Jorg Boosh here to deliver us unto hissen kingdom? Now that there is common since. Go back t sleep all yall! BY BY Joos and cathlics!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 PM on 04/09/2008

If you are going to argue common assumptions as to the motive of Valerie Plame's outing, at the very least analyze the given facts and please, for god sakes offer a counter hypothesis. Why then was Valerie Plame outed immediately following her husbands OpEd damning the Bush Administration for desperately trying to rake up (or fabricate) evidence to support a preemptive attack of Iraq? Testimony proved an administration, namely Rove, Cheney & Libby that was livid over the Washington Post OpEd. Written testimony pointed to Dick Cheney who went so far as to lead the effort in digging up mud on Joe Wilson after the piece was written. Here's an article from the Times -- http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/25/politics/25leak.html Simply put, the burden of evidence illustrates an administration hell bent on punishing dissenters. Only a wackanutjob would counter the burden of evidence in lieu of an alternate hypothesis and you, a moronowingnutmentalmidget, haven't even offered an alternative story behind the outing! Drink some more of the Koolaid go back to the Dredge Report where you'll find some softball discussion that suits you better. Many users here at HuffPo can architect solid arguments by using a nifty little tool we call g-o-o-g-l-e. We find stories and transcripts and data and then we read. It's a crazy thing. I hope that was sarcastic enough for you JRR - Just Really Republican

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 PM on 04/09/2008

"Why then was Valerie Plame outed immediately following her husbands OpEd damning the Bush Administration for desperately trying to rake up (or fabricate) evidence to support a preemptive attack of Iraq? "

Because the article outed her! You can't be a covert agent and let it be known your spouse is working for the CIA. Are you people seriously this retarded?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 04/09/2008

Why is it that neocon troglodytes feel that they've made a point more salient simply by repeating the LIES ad nauseam?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:42 PM on 04/09/2008

So true! This has been their M.O. forever. Just keep repeating the lies and call anyone who disagrees with them disloyal or a traitor or a "numbnuts."

And speaking of traitors--I wish Andrew Sullivan were right about the war crime indictments. But I don't believe it will ever happen.