State Of The Race: Superdelegates Moving To Obama

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Posted April 8, 2008 | 09:39 AM (EST)



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Hillary Clinton is not a "dead woman walking" yet. It is a mischaracterization of the Democratic Party process to compare her chances to those of Ralph Nader or even to those of Mike Huckabee, who could only have won the nomination after Romney's endorsement of McCain if the Republican front-runner had suffered massive health failure; there is still a coherent scenario that could lead to Clinton's nomination.

This is not to say that the Democratic contest is tight. It isn't. In fact, Clinton's chances are getting slimmer by the day -- and I'm not even talking about the polls from the upcoming primaries that show her losing her grip on Pennsylvania and fallen far behind in North Carolina. Hillary's most pressing problem right now is that the audience she needs to convince so desperately is no longer waiting, with many superdelegates choosing to rally behind Obama:

* Jeanne Lemire Dahlman, a Montana National committeewoman and a superdelegate, announced tonight that she was backing Obama -- though she added that she could reconsider her choice if Hillary Clinton wins Montana on June 3rd.

* An even more complicated scenario unfolded with another Montana superdelegate, Margaret Campbell. She announced this morning that she was endorsing Obama before retracting herself tonight citing (1) her need to talk to tribal leaders before making a public announcement and (2) party rules that forbid the vice chair (among others) from making endorsements in a contested primary. Though Campbell will not be added to Obama's count, however, it is evident that he has to feel good about getting her endorsement eventually if the main reason she retracted herself were party rules.

* Meanwhile, new superdelegates are being added to the roll as more states are holding their conventions and choosing their add-ons. This week-end, North Dakota picked businessman Dan Hannaher, an Obama supporter, as its add-on. Saturday, Missouri selected its two add-ons, one of which is an Obama supporter (the other, gubernatorial candidate Jay Nixon, is uncommitted). So count two more convention votes for Barack.

* Clinton also got some rare but very welcome good superdelegate news today as Arkansas Land Commissioner Mark Wilcox announced he was supporting Hillary. 11 out of 12 of the state's supers are Clinton backers, with the last hold-out still uncommitted.

* Meanwhile, Senator Tom Harkin from Iowa, a very high-profile uncommitted superdelegate, implied today that he was leaning towards Obama's candidacy though he insisted that he would not announce any endorsement before the end of primary season on June 3rd. Harkin explained that he was disappointed in Hillary Clinton's suggestions that the Iowa caucuses disenfranchised voters and added that that would feature in his final decision...

Since Super Tuesday, Obama has netted almost 70 delegates while Hillary Clinton has had a net loss because of defections, some of them high-profile (Rep. Lewis). Clinton's hope is that some major event (a new scandal ["Obama is caught in flagrante delicto with an armadillo" suggests Zoot in a recent comment], further evidence of Obama's total incapacity of winning upcoming blue-collvar votes, or/and a stunningly impressive string of victories by Clinton) would suddenly give her enough momentum to go back to superdelegates and get their attention. There are still enough uncommitted delegates for this scenario to be coherent and possible, but as their pool diminishes Clinton needs a higher and higher proportion of remaining superdelegates to turn to her and as of now most are turning to her rival instead.

Naturally, superdelegates are unpledged and if something big actually happens they could switch allegiances; but if a significant number of uncommitted were to pick a side quickly (as Harry Reid and Howard Dean want them to do) it would definitely accelerate the process and up the pressure on the candidates to end this race.

But in case you have never closed your eyes to imagine the sweetly insane delirium that a brokered convention could be, do read Lawrence O'Donnell's piece in NYmag imagining Denver's "psycho-political thriller." Here is the beginning to give you a sense of where things could be heading if the nomination is thrown to the convention floor:

Fat man: Yeah ... Harold, can I call you ba-- ... Uh-huh ... I still haven't deci-- ... This really isn't a good time for-- ... Please. I have to-- ... I just-- ... I need-- ... (Desperate to get back to sex, gives up.) Okay ... Yes, I'm saying yes ... No, you can't announce it yet ... I'm giving you my word ... I've got to hang up now ... Okay. (Hangs up.) Hooker (looking up from his work): Are you a superdelegate?

CUT TO:
Harold Ickes hanging up the phone in his hotel suite, the Clinton delegate-counting center.

Ickes: Hey, I just got the lieutenant governor of--
Howard Wolfson: Have you seen Gore? (Grabs a remote, flips on CNN's live coverage of Al Gore arriving at Denver airport.)
Ickes (shocked): Holy shit!
Wolfson: He's lost, what, 30 pounds?
Ickes (still can't believe his eyes): He looks like ...
Wolfson: A fucking candidate!

That's right, Al Gore tries to impose himself as a back-up (Is it that unlikely an idea?). We sall soon see if we will assist to Gore's "march across the convention floor that gets him mobbed by worshipful delegates shaking his hand and getting their pictures taken with him" while "Dean rushes the convention to a third ballot before Gore can build up momentum. Hillary and Barack go to the floor and desperately work the delegates during the roll call of the states."

 
 

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 04/13/2008

It looks like more SD's will move in the period between april 22 and the may 6 elections in Indiana and NC. At this point he is closing the gap in Pa. particularly in the 16 counties around Philadelphia that Rendell won when he ran against Casey for the Governorship . if Obama can cut into the base of voters who supported Casey against Rendell, he has a shot at winning in PA.

He will continue his campaign and have competitive contests in every state left to participate in their primaries. In this manner, he can exercise his electoral operations for the general elections.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 AM on 04/10/2008

I'm afraid Hil is going to show up at the convention like Carrie on prom night.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 AM on 04/09/2008

Hey, hey.... heeeeey....

I like bashing Hillary as much as the next guy (as long as the next "guy" isn't a middle aged white female democratic voter, then I like baching her much more) ;-) but let's keep McCain in focus here.

McCain sucks. He sucks more than Sucky McSuckington, winner of the 1998 Suckburg County Suck-off in Sucktastic, Wyoming.

Whichever candidate wins, steals, takes, or however gets the Democratic nomination, we need to support that candidate and keep the GOP out of the White House. There are too many critical issues to the health of our nation at stake: Iraq, the Economy, rolling back Bush's tax cuts, two or more Supreme Court Justice appointments, rebuilding our infrastructure... the list goes on and on. What's more, these are not one or two term issues, they're things that will impact our grandchildren and generations beyond.

So, I would ask we all keep in mind that even if the nominee isn't your candidate, or my candidate... go home, cry it out for a couple of days, and then come back and fight to keep John McCain from winning!

Thank you. I now return you to your Barillary Clintama bashing already in progress.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 AM on 04/09/2008

With regard to McCain: KEATING FIVE, MCCAIN GOT $112,000, COST TAXPAYERS $3.4 BILLION, 9 FREE DREAM TRIPS CORRUPTION!" (Ahhh feels good when I get that out!)

You're absolutely right Joe. Regardless of which Democratic candidate we end up with, it is absolutely imperative and urgent to keep McCain out of office. We can certainly unite on that. (At least those of us intelligent enough to recognize the danger he represents.)

Ok, ok, call me Pollyanna if you must!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 04/09/2008

When I was younger I believed in Santa Claus. Absolutely, positively, knew it had to be true. I argued with my classmates in 1st grade that he was real, shouted them down until I cried and they let it go. I felt that I had won some great moral victory. I went home, described it to my parents and they told me he wasn't real. Cried some more and got over it. The pain lessens over time.

Just a story I thought might help the HRC supporters.

P.S. to the writer of the piece the scene in Denver is gonna be a heck of a lot uglier than what you and Lawrence O'Donnell seem to think it is if they try to overturn the actual winner, especially to the detriment of young, first-time voters during an unpopular war. HRC lived through 1968, she remembers what that's like. Not a good idea.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 AM on 04/09/2008

Obama is not the actual winner and cannot acquire the necessary number of delegates. And if his supporters are true to their word Ted Kennedy and JOhn Kerry will vote for Ms. Clinton since that is the will of the people of their state.
It is irresponsible to make silly, pointless threats, as you have done. It is a disservice to Obama and to the political process.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 PM on 04/10/2008

HILLAR BASHING LOGS OFF ON HUFFPOST

WTF DEPT: Is it me or have all the HRC rants dried up?

Where Is the Hate? It's quiter than Jones Town after a refreshing beverage around here. Did HRC not deliver today? Surely she lied about SOMETHING!

Survival Plan: Make stuff up. That always worked before!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 AM on 04/09/2008

She still leads in Super delegates even though she Trails in everything else so can't count her out just yet.

Carol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 PM on 04/08/2008

Yes we can... count. She's losing. I know you ladies don't like hearing it but it's true. Donate all you want to her, vote all you want for her, but sooner or later you are going to realize that Obama may have an issue, but Hillary is paying for extra luggage every city she flies to to carry around all her scandals in.

It's not about her being a woman. It's about the fact that if you need to throw kitchen sinks at people just to prove your policy is similar to theirs then you might not be a great person to lead the most powerful country in the world, for the time being anyway.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 AM on 04/09/2008

But her SuperD lead isn't enough to make a difference if she doesn't win big in PA.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 AM on 04/09/2008

I believe in Hillary. She's a fighter and a surviver. Go Hillary!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 PM on 04/08/2008

Yeah, woohoo, go hillary, fight, survive and drag the party down with you so we can have a real party for progressives! You go girl!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 AM on 04/09/2008

Hmmmmmmmmmm Just maybe Hillary should take up boxing and challenge Mike Tyson. I'm sure she would feel quite at home there! She could even race bait and guess what, black folk would not even protest. Then they could have a debate on Fox News and even win the debate. Then she could accuse Tyson of jumping on her because she was a woman, and the world would agree. Heck I'd even vote for her in that race.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 AM on 04/09/2008

You're absolutely right, she will survive this loss just fine. She is a serious fighter, she's the best self-proclaimed fighter I have ever seen. I mean look how she fought for her medical plan in 1994. That must have taken some real guts to be offered a compromise and told Congress to go fuck themselves because it was all or nothing. The American people should get down and kiss her ass for protecting them from any form of better medical care. Good think she fought so hard to keep winning people over for it by keeping generally silent on it for 12 years. Cleaver tactic if you ask me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 AM on 04/09/2008

this geek knows it all--you little Clinton hater take your lies elsewhere--who would talk honestly to you--what a bottom feeder!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 PM on 04/08/2008

That didn't make any sense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 AM on 04/09/2008


Bubba, Northeast
I am simply amazed by the number of Hillary supportes who blame Obama supporters for everything bad that happens in her campaign. Do you really think Hillary is effected by what we blog on about? You must face the truth. Hillary has been "out run" in the management of this campaign. She simply made too many assumptions about her electability. She really thought she was going to wrap things up by Feb. 5th and did not plan for anything else being true. Is that Sen. Obama fault? You cannot blame him for "thinking, planning and executing a great campaign. Be reasonable! You may not like all the gloating done by people who are supporting the one who appears to be the winner..by don't let that cause you to slip into bias hate of a legitimate Democratic winner....which appears to be Barack Obama

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:45 PM on 04/08/2008

The only thing I really "blame" the Obama campaign for is playing the race card. Just about any campaign tactic that works can be seen as fair game I suppose, but characterizing the Clintons as racists was dirty and divisive on their part. I'll vote for Obama anyway, but I'm disappointed in him over that. Even if he wasn't behind the tactic, he should have reined it in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 PM on 04/08/2008

you mean like when Clinton plays the gender card every other day? Or Gerry does and doesn't even apologize!!! Wow you must live in the same bubble Bushies do

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 AM on 04/09/2008

You are making the argument that if one person commits murder that justifies murder by someone else. A stupid and silly argument. I do not agree with your notion that the Clinton campaign has played the gender card, but even if it did that would not justify a bad act by Obama. Your logic is flawed and it seems you would be the sort to have voted for, and supported, W.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 AM on 04/12/2008

When did Obama characterize the Clintons as racist? I missed that. Please explain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 AM on 04/09/2008

Are you truly that ignorant of the campaign?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 PM on 04/10/2008

Joe
One thing seems to be very clear in politics...the minute you try to calm a situation down the more media folks tend to make things far worst than it was in the first place. I find that is usually true even on the blog sites. I must say I was both happy and suprised that no one ripped me a new one for this post suggesting that we simply be reasonable about both candidates. I just feel like shouting WE ARE DEMOCRATS...Lets support the winning Dem and take back the WH. Good talking to you Joe and I am glad that you are ready to support Obama if he wins the nomination. Dems 08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 04/08/2008

Why must one be the judge and the jury, when the race card is flung at ya? Why must anyone be BLAMED for anything? This says volumes about folks who are so quick to blame others. The race and sex cards have come from the doubters. Many doubted Obama to be anything but an honest person who is very smart brilliant and ready and prepared now and on day one to become President. Gen Pratraeus turned red after being grilled by this next Presabout the condition of Iraq, today. Super Delegates have been watching Obama, they know who deserves this nominee. Obama has EARNED it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 PM on 04/08/2008

OH, please! Have you noticed all the crazy ranting about "misogynist" treatment of Clinton? Nobody on the Obama campaign has tried to make this about gender (or race either), yet anybody who doesn't support Hillary is "anti-women".

Give me a break with the race card crap. The first race baiting actually came from the Clinton camp (think about Bill's SC comment as one example).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 PM on 04/08/2008

If outspending an opponent 4-1 represents some kind of victory, that victory is one built on delusional desires.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:28 PM on 04/08/2008

Oh, that meanie, Obama! How dare he raise more money than the clinton campaign's years old war chest! And the NERVE of him spending all of that money he raised from over a million small donors...who does he think he is??? Why couldn't he just lend his campaign $5 million like Hillary, for god's sake?

Poor Hillary and poor allesandro! It's just not fair, I tell you...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 PM on 04/08/2008

The notion that the support for his candidacy relies on delusional desires is frankly insulting. People of all types support Obama and for good reason. He is very intelligent, inclusive, open-minded, thoughtful, cognizant of what questions to ask and displayed much better judgment in predicting the consequences of the Iraq war than all but a few then current national politicians.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 PM on 04/08/2008

That's not what I said. I said to crow about a candidate who loses state primaries even after outspending his opponent 4-1 is not something to brag about. Yet many people who come on here celebrate a candidate who can raise a lot of money and still lose but possibly will win the nomination anyways. Democrats beware, HIllary Clinton has more "real" support among true democrats than Obama does.

Every "independent" vote and republican vote that Obama gains is neutralized by democrats who won't vote for Obama in the fall.

When Obama spoke of change, who knew it was the change in everybody's pocket.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 AM on 04/09/2008

No dude, you may think that's a minus, but it's a plus for me. That's why he's winning. Because he fights for every inch in contests where he is disadvantaged, and yet manages to win by landslides in contests where he is at an advantage. That's why he has the delegate lead. That's why he will win, and that's how he'll win the general election as well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 AM on 04/09/2008

First of all Alessandro......I wouldn't say she won Texas and Ohio,she stole them by lying at the last minute and throwing that kitchen sink . 2) Obama is outspending Hillary 4-1 because she's a lousy campaign manager. If she could afford it she would be spending just as much as he is.3) She's so full herself that she could not imagine that a young African American would beat her at her own game.She thought she had her ticket bought and paid for to get in the whitehouse,but she forgot one thing.........the American people are the ones deciding,not her. Even though she managed to trip Obama a couple of times with her nasty tactics and lies,most people saw through her and turned against her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 AM on 04/09/2008

stupid. suggesting that hellary has "more real support among true democrats," doesn't add up in the face of obama's lead in the polls, the popular vote, delegates, states won, etc. i mean, talk about delusional. and by the way, who gets to decide who the "real" dems are? you? that's a joke.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 AM on 04/09/2008

since Billary has an ex-president and daughter campaigning for them...and obv everybody is aware of the 'clinton' brand....of course obama has to spend more money...it's called marketing and brand building! and he's doing great!!! running a clean campaign against two power hungry megalomaniacs!

obama 08!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 PM on 04/08/2008

You're also ignoring the fact that Clinton came in with huge name recognition and as much as a 30 point lead over Obama nationwide...in spite of her money, her name, her political machine...he's winning.

By having a better message, and a far better run campaign.

Nothing delusional about the American people wanting even a SHOT at real change from the status quo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 PM on 04/08/2008

a shot in real change, as in the change in your pockets.

A Washington outsider outspending a Washington insider, sure, that makes sense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 AM on 04/09/2008

I'm sorry, but who was the one that made 100 million dollars in five years? Who was the one who had 5mill in cash ready to loan to her own campaign? You really can't differentiate between campaign money and personal money?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 AM on 04/09/2008

The fact he can outspend her is not delusional. As his donors (one million of them) have yet to max out, unlike her major donors, he can spend as he wishes. Please note, Clinton raised plenty of money.... She just wasted it trying to look Presidential,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:03 PM on 04/08/2008

He's brilliant, handsome and has a beautiful set of teeth (haaaaaaaaa) would not mind seeing him on TV anytime - who wants to see an old monitone, whiney LIAR -