Users Plead Microsoft To Save Windows XP

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JESSICA MINTZ | April 14, 2008 07:49 AM EST | AP


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SEATTLE — Microsoft Corp.'s operating systems run most personal computers around the globe and are a cash cow for the world's largest software maker. But you'd never confuse a Windows user with the passionate fans of Mac OS X or even the free Linux operating system. Unless it's someone running Windows XP, a version Microsoft wants to retire.

Fans of the six-year-old operating system set to be pulled off store shelves in June have papered the Internet with blog posts, cartoons and petitions recently. They trumpet its superiority to Windows Vista, Microsoft's latest PC operating system, whose consumer launch last January was greeted with lukewarm reviews.

No matter how hard Microsoft works to persuade people to embrace Vista, some just can't be wowed. They complain about Vista's hefty hardware requirements, its less-than-peppy performance, occasional incompatibility with other programs and devices and frequent, irritating security pop-up windows.

For them, the impending disappearance of XP computers from retailers, and the phased withdrawal of technical support in coming years, is causing a minor panic.

Take, for instance, Galen Gruman. A longtime technology journalist, Gruman is more accustomed to writing about trends than starting them.

But after talking to Windows users for months, he realized his distaste for Vista and strong attachment to XP were widespread.

"It sort of hit us that, wait a minute, XP will be gone as of June 30. What are we going to do?" he said. "If no one does something, it's going to be gone."

So Gruman started a Save XP Web petition, gathering since January more than 100,000 signatures and thousands of comments, mostly from die-hard XP users who want Microsoft to keep selling it until the next version of Windows is released, currently targeted for 2010.

On the petition site's comments section, some users proclaimed they will downgrade from Vista to XP _ an option available in the past to businesses, but now open for the first time to consumers who buy Vista Ultimate or Business editions _ if they need to buy a new computer after XP goes off the market.

Others used the comments section to rail against the very idea that Microsoft has the power to enforce the phase-out from a stable, decent product to one that many consider worse, while profiting from the move. Many threatened to leave Windows for Apple or Linux machines.

Microsoft already extended the XP deadline once, but it shows no signs it will do so again. The company has declined to meet with Gruman to consider the petition. Microsoft is aware of the petition, it said in a statement to The Associated Press, and "will continue to be guided by feedback we hear from partners and customers about what makes sense based on their needs."

Gruman said he'd keep pressing for a meeting.

"They really believe if they just close their eyes, people will have no choice," he said.

In fact, most people who get a new computer will end up with Vista. In 2008, 94 percent of new Windows machines for consumers worldwide will run Vista, forecasts industry research group IDC. For businesses, about 75 percent of new PCs will have Vista. (That figure takes into account companies that choose to downgrade to XP.)

Although Microsoft may not budge on selling new copies of XP, it may have to extend support for it.

Al Gillen, an IDC analyst, estimated that at the end of 2008 nearly 60 percent of consumer PCs and almost 70 percent of business PCs worldwide will still run XP. Microsoft plans to end full support _ including warranty claims and free help with problems _ in April 2009. The company will continue providing a more limited level of service until April 2014.

Gillen said efforts like Gruman's grass-roots petition may not influence the software maker, but business customers' demands should carry more clout.

"You really can't make 69 percent of your installed base unhappy with you," he said.

Some companies _ such as Wells Manufacturing Co. in Woodstock, Ill. _ are crossing their fingers that he's right. The company, which melts scrap steel and casts iron bars, has 200 PCs that run Windows 2000 or XP. (Windows 2000 is no longer sold on PCs. Mainstream support has ended, but limited support is available through the middle of 2010.)

Wells usually replaces 50 of its PCs every 18 months. In the most recent round of purchases, Chief Information Officer Lou Peterhans said, the company stuck with XP because several of its applications don't run well on Vista.

"There is no strong reason to go to Vista, other than eventually losing support for XP," he said. Peterhans added that the company isn't planning to bring in Vista computers for 18 months to two years. If Microsoft keeps to its current timetable, its next operating system, code-named Windows 7, will be on the market by then.

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On the Net:

Save XP Petition: http://weblog.infoworld.com/save-xp/

Microsoft's Windows support timeline: http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifepolicy

 
 

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If you XP is running good then SHUTOFF automatic updates.................unnecessary crap and its back door into your computer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:28 AM on 04/15/2008

This happens every time Microsoft pulls an OS. I remember hearing identical complaints when XP and 98 were released, and the same complaints about pulling support for 95, 98, etc.

They didn't care then, they're not going to now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 AM on 04/15/2008

`
geeks of the world rise up
don't take that crap anymore from the
big-money profiteer Bill Gates
Mac now
& Mac forever !

an Apple a day
keep Bill Gates
at bay
.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 AM on 04/15/2008

As with all their versions of Windows they are full of bugs. Windows 3.1, Windows 95, Windows 97. Windows XP all had 2 years of fixes. I am still getting Windows XP updates, so maybe a couple years from now when they have worked some of the bugs out of Vista I might buy a computer with it. The last computer I bought I had loaded with XP, even though Vista was available. Vista as far as I have seen is still very unstable and I will wait for them to works the bugs out. Sending a petition to Microsoft I dont think will be effective. But sending a message to your Computer supplier that you are not satisfied with Vista and would like to keep XP as an option might.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 PM on 04/14/2008

Vista is a piece of dung..Half my files are unreadable because of these assholes at micrsoft. If you like Apple you'll love this slow ripoff pos. I want my money back!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 AM on 04/15/2008

Bill Gates: "For more than 25 years, Windows has unlocked the power of personal computing."
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Merely the admission that the same operating system platform -namely Windows- has been around for 25 years in an industry where a three year old product is deemed obsolete, is an admission of how market monopolies promote EXTREME OBSOLESCENCE.

The idea of Windows with one pane on top of another is horribly dated. With the proliferation of 3D gaming, multitasking and excessive computing horsepower, there is no reason that a 3-dimensional operating system does not as yet exist. When a group of university students can create a 3D OS based on Linux, why, when Microsoft scoops up the best programmers in the world, cannot Microsoft?

Because Microsoft is obsolete, their programmers fat and overpaid.

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Here is a test for you: Take a high powered computer say, Athlon Dual Core 6000 with 2GB RAM and a 512MB video card based on a high performance top-line motherboard and Windows XP.

Open Windows Task Manager/Performance and note that the CPU Usage graphs and Memory usage indicators will show that the system is merely idling when demanding multitasking of ordinary Windows tasks, yet the OS responses are still too slow. This proves that Windows itself is the source of poor computer response, rather than a lack of available power.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:08 PM on 04/14/2008

Microsoft Windows code itself is OBSOLETE -still based upon Windows 3.0- and a brand new approach is needed.

And this is why Microsoft introduced Windows Vista: to eat up the extra power avaiolable in new computers WITH GIMMICKS without improving Operating System performance. In fact performance so suffers that most low and mid cost computers sold today with Vista come out of the box as performance duds. In fact the above described computer should be the absolute minimum specifications for a Vista computer to give acceptable performance..................AND STILL NO 3D desktop !!!

Microsoft designed Vista EXCLUSIVELY as a profit generating plan both for itself and media conglomerates; rather than focusing upon the consumer's needs, Microsoft focused upon the consumer's wallet.

Vista is the new Windows ME: a hated buggy disappointment.

Microsoft, like Windows is obsolete. Just because no one has yet replaced them is not an indication of Microsoft's strength, but of the power of their monopolist position. And this is where Mac has completely failed to take advantage of this opportunity by packaging their OS for the rest of us.

In conclusion, Bill Gates needs to address this shame of his monopolist corporation more fully.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 04/14/2008

Actually, Vista freed MS from a frightening amount of legacy code dating back to 3.0. Ironically, that's without a doubt one of the biggest reasons Vista blows.

Wait a generation or two and they'll have worked out the bugs with the new codebase, and by the time it's running as smooth as XP finally does, they'll pull it for a new line and the upgrade cycle will continue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 AM on 04/15/2008

I just buy great ,used off corporate lease commercial grade HP's that come with win XP preloaded and the restore disks included. Got my mom one for Christmas for $185.00 . Works great and is veery fast. No software bloat preloaded either. Just XP pro. Its also known as recycling.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 PM on 04/14/2008

Where do you buy these things, if you don't mind divulging that info?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 PM on 04/14/2008

HEY DUDES !!!!!!!!!!

JUST DOWNLOAD THE 3.1 EXE. AND WINDOWS 2000 EXE. AND MAKE THEM A PART OF THE VISTA OPERATION SYSTEM OR XP AND THINGS WORK.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 PM on 04/14/2008

Not only that it's all bare bones stuff, and the stuff that works for free on WXP you have to PAY for on Vista, as if MS isn't making enough money, they'll try and nickel and dime users all they can.
Bill this is a BAD decision, you will alienate your customer base and they'll defect to Apple.
I'm now open to that possibility.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 PM on 04/14/2008

So I guess all those H1-B visa programmers M$ hired are doing crappy jobs. Maybe they should have stuck with the Americans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 PM on 04/14/2008


Vista was like having your mother standing over your shoulder and smacking your hand everytime you tried to do something.

"NO!" SMACK! "You can't go there!"

Vista sucks. XP Pro remains a user-friendly system.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 04/14/2008

Most computer users don't know and couldn't care less what Operating System they are using or even what an OS is. If they did, Microsoft probably wouldn't be where they are today. You can be sure Microsoft doesn't care about 100k XP fanboys and that they will do whatever needed to maintain their stranglehold on the OS market. So: Where Do You Want To Go Yesterday? :(

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 AM on 04/14/2008

Let us get an APPLE instead!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 AM on 04/14/2008

I say people should move to Mac or Linux. I may be doing that eventually too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 AM on 04/14/2008

IF I ever have to buy another PC, that's my #1 option, too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 04/14/2008

I do contract work for a major company and the first thing they do with a computer that arrives with Vista is format the drive and install XP Pro.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 04/14/2008

I've had Vista on a new laptop for about 2 months and I am going to bit the bullet pretty soon and do the same thing. Vista sucks!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 AM on 04/14/2008

I have returned three extremely strong and expensive Vista computers because Vista kept failing, required to much time working around and simply didn't have drivers to run on its unstable platform. I recently ended up buying a Mac and putting on my own retail version of XP from m previous Laptop that broke down. XP an operating system that runs more applications than any other OS is the world. Recent improvements have certainly helped improve Vista stability and drivers that support the OS, but the bottom line is there is nothing Vista can do that XP cannot do more efficiently and better even one year after Vista came out. Vista is still a memory hog that steals processor and RAM needed to run applications just to keep its OS going. Its graphics and sound platforms are only 80% developed just as many of its drivers. Many manufacturers have refused to make drivers because they fell MS needs to complete minimal development in certain areas their products can perform with the quality they are intending. They are refusing develop the platforms for MS

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 AM on 04/14/2008
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