Brazil Oil Field Could Be Huge Find

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ALAN CLENDENNING | April 14, 2008 09:36 PM EST | AP

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Brazil's state-run Petrobras P-40 oil platform undergoes maintenance as it floats in the Guanabara Bay of Rio de Janeiro, Brazil in this Wednesday, March 21, 2001 file photo. A deep-water exploration area off the coast of Rio de Janeiro could contain as much as 33 billion barrels of oil, according to the head of Brazil's National Petroleum Agency Haroldo Lima. (AP Photo/Douglas Engle)

SAO PAULO, Brazil — A deep-water exploration area could contain as much as 33 billion barrels of oil, an amount that would nearly triple Brazil's reserves and make the offshore bloc the world's third-largest known oil reserve, a top energy official said Monday.

National Petroleum Agency President Haroldo Lima cautioned that his information on the field off the coast of Rio de Janeiro is unofficial and needs to be confirmed _ but his comments sent shares of state-run oil company Petrobras soaring in New York and Sao Paulo.

Petrobras said in a statement that more studies are needed to determine the potential of what could be the planet's largest oil find in decades. Analysts said the magnitude of the find, if confirmed, could have far-reaching global energy ramifications.

"This would lay to rest some of the peak oil pronouncements that we were out of oil, that we weren't going to find any more and that we have to change our way of life," said Roger Read, an energy analyst and managing director at New York-based investment bank Natixis Bleichroeder Inc., which buys and sells stock in offshore drilling contractor Seadrill, a Petrobras contractor.

Lima told reporters that Petrobras "may have discovered a huge petroleum field that could contain reserves large as 33 billion barrels," amounting to the world's third-largest reserve, according to his spokesman, Luiz Fernando Manso.

His agency later issued a statement saying the comments were based on a recent report in World Oil magazine and a report last November from Brazil's Agencia Estado news agency.

Brazilian Planning Minister Paulo Bernardo declined later Monday to discuss the discovery, saying, "It's better to wait for official confirmation."

Lima's agency regulates Brazil's oil industry, and his initial comments appeared to represent confirmation of what experts have long suspected: That extremely deep exploration areas hundreds of miles off the nation's coast may hold potentially huge reserves.

Brazil's current proven oil reserves are 11.8 billion barrels, according to the U.S. Energy Department. The U.S. has 21.8 billion barrels in proven reserves.

"You're talking about a reserve the size of total U.S. reserves," said Tim Evans, an analyst with Citigroup Inc. in New York. "It's a big, big number."

If proven, the oil in the exploration area called both Carioca and Sugarloaf Mountain by analysts would also be five times larger than the Tupi oil field, whose estimated reserves of 8 billion barrels were announced by Petroleo Brasileiro SA in November. Petrobras also announced a blockbuster find of natural gas in February in an Atlantic Ocean field nicknamed Jupiter.

"More conclusive data about the potential of the discovery will only be known after the conclusion of the other phases of the evaluation process, and the market will be informed at the opportune moment," Petrobras said in its statement to Brazilian securities regulators after Lima made the comments.

While the potential Brazil find could add significant supplies to a global oil market many see as tight, it would likely take the better part of a decade before any of the oil finds its way to market.

Evans said it's impossible to say whether more 33-billion-barrel oil fields exist under the sea.

"Nobody really has data on what's out there in the middle of the ocean," Evans said.

Petrobras' American depository shares closed up 8.3 percent in New York, or US$9.33 (euro5.88) to US$122.18 (euro76.99).

The company's shares went on a wild ride on Sao Paulo's Bovespa exchange, fluctuating between 2 percent and 7 percent higher and settling up 4.8 percent while the benchmark Ibovespa index fell 0.7 percent.

Oil prices were unaffected by the news. Light, sweet crude for May delivery rose US$1.62 (euro1.02) to settle at a record US$111.76 (euro70.43) a barrel.

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Associated Press writers Stan Lehman in Sao Paulo and John Wilen in New York contributed to this report.

 
 

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and Bushie starts sucking up to Lula in 5, 4, 3, 2, .... NOW!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 04/16/2008

Hmmm... Maybe the parable of the Garden of Eden was not about what happened in the past but what is going to happen. All of that CO2 safely locked away over millions of years being brought to the surface and released.

In the end, we will have picked the apple and threw ourselves out. How poetic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 PM on 04/16/2008

So we have the discovery in Brazil, and the massive deposit in North Dakota, and the market price is still unaffected?

Anyone want to step up and explain that one?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 04/15/2008

That's still pretty small potatoes compared to the Ghawar field in Saudi (something like 170 billion barrels), or Cantarell in Mexico.

The problem is that the very large fields like Cantarell are showing post-peak levels of production and we're not finding anything nearly as large.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 PM on 04/16/2008

With pleasure... Think of it this way... Even if they found a gazillion barrels it would take awhile to get to it thus having little effect on spot (current immediate price) of course if it were a gazillion barrels then everyone would be selling their stored supplies knowing what was coming and you would see lower prices... but this isn't a gazillion barrels.. hope that helps make some sense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 04/15/2008

No, not at all I beg to differ. The oil is being traded on paper and not actually delivered
and that alone raises the price. Let us do away with the FUTURE'S MARKET and we
will back to the old way of doing business, put reigns on the hedge funds and eliminate the future's market.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 AM on 04/16/2008

Vippy... You need to learn your history and understand the reason for the creation of the futures market in this country. In the end all contracts remaining open on an actual futures exchange must be met with delivery. You know not of what you speak.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 AM on 04/16/2008

Anybody else wonder if there are a brazillion barrels of reserves?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 AM on 04/16/2008

I'm predicting that a member of Al Qaeda will be discovered vacationing in Rio De Janeiro, which will undoubtedly mean that Al Qaeda is working with the Brazilians.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 PM on 04/15/2008

I swear I saw something on TV years ago about a large population of arabs(terrorists) living on the border of Brasil and Argentina near Iguacu falls... see how easy this is :-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 PM on 04/15/2008

Oh Crap. Does this mean Bush/Cheney are going to declar war on Brazil ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 PM on 04/15/2008

I think that war on Brazil falls under "war on terror" which translates in Banker's/Politician's verbage as "Take Oil from small Countries".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 04/16/2008

I can see some sort of deal in the future I bet. China will be there too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 AM on 04/16/2008

those were my thoughts exactly!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 PM on 04/15/2008

"This would lay to rest some of the peak oil pronouncements..."

This is the largest find in decades. At 33 billion barrels, it represents a 402 day supply, based on the world oil consumption rate of 82 million barrels a DAY.

So, it took several decades to find a new supply that can last for just over one year.

Sorry, peak oil is still alive and well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 PM on 04/15/2008

Alberta, Canada has 175 Billion barrels of proven sand oil reserves. In the $20-30 barrel range this oil is economical to process. Estimated amounts of sand oil in Alberta are in the 2-3 Trillion barrels. Yes, Trillion.

The same trillions of barrels are available in Venezuela -- not sand oil, but heavy oil.

There's 5 Trillion barrels of oil in our region -- this is but two places.

Peak Oil, we'll drown in the stuff or suffocated -- get off of the run out scenario.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 04/16/2008

We were told 1929 that we have reached PEAK OIL. What nonsense!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 AM on 04/16/2008

Does this mean we could finally cut loose from the Middle East oil and close our dozens of military bases there? Or will AIPAC object?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 PM on 04/15/2008

Salvation is at hand, we can keep driving our 12 mpg SUV's. Ahem, like [weather maker] pointed out, this whole humongous find would power the American fleet of car's for 4 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 04/15/2008

And you can bet India and China will be ahead of the US to get it.

Sad to think most the world is still addicted to it, and Brazil can just laugh as they rake in the money-
KA CHING!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 04/15/2008

Yup, and considering that Brazil uses mostly Ethanol for domestic vehicles this is PURE EXPORT PROFIT.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 04/16/2008

Wow. Will gas ever go back to below $2 a gallon? Not bloody likely.

Here's the real rub: Brazil is completely energy independent. Imagine that. So every barrel of oil they pump out will be profit, pure profit for their country sold on the world market.

Wouldn't it be amazing if we were energy independent and all of the oil we pumped out of Alaska profited us as a country instead of just being consumed? The same for Texas, California, the Gulf Coast, and the shale oil of the Rocky Mountains.

Listen up everybody: if we don't reach energy independence by 2020, the new superpower of the Western Hemisphere will be Brazil, not us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 AM on 04/15/2008

Brazil is still considered third-world country because of their social and economic turmoil. Their economy is unstable. This is good news for Brazil, but as with any oil producing country, the big oil companies such as Shell, BP, Chevron and other will mostly profit from Brazil's discovery before Brazil. The infrastructure would have to be constructed, and with little capital to invest in infrastructure, drilling, pumping, storing, shipping and refining, Brazil would have no choice but to partake percentage of this discovery to pull this resoure out.

In the end, it is the big oil companies who'll profit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 PM on 04/15/2008

If you actually KNEW anything about Brazil you would know that your statement is total bullshit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 PM on 04/16/2008

Ummm.. uhhh.. ever hear of Petrobras or did you know that the Sao Paulo exchange is the largest exchange in South America. Or that they have huge budget surpluses down there (unlike here) , It will be (already is) the U.S. with the hand out asking for money these days.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 04/15/2008

Good, they deserve it more than we do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 04/15/2008

That should put Brazil in an interesting position then - assuming that these preliminary findings are accurate.

A country that has largely weaned itself off of oil as a source for automobile energy sitting on top of a good deal of oil. It is a seller's market and they could potetially sell all of it - or just sit on it and wait for the prices to go up, and up, and up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 AM on 04/15/2008

Oh, prices will go up plenty by the time they get it out of the earth, doc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 AM on 04/16/2008

This may not bode well for Venezuela and Hugo Chavez; regardless of how you feel about Hugo [hero or thug], he's a democratically elected head of state, and until he is defeated in an election, he should remain as such.

Considering BushCo's extensive connections to the oil industry, I'm sure this has been known to them before now. And when I think of the recent FARC incident on the Venezuelan border, I do wonder what Dubbya might be up to....

He's already attempted to overthrow Hugo once, and no doubt Big Oil will be all for a second go at that goal, in light of this find. It doesn't really matter that the field won't be in production for a while, as long as access is secured. From that perspective, it is reasonable to think that Big Oil will apply as much political pressure as they can muster to get Hugo out of the way [he's already made plenty of enemies in Big Oil through his oil nationalization efforts, particularly Exxon-Mobil].

With Uribe in Bush's pocket, we may see "Dubbya's Last Stand" in Venezuela before he's out of office. But of course, all of that would be run by the CIA, covert and hush-hush; afterall, we must maintain plausible deniability.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 AM on 04/15/2008

This has happened time and again. Peak oil doomsayers pontificate, the price of gas goes up, then more oil is found.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 AM on 04/15/2008

Peak oil doesn't mean the end of oil. It just means the end of cheap oil. We've picked all the low hanging fruit and what's left is difficult and expensive to extract.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 PM on 04/16/2008

Since initial estimates are usually very low this find can grow in size 4 to 5 fold.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:53 AM on 04/15/2008

You know all, right? The expert on everything?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 PM on 04/15/2008

"This would lay to rest some of the peak oil pronouncements that we were out of oil, .... and that we have to change our way of life," said Roger Read. Wrong, wrong, wrong!! Therein lies our problem. What now, invade Brazil?

Hey Hillary you can leave the incandescent bulbs alone should you win.

One of the best defensive weapons our nation can have is oil independence. Imagine that. All:

..in the name of god and oil.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 AM on 04/15/2008

So much for alternative energy, huh?

We never learn.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 AM on 04/15/2008

Sadly,.... We don't learn.

I am still looking into some solar cells on the house's roof, and a plug-in car over the next couple of years. Some of us at least should learn.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 AM on 04/15/2008

Amen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 AM on 04/15/2008

Watch the opposition to Lula get many a dollar.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:32 AM on 04/15/2008

Time to invade. Can take out Huggo on the way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 AM on 04/15/2008

Wow... 33 billion barrels. US consumes 7.7 billion barrels every year... so that's about what we use in 4 years. Or, what the world consumes in 1 year... so keep it coming Brazil...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 AM on 04/15/2008

Well, Bush will declare a new Axis, and give this new one five spokes, with Brazil and Venezuela included.