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Clinton Heckled, Obama Cheered Over 'Bitter' Remarks

April 14, 2008 12:35 PM

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The Clinton and Obama campaigns clearly have one thing in common in the wake of Barack Obama's "bitter" remarks: both sides believe the incident provides their candidates with the means to go on the offensive, with Clinton working to paint Obama as "elitist" and Obama seeking to demonstrate that he is "in touch" with the needs of working-class America. It is, of course, too early to assess what lasting impact this story is going to have on the race, but the way the audience at the Alliance For American Manufacturing forum in Pittsburgh received the candidates, and reacted to the issue, will be heartening for the Obama camp. Obama, who greeted the crowd at 8:45am, raised the issue and received applause. Clinton, addressing the same crowd later in the morning, brought up the remarks and received mostly silence, with a few audible impatient jeers.

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collapse AlessandroMachi See Profile I'm a Fan of AlessandroMachi

lol, for once it would have better if Hillary had gone first, instead of speaking two hours after Obama did at the same function.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 AM on 04/18/2008
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Bill and Hillary are bitter that Obama is winning. Bill and Hillary are making the entire Democratic Party bitter. Bill and Hillary are making everybody sick by not getting out of the race when the know she cannot win. They destroyed Al Gore, John Kerry, and now they want to destroy Obama. They should become Republicans and maybe she gets a chnace to be part of the McCain ticket.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 PM on 04/17/2008
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Speaking as someone who likes Senator Obama, he did not win last night's debate and was more halting and less specific on most of the policy issues than Hillary, this one early, isolated clip notwithsanding. I watched on streaming video on 6ABC.com (not time delayed for the west ) and they also ran a simultaneous graph from a test group of undecideds who reacted with their dials. The test group graded Hillary 50%, Obama 23% which seemed about right. The Huffington Post can't be taken as a more serious news source than FOX News with it's almost comical bias in favor of their candidate -- busting him on the "bitter" comment notwithstanding!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 04/17/2008
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Obama wasn't allowed to win the debate because he was not asked anything of substance by Stephanopoulos and Gibson. There is too much deference paid to these idiots asking the questions. Both candidates shoud have ignored them and addressed the important issues that voters actually care about.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 PM on 04/17/2008
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I was almost open to your remarks until you wrote "The Huffington Post can't be taken as a more serious news source than FOX News with it's almost comical bias in favor of their candidate" You cannot be serious. And you defintely are not an Obama supporter. FOX news is the most biased station on television.

Furthermore, as far as winning the debate, ABC's own "Who Won the Debate" poll shows that the viewing audience was overwhelmingly in support of Obama. I think that little biased debate is going to work in his favor come election day. What it showed is how well he works under pressure. He is unmoved unlike McCain that will loose his cool at the drop of a hat. I think I will take calm and collected over irrational and moody anyday.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 PM on 04/17/2008
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Hey Emperorsclothes-
Yeah, right. ou're an Obama supporter. Only if you spell his last name "O'Reilley."

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 04/18/2008
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This is hilarious. First of all they're not "jeering" because they disagree so much with her statement as they don't want anyone to talk about their guy in a negative light, that's not allowed, you see. (The truth is many people were indeed a little insulted by what he said). Second of all, the most recent Obama ad in PA showed that very clip and enhanced the sound of the "jeers" I would say by THREE times. And then it talked about how that wasn't going to fix the rising gas prices and the economic downturn, and then actually showed footage of him talking about "distraction."

Another ad that came after the news erupted about the comments he made didn't show his face at all. Instead his campaign sent Sen. Bob Casey to make his case.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 PM on 04/17/2008
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Oh yes they did disagree, my sister was there.. Don't go there!!! You are lying!!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 PM on 04/17/2008
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I wasn't questioning the existence of the jeers; I was questioning the motivations behind them. Learn how to read.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 PM on 04/17/2008
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I was there and I didn't disagree so I guess that makes you a liar?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 PM on 04/17/2008
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Hillary is such a shrew there's small wonder that Bill wanders.

Barack Obama's "bitter" remarks were right on target; but, he missed stating what is becoming more obvious. Which is that American voters would rather "cling" to masochism than to search their souls for what they truly believe. The way of the masochist is to accept abuse just so they can claim pity for their deprived condition. Politicians know demographics very well, which is why they make promises they can never keep. The truth is a bitter pill, and masochists would rather hear anything else but the truth. They are easily mesmerized by anything that sounds like they're about to get screwed. That's why the old saying..."voters always get exactly what they deserve!"

It is the voter that creates an atmosphere where their politicians are dishonest. If the politicians were truthful who would vote for them? So, we go from voting cycle to voting cycle dwelling on personalities and appearances; and, ignore substance. That's exactly what Barack Obama has been trying to say; but, our desire to get screwed won't let us hear.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 04/17/2008
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thank you for your honesty. There were just a few "no"s. You wouldn't know this from Obama's counterattack ad wherein he altered the soundtrack dramatically to increase the volume of the so called "jeers" which were really just a few "no"s.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0408/Obama_Represent.html

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 AM on 04/17/2008
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Lets not forget,.. that is was old man Bush, that drew up the NAFTA deal, and it was Bill Clinton that passed it and the most favored nation treaty with Communist China, throwing millions of middle class factory workers out of good paying jobs.
Proving that Bill Clinton was the "Manchurian Candidate" and a Republican, too.
Then the monkey pushed more trade deals on us.
Hillary will continue to make this a one world government, with more trade deals, once elected. Unions have gone from 33% to 7%,..... thanks to these two families!
In the past recessions, the government cut taxes and the Federal Reserve cut interest rates to get the people to buy, thus causing the factories to re-hire it's laid off workers and hire new employees, this would bring the recession to an end.
Now take the factories out of the equation, they have gone to Communist China.
This will be a depression , not a recession, thanks to the Bush and Clinton families!
All three candidates are members of the CFR!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 04/17/2008
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When a factory moves to another country, it is not just the factory workers that loose, there are other people that service that factory, that loose, there are other businesses that count on the wages of those employees, that also loose.
Yet the government says they will re-train those who lost their jobs to another country. But that does not include those that were not directly on the payroll of the factory.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 AM on 04/17/2008
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please tell me how we deal with this sort of thing?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOYcM1z5fTs

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 AM on 04/17/2008
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Of course she was jeered. Dems are a rude lot. If you don't agree with them, then you should be silenced.
I couldn't disagree with Clinton more, but were I to be in her presence, I would at least be civil and courteous to her. Far left libs are the most hateful people I have ever met. Makes my evil conservative side giggle. :o)

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 PM on 04/16/2008
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Political discourse or should I say intercourse in this country has never been polite. Several months ago I remember how some of our conservative opponents were saying that liberals could not win because they did not now how to fight in a political campaign.

Now that it looks like your septugenarian Bush Lite candidate is likely to get his a$$ kicked in the upcoming election the Democrats are the thugs and louts.

So spare me your disingenuous and hypocritical critique of political discourse on my "side" of the political spectrum. Spare me your genralization and labeling of all liberals. You know nothing about what all liberals feel or believe anymore than I know what all conservatives feel or believe.

Your critique is that of an adolescent, your ignorance evident to all.

Was that loutish and rude enough for you?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 AM on 04/17/2008
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You can be spared the critique but the characteristic of ad hominem attack (your comment is a fine example), disruptive behavior and even assault of those with whom liberals disagree is well known and a matter of fact.

Objectively speaking, it's fair to say, the septuagenarian is doing quite well while the democrats beat the hell out of one another. Additionally, it must be very heartening for him to learn that as many as 30% of democratic voters will switch to him should their candidate not be the nominee.

And yes, you did just fine. Your comment was just as loutish and rude as one might expect.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 AM on 04/17/2008
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You"re right. Republicans are NEVER rude to people with whom they disagree.

It's a good thing they don't follow in Boss Cheney's footsteps and tell their opponents to go fuck themselves.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 AM on 04/17/2008
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There's a big difference being heard to say, one-on-one, go F*** yourself and the everyday disgracefull and very public behavior of the left.

When was the last time you heard of conservative students shouting down a liberal speaker at a college? When was the last time you heard of conservative students rushing the stage or throwing a pie in the face of a liberal speaker? When was the last time you heard of a group of conservative men dressing up as nuns and disrupting a religious service because they disagree with the religion's precepts?

Liberals love to say "because he deserved it"

Most Americans see liberalism as self-centered and loutish.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 AM on 04/17/2008
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Redrover666 is claiming to speak for "most Americans" and has nothing but his personal bias to back that up.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 PM on 04/17/2008
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No... Actually, the fact that most Americans voted for a Republican president and the only group more despised than the president is the democratic congress, speaks for itself.

To the point of liberal behavior. You don't really think regular, descent people approve of loutish, stupid behavior, do you? If so, you need to get out more.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 04/17/2008
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So you think "liberals" have cornered rudeness and shouting down guests that they don't agree with?

What, you don't get Fox in your neck of the woods?

You didn't see the "Swift Boat" people?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 AM on 04/17/2008
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I don't see your point in either example.

FOX regularly hosts guests who vigorously debate one another and frequently become loud and animated, even angry. That is not the same as enlightened university students silencing or assaulting someone because they disagree with their opinion.

The swift boat people didn't harm or silence anyone. They very effectively ran a counter campaign against a politician they didn't like... and it worked.

The media is (by it's own standards) overwhelmingly liberal. That liberals despise FOX doesn't surprise me. Though you should take note that most Americans prefer to get their news and opinion there.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 AM on 04/17/2008
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Once again the all-knowing Redroverr666 claims to know what " most Americans prefer".

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 PM on 04/17/2008
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Actually, viewer numbers are a matter of public record.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 04/17/2008
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That is exactly why you occasionally get the 'pie in the face'. The 'right' is well organized with lots of money to run their campaigns and their opponents into the ground. The grass-roots people, out of frustration over this 'right wing agenda' must (sadly) resort to pies. The republicans don't get angry, they organize and get even. That's the only thing they have over the Dems and they use it very well.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 AM on 04/17/2008
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Was that comment a joke or spoof?

Are you actually saying that democrats have to throw pies because they lack the ability of republicans to organize and don't have enough money?

Are you saying that an invited quest to an ivy league university is the victim of assault because those poor, rich little liberal students have no reasonable means of expressing themselves?

Republicans are the people who live next door to you!

What the hell is wrong with you!?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 04/17/2008
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I'm amazed that you know the political leanings of everyone who opposes and protests everything from clergy sex abuse to
NAFTA, and that they are all- surprise!- radical liberal lefties!

I've been in the presence of speakers booed by conservative students at my liberal university, so I don't think jeering and booing belongs exclusively to one side of the political spectrum.

And to say that "most Americans" wanted GWB in office is to have a fairly liberal (if not wishful) definition of "most." Do you really think 51-49% constitutes overwhelming support?

And if you want to hear evidence of rude conservatives, I suggest you surf AM radio. But I suspect you already spend quite a bit of time there.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 PM on 04/18/2008
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Thanks for the support Rover. My point has been made several times in this string. Just wind em up and watch em go. ;o)

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:06 PM on 04/19/2008
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Hi, ErikW65, and others it may concern: I checked the votes on the 2005 energy bill in the Congressional Library records, which can be linked through c-span.org. Sen. Clinton did not vote, and Sen. Obama voted yes for cloture, to end the DEBATE on H.R. 6. However, on the final vote to clear it to be sent to Pres. Bush for signature, which was a vote on the Energy Policy Act of 2005, both Sen. Durbin and Obama of ILlinois voted 'yes'. But both Sen. Clinton and Sen. Chuck Schumer of New York voted 'no'. Thank you for your attention.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:33 PM on 04/16/2008
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CLINTON CAMPAIGN USING SUBLIMANAL ADVERTISING?

Someone please find the ad that quickly follows last nights Boston Legal. For a split second the screen appears blue and the name "Hillary Clinton" comes to screen with a commentator promptly stating "Clinton"

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:05 PM on 04/16/2008
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Maybe if Hillary spoke with an Arkansas accent people would be more willing to listen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exsmFDYyK4U&eurl

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 PM on 04/16/2008
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The bitter comments apply to "some" rural folks and not a blanket portrayal of all rural folks. While it is true that majority of the people in rural areas value religion and owning guns as values and integral part of their lives they still focus on other issues like economy ,social issues,environment and immigation in a positive way.However people who lose their jobs and have not been able to find alternative jobs or get any help to improve their lives from the Government irrespective of the party in power become dejected and look to find solace in joining groups which tout traditonal life style issues like gun rights and religious issues.They start to focus on issues like gun rights,gaymarriage, immigration which are important to them,but unfotunately do not help them economically while it serves well the Republican party which exploits their support to come to power. What Obama was referring to was this kind of exploitaion. Unless these folks rise above being a single issue voter and focus on pressing issues Life will continue to be bad as it is.The election is not about electing someone who will make lifestyle better; it is about electing some one who will make life better.

The intent of Obama was not be condescending on traditonal values,but the recogniton people are vulnerable in their anger having been ignored for years that they get exploited and the need to gain thier support to effectively change thier lives.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 PM on 04/16/2008
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Congress is in charge of the purse not the President, who had the majority in the House & Senate (the purse) for over 50 years? The Democrats. Why in over all those years have they not gotten that accomplished? Obama loves Change sure he loves change and can't wait to reach into your pockets for all of your $$$$chang$$$$ Cha-ching!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 PM on 04/16/2008
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nice try.
I don't know if "elitist" is the proper word for Mr.Obama. But his comments revealed something about him that is uncomfortable. He hasn't explained yet why his supporters at that fund raiser in San Francisco were laughing at his comments. Watch the video at the link below, ask yourself what was so funny?

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0408/Vide o_from_San_Francisco.html

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:44 PM on 04/16/2008
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CRABBY IS SUFFERING FROM WHIPLASH DUE TO THE daily contradictory stories on the race between Democratic presidential candidates Senators Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. To wit, a sample of headlines:

"Obama Surges on Electability, Challenges Clinton on Leadership"
"Poll Shows Obama Ahead as Candidate Dems See as Most Likely to Win in November" -- From ABC News online, April 16, 2008.

"Quinnipiac Poll: Clinton Has Stopped Obama Momentum In Pennsylvania"
From The Moderate Voice, which describes itself as a "moderate" online political website.

"Obama moves to largest lea