Bitterness, Bowling & Beer (And Guns)

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Huffington Post   |  Rachel Sklar   |   April 14, 2008 05:20 PM


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Well! It's been a big weekend for wondering if Barack Obama cares enough about working-class voters or if he's one of those Liberal elites who enjoys a nice merlot while windsurfing. I have been amazed to see how the report from HuffPo's own Mayhill Fowler from that San Francisco fundraiser has triggered the latest campaign imbroglio, and a "crisis" for the Obama campaign that have had commentators muttering darkly that this is a big problem for Obama. You all watch the Sunday morning shows (and if you don't, catch up here), and it was topic A yesterday, as well as across the cable networks on a fairly unrelenting basis (well, on MSNBC when it wasn't running a documentary involving blood spatters on the walls. Beware carelessly leaving the TV on after Tim Russert). Speaking of Tim Russert, Meet The Press dove enthusiastically into this issue yesterday (no HuffPo credit? C'mon, Tim! Let it go!) and which then made its way on to NBC Nightly News. Today, the controversy is still going strong, with Obama and Clinton sniping at each other (almost as good as real sniper fire!) and the debate has made for yet another day's worth of cable news clips.

But here's the thing: Why is it such a big deal that Obama said people who had been screwed economically were bitter? Wouldn't you be? Hell, I've been bitter about a lot less. That's a red-herring, for the media and for Hillary. That's not what hit such a chord. It was the statement that those bitter, screwed Pennsylvanians responded by "clinging" to their guns, and to a lesser extent their religions and prejudices. Geesh. It's obvious why that makes Obama look elitist and it has nothing to do with his poor upbringing or the fact that he was a legacy at Harvard: It dismisses American Second Amendment-revering gun culture as nothing more than a security blanket .That's it, really — but that's a lot. It's the reason that Democrats stay the hell away from gun control. Fact is, guns are sorta big in this country — and in the last two elections, roughly 60% of gun owners voted for George W. Bush. Fact is, Democrats are vulnerable to being depicted as effete elite Liberals who can't relate to the regular folk, which is how a decorated military man like John Kerry was somehow cast as a rich, snooty wimp against a chickenhawk who never quite made it to active duty. That's why a slip-up like this can be deadly — especially when magnified a zillionfold by the media echo chamber.

But it can also be deadly for Hillary Clinton. You know, I rather liked the image of Hillary doing shots in Indiana (Crown Royal, no less). I also liked the image of Obama bowling. Why not? Frankly, it looked like they were both having fun. But Hillary has a problem with overkill, and let's just say she's emptying her magazine into this one when a single slug would do. Judging from the amount of furious debate this has triggered — and the fact that, incredibly, these comments actually have legs enough to dominate the news cycle four days later — the gaffe was real and so, too, was the chord it struck, but it's disingenuous for Clinton not to acknowledge that gee, some Pennsylvanians might just have legitimate reactions to their sucky economic situation. It's amazing to me that she hasn't learned by now that whenever she joins in on cirticism of Obama, it boomerangs back to her.

Even more disingenuous: The whole duck-hunting thing. Does she not remember Mitt Romney, varmint hunter? Or Mike Huckabee, slayer of Iowan pheasants? Just say you support the Second Amendment and be done with it, okay? Because the rest comes dangerously close to pandering (and no, that's not the same as that time you totally blew the head off a panda).

There's an irony here, and it's coming up fast in the form of the one-year anniversary of the Virginia Tech shootings. That falls on Wednesday, April 16th — two months and two days after the last horrific school shooting at NIU, and never mind the spate of similiar shootings at schools and malls and churches around then, too. I noted back in February that there had been nary a whisper about gun control reviving as an issue, despite the number of shootings. Not a whisper from the media, either (indeed, ABC's Charles Gibson broadcast from Illinois two nights in Feb back to back - one on NIU and one tailing Obama in his home state - and never made the connection.) Nothing like an episode like this to underscore why the Dems are so afraid of wading into Second-Amendment issues — and this is going to make them just that much more, um, gun-shy.

Upshot: This is an issue, yes, but a pretty darn overblown one at this point, and — for a change — has little to do with the candidates' plans, positions or policies. Those, in the long run, are what's important here — and, I would note, what Barack Obama was talking about in the first place. Is it important that he respect the average American, from big cities to small towns? Of course — but there is more to determining that than just one misbegotten turn of phrase. Like, say, how he bowls.

Related:
Mayhill Fowler: Obama: No Surprise That Hard-Pressed Pennsylvanians Turn Bitter [OTB]
Clinton, Obama Surrogates Bring 'Bitter' Battle Battering To Morning Shows [HuffPolitics]
TV Soundoff: Sunday Talking Heads [HuffPolitics]
From Bowling To Orange Juice [War Room]

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*If it's not called a magazine, well then, that thing that holds the bullets.

 
 

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ah Robert,
you come from one of those urban communities plagued by...and it therefor must be the fault of a thing? I live in one of those really rural places and we apparently have a bunch of defective guns since they don't kill us or shoot us. We are armed to the teeth and somehow don't manage to kill each other. Maybe it is your failed culture. Your failed culture that encourages such behavior rather than one which works a bit better. Then you'd have to start admitting that something is seriously wrong with .... YOU.

A funny thing about drunk driving, it causes horrid carnage and yet you don't do anything about the cars everybody seems to have. What, you blame the drivers and the drink to excess culture?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 PM on 04/16/2008

Excuse those of us whose urban communities are plagued by weapons fire and dead children to be too busy grieving over their loss than to grieve over the gun rights of a minority of persons which might be lost through more efficient gun control.

That is a truth which is, yes, bitter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 PM on 04/16/2008

i'd prefer to share a cold beer with a president who understands that while reaching for your gun is not something you do lightly or as your first response, but it IS sometimes the only viable option, and when you draw, you'd damn well better be prepared to empty the clip...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 04/16/2008

Here's the second part of my "small town America" post....

Don't you see, Rachel? The GOPukes and their media stooges HAVE to try to prop up the false "Capra-Movie-Norman-Rockwell painting"Leave-It-To-Beaver" "Andy Griffith Show" image of small town America! If they can't, if that house of cards falls apart for them, then they would have to admit that "small town America" has the same anxieties, the same flaws, the same prejudices, the same traits, good and bad, as anywhere else, including San Francisco.

I really feel strongly about this, which is why I've posted this thought on several blog strings. If the GOPukes can't maintain their propaganda image about "small town America" as a means to divide this country and to keep people voting against their economic interests, then they may be doomed to permanent minority status as a political party as people realize just how economically screwed we ALL have been due to the unnecessary distraction of the Culture Wars.

That's why there's so much criticism, Rachel. It's based on fear. Republican fear.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 04/16/2008

Another terrific post, Rachel. In fact, it's SUCH a terrific post, my response will have to be in two parts! :)

I'd like to take a shot at answering your question: "Why is it such a big deal that Obama said people who had been screwed economically were bitter?" Because Obama didn't just make that comment about the American people; he specifically made that comment about "small town" America. And, he said it in SAN FRANCISCO, to boot.

The false image of "small town America" is a truly sacred cow for the GOPukes and their useful stooges in the corporate media. It feeds their beast. So, any kind of commentary, much less constructive criticism, about "small town America", especially coming from a Democrat, must be attacked viciously and unfairly. It has to be distorted, taken out of context or flat-out lied about. And all of these tactics have been used to try to discredit Sen. Obama's comments.

To be continued...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 04/16/2008

The "media entertainment" is wrapped around corporate advertising, unfortunately this "mediatainment" sold us a "Tums" of a war in Iraq!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 PM on 04/16/2008

Nice post. The media echo chamber cannot believe that Obama's campaign hasn't been mortally wounded by Rev. Wright and the whole bitter/cling debate. They still can't admit that they have been wrong about almost everything this election season. If they were right tonight's debate would be between Hillary Clinton and Rudy Guiliani.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 PM on 04/16/2008

Wow. You "city folks" just don't understand that we in Hickville could be offended by being portrayed as gun toting bible thumping Mexican hating bigots. Now when the media pulls "hidden meanings" out of every Clinton word to call them racist, hell if doesn't even have to come from a Clinton, where was the media going, "Ahhh, come on! This is stupid. Why would anyone think that Bill Clinton (the first black president) is a racist? This is stupid and Obama should be ashamed of himself for playing the race card on them. This is hurting the Democratic party so Obama should drop out!" I never heard that? I wonder why when Obama says something that ACTUALLY offends people (without it having to be psychically pulled out of his "calculating" words) we are just suppose to let it go and blame Hillary for him saying it. The media is so fucking ridiculous its amazing. If it isn't something about black people, it just ain't worth covering! Obama attends a racist anti America anti Israel church for 20 years and one speech makes that go away? If the MSM isn't on Obama's payroll, then they damn sure should be.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 PM on 04/16/2008



Last Friday, Obama fed the media machine a sound bite that they have milked for five days with no immediate end in sight¦.Okay, so the talking heads are just doing their job¦..what a commentary on the state of public discourse and the game that politics is. Patraeous and Crocker testified last week but that wasn"t where the prime time ratings were, nor where the highly charged emotional issues that drive ratings and sadly, elections as well.

On the Sunday morning talk shows, only Bob Schieffer ignored the Hillary Bosnia, Obama elitist story and attempted to have some kind of meaningful discussion with Gates and Pelosi on the war.

The question of whether Obama peaked too early or whether his recent loss of momentum and the resulting pile on of pundits is going to ruin his candidacy has yet to be answered¦.but it is a pretty good bet that the politics of Willie Horton and the Swift Boat strategy is what is driving a desperate Clinton campaign and regardless of success or failure, the democrats are on the brink of blowing it again.

More than 1.5 billion dollars will be spent on this election before it is over....the media industrial complex is the winner as long as the process continues. As long as meaningless incidents and "insensitive statements" by any candidate are distilled into entertainment continue masquerading as news, thoughtful voters yearning for meaningful discussion of issues of real consequence are the losers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 PM on 04/16/2008

Rachel: how about we get together for some Crown Royal shots with draft beer chasers? We can toast to good ol' Toronto!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 AM on 04/16/2008

Great post Rachel!

Another interesting aspect is that the official NRA gun propaganda actually confirms what Obama has been saying. For them, the Second Amendment is the ultimate expression of a fundamental distrust of or government. In contrast to what Hillary and other panderers are claiming, many NRA members guns are not all about hunting for sports and such. It's about keeping an extra reserve for the day the government will take over our freedoms (and at this point the newsflash should be: it already did. And you guys voted for them).

Obama says guns are a sign of peopling having lost their trust in government. Sounds about right to me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 04/16/2008

Rachel, you are clearly a master pun-dit (and alliteration ace), but it saddens me to report that today's lead NY Times editorial entitled "Guns and Bitter" has clearly out-punned and out-gunned you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 04/16/2008

This media is more akin to Josef Goebbels than Edward R Murrow!

Molotov Cocktail

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 PM on 04/15/2008

"Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country"
-JFK

"We have nothing to fear but fear itself"
-FDR

"cling to guns, religion and anti-immigrant sentiment'
-Barack Obama

"my daughter punished by having a baby"
-Barack Obama

"Have you seen the price of arugula at Whole Foods"
-Barack Obama

Great moments in history.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 PM on 04/15/2008

"Yes We Can!"
-Barack Obama

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 AM on 04/16/2008

"Under the Bus, Grandma!"
-Barack Obama

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 PM on 04/16/2008

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They do CLING. Listen to 'em!!

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:25 PM on 04/15/2008

Obama supporters 'cling to hope, change and rhetoric to explain their bitterness'. There, that's the 'twooth'.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 PM on 04/15/2008

We now know that we live in a nation that can be completely taken over and redirected by an organized group of political insiders with an agenda. Given that fact, you are not ever going to get American citizens to give up their right to own guns. It isn't just fear of "outsiders" that keeps Americans close to the 2nd Amendment. It's mistrust for our so-called leaders. Bush has proven that there are times when the government ("revenuers" my hick family called them) cannot be trusted. So, no, the Democrats are not going to keep raising this issue. Because they are finally beginning to understand where mistrust of the government comes from, after seven years under the Bush Regime.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 04/15/2008

Anyone tell me this shouldn't be called bigotry. Obama said" antilpathy to people who aren't like them" The meaning to those that don't know is a strong dislike.Enough said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:30 PM on 04/15/2008

Hey, you finally got it. Now you know what blacks in America have been talking about all these years...just low-down bigotry.
You think Obama was doing a tit-for-tat. One thing, at least what was said about small town Americans wasn't mean and nasty. I've got no problem with clinging to God. I don't like guns and occasionally I get quite irritated with a store full of latino shoppers who can't speak english and hold up the line. Just my thoughts...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 PM on 04/15/2008

Right wingers get out the vote by ensuring the ballot includes something about homosexuals or immigrants or something about religion. People show up to vote against gay marriage, or against drivers licenses for immigrants, or in favor of posting the ten commandmants in a park, or some other wedge issue. Then they vote for the candidate who shows the proper contempt for homosexuals or muslims or immigrants or whatever.


The right wing does it over and over because it works. Obama was trying to articulate why it works.


Pointing out bigotry does not make you a bigot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 PM on 04/15/2008

funny, he never MENTIONED the republicans or the right wing...maybe he's having a difficult time with his 'articulation'...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 04/16/2008

The more one attempts to spin the Obama comments into bite-size nuggets, the more desperate the Obama-bots sound.

Consider: He made these remarks on the left coast, practically in sodom, he might as well have called the Pennsylvanians inbred, red-necks with no education, no common sense, and mentally challenged.

No, this time Obama's Teflon has failed him. Frankly, I agree with him, but it demonstrates how out of touch with a HUGE percentage of the electorate he is, and it also flies in the face of his alleged strong embrace of his faith.

He's coming undone and it's just that we are now learning about him and seeing him as as the naive, radical, far left-winger that can NEVER WIN the White House.

Thank you. All capped for the brain-impaired.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:24 PM on 04/15/2008

I agree with you Rachel. This is really the super super silly season. I think most of this is driven by the need of the talking heads on cable news to have something to talk about. Tuesday we will see if this was a big deal our not. I don't think the people of PA were put down by Obama's remarks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 04/15/2008

"I'm from Canada, by the way - and I can't vote"

Stay the hell out of our Politics. We have enough trouble with the Canadians already trying to insert their racist, yes, racist views into American politics. You are not a political reporter either. You critique media. Stick to that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 04/15/2008

Don't sugar-coat it, tell us how you really feel.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 PM on 04/15/2008

Fluff like this is what is wrong with most commentators, be it the traditional media or a blogger.

The gaffe was that he gave a long answer and two thirds of the way through spoke in short hand for wedge issues that are exploited to draw people's attention away from the economic crises in their lives caused by the government sell out of the middle class and working poor. Bread and circuses translated to the 21st century. But the truth would end all the money mongers ability to keep the masses attention away from the real problems so we get fluff.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 AM on 04/15/2008

Yes, the gaffe was real. And yes, I do think Hillary overshoots the mark at times.

But here's the deal to me. She may lie about a story by embellishing. The truth is that there were reports and concerns about snipers. That's been verified. It just didn't happen on that trip to her. That's also been verified.

That's a lot different from being a lie. Obama revealed himself in a big way this weekend. The attitude he expressed is starkly different from the one that roused the crowds.

To me, that's the problem of image campaigns. Unless the image truly reflects the person, it WILL blow up unless the campaign is short and sweet.

This long campaign finally vetted Obama. And 56% of Americans polled said they disagreed with him.

That is.......loss in the Fall election, and the Democrats must face this reality or, once again, lose.

They can be bitter about it, blame the "typical white person." But they will end up being bitter and saying President McCain, if we aren't smart here. This is the year for the Democrats, and we cannot afford to put forth a candidate who offends that many people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 AM on 04/15/2008

what has the obamanites freaked out is that their 'obamessiah' , in a friendly setting ,let his guard down and said what he REALLY thinks of the middle class-and SURPRISE, SURPRISE-the middel class isn't very fond of his attitude...the mask has slipped, if only a little...but keep adding 'little things' together, and the facade crumbles...this guy is starting to creep america out, bit by bit, day by day...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 PM on 04/16/2008

First you complain that we don't know enough about him and then suddenly we understand him completely. I don't think your being completely fair. How can you possible know what he truly meant? We can make assumptions as much as we want but that doesn't make us right. You need to look at the world form a point of view other then you own before you pass judgment on anyone else.

I bet many of those people who are offended wouldn't vote for him regardless of his race. Remember Clinton is viewed as Public Enemy Number 1 by the GOP. Do you really think that they want him to beat her. They want to face an opponent that is hated by man people on both sides of the fence.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 AM on 04/15/2008

So let me get this straight, if there is a bank robbed in my town today, and I went to a bank in my town today, I can later tell people I was there at the bank robbery and it won't be a lie- I'll just be embellishing, right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 AM on 04/15/2008

Not only is she beautiful, she's fair-minded as well. Rachel, thanks for restoring the faith I have in you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 AM on 04/15/2008

I have another question. When Senator Clinton made her statement about the sniper fire in Bosnia and it was revealed to be, shall we say, incorrect -- she said that she 'misspoke'. For the sake of argument, let's assume that she did misspeak. Why, then, is she, of all people, not giving Senator Obama the SAME consideration? That he phrased it badly? He 'misspoke'. Despite what we would LIKE to believe about our candidates, when all is said and done, they are human -- and they do and WILL make mistakes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 AM on 04/15/2008

But she mis-spoke one day and a week later she mis-spoke 3 times in one day! She blamed it on being over tired! but good grief if she thinks campagneing is to much for her to speak the trueth-------------------------How much mispeaking will she do when she's the President and all those long hours and those 3 oclock phone calls? Sniper Fire, Hospital Stories, Cambodia,Mark penn , whiskey shots with beer chasers, and duck hunting and man I'm just to tired to check out if what i'm saying is the trueth, and I don't care any how!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 AM on 04/15/2008

YOUNG GEORGE WASHINGTON: ""Father I cannot tell a lie. It was I who chopped down the cherry tree. I misspoke."
FATHER: "Son, you have spoken presidentially and some day you will be our first; for to lie is human but to misspeak is presidential."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 04/15/2008

Hey, Rachel:
If you truly understand that Obama's remarks were taken out of context, why not do a story using this evidence