Last week, I spoke at a conference organized by NYU's Center on Law and Security called "Privatizing Defense: Blackwater, Contractors, and American Security." Also present at the conference were Blackwater Worldwide vice president Martin Strong and a lawyer for Blackwater, David Hammond. At the conference, I confronted Strong on Blackwater's killing of 17 Iraqi civilians in Baghdad's Nisour Square on September 16, 2007. The day after our exchange, the Bush administration extended Blackwater's Iraq "security" contract for another year:
Democracy Now! videotaped the session and covered Blackwater's contract extension:
JEREMY SCAHILL, AUTHOR, BLACKWATER: My name is Jeremy Scahill. I find it very telling that nowhere on this panel do we hear a voice talking about the Iraqi victims of these companies. I find it very interesting -- the way that Mr. Strong and Mr. [Doug] Brooks [president of the pro-industry International Peace Operations Association] talk about this, we could be at a banking convention.
The reality is that Blackwater has killed innocent civilians in Iraq. I'm not sure if you're aware of this, Mr. Strong, but the first victims in Nisour Square that day were a 20-year-old medical student and his mother, not al-Qaeda operatives, not Iraqi insurgents. A nine-year-old boy named Ali was shot in the skull; his brains splattered in his [father's] hands. Your operatives were on the scene that day. They opened fire on these individuals.
And if you don't want to take the word of the witnesses, what about the military that investigated it on the spot that day and found that all seventeen of the Iraqis killed by your men were killed as a result of unprovoked and unjustified gunfire? This was the military investigation. They also found that there was excessive use of force that potentially violated the rules governing contractors in Iraq. When the FBI findings were released in part to the New York Times, they found that 14 of the 17 were killed as a result of unjustified and unprovoked gunfire.
My question to you is, how many innocent Iraqis has your company killed? And what consequences have your men faced for those actions?
MODERATOR: Well, that's about -- you answered -- speak as you want to speak
in response, sorry.
MARTIN STRONG, BLACKWATER VICE PRESIDENT: Well, I think the third panel is about accountability, if you want to re-ask that question at that point. I'm not a lawyer. I don't know how much time you spent in Iraq or in combat, but I spent 20 years and did 36 combat missions, and I spent nine months in Iraq. And it's a very difficult place. And I think the FBI, who has not issued their investigative report, irrespective of the New York Times or any other newspaper saying that they think they know what's going on, the FBI is going to complete an official investigation, not one done by the seat of the pants. And at that time, we're going to find out exactly what they found out. We have not, as a company, had access to that information, nor did we conduct our own little investigation so I could respond to your question directly. We have no idea what happened there by going back and forensically looking at it. We're awaiting the government's investigation.
[I then responded to Blackwater's Strong later in the day (Strong was sitting in front of me)]
JEREMY SCAHILL: I tried to raise this question with Mr. Strong during his panel, and he chose to ignore the key point that I was raising. And that was the following, that you can dismiss all you want, Mr. Strong, the testimony of the Iraqi witnesses and survivors, like the lawyer who was shot four times in his back as he fled your gunmen; you can dismiss the testimony of a father who held his son's dying body, brain splattered all over him, returning the next day to pick up pieces of his skull to bury in Najaf; you can dismiss the words of Dr. Jawad, whose 20-year-old medical student son was killed, [Jawad's] wife, alongside [him]; but you can't dismiss Lieutenant Colonel Mike Tarsa's investigation of the shooting by your men that day. They concluded, contrary to the statements of your company, that there was no enemy activity involved. They labeled the killings a criminal event. Lieutenant Colonel Mike Tarsa's men said that they found all seventeen of the Iraqis killed that day were killed as a result of unjustified and unprovoked fire by the Blackwater operatives.
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Jeremy prefers to wave 'bloody shirts' than actually discuss addressing the issues related to contractors. In fact quite a bit is happening on these issues. Not shown is the audience yelling at Jeremy to be quiet so they could hear one of his fellow panelists. He has his shtick and the book is selling well, so why branch out into reality?
In fact a number of folks in Congress have been addressing the accountability issue including Obama and Rep. Price of NC (although Jeremy has been critical of them too; always easier and safer be the critic than the cure).
I was actually at this event and I do not know what Mr. Brooks is talking about. You can even see the back of my head in the first portion of the video (on the right in what looks like the 2nd row). The only person that actually spoke out during Mr. Scahill's question was Georgette Mosbacher. Are you referring to the final panel at the end of the conference with David Hammond, Nir Rosen and Paul Verkuil? Because I didn't hear anyone in the audience tell Mr Scahill to be quiet. Hell he got a round of applause.
And no one ever actually answered his question. It is an important one. Does anyone actually know how many innocent civilians have been killed? And what steps does a private security contractor take once an innocent civilian has been killed during a mission? Is there any effort towards reconciliation? There should be some actions taken to try to evaluate and prevent future events. How can we ever expect to accomplish a counterinsurgency campaign if we do not address the problem of killing innocent civilians? And what kind of human beings would we be if we did not feel terrible for every innocent person hurt by this war? Yes it is a war but it is one that will not end anytime soon if we continually make more enemies.
HA! The President of the IPOA [or what should be known as the Criminal Mercenary Contractors Association] is here to play lackey in defense of Blackwater!
Well sir, there are probably a number of GOP trolls who will drop by to lick your boots, but you should be aware that the predominant view of you and the companies you represent is that of professional criminal opportunist.
IMO, Jeremy Scahill is far closer to being an objectively principled journalist than you are to being the president of a reputable [and non-criminal] trade organization.
I read the transcript of your interview on the PBS program Frontline, and I can't see why anyone would take your spiel seriously; the most charitable label I could give you would be Criminal Contractor Spin Doctor.
three responses, Jeremy, and one of them braindead. But the report on torture that came out four days ago got about as much attention. OH well. Somebody better think of something, quick, that will capture the attention of the average american Idol viewer, or GoodbyeKitty may be more right than they know!
Well I'll say that Ambassador Crocker gave 'ol Prime Minister Miliki the stiff middle finger by extending Blackwater's contract before flying off to Washington. The puppet was getting just a little too full of himself and had to be slapped back into his place.
What about Condi Rice??? Isn't she Secretary of State and ultimately the "decider" when it comes to Blackwater and their contracts??? Why isn't her feet being held to the fire?
I think the main problem is this: accountability. The media and others do not direct their attention (and sometimes venom) at the appropriate public figure. If Condi signed off on the contracts even though Blackwater has committed myriad different crimes (murder, rape, fraud, corruption, etc.), then why isn't she being questioned by the media or Congress???
Accountability??? Sir, you are now dealing with BushCo, and subsequently are placing yourself in harm's way by questioning the all-encompassing power of the BushCo Executive Branch.
All questions concerning the accountability of BushCo are prohibited, as all operations directed by the Executive Branch are in keeping with mandates to maintain the security and safety of US citizens, and therefore are protected by the State Secrets Act.
Individuals who attempt to degrade security and safety operations will be identified as enemy combatants [regardless of citizenship status], and immediately incarcerated at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, indefinitely.
The first rule of Project Mayhem is that you do not ask questions....
OUr citizens in New Orleans had a problem with Blackwater also when they were put in charge of them.
"Our" citizens couldn't believe what they were doing and the dictatorial demands and actions by this criminal mob , and they couldn't believed they were still in this country.
Trouble is that our military-industrial complex controlled news media did no reporting on these issues and as far as that goes any issues pertaining to the criminal and war crimes by this administration...
Are you serious? That was an absurd comment. We ALL have an axe to grind with Blackwater. When the day comes when Blackwater is deployed in your subdivision, I hope for your sake you can find your axe buried somewhere amid the junk in your garage. You might just need a weapon
The world has an axe to grind with Bl;ackwater and the government that uses them instead of American soldiers. They get a huge amount of pa and use the training they received while in the American Army. It is truly obscene. Blackwater answers to no man. Neither does Bush.
Don't be fooled many of their people are the old South Afrian White Soldiers you saw beating and shooting blacks on T.V. , These mercenaries are all over the middle east training so called security details but most they train killers.
additionally many are CIA trained counter insurgency specialists (read that as death squad commandos) from a cross section of Central and South America. Many have worked for the Narco-terrorists and are truly soulless and evil killing machines.
Having spent three years in RSA during apartheid I can say you are absolutely correct.
The biggest fear of having that crew of criminals grow as large as they have under the current conditions is where do they go when Iraq is "stable"? I recognize that "stable" may be optimistic but those mercenaries need to kill to be happy. Put them in our society and we're in serious trouble.
Note, they've already be deployed to Katrina with any number of bad results.
Posted April 8, 2008 | 01:01 PM (EST)