The Two Most Out of Touch Human Beings In America

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I submit to you that the two most out of touch elitists in America are Chris Matthews and Hillary Clinton.

Here's Matthews in the New York Times profile about him:

"I don't think people look at me as the establishment, do you?" Matthews asked me. "Am I part of the winner's circle in American life? I don't think so."

The article, of course, notes that Matthews makes $5 million a year, lives in a posh Chevy Chase house with three Mercedes, and has been a Washington insider for almost his entire life. But no, he doesn't think he's inside the establishment or part of the winner's circle.

Similarly, Clinton continues to label Barack Obama "out of touch" for saying that when people get economically crapped on by politicians and corporations, they get angry. From the confines of her mansions in Georgetown and Chappaqua, surveying her $110 million fortune and her long career as a corporate lawyer and Wal-Mart board member, Clinton expresses a "let them eat cake" attitude, apparently believing regular folks are totally happy when politicians like her champion policies like NAFTA that crush them.

Chris Matthews and Hillary Clinton -- the two most out of touch human beings in America.

 
 

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- stellanoir See Profile I'm a Fan of stellanoir

I live far below the poverty level and have a kid. I find both Matthews and Clinton entirely disingenuous.

He has no earned right to have a platform. She has run the most foully mismanaged poorly executed campaign in recent history.

So much for entitlement.

As a thirteenth generational American, I know that's not what America is about.

Having two families dominate the executive branch of government is just plain wrong.

Not in this land formerly lauded for it's diversity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 PM on 04/20/2008
- IndependentTogether See Profile I'm a Fan of IndependentTogether

Actually, virtually **ALL** talking heads in the MSM are out of touch. They *manufacture* outrage, they don't actually "reflect" the true outrage of real people. Case in point, they blew up the whole Bosnia and Wright stories, but these aren't issues that affect the lives of average people.

I, for one, am very happy that this story broke, even if Obama has to take an initial hit; he can handle it. It's the one time that we get to address a real issue even if it's temporarily clouded; this furor over "bitter"/"cling to" will soon give way to the reality that people have been ignored and even victimized by politicians and the MSM for years.

Specifically, Republicans have preyed on people's fears for too many years while padding their own pockets. Do you think the Buchanans, Hannitys, Dobbs's, and Limbaughs of the world are suffering like the people they manipulate? Not on your life!! They have been wickedly masterful in getting people to vote against their own interests as Obama pointed out so clearly in 2004 ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oGF3cyHE7M ).

Obama has revealed a truth that can no longer be denied. Win or lose in PA, people's bitterness and frustration will not be so easily dismissed when this dust settles.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 PM on 04/14/2008
- TheRealMacDaddy See Profile I'm a Fan of TheRealMacDaddy

As the comments on this thread are more so about the use of the Term Elitist and it is being thrown back and forth by supporters of Hillary and to a lesser extent by Obama supporters, I'd like to ad my viewpoint.

AN ELITIST IS DICK CHENEY SAYING..."SO" WHEN TOLD 68% OF AMERICANS ARE OPPOSED TO THE IRAQ WAR!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:47 PM on 04/14/2008
- OrganizersWin See Profile I'm a Fan of OrganizersWin

Paramedics in some towns in western PA make 7.30 an hour... YES, that's right, under 14K per year. Same goes for bank supervisors and other surprising occupations.
If you make 150,000 per year, I would understand that one is not necessarily 'rich' in many regards, HOWEVER, you are still sitting in the top 5% of Americans, remembering that about 4 Billion people on earth make about one dollar per day. Historically speaking, the SOL of such a person is at the top .000001% of humans who ever existed.
Most people struggle, and those who win, WIN big... as you showed.. Chris makes about 5 MIL per year. Almost everyone in media are in the top .5%, and have no clue what they are talking about. I grew up never having money, but there are communities all over America that are DESPERATELY disadvantaged, not just POOR. Drugs, bad schools, no infrastructure, no economic dev. and safety, bad criminal justice system, along with 30 yrs. of destroying manufacturing jobs... There is a deep level of poverty that is growing, while the rich are FILTHY rich... I know 14 people with college degrees and no job... what's new!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 04/14/2008
- HeevenSteven See Profile I'm a Fan of HeevenSteven

David this is ridiculous! Get real!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 04/14/2008
- altohone See Profile I'm a Fan of altohone


Some day, someone should expose how the talking points are disseminated.

We know that the script readers aren't the same as the script wirters, but the process by which the tele-prompter gets filled with the same words in all the various corporate media studios would be intriguing to learn about.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 04/14/2008
- jfor See Profile I'm a Fan of jfor

Nice choice, maybe these two can "hook up" and create the next generation of coal miners.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:24 PM on 04/14/2008
- Desiderata See Profile I'm a Fan of Desiderata

Don't forget that Tucker Carlson. O, wait. His show's been canceled and he has been "outsourced" to provide brief commentary on some of the other MSNBC shows.

How humbling of the mighty one that must be.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 04/14/2008
- ljsfolly See Profile I'm a Fan of ljsfolly

When Hillary declared her run for president she had already declared herself the winner or have people forgot that? She was already getting her positions straight and was running like she was the nominee. Then came Obama and she has looked down her nose at him since. How dare a newbie, someone not from a long time washington family challenge her, the queen of us all? She has held such distain for Barack she has had issues with even saying his name have you noticed? Anything he has said or done she did before him or she claims he did something that she did to get him into trouble. Like with Bosnia and Ireland she has lied like we are stupid and there is not proof of her lies. With NAFTA the very people that lost homes/jobs/school are the ones she has pandered for the votes and they follow like sheep. She the great cheeleader for NAFTA lied about it when face to face with those who lost the most. All the while hubby Bill is still selling out the country for money and giving companies and jobs the way out of the US. Go figure. So many people were dumb enough to vote for bush and they will be dumb enough to vote for her no matter what they lose. At least she is white as far as they think and she has a name they know and remember the 90's. The 90's won't be back folks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 04/14/2008
- 1dogs2 See Profile I'm a Fan of 1dogs2

Come on, David. Surely they're not more out of touch than Bush and Cheney?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 PM on 04/14/2008
- Durango See Profile I'm a Fan of Durango

Stupidity passes for political discourse in modern America. And Chris Mathews is one of the prime practioners.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 04/14/2008
- Disparaged See Profile I'm a Fan of Disparaged

The primary problem with HRC and Matthews is that too many American people are just too stupid or ignorant not to see them as elitists and not to see how TRANSPARENT they are as people. I just don't get it - how can so many people be so damned blind, deaf and dumb? (I am NOT by any means saying that the "legally" blind, deaf or mentally challanged people are in any way like those referenced in my previous statement.) I am asking why so many people in this country are wearing blinders and earplugs when they see or hear HRC and McCain so as not to actually SEE how transparent, inept and ill-advised they are as the "usual politician who promises so much and gives nothing". I simply don't understand when they have someone who is truthful and honest in Barack and yet they seem not to hear or see him when he is not "just a promise", but someone who will back up his words if given a chance! It is so horribly frustrating and I truly am disparaged!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 PM on 04/14/2008
- northeast73 See Profile I'm a Fan of northeast73

HAVING MONEY does not make you eltist.

Its about an ATTITUDE, which Obama (and his supporters) posesses in spades.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 PM on 04/14/2008
- jfor See Profile I'm a Fan of jfor

Riiiiiight, seven thousand dollar shower curtains are for normal people. Can you change your name to southeast? Your not representing us very well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 04/14/2008
- 4wehttam See Profile I'm a Fan of 4wehttam

Obama is the one with the attitude??? So he's got an attitude because he DARES to defend himself? He DARES to be confident? He DARES to be honest? He DARES to have more delegates, more states won and more popular votes? He DARES to beat Clinton when he's a black man that came from nowhere and she is the established elite? He DARES to challenge the status quo?

Yeah, if that is ATTITUDE, Where the hell do I sign up.................my pen is ready to go.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 04/14/2008
- SeriousBlack See Profile I'm a Fan of SeriousBlack

Well said 4wehttam!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 PM on 04/14/2008
- StephenJK See Profile I'm a Fan of StephenJK

I couldn't have said it better. I should just give you my thoughts and you put them on the screen. I'm terrible with this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 PM on 04/14/2008
- Disparaged See Profile I'm a Fan of Disparaged

You are one of those "deaf, dumb and blind" people I just commented on. I'm certain that you are not "legally" deaf, mentally challanged, or blind" people, but most definitely ignorant because Obama's supporters do NOT have attitudes; we have ears to listen and actually hear what he says, eyes to see that he means what he says since he is not transparent like HRC and McLame, and we are NOT mentally challenged because we understand exactly what he says and does. That is NOT ATTITUDE. We are just informed and that makes us smart. Do your research and then maybe you might understand!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 PM on 04/14/2008
- TexasDem0 See Profile I'm a Fan of TexasDem0

The two most out of touch people in America are:
1) The delusional fool, who thinks God talks to him and through him, acts as if has papal infallibility multiplied by 100, hides from real public discourse, and believes that history will view his disastrous and openly criminal administration favorably.
2) The Republican party supporter who cheers the party whose policies favor the ultra-rich and no one else; cheers for war, but does not enlist; cheers for policies that gave us gasoline approaching $4 per gallon; cheers as our Constitution is trashed; cheers as the administration illegally spies on us; cheers in endless blissful ignorance as the party acts against their own best interest.

Chris Matthews is a close runner up. How is it that highly paid TV personalities only need to be opinionated, ignorant, and rude?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 PM on 04/14/2008
- Bluedog12 See Profile I'm a Fan of Bluedog12

One can only be out of touch if they were in touch first.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 PM on 04/14/2008
- Rescisco See Profile I'm a Fan of Rescisco

Yes. All politicians, and all media elites, are "out of touch." More to the point, they are all (to varying degrees) creations of the corporate power structure that is systematically destroying the middle class in the name of obscene profit. Some, such as Senator Obama perhaps, retain a shred of human decency and real compassion, but all of them are corporate water carriers in the end. They are fighting (yes the diferences matter on some less than systemic level) on the safe margins of issues and are careful not to disturb the comfort or the economic power of the corporate masters they serve. Getting us to debate the merits of their "servants" is a means of distracting us from fixing a gaze on the true evil in our midst. Our politics is about shadows producing empty images and false hopes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 PM on 04/14/2008
- ChimesOfFreedom See Profile I'm a Fan of ChimesOfFreedom

This type of over-generalization is not just useless, it's counter-productive. Surely there are many politicians who are "out of touch," whatever that means, and it is likely true as well that the longer they've been in office, the more out of touch they are. But to lump all politicians together this way does a great disservice to the ones who genuinely are in touch with the people and engaged in doing the people's business. This only contributes to the cynicism that cripples us today.

If your representatives disappoint you, as mine frequently do, then seek out the good ones and offer them some encouragement. There are such politicians out there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 04/14/2008
- StephenJK See Profile I'm a Fan of StephenJK

What, in regards to the way our government is run, is there not to be cynical about? It's a circus of a joke.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 04/14/2008
- Fabienne See Profile I'm a Fan of Fabienne

When Edwards was in the Senate, he voted FOR everything he says he is against, including the war, the Patriot Act, and tax cuts for the wealthy. He has a house with 11 bedrooms, which is his right, but somehow I don't quite believe what he says.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 PM on 04/14/2008
- giachi See Profile I'm a Fan of giachi

I completely agree with you about Edwards...and those are the reasons I never liked or supported him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 PM on 04/14/2008
- MPeter See Profile I'm a Fan of MPeter

Hillary, Bill and their Washington hang-ons like the smammy Carville think it is Obama rather than them; members of the skyhigh club who charges hundreds of thousands making speeches and helping crooked politicians rig elections. They are all scared because the Obama generation is about to rewrite the rules of the game in Washington.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 PM on 04/14/2008
- Moose49 See Profile I'm a Fan of Moose49

Indeed they are. Unfortunately, so is most of the rest of the mainstream media. And what passes for political discourse in this country is mind-bogglingly moronic. We need more people like you filling our op-ed pages and fewer George Wills, Jim Hoaglands, David Broders, Robert Novaks, Bill Kristols and all the other out-of-touch pompous elitists who have deluded themselves into thinking they have their finger on the pulse of the American voter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 PM on 04/14/2008
- jdbid1 See Profile I'm a Fan of jdbid1

Not long ago, Matthews made fun of a guest who suggested that it cost $80 to fill up a tank of gas. It's obvious he hasn't been to a gas station lately. Not only is he out of touch, he is a phony.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 PM on 04/14/2008
- StephenJK See Profile I'm a Fan of StephenJK

First you exaggerate how much she's made in the past like 9 years by saying 110M. Everyone knows her and Bill made 109 million dollars over that period of time. I don't care what she and Bill have made in $$$. They write books. Bill speaks and people pay. He lobbies and people pay. Big effing deal.

Second, what they hell do I care how Chris Matthews is viewed by mainstream Americans? Why should I care. I know the guy has a few different TV laughathons. I know he makes a decent bit of scratch. I couldn't care less.

Third of all, I think almost every single politician in Washington is out of touch with us peasants in mainstream America. Just because Barack "Your Savior" Obama uttered something while his foot was firmly planted in his diaphragm doesn't give you or anyone else the right to tell me who is in touch and who is out of touch with me and my fellow Americans. We know who has our back. We know who is clueless. You might just be included in that last group. IDK.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 PM on 04/14/2008
- IndependentTogether See Profile I'm a Fan of IndependentTogether

I can't say that I understand what you're getting at, but if you think that Obama is out of touch then you haven't been paying attention. If you really want to understand the full context of Obama's SF remarks, you only need view this interview from 2004:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oGF3cyHE7M

Hardly elitist. Definately not "out of touch".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 PM on 04/14/2008
- nippersdad See Profile I'm a Fan of nippersdad

I am working to find a point here other than that you really don't care and are annoyed that someone else does. If you are truly as apathetic as you claim, why bother?

Who was it that "has our back" again? I missed that part of the diatribe. Please illuminate for the rest of us less brilliant peasants.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 04/14/2008
- StephenJK See Profile I'm a Fan of StephenJK

I'm very apathetic to blogs like Sirota's. They are meaningless and attempt to clarify someone else's words and point of view. I think you should be asking David Sirota "why bother?". This election cycle has been rife with such driveling bullshit. I am tired of politicians and pundits telling me what I am supposed to think. What I'm supposed to say. Who I'm supposed to support. Like I said in another post; the media moguls control the message and the messengers. Nothing is more injust.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:10 PM on 04/14/2008
- LilyK See Profile I'm a Fan of LilyK

It's $109 million in 7 years, not 9. Nine years ago the Clintons were renting out the White House like it was Motel 6.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 04/14/2008
- mamak See Profile I'm a Fan of mamak

So an exaggeration of 1mil (109 instead of 110) is ...what ....earth-shattering??? asteroid falling?? sky-falling????
You have just epitomized the term BITTER. Voters (I assume) like you who could not care then should not care. Why even bother replying/commenting? Go back into the hole that you have reclused yourself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 PM on 04/14/2008
- StephenJK See Profile I'm a Fan of StephenJK

So you're annoyed with my exaggeration too huh? lol It's high comedy, this election cycle. High, high comedy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 PM on 04/14/2008
- ChimesOfFreedom See Profile I'm a Fan of ChimesOfFreedom

Okay, I'll bite - who has your back?

If you look at Obama's comments in context - especially within the context of his entire political career - it is clear the charge of elitism is pure nonsense. Coming from Hillary Clinton, whose politics are far and away more elitist than virtually anyone else running, now or in the past few months, the charge is not only nonsense, but also brazenly hypocritical.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 PM on 04/14/2008
- StephenJK See Profile I'm a Fan of StephenJK

So you believe that money and power cannot make someone into an elitist snob who loses touch with his most closely held values? Money, power and influence rarely fail to corrupt and rot the soul.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 04/14/2008
- SeriousBlack See Profile I'm a Fan of SeriousBlack

Well, thank you for restating the problem with the Clintons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 04/14/2008
- altohone See Profile I'm a Fan of altohone


I guess Nader supporters didn't want to ride the short horse today.

Or, are you just against things?
Or, are you just for those who have been more corrupted?

Forgive my ignorance, but are you arguing those with more money and power are less corrupt, or that all are corrupt and therefore the issue shouldn't be seen as decisive?

Do you have a horse in this race or are you betting against the field?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:07 PM on 04/14/2008
- beef33 See Profile I'm a Fan of beef33

Boy no kidding David. I cannot even believe the smarmy fuckhead attitude of these two. AS you say so often as it needs to be said often. It is not a "repulican or democrat" problem. It is a "washington elite sucking the blood out of the treasury and country" problem. Progressives unite. draft Edwards back into the race vote for Nader. don't drink the kool aid. The dark ages of lower standard of living and tough times are here get ready for the worst. Particularly with the power elite we have to deal with.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 PM on 04/14/2008
- capitalismisntamoral See Profile I'm a Fan of capitalismisntamoral

@beef33,
How is drafting Edwards or voting for Nader in any way realistic?

I was for Edwards way back because he was IMO the most electable. The attacks
by Coulter and her ilk when he was a distant 3rd proved how much the Repubs feared him. But that ship has sailed.

Nader isn't even worth commenting on.

Obama is pretty damn good co