Clinton Blasts Media Double Standard

ABC News   |  Teddy Davis   |   April 8, 2008 07:52 PM


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Asked about press accusations that the only way she can win is if she's "willing to win ugly," Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., told NPR's "All Things Considered" on Tuesday that she has faced "something of a double standard" throughout her presidential bid.

"Senator, I want you to react to something that I keep hearing among voters, and increasingly among people who cover the campaign -- both those who are reporters and those who speak about the campaign on television, on radio -- the statement that the only way that Hillary Clinton can win is if she's willing to win ugly," NPR's Michele Norris told Clinton.

"When you hear that," Norris continued, "what does that mean to you? How do you react to that?"

"Well, I don't know what it means because there is no way for Senator Obama to win unless he also obtains a significant number of superdelegates," said Clinton. "I understand that there has been, throughout this campaign, something of a double standard. I accept it; I live with it."

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""Well, I don't know what it means because there is no way for Senator Obama to win unless he also obtains a significant number of superdelegates,"

I have to lay some of the blame at the feet of amazingly inept reporters. The proper interviewer response was:

"Ma'am, to clarify, the standard wisdom is that when you are behind, you must risk negative campaigning to break the status quo. I am not referring to the outcome of the race, but the methodology. Now, let me ask again..."

What DO they teach in journalism school these days?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 PM on 04/09/2008

This is a ridiculous argument.

Who else could be unable to catch up in pledged delegates as well as losing 11 straight contests and still be in the race?

Another good rebuttal to the idea posted on TPM

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/04/i-think-sen-clinton-has-offici.php

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 PM on 04/09/2008

A double standard such as having your stooges, Bill, Ferraro, Carville,
and today's deplorable Lanny Davis WSJ article spout racist venom???? Double standard indeed. Playing the victim is wearing thin.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 04/09/2008

What racist venom? You are the perfect example of what Davis said. He questioned how Wright's statements are going to play with Reagan Democrats. Obama himself "disinvited" Wright to his official candidacy announcement. Who said so? Wright did. It's a legitimate discussion that people like you want to shut down with charges of racism.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 04/09/2008

Well, the MSM isn't making much of the fact that Hillary isn't paying her bills. People in California and Iowa are upset, but the MSM isn't botherring us about it.

Anyway, she still has love from Fox, Rush, and Scaife. (Did I miss something or did they tell us why they her so terrribly much now after working so hard in the past to convince us that she was a bit viler than Satan?)

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 04/09/2008

you hear that all of you who claim she's being treated unfairly - how come they don't point out she owes money everywhere?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 04/09/2008


Moronic comparison.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 04/09/2008

"Well, I don't know what it means"

I think that's a tiny tiny sniper fire tale.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:58 PM on 04/09/2008

dear hillary,

I thought you told us you were tough. So quit your bitchin'

ESAD hrc

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 PM on 04/09/2008

ooh, poor me, it's so hard....

If you didn't act like a flaming asshole hilally, the media wouldn't call you a flaming asshole

it's so hard.......

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 PM on 04/09/2008

IS she referring to the double standard against Obama?
No one has a problem with her being a woman it's her personality that we dont like.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 04/09/2008

ditto

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 04/09/2008

It means having surrogates running around raising the spectre of 'race.' Such as

Affirmative action & Unqualified (Inferior intellgence) (Gerradine Ferraro)
Reverend Wright (Angry ungrateful black man) (Howard Wolfson)
Drug User (Bill Shaheen)
Unpatriotic (Bill Clinton)
Unfit to be Commander and Chief like me, Hillary, and the Republican guy! (Hillary)
Obama unelectable! (All of them)

"It means when I get done with him, I'll so damage him in they eyes of the public until there isn't a superdelegate who is willing to pick his dead carcass out of the gutter.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 PM on 04/09/2008

You left out quite a few - Bob Kerry and the madrasas for one

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 PM on 04/09/2008

Old Medal Winner Bob!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:43 PM on 04/09/2008

she is unbelievable. One minute she's talking about letting all the votes be counted and having do-over is MI and FL for fear of "disenfranchisement" but her entire HOPE for a victory at this point is to have the superdeleages overturn the results of the primaries. She says that Obama needs the superdelegates too. True, he needs them to push him over the top (he's ahead by 170 delegates!), but she needs them to OVERTURN the will of the people and the results of the entire primary season. Her hypocrisy knows no bounds.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 PM on 04/09/2008

QUOTE: "Well, I don't know what it means because there is no way for Senator Obama to win unless he also obtains a significant number of superdelegates," said Clinton. "I understand that there has been, throughout this campaign, something of a double standard. I accept it; I live with it."
Well he does have a significant number of superdelegates Hillary (getting closer and closer all the time!), and it wasn't so long ago you were trumpeting the voices of the people! Only when its convenient I guess. According to DemConWatch you still can't take the delegate lead even with Florida and Michigan seated with the current results (which are completely invalid as you very well know! - otherwise you wouldn't be kicking up a fuss about the Chinese Communist Party, who are also the only people on the ticket).
And quit whining about a 'double standard'. That's baloney. You claim you've been fully vetted and yet you moan when anyone actually attempts to da any.
You are losing, that's why there's a double standard.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 PM on 04/09/2008

Did anyone see her asking George bush to skip the Olympics opening day. I mean seriously if she was a Prez, that all you would do? You might as well go there and address the issue to show how disgusted you are. Instead of not going to opening ceremony, like China cares if Bush didnt appear

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 PM on 04/09/2008

Media Bias! Where? What out rage! I mean look at this exchange!

Russert to Clinton:
Ms Clinton we have combed through your public records dating back 35 years and found out that you said on the evening of July 22, 1926 between 7:30 and 7:45 you were walking out to you car, but we checked millions of newspapers some even written by crack pots and found there were no cars in that area at that time. AHA! What do you say about that!

Russert to Obama:
You are new but I have an important question about character. If you were a tree, what kind of tree would it be?

For those that need it, this is a joke and it does not mean that Obama is dumb or there is a deeply hidden bias against any group large or small nor commentary on anything that can be linked by less than six degrees of separation. Just havin fun!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 AM on 04/09/2008

LOL! It's funny because it's TRUE!

;)

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 04/09/2008

Sorry, this doesn't wash. Obama didn't claim to dodge bullets in Tuzla, open gates in Macedonia, or negotiate peace treaties in Northern Ireland when he was doing nothing of the sort. Hillary gets scrutinized because she tells tall tales and lies. Obama gets a pass because what he says usually checks out.

That's the way life works ntmessage!!!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 PM on 04/09/2008

Well, my post was a joke.

But since you brought it up, Obama did say his parents met in Selma and that he was a Constitutional Law Professor, and that he did not ever hear Disaster Pastor"s negative words in 20 years, etc etc well you get the idea dont you?

Any distinction between Obama and Clinton on character is without a difference.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 04/10/2008

Funny - but, oddly, your example of Hillary's response in this satire is that Hillary responded with facts that aren't true - and couldn't be true - a fabrication. Some of the best humor has a recognition of truth in it. You prove a point.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 PM on 04/09/2008

Well, my post was a joke.

If you read it, it was an impossible question to answer. Come On. Lighten up!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 PM on 04/10/2008

A dose of doublespeak about double standards.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 AM on 04/09/2008

She makes women everywhere look bad.

Would you like some cheese with than whine Hillary?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 04/09/2008

good god hillary...get some help.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 PM on 04/09/2008

Like Bill Clinton said Hillary, get out your saddle and knee pads Hillary - stop whining - remember you're tough - come up with some more sniper fire stories -

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 AM on 04/09/2008

ENOUGH HILLARY, its not going to work this time. You can't fuck up your entire campaign and blame the media for reporting it. GO AWAY, you are a disgrace to real feminists everywhere.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 AM on 04/09/2008

Just more typical whining and complaining from Hillary. Everything's so unfair! I love her newest complaint about being outspent on advertising in PA. But what about the fact that she's got two surrogates -- Bill and Chelsea -- out there campaigning for her full time. You don't hear Obama complaining about that.
I will never, ever, ever understand why anyone would support HRC. I'm not insulting those who do, I really just don't understand.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 04/09/2008

It's true that both need superdelegates for the nomination, but Obama is ahead in terms of pledged delegates, the most important part of the entire contest. Why is it a double standard to assume that the person with the most pledged delegates also receive the most supers? Why is it a double-standard to ask how the second place finisher can win without 'playing ugly'? Obama also leads in other factors that do not determine nomination but DO get attention from party leaders: Number of campaign participants, number of donors, amount of money raised, popular vote (he leads even if you count the unfair votes in MI and FL!), and states won.

She may claim a double-standard in how the scandals are being reported, but can she point out comparable lies from Obama that mirror her lies about Bosnia? She tried to ride the NAFTA-gate wave, but Canada smacked that one down as a lie. She tried on the Wright debacle, but the faithful of this country don't want religion and politics mixed, and that was worsened by Obama's exceptional response with a call to rise above the fray in his speech on race. With the hypocrisy of her campaign in full swing from Ickes pushing the idea that states are being disenfranchised (even though he voted to take away their delegates) and Penn still working with her campaign despite getting paid to play both sides of the issue, it's blatantly obvious which side has earned its rep.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 AM on 04/09/2008

She leads in major states. She also is very close to him in popular vote. She's put together a winning coalition of voters that he can't buy. He's outspent her 4 to 1 and still can't win.

Those are ALSO factors.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 PM on 04/09/2008

A winning coalition of voters? In which of the dozens of states she's lost did that coalition emerge? Close in a vote means you're second. He's outspent her because he's running rings around her in fundraising. She's in debt and can't pay her bills. She's spent tens of thousands on donuts and luxury suites for her overpaid staff. She counted on the fat cats to win it for her and they've maxed out. She was the annointed winner until she was challenged. She's run one of the worst campaigns with the most assets going in of any candidate who's not an incumbent President. She's been caught in bald faced lies and over the top embellishments.

Those are ALSO factors.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:02 PM on 04/09/2008

He's ahead by between 700,000 and 800,000 votes, which is considerably more than Gore led Bush in 2000.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 04/09/2008

Senator Clinton lost Illinois. Which means she will not win it in the general election and everyone knows that no Democrat can win the whitehouse without winning Illinois. Therefore Senator Clinton cannot beat Senator McCain in the general election.

That is the MOST BESTEST factor.


Why let Ann have all the fun?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 PM on 04/09/2008

True he is out spending her but with the money he is raising he could use it for toilet paper

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 04/09/2008

hillary is a corporate whore. that is also a factor

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 PM on 04/09/2008


In what universe? The "major states" argument is a joke because it implies Obama can't win state that are traditionally Democratic. Despite her winning those states, it wasn't by much. Unlike Obama's victories which tend to be in the double digits. A winning coalition of voters? Where? Texas? Ohio? Thank Rush Limbaugh's ditto heads. He's out spent her 4-1 and is winning, and where he's not, he's gaining. She can't beat a Republican in the national as she seems to rally Republicans against her. She's trailing in popular votes despite Obama only winning in those "insignificant small states." And Obama holds states won by a 2-1 margin and seems to have appeal among moderate Republicans, liberal Democrats and independents that Hillary doesn't. Those are the factors we need to consider.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 PM on 04/09/2008

I belong to those who are happy we still have a choice in the Democratic Party. The idea that it is better that the last 10 primaries have no choice is superior to them having a choice makes no sense to me. I wish for a better, more sane system to select a presidential candidate, but this is so much better than Kerry winning because he won in Iowa and New Hampshire so everything fell into place and 95% of Democrats really had no say in the process.

Thanks Hillary. Stay the course. There is more involvement, more interest, more activism, and more people registering as Democrats than in the past. It's a good thing.

Moreover, despite the hype about negative campaigning, both Clinton and Obama have conducted intelligent campaigns with real content, real proposals, real agendas oriented toward the welfare of the nation and the people.

This campaign on the Democratic side is a high point, imho.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 AM on 04/09/2008