Jason Linkins

BIO

Jason Linkins

The Huffington Post

At Compassion Forum, Guest Questioners Outshine Media Pros

stumble digg reddit del.ico.us news trust mixx.com

April 14, 2008 05:37 PM


Show your support.
Buzz this article up.

One couldn't be blamed for taking a pass on watching CNN's latest candidate face-off event, its so-called "Compassion Forum," which was broadcast last night. After all, it's not as if either of the democratic candidates had staked out a strong, anti-compassion position. But as goofy as the idea sounded on paper - and, let's face it, it is indeed "goofy" to characterize a debate on religion and morality with the safe-word "compassion" - in practice, it was an altogether different animal. The candidates received probing questions with depth and breadth, that spoke to key issues of the here and now as well as larger philosophical matters. In fact, the only problem with the forum is that none of the good questions were posed by members of the professional media.

CNN's own Campbell Brown - who nearly caused me permanent eye-roll damage after asking Senator Hillary Clinton to explain what the "boys club" was - was joined by Newsweek editor John Meacham, as well as a diverse panel of "faith leaders from around the country." Over the course of the forum, the latter group of interlocutors thoroughly outclassed Meacham and Brown. Frankly, the differences between the guests and the professionals was often so vast, that one couldn't help but feel embarrassed.

Here's a sampling of the questions posed by the various guests:

RABBI STEVE GUTOW, JEWISH COUNCIL FOR PUBLIC AFFAIRS: Back to China. China has continued to persecute and subject to oppression, the people of Tibet. It continues to be the largest supplier of weapons to Sudan and the largest purchaser of its oil. Let's just say China is not doing all it can to stop the genocide in Darfur. You have said that America needs to return to being a moral voice of the world. Is our participation in the Beijing Olympics harmful to that moral voice?


REV. WILLIAM J. SHAW, NATIONAL BAPTIST CONVENTION: Senator. Current U.S. policies toward developing countries -- trade policies, make it sometimes extremely difficult for poor people to access inexpensive, generic drugs for the treatment of AIDS and other sicknesses. How would you shape the policies of your administration to ensure that the poor would have access to and could secure the drugs that they need to improve the quality of their lives, of their families and even the future of their country?

EBOO PATEL: My name is Eboo Patel. I'm an American Muslim, and I lead an organization called the Interfaith Youth Core. And it's my privilege to watch a range of faith communities come together around the common value of compassion. Americans of all faiths and no faith at all genuinely believe in compassion and want to apply that in addressing global poverty and climate change. Can we do that without changing our standard of living?

LISA SHARON HARPER, N.Y. FAITH AND JUSTICE: Thank you. Senator...underdeveloped nations and regions that lack widespread access to education and basic resources like water, and they tend to be some of the most unstable and dangerous regions of the world. Places like Pakistan, Somalia, Sudan. Our national security is at stake, but our military is stretched. As president, would you consider committing U.S. troops to a purely humanitarian mission under the leadership of a foreign flag?

REV. SAMUEL RODRIGUEZ, PRESIDENT, NATIONAL HISPANIC LEADERSHIP CONFERENCE: Senator...the vast majority of Americans believe that abortion is a decision to be made by a woman, her family and her doctors. However, the vast majority of Americans similarly believe that abortion is the taking of a human life. The terms pro-choice and pro-life, do they encapsulate that reality in our 21st Century setting and can we find common ground?

REV. RICHARD CIZIK, VICE PRESIDENT, NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF EVANGELICALS: Frankly, there has been perceived, by many, millions, a war between science and faith. I don't believe there's a war at all. In fact, the worlds of religion and science are coming together in amazing ways, including here on this campus...How do you relate your faith our personal convictions to science generally and science policy, and let's take an issue like climate and flesh that out, or take stem cells, something like that. Just give us a little more indication of how you think.

DAVID P. GUSHEE, MERCER UNIVERSITY: Senator...recently yet another disturbing memo emerged from the Justice Department. This one said that not even interrogation methods that, quote, "shock the conscience" would be considered torture nor would they be considered illegal if they had been authorized by the president...this kind of reasoning shocks the conscience of many millions of Americans and many millions of people of faith here and around the world. Is there justification for policies on the part of our nation that permit physical and mental cruelty toward those who are in our custody?

The reconciliation of tradition with advancement, the moral ripples that extend beyond small-scope issues, the economic impacts - good and ill - of compassion, a too-too-rare question about torture...these are the queries a great nation deserves to hear asked. Broad, yet grounded. Provocative without being divisive. High degree of difficulty. And, perhaps best of all, a real ecumenicalism that doesn't break into tribalist cliches or doctrinal grandstanding.

Brown and Meacham got nowhere near this level of discourse. Their questions rarely moved beyond the sorts of hackneyed and predictable queries. Their small minded obsession with process stories and the horse race revealed itself early, as both candidates were questioned on Obama's "bitter" comment right out of the gate. But one can forgive this: it is at least, a current, and pressing obsession. From there, however, Brown and Meacham weren't able to progress beyond mawkish, silly questions about the candidates religious experiences or divisive, "wedge" issue questions that used faith as a battering ram.

Here's a sampling of Brown and Meacham's relentlessly silly queries:

BROWN: You have actually felt the presence of the Holy Spirit on many occasions. Share some of those occasions with us.


MEACHAM: Senator, do you believe personally that life begins at conception?

BROWN: Do you have a favorite Bible story?

MEACHAM: Do you believe God wants you to be president?

MEACHAM: Senator, do you believe that God intervenes in history and rewards or punishes people or nations in real time for their behavior?

BROWN: Senator, there are a lot of Americans who are uncomfortable with the conversation that we're having here tonight. That they believe religion already has way too much influence in political life and public life. How do you reassure them?

But the priceless and impeccable stupidity of the professional media caste can best be seen in this exchange.

MEACHAM: Senator, we've heard about HIV/AIDS. Many people here are concerned about Darfur and a number of other humanitarian issues. Why do you think it is that a loving God allows innocent people to suffer?


CLINTON: Well...

(LAUGHTER)

MEACHAM: And we just have 30 seconds.

Oy, gevalt!

 
 

Comments
79
Pending Comments
0

Want to reply to a comment? Hint: Click "Reply" at the bottom of the comment; after being approved your comment will appear directly underneath the comment you replied to

View Comments:
Page: 1 2 Next › Last » (2 pages total)
- BeerHolder See Profile I'm a Fan of BeerHolder permalink

Get this shit out of the political arena! I am so sick of this God bullshit being tossed up like it should determine the outcome of the election.

"Does god want you to be president?" How absurd is that? What are you supposed to say? Hell No!? Sure, God came down from a cloud and told me I had to win or he would kill me and send me to hell.

I wish one of the candidates had given that answer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 AM on 04/16/2008
- Mattjoe See Profile I'm a Fan of Mattjoe permalink

What should worry Americans more than what the candidates" favorite bible story was..... is the fact that Republican Geoff Davis is actually participating in a "highly classified, national security simulations".

The same sheep that accept this baseless conclusion - along with the "bitter" sham - are those that also believe the answer to "do you believe God created the world in 7 days?" on CNN's ill-fated "Compassion Circus" garners vital data from which to place a vote.

For Christ sake people!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 PM on 04/15/2008
- MizJ See Profile I'm a Fan of MizJ permalink

I won't be satisfied until I know which candidate was holier than thou enough to be sent to the White House. You would never suspect that we operate under the illusion of separation of church and state. We just had 8 years of the most duplicit, ignorant, evil president to ever serve who wrapped himself in his "love of Christ". If God truly exists he/she would have sent down a scurge on this hypocrite years ago. Enough of the religion test already. Discuss the issues!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 04/15/2008
- gtt See Profile I'm a Fan of gtt permalink

Recall Repulican primary debate of 2000 in which candidates were asked to name their favlorite political philosopher. Bush arnswered "Jesus Christ". "Political" philosoher? Did I miss something in the Bible? Christ was spiritual or religious philosopher but never political. Bush should have been laughed off the stage. But no, in the MSM this out of place pious comment was alright and in fact adopted by each of the other Republican candidates. Interesting cause for pause now that we have seen eight years of lies, war and abuse of office.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 04/16/2008
- angryoldman See Profile I'm a Fan of angryoldman permalink

The United States has turned into the "crazy uncle" that the rest of the world would love to keep locked up in the basement, but they can't because he is too big and dangerous and has all the money! We are all in a "world of shit" if this is what our experiment in democracy has degenerated into.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 AM on 04/15/2008
- scorpioleidy See Profile I'm a Fan of scorpioleidy permalink

When I found out Campbell Brown was moderating this discussion/forum, I decided not to watch it. Campbell is pretty, and she seems like a bright woman --- but I had more respect for her when she was doing the weekend Today show because I don't consider her the hard-hitting-journalist-who-asks-the-tough-questions "type" (a la Chris Matthews). What's happened to her????? She used to be SO much better years ago ... now I either laugh when I watch her on CNN (usually asking the most asinine questions imaginable) ... or I just switch over to MSNBC.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 04/15/2008
- MiddleRoad1 See Profile I'm a Fan of MiddleRoad1 permalink

I turned off the TV after Olbermann. I rarely watch CNN, but yesterday I had had my fill of politics. I was sick of the 24 hour coverage of a comment by Obama while ignoring much much more serious issues which actually affect us. I am tired of the media.
I had a great night's sleep. I suggest you all do the same. Believe me, the shrieking w*tch will still be here when you return.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 AM on 04/15/2008
- txgal44 See Profile I'm a Fan of txgal44 permalink

You are sooo right!!! I'm so sick and tired of the media, CNN, MSNBC!!! The same shit over and over and over and over again!! I can't do it anymore. My TV is off!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:20 PM on 04/15/2008
- majseventh See Profile I'm a Fan of majseventh permalink

The whole thing was horrible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:47 AM on 04/15/2008
- Durango See Profile I'm a Fan of Durango permalink

Anyone who thinks God wants him/her to be president is unfit to be president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 AM on 04/15/2008
- presto See Profile I'm a Fan of presto permalink

So did you hear the answers?

Hillary said that if she wanted to be glib she would say "We'll find out" - then went on to say that she seriously doubted God was taking sides in this race.

Obama said that when he wins, he and God will be collabortors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 PM on 04/15/2008
- JackG See Profile I'm a Fan of JackG permalink

That's not true. George W Bush thinks that God wanted him to be President.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 AM on 04/15/2008
- uheardme See Profile I'm a Fan of uheardme permalink

Amen. Next some fool will tell people that Jesus told him to invade IRAQ to spread the word.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 AM on 04/15/2008
- Durango See Profile I'm a Fan of Durango permalink

Satan works in mysterious ways, doesn't he?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 AM on 04/15/2008
- Manx See Profile I'm a Fan of Manx permalink

Brown and Meacham's questions sound like something one would read in People magazine. But in all fairness, their producers probably put them up to it. It is disappoiinting and sad to see CNN go tabloid. CNN has the potential to lead the way and raise journalistic standards for cable but as they compete with FOX and MSNBC for ratings, their standards will continue to sink and wind up in the toilet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 AM on 04/15/2008
- GeoLee See Profile I'm a Fan of GeoLee permalink

I find it offensive that any candidate for the political leadership of our government has to pass religious litmus tests in order to be elected. The candidate is not being elected God or the Pope. By our current standards, one of our greatest men in the history of the US would never have been elected our third president. And, no, I am not an athiest nor an agnostic and I do attend church quite regularly , so don't classify me as left wing liberal non religious person. I just happen to believe one of the wonderful things about our Constitution is the fact that it says what it does about religion. A separation of church and state actually enhances our democracy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 AM on 04/15/2008
- victoriajubilee See Profile I'm a Fan of victoriajubilee permalink

Jason you hit it on the mark ,my thoughts were the same. The guests were on top of it with their questions ,they were dignified and friendly. On the other hand Cambell Brown and that other gentleman asked some silly questions . It made them look petty,they started off with the "bitter" controversy and the just got plain stupid, "Do you think God wants you to be President " "Does got take sides in a war " It sounded like questions I would ask my mother when I was eight years old. Lol I remember when i was around seven i asked my mom " mom does the queen fart?" It almost sounded like that last night.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 04/14/2008
- handymanhdw See Profile I'm a Fan of handymanhdw permalink

What's with that title? DOES GOD "WANTS" YOU TO BE PRESIDENT?
FOR LITTLE BUSHES SAKE.... CAN SOME ONE PROOF READ? SHOWS ME WHAT CHANNEL I'M ON....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 PM on 04/14/2008
- andhakari See Profile I'm a Fan of andhakari permalink

You forgot to turn off your "Caps Lock" button.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 AM on 04/15/2008
- HumeSkeptic See Profile I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic permalink


This was possibly the most idiotic program I ever watched. Disgusting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 PM on 04/14/2008
- TN See Profile I'm a Fan of TN permalink

It is bull shit to ask hillary how she handled the affair bill had. That is her private business. I can not imagine the pain and humilliation she has already suffered. It is nobodys f##king business. What kind of pig would put her through any more of that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 PM on 04/14/2008
- txgal44 See Profile I'm a Fan of txgal44 permalink

TN, it's called karma.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:23 PM on 04/15/2008
- TekTami78 See Profile I'm a Fan of TekTami78 permalink

Hillary could have left Bill...in fact, I would have had MUCH more respect for her if she had. But she didn't leave him. She had a budding political career to consider, after all...

There is no such thing as a candidate's own private business when running for President. Ask Gary Hart about that one. If she didn't want to be asked about it, she shouldn't run for President, it's that easy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 04/15/2008
- MariaHopeful See Profile I'm a Fan of MariaHopeful permalink

TN, I felt for the woman during her time of crisis. I could have wept for her as she, with shades on, walked with Bill Clinton with their quite obvious peace-making (and uniting force) daughter Chelsea between them. I felt her pain and humiliation. No woman should have had to deal with that. At the same time even without excusing the immoral behavior of Bill Clinton, I was outraged at the media for attacking him the way they did. Now?! They deserved everything they freaking got! They have proven themselves to be unethical, Rovian and even racists. Oh, how I feel betrayed! They were never worthy of my loyalty. I find them to be totally disgusting. Did you see the little act from Bill Clinton about everywhere he went, people were telling him that they weren't bitter? Disgusting!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 AM on 04/15/2008
- ireland See Profile I'm a Fan of ireland permalink

i'm thrilled she was cheated on but not sure she was hurt by it, humiliated yes, but not hurt, that woman is incapable of feeling anything....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 AM on 04/15/2008
- presto See Profile I'm a Fan of presto permalink

Wow - you get your thrills from other's pain. And then you trash them for it. Your decency is overpowering.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 04/15/2008
- highlighter See Profile I'm a Fan of highlighter permalink

ouch yo, just, ouch

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 AM on 04/15/2008
- longislandlol See Profile I'm a Fan of longislandlol permalink

I am Jewish- and I loved last night's forum- it was in good taste- and ethics and religion are something to be proud of- we should not knock these forums -- it is elitist to do so and will hurt the dems chances -

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 PM on 04/14/2008
- presto See Profile I'm a Fan of presto permalink

I liked it too - it was one of the few times we have been able to see the candidates go into detail on anything at all. I thought both did well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 PM on 04/15/2008
- ireland See Profile I'm a Fan of ireland permalink

yes we should if we are knocked for not watching them...i'm an agnostic and think religious people are the most hypocritcal folks out there and condemn non believers...u know we have rights too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 AM on 04/15/2008
- presto See Profile I'm a Fan of presto permalink

Apparently you do have rights - and they trump everybody else's rights. "Agnostic" implies that you do not know the answers. But, obviously, you do so maybe you need another label.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 PM on 04/15/2008
- andhakari See Profile I'm a Fan of andhakari permalink

Thankyou Sen. Lieberman. Your guidance is, as always, appreciated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 AM on 04/15/2008
- harriscrl3 See Profile I'm a Fan of harriscrl3 permalink

It didnt seem to reflect as elitist on John McCain and he didnt show up. I did like the forum but Campell and that other person's question was compeletely unnecessary and frankly sort of silly in light of the other questions like torture religion and science. I dont know that its religion perse that is needed in Washington but ethics and morality is definitely needed along with the constituion that Bush apparently tossed out when he moved in.

Carol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 AM on 04/15