Punished for the Truth

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Posted April 12, 2008 | 10:33 AM (EST)



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Here are the controversial comments Barack Obama uttered in San Francisco. "You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them...And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

Inartful. That is the only fair criticism of this analysis. Let's ask the voters in Pennsylvania these questions. If the 'distracting' issues of guns, gay marriage and abortion were all resolved to their liking, would their economic lives change? How about immigration? If all illegal aliens were to disappear, would those rust belt jobs return? For so many years, such issues have been used to corral blue collar workers into a party and political philosophy that serves the elites in this country. When someone speaks the truth and acknowledges that this sector of our society has been royally deceived, that issues they rally around have little to do with their ultimate welfare, it is time to banish such a person from the campaign trail.

Heaven forbid we should suggest that bitterness might exist in this country of such optimism or that this emotion might be an appropriate and effective reaction to current circumstances. Hillary Clinton countered with this statement. "Well, that is not my experience," she said. "As I travel around Pennsylvania I meet people who are resilient, optimistic, positive...If we start acting like Americans," she said, "and role up our sleeves, we can make sure that America's best years are ahead of us." McCain's spokesman chimed in. "It shows an elitism and condescension towards hardworking Americans that is nothing short of breathtaking...It is hard to imagine someone running for president who is more out of touch with average Americans."

Are you kidding me? Pulling the curtain back on a very effective political trick, the old bait and switch, is far from elitist. Americans are working harder than ever. Two job families are the norm. Yet the poor and middle class are falling further behind. What is breathtakingly condescending is watching two candidates stroke this group with platitudes about their being tough and resilient. What exactly has that gotten them? Nada. The real stereotype Clinton and McCain are playing on is that blue collar workers are easily manipulated and will 'stay down' if you just tell them they are hardworking, patriotic, value-driven Americans.

It is time for these people to get mad. Illusion may make us feel better, but it simply serves to keep us tilting at the wrong windmills. It is time to embrace the truth and turn that anger, yes bitterness, on those who created such conditions. The alternative is to pat ourselves on the back for our optimism and 'can-do' attitudes while politicians in Washington laugh at such naivite and continue on their destructive course.

 
 

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I am mad. I am furious.

Catherine, I think you've hit on something important. I'm reminded of the "speak bitterness" meetings the Maoists arranged for village women in China who'd been subjected for millennia. (And, no, don't go targeting me for being a communist - I'm speaking of the technique.) Maybe we all have to begin to speak our anger, to speak our bitterness, more forthrightly.

I'm mad as hell and I'm not taking it anymore!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 PM on 04/14/2008

Obama channels the voice of working class citizens. McCain and ClinBushton channels the voice of big business and special interest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 PM on 04/14/2008

Aren't we ALL bitter about what has happened to this country since 2000? And if you are from the rust belt, it started happening during Reagan and continued through Clinton and really took off during Bu$hco.

What is wrong with being bitter? It is the least negative emotion one can feel if one is paying attention to the state of our country. We need MORE bitterness, not less. We need more activism, not less. We need to pay more attention, not less. We need politicians who are willing to address the state of the country and not pretend that things are fine when they are fine only for the super wealthy. How many people here are among the super wealthy? Wake up people, and vote for your best interests.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 PM on 04/14/2008

Everything that you (and Obama) said was true. However, the problem is not in what he said or even how he said it, but rather to whom he was saying it. Explaining the poor and working class to wealthy white donors like some kind of anthropologist is not the way to win the presidency. However, unlike others who argue that getting elected means developing the ability to lie with a straight face, I believe that the problem lies in the fact that the Democratic party has largely deserted the poor and working class of every race. It's not that poor and working class people can't take the truth, it is rather that they distrust the motives of those who come purporting to tell it. So what Obama needs to be doing is working harder to make a compact with the working class -- that in exchange for their votes, he will bust his ass (working as hard as he is now working for the nomination) to bring their issues to the table and fight like hell to make sure that they are getting a fair shake. Because the hard poliitical truths are just like the hard personal ones, we are more likely to listen and respond positively when we believe that the speaker is motivated only by a desire to help us make our lives better rather than by selfish interest in pimping our flaws or bad fortune for personal gain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 04/14/2008

Giving a voice to the collective concerns of citizens to those in power is advocating for working class people. His method is a way individuals who share common concerns can become empowered. Thus far, D.C. has turned a deaf hear to the people's collective recommendations and suggested solutions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 PM on 04/14/2008

It is interesting that it is ok to insult the people of San Francisco when defending the good people of Pennsylvania. Senator Clinton keeps reminding people that Senator Obama made his comments in San Francisco. She is implying that he was in the hotbed of elitism. Senator Clinton has reaped great rewards in money and support from the people of San Francisco, and it would be hard to find a supporter of her's there that disagrees with Senator Obama's statement. I'm sure she swigs chardonnay in Marin county.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 PM on 04/14/2008

Unfortunately, I think Clinton and her organization have forgotten how to wage a campaign without insulting someone especially those who have not voted for her including Blacks, small staters, caucus goers, latte drinkers, etc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 PM on 04/14/2008

Ms Crier.
Great blog.
I completely agree.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:05 PM on 04/14/2008

The Clintons like the Bush's are trying to have a political dynasty. We have seen the failures of the Bush administration, and the toadyism of a future Clinton Pressident. Obama is our best choice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 AM on 04/14/2008

Charlton Heston WAS CLINGING TO HIS GUNS:

He praised the 4.3 million members of the NRA for their overwhelming success in electing pro-gun candidates in the US elections in November 2000.

The group says 86% of the 10,000 candidates it endorsed won.

"Freedom-loving Americans begged us to make the difference in the most closely contested election in the nation's history," said Heston.

"Liberty was on the line, and God bless you, you who made the difference," he said.

Heston added: "You are of the same lineage as the farmers who stood at Concord Bridge" at the start of the American Revolution.

Given a musket from that war, he held it above his head and said, "I have only five words for you: FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/1341315.stm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 04/14/2008

Catherine thank you for the best post I have read in a very long time.

I'm bitter, mad, etc. at what has happened to my country. Yes MY country. I'm certainly not going to buy into the two millionares in this race, Hillary and McCain, to agree that Obama is an elitetist. The only candidate to work with the poor and down-trodden is Obama. McCain married a beer heiress and the Clinton's have become multi-millionaires in the the 7 years after their presidency. We deserve to get just more of the same from our government if we buy into this bull-crap!

If we can't take the truth when it is spoken then we deserve to get nothing and more of the same.

Obama 2008

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 AM on 04/14/2008

Best post I've seen on this subject! I couldn' t agree more!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 PM on 04/14/2008

God help us if we get a President who actually tells the truth!!

America can't handle the Truth--At least not the
KKKonservatives/GOP/Clinton wing of the Democratic Party.

The Truth hurts, Mommy!

Lies feel so much better!

Oh, and how about another pitcher of Kool-Aid??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 04/14/2008

The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable. ---H. L. Mencken

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:13 PM on 04/14/2008

Thank you for stating the obvious. I listen w/ mouth agape at these two candidates one w/ eight homes, the other a millionaire many times over claim that an inter-racial man raised by a single teen mother who managed to achieve what would seem impossible, is an elitist and out of touch.
Once again laughing at the very people they claim to be fighting for as if non-wealth equals ignorance!
They are despicable and my faith in the people who, like me, struggle daily will not be so easily fooled is absolute.

Shots of Crown Royal w/ the locals do not make you JUST PLAIN FOLKS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 AM on 04/14/2008

inter-racial man raised by a single teen mother who managed to achieve what would seem impossible,
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Or how about a poor boy from Arkansas raised by a single mother?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 04/14/2008

Neither does "bowling" with them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 AM on 04/14/2008

I do not think Barack Obama adequately explained his statements about Pennsylvanians and his assertion that they are "bitter" and that this causes them to "cling to guns...religion...antipathy...anti-immigrant sentiment." He talked ONLY about the part of this as it relates to religion saying that difficult times cause people to cling to religion and completely left out the parts of what he said about Pennsylvanians in which he said they "cling to guns," "antipathy," and "anti-immigrant sentiment," and Campbell Brown, the CNN moderator allowed him to get by with this. I think it was absurd.

What Barack Obama said about Pennsylvanians was offensive and demonstrated what I believe are his elitist views with regard to those struggling to survive in this country under the oppression of the current administration. And, Mr. Obama seems to have no apologies because he seemed to be trying to apologize yesterday and then he later went back to saying he was right in his statements.

I think it's terrible! I think he discounts the very real problems people in this country are having to deal with.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 04/14/2008

2Nurselady:
Read his whole speech, or find out what it was by someone who was present - David Coleman on this site was there. Truth is not found in sound bites, or in an opponent's responses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 PM on 04/15/2008

Thank god for elitism. Thank god for superiority. We need elitists. I had surgery recently, and you can bet your bottom dollar (and mine!), I wanted an ELITE surgeon. I'm getting my bathroom fixed and I want an ELITE plumber. I want my grandkids to have ELITE teachers. What's this horror of elitism? What a dang bunch of ninnies we are!

I'm reminded of the crab-bucket phenomenon (used in sociology). When one crab begins to crawl out of the bucket, the others will pull it back down.

Well, now let's just all pull our elite crabs down, huh? Instead of us all trying to get out of the bucket? Why not strive for the best instead of competing to be the lowest?

I am NOT talking about faux-elitists (the criminals like Bush and Cheney, etc.). I am speaking of superior human beings. And, of course, they exist. But we'd all rather just whine, huh?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 PM on 04/14/2008

But how is it an "elitist view" to tell people that they should focus on issues that are important in their struggle to survive, rather than be distracted by irrelevant "God, Guns, and Gays" issues?

And isn't the President of the United States supposed to the most elite person in the country? We've seen what a disaster can befall us when we elect a man who is "just plain folks".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 PM on 04/14/2008

An elitist view is one that allows a person to believe that he or she is above the rest or better than those he considers to be beneath him and I think Barack Obama has often exhibited this kind of attitude along with some arrogance as well.

As for "telling people [to] focus on issues that are important in their struggle to survive," this does not seem to be what Barack Obama was doing at all. He seemed to be spewing putdowns against Pennsylvanians and midwesterners. In particular, he said that Pennsylvanians are "bitter" and that this causes them to "cling to guns...religion...antipathy...anti-immigant sentiment."

What people object to is his characterization of hardworking, decent people as people who would turn to guns and crime or a feeling of power because they are exercising their 2nd Amendment rights because they feel "bitter" and that the only reason they have religion in their lives is because they are "bitter" when the truth is far from this. People have religion in their lives because they love and have faith in God, not because they are "bitter."

Barack Obama's statements were offensive to people in Pennsylvania and Indiana and across the country. And, then he seemed to try to apoligize for his putdowns, but then turned around later and stood by his original statements.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 04/14/2008

It seems to me that the charge of "elitism" is the first refuge of those who suffer from inferiority complexes.

It's too bad you were offended by Obama's remarks. But can you really claim to speak for all of the people of Pennsylvania and Indiana, much less the whole country? And I guess nobody cares about offending San Francisco liberals. They're just beneath contempt. So much for "elitism".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 04/14/2008

Apparently you read this mornings edition of "Hillary Clinton's Talking Points Memo" I prefer to think for myself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 04/14/2008

I don't agree with Obama's assumption that a desperate economy fosters homophobia, a penchant for guns and a faith beyond reason. These things would still exist, and feverishly so, if the economy were booming, just as it did during Bill Clinton's years. After all, Don't Ask, Don't Tell and The Defense of Marriage Act happened during prosperous times.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 AM on 04/14/2008

But they all transform with increasing levels of consciousness. The religion of one stage is not like the religion of the cognitive stage that transcends it. Homophobia does disappear when the circle of who we identify with expands (egocentric - ethnocentric - worldcentric) with each transcending level of consciousness. Appreciation for markmenship and quality guns is qualitatively different than "You'll have to pry my gun out of my cold, dead fingers!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 PM on 04/14/2008

You may be right, Steamboater, but a desperate economy ought to compell people to put these issues aside and focus on what's really important.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 PM on 04/14/2008

The real truth is that during the Clinton years as well as past Rebublican administrations, the lower middle class have gotten the raw end of the deal. And it is indisputible that certain people namely Republicans have tried to smokescreen their savagaing of the middle class with "moral" issues. Racism for one example is the perfect way to keep the working class divided. Instead of us against them it's us against us. Religion is another perfect example. Under the guise of religion, churches are pursuing a specific political agenda that is unrelated to the basic tenets of Christianity, Peace , understanding, forgiveness and charity. The Republican administrations have offerred none of the above. And will continue to scare their followers into voting against the baby killers, the faithless, and those that "want to take our guns awa" when in fact it is all illusion. Congratulations to Barak Obama for actually saying things that are true regardless of what people want to hear or how iit will be "spun"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 AM on 04/14/2008

Another PATHETIC ATTEMPT BY OBAMANATION to portray his comments as "truthful" and "misunderstood"

F-ING LAME......just own what he said.

And calling HRC elitist because she has money and was First Lady is rediculous...that is NOT what makes one elitist.....calling people religious gun-nuts and using THAT as an excuse as to why Obama CANT win their votes IS elitism.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 AM on 04/14/2008

If you think you're better than others because you have more money than them, then that's elitism in a negative sense.

But if they really are stupid, then how is it wrong to actually be better than them?

And aren't small-town Americans as a group elitist in the way they look down on the rest of the world?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 PM on 04/14/2008

Is McCain and Clinton are not the elite of the US....then who is?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 AM on 04/14/2008

Northeast, you really need to go and plant some Tree's.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 AM on 04/14/2008

Two clips to educate you. Charlie Rose sat on these comments for 4 years. Obviously he did not think there was anything derogatory in them. Blinded by your bias or having problem with comprehension?

Same comments by two intellectuals. Not elitist, not condescending, just factual.

Tell me who is lame? Can you be honest?

Obama:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6oGF3cyHE7M&feature=bz301

Clinton:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYi_qNWdjgw&eurl

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 AM on 04/14/2008

it is true - as a supporter, I am proud that he said it - as someone who has famliy in rural US that fall into this category, I'm glad someone finally is talking about it

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 AM on 04/14/2008

"Punished for Truth" ought to be the headline for Geraldine Ferraro's biography.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 AM on 04/14/2008

biography or bigotry?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 AM on 04/14/2008

You wrote, "It is time to embrace the truth and turn that anger, yes bitterness, on those who created such conditions."

Is this the truth where our imbalanced 79% service sector economy was created by labor costs that made manufacturing products too expensive for the global market place. Do you suggest we tax foreign imports or provide taxpayer funded subsidies in order to bolster the manufacturing sector?

If we were able to fund or encourage funding of new manufacturing facilities with just "reasonable" wages and benefits - would Americans actually take the jobs - or think such wages "unreasonable" and remain on the dole? Would we, in effect, be creating jobs for immigrants?

I'd like to see this discussed as well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 AM on 04/14/2008

In America, unlike authoritarian countries, people are free to be moral or not to be moral. Because we don't have a nanny state, its up to individual believers to teach the immorality of having an abortion and persuade their chidren to make the right decision. Because we don't have a nanny state, it's up to gun owners to teach gun safety and make sure that their children respect firearms. Because we don't have a nanny state its up to the individual to choose how and when he or she worships.

When politicians manipulate conservative voters they are actually using a very anti-american strategy to drive wedges between people who should live in a society where persuasion and public square of ideas i