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Petraeus Shifts Sharply On Basra, Aligns With White House Spin

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Perhaps sensing that his testimony on Tuesday was undermining the official White House version of events in Iraq, Gen. David Petraeus today offered a dramatically different interpretation of the recent violent unrest in Basra.

In this morning's hearings before the House Armed Services Committee, Chairman Ike Skelton asked Petraeus to give him some sort of sign that the nascent Iraqi government was within sight of being some sort of functioning body. Petraeus made an effort to assure Skelton that this was the case, and cited Prime Minister Maliki's actions in Basra as a clear sign:

PETRAEUS: First of all, Mr. Chairman I would point out that they want to do that as much as we do. Indeed, they are under -- they put themselves under enormous personal pressure, and collective pressure, from various political elements in Iraq, to increasingly exercise their sovereignty. In fact that's exactly what Prime Minister Maliki did, of course, when he decided that as the Constitutional Commander in Chief of the armed forces of Iraq to deploy forces on short notice to Basra...

Ahh, yes. Springtime in Basra. The recent armed conflicts there, paced by the powerful Sadrist faction, are the rock in the road that Petraeus and Crocker have had to get around since these hearings began, as the ill-timed flare-ups have provided ample evidence that the "surge" strategy may not be working as either a security measure or a means to sectarian reconciliation. The Bush administration has little choice but to spin every dire crisis as a sign of evident success, so Petraeus offers an argument that Maliki's response to Basra was evidence that the government is essentially functional. Petraeus would later return to this theme:

PETRAEUS: So again this is a fairly courageous decision, a fairly sudden decision, is one came after some months of preparing a more deliberate approach, and is still very much playing out, it is far too soon to say that of Basra has succeeded or has failed either. It is safe to say that Basra is going to continue for months actually and it is a tough nut to crack but the fact is that the Prime Minister has taken it on and his forces are grappling with that particular issue.

So, while Basra remains a challenge, the good news is that the Maliki government acted "courageously" after "deliberate" preparations. All of which sounds hopeful, or, at least it would, were it not for the fact that Petraeus spent the whole day suggesting precisely the opposite.

From his opening testimony:

PETRAEUS: The Iraqi security forces have continued to develop since September, and we have transferred responsibilities to Iraqi forces as their capabilities and the conditions on the ground have permitted. Currently, as this chart shows, half of Iraq's 18 provinces are under provincial Iraqi control. Many of these provinces, not just the successful ones in the Kurdish regional government area but also a number of southern provinces, have done well.

Challenges have emerged in some other, including of course Basra.

Also, from his opening testimony:

PETRAEUS: While improved Iraqi security forces are not yet ready to defend Iraq or maintain security throughout the country on their own, recent operations in Basra highlight improvements in the ability of the Iraqi security forces to deploy substantial numbers of units, supplies and replacements on very short notice. They certainly could not have deployed a division's worth of army and police units on such short notice a year ago.


On the other hand, the recent operations also underscored the considerable work still to be done in the area of logistics, force enablers, staff development, and command and control.

Petraeus, questioned by Senator Levin:

LEVIN: Next question: General, an April 3rd article in the New York Times said that before the Iraqi government's assault on the Mahdi Army in Basra, you counseled Prime Minister Maliki, quote, "We made a lot of gains in the past six to nine months that you'll be putting at risk." The article also states that you advised him not to rush into a fight without carefully sizing up the situation and making adequate preparations. Now, did he follow your advice?


PETRAEUS: Sir, he laid out a plan that would, in fact, incorporate that advice. And...

LEVIN: All right. He followed your advice, then.

PETRAEUS: And once the forces got into Basra, they ended up going into action more quickly than was anticipated.

LEVIN: Would you say that Maliki followed your advice?

PETRAEUS: I would not. No, sir.

LEVIN: In your judgment, was the Iraqi government operation in Basra properly and carefully planned? And were the preparations adequate? In your professional judgment, was the Iraqi government operation in Basra properly and carefully planned and were the preparations adequate?

PETRAEUS: Sir, there's no question but that it could have been better planned and that the preparations could have been better. And we have already done initial after-action reviews on that in fact, there and also in Baghdad.

LEVIN: I understand the after -- the report that came after. But I wonder if we could get a direct answer to your question -- to my question. Could you give me a direct answer? In your judgment, was the Iraqi government operation in Basra properly and carefully planned and were the preparations adequate? Could you give me a direct answer?

PETRAEUS: Sir, the answer is, again, it could have been much better planned. It was not adequately planned or prepared.

Questioned by Senator Susan Collins:

COLLINS: Success always seems to be just around the corner when it comes to training and equipping of Iraqi forces. Yet when put to the test, the Iraqi forces have performed very unevenly, and it's very disturbing to me to read the press reports that more than a thousand Iraqi soldiers refused to fight, fled or abandoned their positions during the battle in Basra.


Ultimately, as the ambassador has said this morning, the fate of Iraq is up to the Iraqi people. My concern is, as long as we continue to take the lead in combat operations rather than transitioning to more limited missions, the Iraqis are never going to step up to the plate and fight for their country.

So my question to you is, why should American troops continue to take the lead in combat operations at this point, after years of training and equipping the Iraqi forces, after spending tens of billions of dollars training and equipping of Iraqi forces?

PETRAEUS: Well, first of all, Senator, in Basra we did not take the lead. Basra is a province that is under Iraqi control. Sovereign Iraqi prime minister made a decision to confront a challenge. It was not just a political challenge. This is militia, gang, criminals who were threatening the population. And then deployed forces very rapidly; frankly, more rapidly than we thought they could deploy. Over the course of a week deployed the combat elements of a division.

And then they moved very rapidly into combat operations. Again, too rapidly, most likely, without setting all the proper conditions and so forth.

So, to review: this morning, the Basra operation is sold as the clearest sign that Representative Skelton's "training wheels" are coming off, even though one day earlier, the same mission led Petraeus to admit that the "hand" of the United States had to "remain on the bicycle seat." With this discrepancy, it's hard to say how far along the Iraqis are on their bike riding. One thing is certain, though: in General Petraeus, the Bush administration clearly have a highly effective derailleur.


 
 

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It's little wonder Petraeus is a four star general. He obviously is good at sucking up and in so doing, getting promoted. Where is this man's backbone? Have you forgotten, General, you are SUPPOSED to be looking after the welfare of your troops. Four and five tours of duty? A war that's worse off now than in the beginning? Instead of supporting a withdrawal from Iraq and ending the bloodshed, Petraeus continues to take his marching orders from a grossly incompetent president and administration. He should be indicted for war crimes along with Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rumsfeld, Rice, Bremer and Wolfowitz.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 AM on 04/10/2008

Why are we talking to Petraeus about policy in Iraq, this is a civilian decision not a military responsibility, the military only carries out the orders of the civilians, but the cowardly Bush likes to hide behind the uniform of a General and use him for cover.

Give Petraeus orders to begin the evacuation of Iraq and he will do it like a good soldier, give him orders to keep fighting until the last Iraqi is dead and he will do that also if requested, basically he is merely a mechanical robot who follows orders.

To send Petraeus before the Congress to testify about the progress in Iraq is an act of cowardice and nonsensical stupidity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 AM on 04/10/2008

How about a pause in military activity itself?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:13 AM on 04/10/2008

General Betrayus is the latest General who will agree to anything and everything King Pinocchio tells him to do. Like Hitler before him, King Pinocchio has rid hisself of every independent thinking commanding general.. And replaced them with Yes Men who have sucked their way to the top!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 AM on 04/10/2008

You can't just blame the Republicans.. The Democrats are just as corrupt and let the Republicans set and run the agenda because they're just too timid and look like they'll jump if the Republicans say boo.
I see they go along with repeating the Bushisms.. They refuse to call the surge an escalation. Stuff like that
So I blame the likes of Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer for the deliberate inaction of the Democrats. It makes one sick to see the Democrats call the Republicans.. My esteeemed colleague... I respectfully disagree with my good friend. Why are they continuously sucking up to the Republicans??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 AM on 04/10/2008

They refuse to call the surge "permanent" - even though it is, even though it was always intended to be a "permanent" surge

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 PM on 04/10/2008

He knows that if he crosses Bush, he'll end up like Powell.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 PM on 04/09/2008

Sounds like the general turned the corner.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 PM on 04/09/2008

When Petraeus leaves the Army he will be joining the Corps 'D Ballet in the Bolshoi. He's already passed his audition with all the toe dancing he's had to do in front of Congress for the past two days.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 PM on 04/09/2008

Gen. Petraeus could tiptoe through the DMZ; no wonder they're talking about him running against Hillary for New York Senator in '12!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 PM on 04/09/2008

Chickenhawks say: Better to fight "THEM" over there , than here at home....

Reality: "THEY" would rather fight us over there, than here at home.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:37 PM on 04/09/2008

They're pretty easy to spot, I believe we can stop them at the border. If not, I'm sure we can hold DC as we have a defense budget larger than the economy of central asia.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 04/09/2008

That comment made my day...hem, er, evening! Thanks

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 04/09/2008

Have you ever met an egotistical advancement orientated individual who lacks morals, ethics or fiber? You have just been introduced to General Betray Us.

If you deplore what I quoted then ask yourself, If you attacked your neighbors house causing death and destruction yet failed to acknowledge the mistake for the mistake it was, while proving the lie, would you still occupy and attack your neighbors house? Quite a simple question for most but the world will always have satanic neo cons ruling over them for the idea of power, corruption and cronyism since having followers is a must to continue the rule.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 04/09/2008

Only thing is that would be better said of his boss, our presidente, but certainly Petraeus was a great choice to stand in at the stake before its burned.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 PM on 04/09/2008

Nuremburg Principle VI (b) War Crimes:
"Violations of the laws or customs of war which include, but are not limited to, murder, ill-treatment or deportation of slave labor or for any other purpose of the civilian population of or in occupied territory; murder or ill-treatment of prisoners of war or persons on the Seas, killing of hostages, plunder of public or private property, wanton destruction of cities, towns, or villages, or devastation not justified by military necessity."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 PM on 04/09/2008

Betray-US.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 PM on 04/09/2008

The good General is nothing but a Bush ass kisser. He has betrayed his oath to the constituion and commited treason.

Dead US troops = Halliburton Profits = Money in Dick Cheney's bloody criminal pockets.

Petraeus' job is to be a good little girl and make sure the killing continues.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:47 PM on 04/09/2008

Last year, General Petraeus did not know if our operations in Iraq was making us safer. The next day he changed his testimony. Now he puts the best possible spin on Basra where 1,000 Iraqi soldiers walked off the battlefield. He has become a mouthpiece for administration policy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:32 PM on 04/09/2008

Gen. Petraeus is Bush/Cheney's broken Magic 8-Ball; you ask him a question, but he points to their same illogical, dead-end conclusion every time!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:47 PM on 04/09/2008

How did the general in charge of the policy become responsibility for evaluating his own policy? Is he going to say his policy failed? Probably not. Congress needs to hear testimony from others.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 AM on 04/10/2008

That's why Ambassador Crocker was there, to answer the policy questions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 AM on 04/10/2008

It is unprecedented political ambition from a military commander.
He did betray us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 PM on 04/09/2008

Even Admiral Fallon, who was the former Centcom commander, said Petraeus was too much of a yes-man, or words to that effect, for the administration.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 AM on 04/10/2008

This is very troubling but what is more troubling is the Petraeus, is positioned with White House honors while Fallon has been retired and gagged. This is political - it is all political. It has been fashioned in such a way as to just buy time until the next president takes office.

They are habitual gamblers. http://binx101.wordpress.com/2008/04/09/white-house-gambling/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 04/09/2008

They want to claim the Democrats lost Iraq, rather than take responsibility for the mess they made. This is simply a holding action for the GOP right now. This will be Rush Limbaugh's theme for the rest of his career, "Everything was great in Iraq until the Democrats took over".

As we all know there are some ignoramuses who will believe anything which sounds tough, patriotic and authoritarian. They will then parrot it daily until they ejaculate and have to change pants before their mother finds out what they've been doing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 PM on 04/09/2008

Indeed you are correct. What is most troubling though, is that while I see those here posing as Republicans - the Republicans I know (and I know plenty) want us out of Iraq and just short of calling themselves Democrats - agree with just about everything you just wrote.

Who then are those that come here pronouncing they are republicans?
I believe they are strictly paid to do this - and use a number of different handles on blogs. It is impossible to conceive of anyone so blind - that they may not be worth saving.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 PM on 04/09/2008

The NeoCons are not true Conservatives. The Republicans have been hijacked by a bunch of fanatics similar to the way Christianity has been hijacked by the Religious Right.

These are the lunatic fringe. If you try to "save" them you'll merely be bitten. The best analogy would be a dog you loved who gets rabies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 PM on 04/09/2008


I propose in 2009, that we require a re-educational "tour of duty"

for the trolls who have contributed to the Fascist cabal, BushCo.

If we allow the Bush crime family to steal the White House again,

They'd likely require the same for those who speak truth to power.

They claim they want to serve & only the showers are dangerous.

Let them clean the land at day and study the constitution at night.

One year for each one they whored out their keyboard for fascism.

ST2P.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 PM on 04/09/2008

TO: IRAQ HEARINGS GENERAL DAVID PETRAEUS' REPORT OF SURGE April 9, 2008


It is sad to see the numerous comments that violence has gone down in Iraq when it has not. There are still reports on TV of the violence continuing,Shiite Temple killings, mass graves,kidnappings,Beheadings, and MIA beheadings.

Too many lives have been lost to false security and fase hopes. The latest of the 8 Jewish students in Jerusalem where security was never put in place as it should have been.

Coalitions,Large Armies, and Superior weapons help a nation win against enemies according to history and just plain good smarts and common sense. We must continue to build Nuclear weapons and maintain our superior position militarily against all enemies. as President George W. Bush wants to do. And maybe even start up a creative council to discuss how to win a War as Pres. Bush wanted to do originally when the terrible 9/11 NY attack happened. Did he ever start this council? Negotiations do work as in 1648 Westphalia Treaty where after more than two years of negotiations the Thirty Years' War was ended. A provision in it stated,"The Right to worship God in one's own way ended Religious Wars among German states."

Negatively , why has a Christian nation as America abandoned its own American people to support a nation as Iraq that does not even believe in a Christian God?


Eva Hart A Christian I was in Army from 62-70 670 Eddy St. Sfc 94109

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 04/09/2008

Bullshit. America never was and never should be a "christian" nation.

Adolf Hitler served in the German Army during WWI and won a medal for bravery. Didn't make him a good german citizen, he had stupid and dangerous beliefs.

And you......Deep down, no difference.

Every nation that labeled itself a religious nation specific to one non-existent entity or the other sooner or later spends a generation or two in religious civil warfare.

Ignoring what ever defects Iraq had or has as a nation, you'd scorn their citizens becase their beliefs don't meet wth your approval? How typically "christian' of you.

And just understand this, christian, the Flying Spaghetti Monster is gonna get cha! And flay the hide off'a ya with his holy strands of durum wheat semolina.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 AM on 04/10/2008

FYI, the God of Jews, Chistians and Moslems IS THE SAME GOD. [The word Allah is Arabic for God.] The Jewish bible contains the "Old Testament" which is the name the Christians gave it to distinguish it from the "New Testament." The Koran has namy of the same stories as the Old Testament. The three montheistic religions have more in common than most people think.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:38 PM on 04/09/2008

TO: Jeff 1958 April 9, 2008

I am referring to a God who sent us Jesus to Save souls. The Jewish people do not believe Jesus has come yet and the Moslems just think of Jesus as a Great Prophet, but not as Great as Allah. There are other differences as well as similarities. The Three Great Religions are similar, but have differences too of which I am referring too. The Moslems have a code that states,"They are against murder,cruelties against slaves,orphans, and widows. Against idolatry,alcohol,alcohol. These are similarities, but I am referring to differences as believing in Jesus as Divine Saviour, can paint man,paintings,animals, and Repentance for sins and forgiveness. of others taught by Jesus.

Eva Hart A Christian April 9, 2008

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 PM on 04/09/2008

To the best of my understanding, the jews , Early Christians ( till the roman empror insisted on Romanizing christianity ( and Jesus became divine, in the likeness of Zeus ( now do you know who I am ? ) , and Muslims belive him to be a prophet. The muslims ( sunnis ) also believe, that he was raised before he died and is the only living prophet. They belive, he is the saviour who will come down to earth and save humanity. ( The shia's are waiting for their no 12 Imam, who by the way , Khomeni , it is said, believed he was, ) and the Jews are waitng for their last messiah ( which Muhammad claimed to be, and jews refused to recognize him as the one ) . All of this sounds pretty interrelated to me. The origin in Israel, Abraham the father, and the two sons of Abraham, one fathering the Jews and the other Arabs. Both muslims and jews still sacrifice the penile foreskin , while Christians do it to be hygienic. The Christians and muslims fight over the Divinity of Christ, a saviour to both.
A prophet and messenger ,spreading the gospel ,who according to muslims, got crucified after he was raised, for God loved him so much, he could not bear for him to suffer anymore and raised him while still alive, and Divine to the Christians, God and Son.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 AM on 04/10/2008

Jason, you are picking the poop out of the flypaper. Nothing more.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:02 PM on 04/09/2008

If Petraeus will not now pledge -- even in principle -- to support the policy of the President of the future, he should resign NOW.

Some nerve! What a four-star politician!

Do we have another MacArthur in the making?

The Founding Fathers were clear on separating the power to raise an army (vested with Congress) from the power that comes from commanding one (vested with the President, and certainly NOT any one general).

Note further that the Founding Fathers did NOT envision a standing army. Their primary model was a "well-ordered militia."

Petraeus has taken an oath to uphold the Constitution, not set the entire Iraq policy, let alone to prop up Duhbya.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 PM on 04/09/2008