1,300 Iraqi Troops, Police Dismissed

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SLOBODAN LEKIC | April 13, 2008 11:07 PM EST | AP

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A member of Iraqi security forces checks cars at a checkpoint securing road to the Shiite enclave of Sadr City, Baghdad, Sunday, April 13, 2008. On Saturday Iraqi authorities lifted a two-week ban on vehicle movement in Baghdad's Sadr City. (AP PhotoKarim Kadim)

BAGHDAD — Iraq's government moved Sunday to restore discipline within the ranks of the security forces, sacking more than 1,300 soldiers and policemen who deserted during recent fighting against Shiite militias in Basra.

At the same time, Iraq's Cabinet ratcheted up the pressure on anti-American Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr by approving draft legislation barring political parties with militias from participating in upcoming provincial elections.

Al-Sadr, who heads the country's biggest militia, the Mahdi Army, has been under intense pressure from Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, also a Shiite, to disband the Mahdi Army or face political isolation.

Al-Sadr's followers are eager to take part in the local elections because they believe they can take power away from rival Shiite parties in the vast, oil-rich Shiite heartland of southern Iraq.

And in a new move to stem the flow of money to armed groups, the government ordered a crackdown on militiamen controlling state-run and private gas stations, refineries and oil distribution centers.

It is believed that gas stations and distribution centers, especially in eastern Baghdad and some southern provinces, are covertly controlled by Shiite militiamen dominated by the Mahdi Army.

The failure of government forces to capture Basra despite superiority in numbers and firepower was an embarrassment to al-Maliki, who ordered the offensive and personally supervised it during the first week.

It also raised questions whether Iraq's mostly Shiite army and police can confront Shiite militias, including Iranian-backed "special groups," which the U.S. command now considers the greatest threat to Iraqi democracy with the diminishing influence of al-Qaida in Iraq.

National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley said Iran is very active in southern Iraq.

"So we have illegal militia in the southern part of the country that really are acting as criminal elements that are pressing the people down there and, in good measure, as we've seen, alienating the Iraqis from Iran," Hadley told "Fox News Sunday."

The Basra offensive _ which opened on March 25 _ quickly stalled amid strong resistance from the outnumbered militiamen, despite artillery and air support provided by U.S. and British forces.

During the attack more than 1,000 security troops _ including a full infantry battalion _ refused to fight or joined the militias, handing them weapons and vehicles.

U.S. officials have praised al-Maliki for the determination he showed in confronting the militias, but they have also said the Basra operation was hastily arranged and badly executed. Critics said it highlighted the Iraqi army's poor leadership and the low morale among its rank and file.

Washington maintains that as the Iraqi forces increase their capabilities, they will replace U.S. troops providing security in much of the country. But last week, Defense Secretary Robert Gates acknowledged that future U.S. troop withdrawals will go more slowly than had originally been hoped for.

Speaking to reporters in Basra, Interior Ministry spokesman Maj. Gen. Abdul-Karim Khalaf said the government had fired 421 policemen who have not returned to duty since fighting ended. They included 37 senior police officers ranging in rank from lieutenant colonel to brigadier general.

Khalaf said that 500 soldiers who have been absent without leave since the campaign ended on March 30 had also been dismissed and would be tried by military courts.

"Some of them were sympathetic with these lawbreakers, some refused to (go into) battle for political or national or sectarian or religious reasons," Khalaf said.

The majority of Iraqi soldiers and police are Shiites. Many of the government troops were said to have been reluctant to confront fellow Shiites in battle.

In Kut, a city 100 miles southeast of Baghdad that was also affected by the fighting, a further 400 policemen were also dismissed, said a senior police commander who asked not to be named because he is not authorized to speak to the media.

Although clashes in Basra largely petered out after al-Sadr's order on March 30 for his militiamen to stand down under a deal brokered in Iran, fighting in Baghdad has continued.

There have been daily gunbattles in Baghdad's main Shiite militia stronghold of Sadr City between militants and Iraqi and U.S. forces, which have used helicopters and unmanned drones to pound the insurgents from the air.

Fresh clashes were reported Sunday, and a salvo of rockets or mortar rounds struck the U.S.-protected Green Zone, which houses the U.S. and British embassies and much of Iraq's government in Baghdad. U.S. officials said no casualties were reported.

In Basra, security operations continued as government forces searched for illegal weapons.

Lt. Gen. Mohan al-Fireji, who commands government forces in the city, said the two-day operation had netted arms, roadside bombs and drugs.

Khalaf also said 28 criminals from Basra who were tried and been found guilty of multiple murders and abductions were executed in Baghdad on Sunday. They had been arrested before the upsurge in fighting in March and moved to the capital.

 
 

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- FatherWolf See Profile I'm a Fan of FatherWolf permalink

These 1,300 who deserted -- did we train them? If so, what does this fiasco say about our training efforts?

Were they part of the brave Iraqi forces who will let us stand down when they stand up?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 PM on 04/13/2008
- dr4Will See Profile I'm a Fan of dr4Will permalink

send obama over there--he runs just like the Iraq troops--scared and cowardly!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 PM on 04/13/2008
- ErikW65 See Profile I'm a Fan of ErikW65 permalink

Tell it to Admiral Fallon, General Odom, Colin Powell...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 PM on 04/13/2008
- momofsonofwar See Profile I'm a Fan of momofsonofwar permalink

If your really a dr. you should help out there also

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 04/13/2008
- pmag88 See Profile I'm a Fan of pmag88 permalink

The majority of these forces are comprised of people who come from local militia. How can you blame people who have loyalties to the local militia for not taking up arms against the local militia?

So now we begin to dismantle the forces all over again for the umpteenth time and start over from scratch? Obviously someone is winning this war against the American taxpayer. Who"s the enemy again?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:56 PM on 04/13/2008
- Rmtns See Profile I'm a Fan of Rmtns permalink

Now here's a novel Idea, let's make sure that all of these Iraqis that have been being paid by the US have been fingerprinted, entered into the "Database" that Bush has inflicted onto the world, and forever keep THEM on the terrorist list, never to get a job (travel internationally,receive humanitarian assistance) in anywhere in the world. Make sure to publish it too, and it would stop desertions in the Iraqi armyand police within a month, I guarantee!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 PM on 04/13/2008
- serialcoma See Profile I'm a Fan of serialcoma permalink

Sorry... bush only treats US citizens like that....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 PM on 04/13/2008
- ming099 See Profile I'm a Fan of ming099 permalink

...the common MISconception is that the Iraqi 'army' and the 'police' will stand up and fight........they wont....never have...never will.....these yahoos join for the paycheck then run or switch sides when the bullets begin to fly......middle-eastern Arabs (and this goes for ALL of them) will only fight and kill if they can get the drop on whoever they are fighting.....only if there is little or no resistance and they tend to kill in horrendous ways.....heads cut off...bodies dismembered......

.....the 'surge' worked because many of whom they were sent over to fight...... JOINED the Iraqi army and police force or melted back into society and hid their weapons , laid low until the timing was right...then they use the element of surprise and IED's to grind down the effectiveness of American forces ....who are ALREADY tired of fighting an enemy with NO UNIFORM and NO FACE......

.....GET OUR PEOPLE OUT AND LET THE IRAQI'S SETTLE THIS........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 04/13/2008
- knowhelpnow See Profile I'm a Fan of knowhelpnow permalink

I don't believe a word that comes out of any of the Bush appointees or anyone in this Administration. I thought we figured that out already. He wants to take out Iran just like he wanted to take out Iraq, he will make anybody say and do what he wants heard or their gone. So why bother to listen to this crap. Surge working a joke, Iraq = terrorist a joke, bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran=serious problem.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 PM on 04/13/2008
- osage See Profile I'm a Fan of osage permalink

But Bush, Cheney, Patreus and McCain ALL said the Iraqi Army performed well in Basra? I don't understand how they could ALL be so wrong and or dishonest. These are the people who ask us to trust their motives and their judgments, yet they apparently don't know what's actually going on and or they don't what us to know what's actually going on. How can that be? How could an American President, a Vice President, a highly decorated Army General and a Presidential aspirant ALL be so incompetent and or so purposefully, maliciously deceitful to the American people? Do these guys work for America or for the al-Maliki Iraqi government? Are they failed American patriots or are they successful enemies of America? In either case, they should be impeached, fired and condemned for gross dereliction of duty and or treasonous disservice the United States of America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 04/13/2008
- Blutus See Profile I'm a Fan of Blutus permalink

Hey, Maliki said they were ready to take over!

Time to leave!

Wheels up!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 AM on 04/13/2008
- VOTER See Profile I'm a Fan of VOTER permalink

McClatchy recently had an article with interviews with several Shite Iraqi men from Basra.

All had been members of the police or military.

They witnessed Americans and fellow Iraqis kill their family members and destroy their homes.

Their Number One Enemy - UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 04/13/2008
- dadw5boys See Profile I'm a Fan of dadw5boys permalink

It take 11 months for U.S. Contractors to train 1400 Iraqi Policeman .

Good deal for the contractors !

WHY NOT STOP CALLING THEM SHITES OR SUNNIS????

REFER TO IRAQI CITIZENS AS IRAQI'S MAYBE THEY WILL BEGIN TO SEE THEMSELVES AS IRAQI'S AND NOT JUST A MEMBER OF A RELIGIOUS SECT!!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 AM on 04/13/2008
- realpolitic See Profile I'm a Fan of realpolitic permalink

Do you forget whether you are Catholic or protestant? They do have identities independent of those we assign to them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:52 PM on 04/13/2008
- LaFeminazi See Profile I'm a Fan of LaFeminazi permalink


The military are Shites.

The militias are Shites.

The US Iraqi mercenaries [the awakening] are Sunnis.

The Kurds have a 70,000 strong army paid for by the US.

This sounds like deliberately arming all sides for a civil war.

The surge is working!. 4 surges for the price of one1

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 AM on 04/13/2008
- wedgie See Profile I'm a Fan of wedgie permalink

I thought soldiers who went AWOL were treated a bit more harshly than just being fired. Ah, the good life in the Iraqi military.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 AM on 04/13/2008
- Harinama See Profile I'm a Fan of Harinama permalink

LOL, do you know that Bremer completely disbanded a well run police force and military in Iraq, leaving them destitute and jobless for years after the invasion? Do you know that Bremers 100 action items basically turned Iraq into a US corporate colony?

I'm surprised ANY iraqi's will fight their fellow countrymen and FREEDOM FIGHTERS. Guess what? Most violence would stop if we just got the fuck out, and let the iraqi's rebuild their country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 04/13/2008
- browndog2 See Profile I'm a Fan of browndog2 permalink

Going AWOL and desserting your comrades on the battlefield are a tad different. Dismissed? I say re-assigned.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 04/13/2008
- serialcoma See Profile I'm a Fan of serialcoma permalink

Regardless.. bush is guilty of this type of action also... let's just fire him now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 04/13/2008
- Nyland8 See Profile I'm a Fan of Nyland8 permalink

Great ... a little more unemployment. Just what they need. Does anyone think there isn't a faction ready to put guns back into their hands?

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 AM on 04/13/2008
- Blutus See Profile I'm a Fan of Blutus permalink

Get us out of there before all the airlines go bankrupt.

Declare victory. Whatever, but get us out there!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 AM on 04/13/2008
- Earl See Profile I'm a Fan of Earl permalink

What happens to US soldiers who desert in battle? And why isn't that good enough for Iraqi soldiers? Why do Iraqi soldiers get to draw a salary and then walk away when the going gets tough? And what happens to their weapons? Do these US-taxpayer-trained "soldiers" with US-taxpayer-bought weapons get to join a local strongman's militia and then turn around and attack US soldiers with our own weapons and training? Why are we still in Iraq? Someone please remind me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 AM on 04/13/2008
- hoodrat See Profile I'm a Fan of hoodrat permalink

You're trying to (as all Americans are), understand them from an American standpoint - that continues to be a serious mistake. No, Iraqis did not stand up for their dictator - nor will they stand up for the "new" dictators. We could've went there and shit gold as we walked down the streets - gold can't buy non existent foodstuffs, turn the electricity on permanently, put the children back in school, convince the "Iraqis on the street", that we're anything but occupiers of their sovereign country. So, if you're outgunned - play dirty. There is NO difference between this part of our two-front war, and Vietnam, make it NOT worth our while to be there - through attrition, and huge expenditures of capitol. Exactly what bin-Laden wanted.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 PM on 04/13/2008
- lobear00 See Profile I'm a Fan of lobear00 permalink

Iraq is not the United States. Cheny/Bush invaded Iraq for the Country's "Oil Resources. and now Occupy another Country as did "Hitler. These two Clowns want to be a part of that history.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 PM on 04/13/2008
- browndog2 See Profile I'm a Fan of browndog2 permalink

Quite the revovling dorr huh? The State Dept. needs to cancel the contracts of all foreign security teams for Iraqi politicians, and have Iraqi security. They might actually get serious then.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 04/13/2008
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