Male Sex Hormone May Affect Stock Trades

RANDOLPH E. SCHMID | April 14, 2008 10:00 PM EST | AP

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WASHINGTON — The hormone that drives male aggression and sexual interest also seems able to boost short term success at finance. But what seems to start out well can turn bad, with elevated testosterone levels over several days possibly leading to irrational risk-taking, according to researchers at the University of Cambridge in England.

"If people want to get practical, it would be good for both banks and the financial system as a whole if we had more women and older men in the markets," said John M. Coates, lead author of a study appearing in this week's issue of Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

Such a change would produce a much more stable financial system, said Coates, a research fellow in the university's department of physiology, development and neuroscience.

Coates and Joe Herbert studied male financial traders in London, taking saliva samples in the morning and evening. They found that levels of two hormones, testosterone and cortisol, affected traders.

Those with higher levels of testosterone in the morning were more likely to make an unusually big profit that day, the researchers found.

Testosterone, best known as the male sex hormone, affects aggression, confidence and risk-taking.

Cortisol is tied to uncertainty, novelty and unpredictability, "which pretty much describes a trader's life," Coates said in a telephone interview.

Coates and Herbert's study comes less than two weeks after U.S. researchers reported that young men shown erotic pictures were more likely to make a larger financial gamble than if they were shown a picture of something scary, such as a snake, or something neutral, such as a stapler.

Money and women trigger the same brain area in men, those researchers said.

One member of that team, Camelia Kuhnen, an assistant professor at the Kellogg School of Finance at Northwestern University, said Coates and Herbert's findings "are very interesting and they help support the claim that emotion influences financial decisions."

But she cautioned that the findings don't prove a causal link between testosterone and profitability.

Kuhnen, who was not part of Coates and Herbert's team, termed the idea that long-term high testosterone levels can lead to irrational risk-taking "an interesting hypothesis."

Coates said he worked as a Wall Street trader during the dot.com bubble in the 1990s when millions of dollars were invested in new Internet companies, many of which later collapsed.

He said trader behavior he observed didn't make sense in terms of economic or game theory, "everyone seemed to be on a drug."

Even in airport bars the crowd would be ignoring baseball to watch and cheer financial reports on television, Coates said.

That prompted him to begin a study of the behavior, which didn't seem to affect women.

In hormone research there is the "winner model," based on both human and animal activity, in which competitors have rising testosterone levels. When one wins, his hormone levels increase even more, while they fall in the loser.

That can give the winner an advantage in aggression and risk-taking in the next competition, a positive feedback, he explained. But after a while the effect overreaches and the male begins making stupid decisions.

"I wondered if that was what was going on in the financial markets," he said.

The London study indicated that hormone levels in the traders were both responding to financial events and influencing them.

Their conclusion:

"Cortisol is likely, therefore, to rise in a market crash and, by increasing risk aversion, to exaggerate the market's downward movement. Testosterone, on the other hand, is likely to rise in a bubble and, by increasing risk taking, to exaggerate the market's upward movement."

And that, Coates and Herbert wrote, "may help explain why people caught in bubbles and crashes often find it difficult to make rational choices."

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This only proves what women already knew to be true. Men are most definitely emotional and hormonal. It's that time of the month guys!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 PM on 04/15/2008

Gee, ya think? There's way too much testosterone making disasterous decisions in this world Uber-masculinity with no feminine balance, got to have a balance! Yin and yang; paternal AND maternal.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 04/15/2008

Hormones affect behaviour?!?! Who wouldda think it!!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 AM on 04/15/2008

Yeah, this is news???

and they call us hormonal....Men don't have a time of the month because it is their constant state of being. They are such testosterone victims.

Then again, we are all physical beings, not some wispy souls.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 AM on 04/15/2008

Yea Yea nobody's got the real driver like Pope Ratzinger who has booked his ticket to Washington ,absurd? well.the stocks have penetrated thier interests too far deep past grassroot level in countries that means a population controller like Vatican is as good as a martial law in Washington a place where 'poor' ' junglee's' should be prohibited...............................RRRRRaaatzzzinGerrr!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:00 AM on 04/15/2008

POPE RATSO IS BUSH'S KIND OF GUY...

Bush is probably looking to get some inside tips from a former Nazi....

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 AM on 04/15/2008

The Pope was manning the antiaircraft guns while my brother was bombing the Messerschmidt aircraft assembly plant near Regensburg.

Nice to see he's sublimated his hormonal drives so nicely post-war.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 PM on 04/15/2008

Studies conclude that, while good for day-trading, a too much of an amount of testosterone can be detrimental in politics. One of the examples cited in the study's conclusion was the Howard Dean scream and how it was negatively played in the media, when, in fact, it was simply Howard's primal mating call being displayed to show his male primacy and thus his suitability as commander-in-chief. .

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:58 AM on 04/15/2008

"Male Sex Hormone May Affect Stock Trades"

I read somewhere, too, that female sex hormones may affect bitchy comments.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 AM on 04/15/2008

haha

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 AM on 04/15/2008


The link between testosterone and risk-taking is not news. ANYTHING that creates exhilaration increases testosterone production, which in turn leads to more risk-taking. Old studies exist attesting to this. If this shows anything, it is merely that some people are MORE exhilarated by the stock market, or money-making, than are others, even among those who work on Wall Street.

It makes sense that more aggressive personality types would be better suited to the cut-throat atmosphere of money-making, while others, even some who work on Wall Street, might be more dispirited by that atmosphere. Exhilaratoin increases testosterone, being dispirited increases cortisol. I hate anything related to money; I avoid dealing with money matters as much as possible. When forced to do so, I become despondent.

The idea that emotions influence financial decisions is not exactly a revelation, either. What decision is not affected by emotions? Contrary to what most believe, evidence shows that emotions occur first, and rational thought is a response to emotions. We do not have thoughts first and then respond emotionally. Since emotions are primarily controlled by hormones, I don't really see this current study as all that revealing. But I have a hard time arguing against its conclusion that more women and fewer men in the markets might make them more stable and less volatile.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 AM on 04/15/2008

How cocky...

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 AM on 04/15/2008

Well, then to save the country, start a neutering campaign, and no one is allowed inside the banks, investment houses, or the stock exchange, unless they have been relieved of all that risky hormone.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 AM on 04/15/2008

it is quite the uncontrollable urge in most males and governs much more than their actions in the stock market. Hmm, war, physical brutality, rape, religions and on and on, yadda yadda yadda. Then men are supposed to age and mellow out as their hormones begin to ravage their bodies in the form of prostate problems and the inability to function sexually, but the introduction of erection supplements keep them hard for up to hours til they drop dead. Why is it that in america you can watch one commercial after another speaking of erections of the male sex organ, but you cannot see a nipple??? "Mommy, what's an erection?" "How long is four hours?"

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 AM on 04/15/2008

I agree -- we definitely should be able to see nipples. And asses, and ...

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 AM on 04/15/2008

so men think about their finances the same way they think about their women?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 AM on 04/15/2008

you mean as a questionable investment?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 AM on 04/15/2008

Pretty much: when we're young, we make a lot and spend a lot. Later in life, even if we have less, we still give to charity.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 AM on 04/15/2008

LOL!!! OMG! Do you mind if I "borrow" this??? |;-)

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 AM on 04/15/2008

i've been scratching my head and saying this to myself for a while: it's not only the stock market but the entire economic system that has been hijacked by a particular brand of alpha males whose behavior, in its fundament, is characterized by a decided lack of love and respect for others relative to the drive (of these hegemonic types) to satisfy their own needs.

i was wondering whether anybody else saw it this way. so now there has been a study that more or less illustrates the point. a lot of people who posted here are laughing. i'm not laughing. it's an ok paradigm for sports, sure, but you can't run a successful world with peace and prosperity for all if we continue to have a lot of horny young guys, (and aging alpha males as well), dominating the game.

thank you huffington post for featuring this article. the next question is, if what this article says is true, where do we go from here?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 AM on 04/15/2008

i've been scratching my head and saying this to myself for a while: it's not only the stock market but the entire economic system that has been hijacked by a particular brand of alpha males whose behavior, in its fundament, is characterized by a decided lack of love and respect for others relative to the drive (of these hegemonic types) to satisfy their own needs.

i was wondering whether anybody else saw it this way. so now there has been a study that more or less illustrates the point. a lot of people who posted here are laughing. i'm not laughing. it's and ok paradigm for sports, sure, but you can't run a successful world peace and prosperity for all if we continue to have a lot of horny young guys, (and aging alpha males as well), dominating the game.

thank you huffington post for featuring this article. the next question is, if what this article says is true, where do we go from here?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:52 AM on 04/15/2008

I.e. people with the hormones predisposing them to risk and competition are attracted to careers involving risk and competition. Duh. And "rational decision-making" isn't part of stock trading anyway; it's entirely guesswork.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 PM on 04/14/2008

And "rational decision-making" isn't part of stock trading anyway; it's entirely guesswork.
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Not entirely. Day trading is mostly guesswork, but, if done right, long term investing does involve rational decision making.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 AM on 04/15/2008

Now that's funny! They really are a bunch of apes, aren't they?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 PM on 04/14/2008

These scientists are really busy. First they predict 'earthquake likely in California' and now this. All in one day. Kudos.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 PM on 04/14/2008

Nope. This is the kind of research we do in the morning. After lunch we're a lot more serious.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 AM on 04/15/2008

Men are such simple creatures: money, sex, sport. That's it. ;)

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 PM on 04/14/2008

Simplicity is good. It helps balance out female complexities. ;-)

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 AM on 04/15/2008

You should mention sex at least twice:money, sex,sex, sex, sex, sex, sex, sport. But, basically you are right. I was hoping to vote for a woman President this time. However, the woman we got happens to be pro-NeoCon. So, no go. Perhaps nest time around we'll get a real woman.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 AM on 04/15/2008

I think I understand what you are saying. I expected more from "women in traditionally male" positions, but, what I see are women playing by the rules the guys made, women who are just as ambitious, or corrupt, just as capable of "manly" decisions or "manly" crimes. They've got to come across as, well, tough as men. Maybe the power structure does not allow for the quiet strength that women can bring to balance the ferocity entrenched in our various institutions.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 PM on 04/15/2008

Since we're tossing around sexist stereotypes, who let you out of the kitchen long enough to learn how to use a computer?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 AM on 04/15/2008

Every time I see a footage with the floor of the Stock Exchange I wonder if these fast moving people are on crack or something. Maybe it's hormones, after all. :)

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 PM on 04/14/2008
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