US Economy Changes Spending Patterns For Majority, But Not For The Super Rich

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Everyone from Alan Greenspan to Billionaire George Soros and less endowed politicians like Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are uttering the "R" word these days. The AP has a report today on how a growing number of Americans are so affected by the economy that they "won't buy a home anytime soon." But the rich, as they say, "are not like you and me." The New York Times has a report on how the ultra-wealthy are still signing their checks away to private jets, hummers, $40K weekends in Miami, and much more. First read the excerpt below from the AP article on how people are reaction to the housing crisis. Then read about how the wealthy are still living it up.

AP Poll: More Avoid Buying Homes:

A growing majority say they won't buy a home anytime soon, the latest sign of increasing pessimism about the nation's housing crisis, a poll showed Monday.

In a vivid sketch of how the sputtering real estate market is causing distress throughout the country, the Associated Press-AOL Money & Finance poll found that more than a quarter of homeowners worry their home will lose value over the next two years. Fully one in seven mortgage holders fear they won't be able to make their monthly payments on time over the next six months.

NY Times: Ultrarich Still Spending Lavishly, Despite Tough Times:

Who said anything about a recession? Sometime between the government bailout of Bear Stearns and the Bureau of Labor Statistics report that America lost 80,000 jobs in March, Lee Tachman spent roughly $50,000 last month on a four-day jaunt to Miami for himself and three close friends.

The trip was an exercise in luxuriant male bonding. Mr. Tachman, who is 38, and his friends got around by private jet, helicopter, Hummer limousine, Ferraris and Lamborghinis; stayed in V.I.P. rooms at Casa Casuarina, the South Beach hotel that was formerly Gianni Versace's mansion; and played "extreme adventure paintball" with former agents of the federal Drug Enforcement Administration.

 
 

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We are going to see people selling more drugs...even people you wouldn't suspect. I would never but I may be in better shape than people facing the prospect for the first time sleeping in a tent on the outside of a city.

Check out Tent City on youtube.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 PM on 04/15/2008

Yet more proof the US is rapidly becoming a third-world country, where 99% of the people toil and suffer to make the 1% of ultra-rich even richer...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 PM on 04/14/2008

Are you on drugs or do you really believe 99% of Americans are suffering financially right now?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 PM on 04/14/2008

"I was disappointed as you all were in Obama's comments." - Hillary Clinton

HA HA HA. How many are fool enough to believe Hillary was, "disappointed?"

How ironic that Hillary's scheme is to make voters in Pennsylvania and Indiana bitter, and create a bitter harvest of votes for herself by cultivating bitterness..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 04/14/2008

I just bought a sweet HumV with a matching Rolex to boot!
GOD I love America!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 04/14/2008

In a way this is a good thing. This credit crunch is causing people to learn about the importance of saving money. It is more important to save for tomorrow than live in the moment from paycheck to paycheck. If you can set aside even a $100 a month it is worth it. We cannot always say that things are going to go great. We have no way of knowing when something bad happens. For those times we can only be prepared.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 04/14/2008

I agree, this is why I don't want Gov bailouts for foreclosures either, if you do that all you do is teach people that they don't have to be responsible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 PM on 04/14/2008

Ah, the ultra rich - like the $109 Million dollar Clintons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 PM on 04/14/2008

This is TRULY an outstanding report - so the super rich are not affected by a downturn in the economy - WOW that is a fantastic bit of news...

Let me guess - next you'll have a story that the very poor don't benefit greatly in a boom economy...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 PM on 04/14/2008

eat the rich

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 PM on 04/14/2008

"eat the rich"

Eeeeww.

They're good to make excellent bio-fuel though... ;)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 PM on 04/14/2008

Fatty, greasy and too high in cholesterol. Good for dog food though.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 04/14/2008

The class of ruling billionaires that the Republicans have worked so hard to create is no longer tied to the mere nation-state. Beyond the reach of citizenship and law, the ultrarich stand astride the world with the serf class (i.e. the vast majority of the human population) beneath their boot heels. Now that they are transnational and routinely hoodwink the public through their corporate media propaganda, they can buy and control all the governments they want, extracting the wealth from countries like the US through no-bid contracts and unending, highly profitable wars. And when the nation starts to collapse as the middle class and the working class stagger and fall, who cares? There's always the mountain resorts of Switzerland, or the vast estates of Paraguay, or the fleshpots of Dubai, where they can watch the chaos they've created from a safe, lofty distance. And there are plenty more serfs where the Americans came from.
And for the ultra-rich, "national defense" is just a con artist's code for looting the public treasury. They only need the Pentagon to supply them with no-bid, no-performance contracts, now that they have private armies like Blackwater to protect them and kill any serfs who might get in their way, just the way they did on the streets of Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:44 PM on 04/14/2008

Yes, those evil rich republicans like the Kennedys, Rockefellers, Herb Kohl, Corzine and Pelosi to name a few of those evil rich bastards. Those rich repubs don't know what it is like to scrape by like the common man democrats.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 PM on 04/14/2008

Don't forget 90% of Hollyweird.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 04/14/2008

Workers of the world, unite! You have nothing to lose but your chains.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 04/14/2008

Yes! Start the movement, quit your job tomorrow!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 PM on 04/14/2008

Another interesting theory . . . let me guess you're a 9/11 conspiracy guy too?

I really haven't figured you guys out yet, you call Bush the dumbest man ever but many of you believe he can somehow pull off some great conspiracies without anyone getting a shread of evidence on him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:32 PM on 04/14/2008

You confuse the monkey with the organ grinder.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 PM on 04/14/2008

I guess we need to thank the super rich for keeping our economy afloat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:16 PM on 04/14/2008

Have you ever worked for a poor person?

If they all just packed up their stuff and went home it would be funny for all of these "redistribution of wealth" people to react to the disappearance of all goods/services.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 04/14/2008

While you are at it.Thank them for paying majority of taxes!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:46 PM on 04/14/2008

True :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 PM on 04/14/2008

I think when you make a large part of the money, you should pay the large part of the taxes. How much money do you need to be comfortable. Its about time we start putting priorities where they need to be. If your money was made straight up with out manipulation because you have alot of money, then more power to you. If you want to pay services just like the average guy, i think the average guy should have an equal say with the rich. Please don't tell me that is so. The manipulation and tom foolery that greedy people do because they have money stands out. The aversge joe does not have that power. I have worked hard all of my life and served my country with honor. I have always moved upward in any job i have taken. I payed 325.00 for one basket of groceries yesterday nad i was being frugal. That is ridiculous. We have to older ladies that live near us and they can barely feed themselves at these prices. You have to be blind not to see the culture of greed that has become the norm. If we are a country at war (occupation), why aren't we, as a nation, tightening up our belts. I'm sorry i can't afford my own lobiest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 04/14/2008

You can thank the high spike in food prices to Global Warming's own biofuels like ethanol :) Thanks Al.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 PM on 04/14/2008

It's was a very interesting reading. Thank you all.

Even the trolls were articulate ;-)

Well, from the enviromentalists' angle of vision, 1 % economic growth is always bad news for the planet.

So good side of the bad news is, current recession is good news for the planet and the future generations !

Good night all !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 04/14/2008

Did anyone in here who is for "redistribution of wealth" ever attend college or have a job? I have never heard such whining by people who are jealous of what they don't have.

I encourage anyone to go speak with a grandparent and ask if they felt entitled to other people's money. Where did this entitlement idea come from? You people are basically promoting theft from those that have to give those that don't have.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 04/14/2008

OTHER PEOPLES MONEY. Hmmmmmmmmm

I think alot of people have no issue with people that work hard and make good money. It's the ones that do it under the current ways. The accepted norm of GREED. A good Neocon friend of mine asked me once if i wanted to be rich. I told him i wanted to be comfortable not rich. If i happened to be rich along the way, i wanted to do it on my own with no special interest help. It used to be that people would manipulate the system under the guise of good. Now it is right in the open and rampant. It is bad when 5% of this country are paying a price for an unjustified occupation and 1% are reaping the profits. The rest are just trying to get by. We need people who lead by example. Not this current group that feel that if you do good, you will be as well off as they are. Distribution of wealth in a fair system is good. This system is not fair to the average person. And i am not talking about taxes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 PM on 04/14/2008

Let's say everyone in the country only makes 50k a year no matter what you do, work or no work. What do you think the quality or productivity of Americans would be?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 PM on 04/14/2008

This ought to put a ' hitch in their giddyup '...Isaiah Poole nails 'Em but good, on the nail head !

http://ga3.org/ct/g7xum8p1tEdQ/


-ralph

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:09 PM on 04/14/2008

NIce one.

-CJ

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 PM on 04/14/2008

Well, why shouldn't they?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:57 PM on 04/14/2008

No problem as long as the ultra rich are still spending. We get the tinkle down, remember?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 PM on 04/14/2008

can you name any time in the history of the world that the ultra rich have been hurt by a couple of quarters of slow growth?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 04/14/2008

Unfortunately, everything they buy has been manufactured in Indonesia and China these days. And many 'domestic' retailers are in fact foreign owned. So trickle -down has turned into trickle-out. Heck, working class Americans can't even manage to land menial jobs as nannies and gardeners anymore! Like someone wittily remarked recently on the radio, would you REALLY allow a 'lower-class' American to take care of your child?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:54 PM on 04/14/2008

How is the unemployment rate at 5% then?

The trickle out effect is nothing more than a direct relation to the minimum wage in the United States. If you could hire a neighborhood kid to cut your lawn for $5 or pay a lawn service to do it for $50, who would pick?

Same thing happens with jobs that don't take a lot of skill, they are too expensive here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 04/14/2008

The unemployment rate is 5 percent because the Bush administration orders all departments of the executive branch to lie.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 PM on 04/14/2008

I wonder why. If you really understand economics, you would wonder why prices are so high. If they actually took in account Fuel and Living expenses, the economy would not look so good. There is a major disconect betwwen what we use as identifiers of a good economy and the way it actually is. The middle class is slipping every day. That is the group of people that actually made this country what it is. We are forming a new elite as we speak. We have a new aristocriy, and they generaly believe they are better. If you have worked the service industry lately, it is becoming self evident. Even the people that have shaped their lives like the beloved rich and living off credit cards are acting the same way. I don't think Jesus would judge you better by the material things you covet and the money you have amassed. I am sorry if i sound bitter, but i am tired of all the excuses and reasons the greedy are given. History teaches us what happens to these people. When one group pushes to hard in the wrong direction, forces come to bear and equality is restored. Such is the game.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 PM on 04/14/2008

When Jimmy Carter left office the top 1 percent got 8 percent of IRS reported income -- in 2003 their share was up to 23 percent. Some benchmarks -- at the end of Bush the Elder it was 14 percent; at the end of Bill Clinton's twp terms it was 21 percent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 04/14/2008

I'm not against wealth, per say, as it's the driving force of a capitalist system. However, no one makes wealth in a vacuum, they always do it on the backs of a myriad of others through their hard work in the system. So, I think the system should be incredibly progressive..

for income/yr in these ranges:

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 04/14/2008

So Bill Gates just did it on the backs of others that did not profit? Give me a brake, the janitor of Microsoft made millions by working there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:45 PM on 04/14/2008

Typical example. Do you get the playlist daily or once a week?

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