Clinton: 'Not Relevant' Last Time I Went To Church, Fired Gun

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CNN   |   April 13, 2008 08:33 PM


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Speaking in Pennsylvania on Sunday, Democratic Presidential Candidate Hillary Clinton said it "wasn't relevant" the last time she went to church or fired a gun:

After a weekend spent making direct appeals to gun owners and church goers, Hillary Clinton said Sunday a query about the last time she fired a gun or attended church services "is not a relevant question in this debate" over Barack Obama's recent comments on small town Americans.


"We can answer that some other time," Clinton said at a press conference held in a working class neighborhood here. "This is about what people feel is being said about them. I went to church on Easter. I mean, so?"

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Hillary Clinton in the White House:

"We have a 20% unemployment rate and people are starving because there isn't enough food for the bread lines. So?"

"We are still at war in Iraq and now Iran and are getting ready to invade North Korea. So?"

"I've just been indicated for election financing fraud for the 3rd time in my presidency. So?"

"I've just ceded Alaska and Hawaii to the Chinese due to our massive debts owed to them. So?"

You think I'm exagerating? Not as much as Hillary!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 AM on 04/15/2008

Good Goddess! Can the hypocrisy out of this harridan, Clinton, get any more offensive?!?!?!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 PM on 04/14/2008

Well you brought it up!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 PM on 04/14/2008

Yeah, you made it relevant when you opened your lying mouth, trailer-trash.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 04/14/2008

How full of sh*t can one person be?

Can you imagine if you were like this in your personal life?
I find it hard to believe that Sen. Clinton has any genuine friends.
You simply cant be this full of shit and maintain honest relationships.
I would wager that the few "friends" she does have are only around her based on her proximity to power. It's usually a "what can I get out of this friendship" kind of thing with the sorts that hang around Sen Clinton.

She is clearly an individual who does not put other individuals before her own ambition, which seems like the most basic component of having real friends.
Anyway, I know I'm really off topic but I just sit in amazement at how full of shit this person is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 PM on 04/14/2008

google "clinton misspoke"
Results 1 - 10 of about 107,000 for "clinton misspoke"

google "obama misspoke"
Results 1 - 10 of about 3,230 for "obama misspoke"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 PM on 04/14/2008

If you don't want to talk about something, DON'T BRING UP THE TOPIC! Hillary shoots her mouth off (pun totally intended) about how she was taught to shoot as a child, but now she doesn't want to talk about firing guns. If she was asked about guns, that would be one thing, but she brought up the topic herself when trying to knock down Obama. One would think she'd be politically savvy enough to know not to open the door to topics she doesn't want to discuss.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 PM on 04/14/2008

From Hillaryhub.com. "Senator Clinton is a lifelong United Methodist, the second largest protestant denomination in the United States. Her church membership is at First United Methodist Church in Little Rock. "

She hasn't bothered changing her church membership from a place she hasn't lived in since 1992. Little Rock is almost 1,300 miles from Chappaqua. That should pretty well sum up how much churchgoing she's been doing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 PM on 04/14/2008

That's because she's not supposed to publicly announce her ties to "The Family"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 AM on 04/15/2008

Now Hillary takes a play out of the Mitt Romney play book - and we all know how successful his presidential bid was.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 PM on 04/14/2008



Let me see if I have this straight... Hill is " tired of having Republicans, or frankly our own Democrats, give any ammunition to Republicans because what happens then is Republicans take advantage of the situation"....does this mean that she is tired of taking Obama's comments out of context and reframing them as elitist? Is she perhaps a bit appalled at how she helped make Rev. Wright a household word, denigrated Obama's credentials, or at how she accused him of "disenfranchising" Mi/Fl voters?

Or is she saying that she had to do all that because politics is a contact sport, but no one should ever bring up anything legitimately negative about her own character or hypocrisy?

Democrats had a red carpet straight to the white house until she decided that if she couldn't get the nomination then the whole democratic party would go down with her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 PM on 04/14/2008

The MSM wall all over Cheney's "so" in his response to a question about America's lack of support for the occupation. As much as i've come to realize the MSM is fairly consistent about doing Hillary's bidding, i honestly thought i'd awaken this morning to see her "so" linked to his, along with a discussion about demonstrated dismissiveness and condescension. Instead, they're continuing to gnaw on whether Obama "fatally wounded himself with the bitter comment."

I'm so sick of this bullshit from the media.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 PM on 04/14/2008

The MSM is nothing more than a tool for public perception control...
watch the whole thing:
http://zeitgeistmovie.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 PM on 04/14/2008

UH HELLO>..it is NOT RELEVANT whether she is a gun user or a church goer....SHE is not hte one who isulted those people. Obama is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 AM on 04/14/2008

If you are insulted perhaps you need more education so you can comprehend what Obama said. People ARE bitter and digusted and some are imbeciles too!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 04/14/2008

So, you are the one. The one who lets the MSM tell you what to think. feel and believe. Try thinking for yourself. Recognize the truth for yourself. Obama spoke the truth and you can't handle the truth. That also explains why the pundits on MSNBC, CNN and Fox are so successful at selling the propaganda as oppose to the reality.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 PM on 04/14/2008

She is spinning, unspinning, and respinning so fast I don't even understand what she's saying. What the heck is she supposed to be in favor of, again? Oh, yeah: Whatever the PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T VOTED YET want her to be.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 04/14/2008

In the end it all comes down to : Who would you rather be President, a candidate who spent their early life after college and Law School helping the poor by being a Community Organizer or a candidate who spent their early life after college and Law School as a " Goldwater Girl and Lawyer for Wal * Mart ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 AM on 04/14/2008

Sen Clinton herself is not relevant as a candidate for POTUS. She is, as they said in the middle of the 20th century, out to lunch & out of it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 AM on 04/14/2008

Out of touch is her middle name! How dare anyone ask her when she last shot a rifle or attended church, when was the last time she had been intimate with Bill? How dare us ask anything about her! She was so liberal when running for N.Y. Senate even claiming to be a Yankees fan, now she's trying to look conservative to get small town gun owning votes! She WILL SAY and DO ANYTHING!!!!!!!! Let's send her and Cheney out to hunt together!!! Sounds like a win win for all!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 AM on 04/14/2008

THE MATH " Monday, April 14 " One Week Before Pennsylvania

TIME: 6:00 a.m. Eastern (US)

Delegates needed to win nomination " 2,023.5 (considering status quo)
Pledged Delegates in " 2,687.0 of 3,253.0 " 82.6%

********************************************

THE MAGIC NUMBER

Here"s what we have after considering the information in the Polls section below:

Senator Obama"s Magic Number " 93 of 304 remaining superdelegates needed, or 30.6%
Senator Clinton"s Magic Number " 230 of 304 remaining superdelegates needed, or 75.7%

The Huckabee Index " 74 (or 24.3% of remaining superdelegates needed)

The "Huckabee Index" is the number of any combination of superdelegates and convention/caucus delegates that the Obama campaign needs (or the Clinton campaign loses) to make it mathematically impossible for the Clinton campaign to win the nomination, based on current delegate count and polls for upcoming contests. (Disclaimer: This is meant to poke fun at Mike Huckabee, not Hillary Clinton)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5493720

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 AM on 04/14/2008

Watch the entire interview. She goes on to say how Democrats should not give info to the Republicans to use against fellow Democrats. Yeah, she is bold.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/04/13/sot.h.clinton.mum.guns.cnn

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 AM on 04/14/2008

Was she packing whwen she fas to dodge bullets in Bosnia?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 AM on 04/14/2008

Hung up on that huh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 AM on 04/14/2008

Everyone should be. She lied, plain and simple. She didn't mis-speak, it wasn't a case of being "exhausted". She made up the story out of whole cloth, for no reason that I can discern.

My great grandmother, a salt of the eath Indiana farm wife (who DID know the proper end of a gun to point at something) used to say, "liars are bad, but it's the people who lie when they don't have to that you really have to watch out for". My dad used to recall this when he was talking about Bill Clinton, but it just as apropos of HIllary, I think.

I've been a Clinton supporter for years, and was behind Hillary until this campaign. All I've seen from her is lies and spin and prevarication and politics as usual. I don't know if Obama will be any different, but I know Hillary won't be. She's been showing that ever since she didn't lock up the nomination by Super Tuesday, as she had been predicting she would.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 AM on 04/14/2008

Everyone should be. She lied, plain and simple. She didn't mis-speak, it wasn't a case of being "exhausted". She made up the story out of whole cloth, for no reason that I can discern.
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The President of Bosnia backs up her statement as being "misconstrued" and not a lie.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 AM on 04/14/2008

Yet you have no problem when Obama LIED blatantly saying that his advisors NEVER met with the Canadians???? That seems like more of a cover up situation. HRC, was in bosnia, it was a war zone. So she embellished big deal, she's a politician and so is Saint Obama. Who too has lied throughout this campaign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 AM on 04/14/2008

there is no hilliary clinton. she is a shape shifter. whatever is up in the polls this minute is what she becomes. pathetic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 AM on 04/14/2008

I guess HIllary wasn't paying attention when making the same type of bogus claim about being a "iifelong hunter" helped torpedo Mitt Romney's chances at the Republican nomination. As a matter of fact, her campaign reminds me a lot of Romney's campaign. Be whatever you think the audience you are addressing wants you to be. It didn't work out so well for him, so I wonder why she thinks it will work any better for her?

Doesn't learn from her mistakes.
Doesn't learn from her husband's mistakes.
Doesn't learn from the mistakes of people in the same line of work.

Ready to lead on Day One? I'm not convinced. We've had a President for the last eight years that doesn't learn from mistakes (or even admit that he might have made any), and look where that's gotten us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 AM on 04/14/2008

So convenient that you were there when Hill hunted as a young girl.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 04/14/2008

She was so anti gun in Bill's tenure and now she's a sharpshooter! Duck Hunt on nintendo doesn't count! She also said she doesn't want a President to drink with but one who deals with the issues.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 04/14/2008

You're right. She's proven so trustworthy in the past that I ought to just give her the benefit of the doubt, right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 AM on 04/14/2008

Come on. I mean she has been saying she is a hunter for all of two days now. Regardless of the fact it is politically beneficial for her to make this argument now, we should give her the benefit of the doubt.....NOT

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 AM on 04/14/2008

New article in today's NYT by Krugman, basically supporting what Obama has been saying about people's attitude about the economy...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/14/opinion/14krugman.html?_r=1&ref=todayspaper&oref=slogin

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 AM on 04/14/2008


I had such high hopes that this election would be different. I hoped that the Democratic candidates would raise their dialog and refuse to play the same old silly political games. I knew that it would be difficult with a media which would much rather present the election through an Entertainment Tonight lens, but still I had hope. I hoped also that the political blogs would provide a refuge from the media hysterics, remaining focused on the issues that matter in the lives of most Americans. But just because a blog writes about politicians, it doesn't mean that it's a political blog. I'm so very tired of the pettiness. I tired of the barrage of intellectually dishonest arguments.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 AM on 04/14/2008

Apparently you weren't paying enough attention to the questions asked. The very first question posted to Obama forced him to explain his words in San Francisco and with it a response to Hillary Clinton. The rest of his interview was more enlightening and gave him an opportunity to explain how he felt on issues that pertained to faith. That's why the crowd responded with a standing ovation at the end of his interview. Barack Obama is brilliant. He has no problem recalling incidents from his past and is eager to offer personal information such as his family in Kenya, his church, his vision for the future, and in so doing, doesn't have to expand on the truth. He speaks slowly and deliberately because he's thinking all the time. For his part, I thought they cut him off too soon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 AM on 04/14/2008

There was also a specificity to his presentation that was nowhere to be found in Sen. Clinton's; and one can't help but think that she's so constrained by personal and professional corruption, conflicts of interest and so on, that she's forced to omit more than she's able to say. We are mired in another country after invading it & tearing it to shreds...billions of dollars are bleeding away; and in the meanwhile our economic doldrums are infecting the rest of the world's economies...And for this, candidate Clinton offers glassy-eyed nostrums concerning her personal faith in Jeebus...A tired, cynical, conniving, greedy old bore, that's what she is in a nutshell. She is still very much that woman who lifted furniture from the White House when she left...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:07 PM on 04/14/2008

How DARE you turn my own words around on ME!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:03 AM on 04/14/2008

What if she fired a gun in a church?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 AM on 04/14/2008

How did you find out about Mark Penn's suggestion?