Secret US Plan Sets No Time Limit For US Presence In Iraq

I'm sorry, but somebody thought this was a secret? LOL!
as inept as these morons in the Cheney Administration are, the prospect of forever war only makes them lick their sweaty jowls in eager anticipation at the profits to be made in perpetually fighting a battle that will never be completely extinguished. why stop the fun because a few clumsy National Guardsmen get waxed? Can you say "acceptable losses?" how about "expendable?" or is the term "cannon fodder" more appropriate?? the Dickster's comment is extremely telling: "they volunteered."
think him, George, Condi, Betrayus, or the rest of these maggots lose a minute's sleep over the men and women they've sent to certain doom? Their callouses have callouses!
that's why they set it up this way. not having an exit strategy should have been a clue...

SmackwaterJack doesn't get to 4, being Bye, Bye, Miss American Pie, or it's all over.

When the Dems arrive in '09 God willing, who cares about what this BushCo group puts together... It can't be a treaty. Even treaties are broken. We need to pack our bags, and get back to the business of this plundered and ravaged country!

I read this as another step towards war with Iran

rather than justifying the status quo within Iraq.

Darth has promised the Likudists and Saudis

we will destroy Iran's energy capabilities and

diminish Iran's influence in the Middle East.

Shhhhhhhh, it's a secret.

What is so secret?!!
They published the goals of a "New Roman Empire" very clearly with the PNAC report on a vision of the future without the USSR long ago.
Now we have fools who accept the idea that "WE" as a country have the "Right" nay...the "Obligation" to install some government sympathetic to the idea that international oil corporations should take 80% of the petro revenues and leave 20% to the puppet government to maintain control of their own impoverished masses. Of course, this ignores the fact that the war was based on lies and they let Bin Laden escape.
It you do not support the PNAC agenda or the idea that every Muslim is a potential threat to moronic cowards living on the other side of the planet, you become an object of scorn.
At the Nuremburg trials the Nazis explained this is how they were able to crush the intellectuals as traitors and unpatriotic. This time the Neo-nazis do not represent our national interest but some totalitarian international capitalist dream. The stupid and intellectually lazy feel comfortable hiding their fear with bravado against reason.

Secret my arse, only for those that were like, not paying attention, gullible, and have blind faith, Or those that are completely apathetic to the world around them.

1) Afganistan was part one.

2) Iraq was part two.

3) Iran is part three.

And that's no secret.

As long as there is oil to be pumped, our soldiers will be there to die for it. Make no mistake about that!

No surprise here. For anyone who has followed this fiasco it was obvious that Bush/Rumsfeld/Cheney never planned for us to leave.

Doesn't it bother anyone that "Secret" and "Confidential" documents are being leaked to the press? I find it amazing that many on this post where all up in arms when the (not so) "secert agent" was outed and now fall silent about this.

When secerts get leaked bad things happen for all involved and it hurts my heart when I see crap like this. I weep for the future of this nation if our secerts are going to be used for politics and political gain.

This is not a left, right, democrat or republican thing. It is an American thing.

you can call it imperialism, or you can call it colonialism, or you can simply say it's robbery (yes, the oil), but you can't call it democracy. even if that were the true goal, what hubris! what are we a nation of control freaks? i'll cast my vote for the label of piracy. or you can call it exploitation. or you can call it war profiteering. one might be tempted to say nobody wins, everybody loses, but that's not true. a few crooks have lined their pockets nicely (if that's what winning is).

A new assessment of U.S. policy in Iraq by the same experts who advised the original Iraq Study Group concludes that political progress is " so slow, halting and superficial" that the United States is no closer to being able to leave Iraq than it was a year ago.

The experts reassembled by the US. Institute of Peace, which convened the Iraq Study Group in 2006, went on to state
"The decentralized fragmented political dynamic in Iraq cannot be reversed".

So I guess one man"s "almost back to normal" is another man"s "irreversible fragmented political dynamic".

Hmmmmm, whom to believe?

Establishing a base of operations for future contingencies close to the world's trouble spots is a solid strategy. Obama and/or Hillary should be thanking Pres Bush for this forward thinking to redefine ME dynamics. BRAVO!

The only post WWII wars we've had major, prolonged engagement in have been Korea and Vietnam. In both instances, stability has come in the form of a nation, geographically (if not ethnically) divided, with a protracted US military presence; a situation not dissimilar to post WWII Germany. With Sunni (Saudi Arabia w/ US backing) and Shiite (Iran) influence equally divided in the region, a similar situation is likely to arise in Iraq; hence McCain's "100 year presence" expectancy. The sooner the geographical boundaries are set and the profits from the oil fields (not the oil fields themselves - those will undoubtedly remain under US/Western supervision) are somehow divided between Iraqi Sunni and Shiia, the sooner the bulk of our troops will be able to come home and those who remain, will be much safer.

Q And how -- what kind of deadline would you perceive within that resolution?

Bush on the importance of deadlines:

THE PRESIDENT: Well, there will be deadlines within the (use of force) resolution. Our chief negotiator for the United States, our Secretary of State, understands that we must have deadlines. And we're talking days and weeks, not months and years. And that's essential for the security of the world. This man has had 11 years to comply. For 11 long years, he's ignored world opinion. And he's put the credibility of the United Nations on line.

Press Conf. 9/13/02
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/09/20020913.html

Touring Florida in a last-minute push to get seniors on board, Bush said the May 15 deadline was "important" because "deadlines help people understand there's finality and people need to get after it."

http://newstandardnews.net/content/index.cfm/items/3147

Not much of secret, is it? They have a lot of oil.

Now add Iran to this! This morning FOX NEWS was spewing that the Iranians added another
3000 tubes and even China is upset LOL. What is wrong with this picture. They can make
electricity anyway they like but Bush and his croonies are putting NUKES into their hands so
they have a reason to attack and then blame it again on faulty intel. We have been thru this
before but people never get smarter, they never learn.

Republicans = Military Failure

There is nothing very secret about the blatant disregard for human life this administration manifests. There is nothing very secret about the real reasons for this war, the billions being made by these criminals.

Huff 'n Puffers, do any of you think the War Pigs are going to relinquish this cash-cow called Iraq without a fight?

Does this surprise anyone? We remain in Germany, Japan, Korea, Kosovo etc.