Obama: "Hope And Anger Go Hand And Hand"

BETH FOUHY | April 15, 2008 05:13 PM EST | AP

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Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., speaks during a town hall-style meeting with veterans at Washington Jefferson College in Washington, Pa., on Tuesday, April 15, 2008. (AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)

WASHINGTON, Pa. — Democratic Sen. Barack Obama on Tuesday dismissed a voter's suggestion that when Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton called him elitist it "bordered on uppity."

"It's politics," the presidential candidate told a town-hall meeting on veterans affairs. "This is what we do politically, when we start getting behind in races. We start going on the attack."

Obama is running to be the first black president. He holds the lead in votes, pledged delegates and states won with 10 contests remaining, including the Pennsylvania primary next Tuesday.

Seeking to undercut his advantage, Clinton has seized on Obama's comments in which he told donors at a private San Francisco fundraiser that blue-collar voters "cling to guns or religion" because of bitterness about their economic lot. Clinton also began airing an ad in Pennsylvania that shows a handful of voters saying they were insulted by what he said.

Obama has said he chose the wrong words to characterize the economic insecurity many people face. His campaign released a new television ad Tuesday in Pennsylvania to counter Clinton's, calling the former first lady's criticism part of "the same old Washington politics."

At the town-hall meeting, an audience member said he was angry at Clinton's suggestion that Obama's comments were elitist.

"As a white person, this term, the way it's being used against you, it isn't far from 'uppity,'" the man said. "I think the Clintons are getting away with something that they must be called on. They will continue to do it until somebody states, 'Mrs. Clinton, you are really close to prejudice here.'"

Obama said he didn't believe race played a role in Clinton's strategy.

Earlier the day in Washington, D.C., Obama told a labor group that voters are justifiably angry over high gas prices, the loss of manufacturing jobs and other examples of economic insecurity, yet that is no reason to give up hope.

He returned to his signature theme of the "politics of hope" and criticized Republican rival Sen. John McCain for backing President Bush's tax cuts after opposing them.

"Just because you're mad, just because it seems like nobody is listening to ordinary Americans, that's not a reason to give up hope," Obama told the Building Trades National Legislative Conference. "You get mad and then you decide you're going to change it. If you're not angry about something you're going to sit back and let it happen to you. If you're only angry, you don't feel hopeful."

Obama pointed out that McCain opposed the Bush tax cuts, "but somewhere along the way to the Republican nomination, I guess he figured that he had to stop speaking his mind and start toeing the line _ because now he wants to make those tax cuts permanent."

Obama also picked up the endorsement of Pennsylvania State Treasurer Jack Wagner, who cited the candidate's bipartisanship and campaign pledge to end the Iraq war. Wagner, a combat veteran of the Vietnam War, is unopposed in his bid for the Democratic nomination for a second term as treasurer, a statewide elected post.


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They've played to our fears by telling us that a violent Islamic Movement or Middle Eastern countries with limited military capabilities are much much more dangerous and a threat to us than the former Soviet Union. They pumped BILLIONS of dollars into an effort to thwart this Movement with military means without thinking it through. Their economic situation nor the diminishing the threat has improved.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 PM on 04/16/2008

Obama your getting dumber and dumber.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 AM on 04/16/2008

Obama supporters - are you gonna let this writer get away with this: "Obama is running to be the first black president."

isn't that what you called racist when Bill Clinton said it?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 PM on 04/15/2008

isn't that what you called racist when Bill Clinton said it?


Ummm... when did that happen? Refresh my memory...

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 AM on 04/16/2008


Alzheimer, maybe not that serious - Senior Moments ? Definitely selective memory.
Just go over any thread against Hillary.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 AM on 04/16/2008

South Carolina.

Sorry you are new to the campaign. It has been going on for some time now. If you check back in some of the on line magazine coverage, you should be able to catch up. Oh, and don't try using HuffPo as a source. It's a hoot, but it's a long way from providing real information - unless celeb gossip and hewing to the cool factor is your guide for life.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 AM on 04/16/2008

Obama also said that people in small towns didn't like people who weren't like them because of the bad economy. You can't expect to call people bigots and expect them to be happy about it. It's amazing that he would throw all these holier-than-thou words around when he has a racist pastor of his own. What a joke

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 PM on 04/15/2008

For the last 25 years or so, many non-urban working class Americans have been voting on cultural and values issues instead of voting in their own best economic interest.

It was not so long ago that the terms, Quotas and Quota Queens were being pushed by politicians as the reason that jobs in these mostly white small towns were lacking. It motivated them to go to the polls. But their economic situation never improved.

It was the Quota Requirement of minorities fault that their jobs were being lost. It motivated them to go to the polls. But their economic situation never improved.

It was Abortion, Gay Rights, Gay Marriage that got them to the polls because it was said that these wedge issues would cause the end of civilization as we know it. But their economic situation never improved.

Recently everything from jobs losses to the deficit has been placed on the shoulders of Illegal Immigrants. This issue gets them to vote for the candidate who is virulently against illegal immigration. Therefore nothing is done about the 12 million illegal immigrants that are already here. And our economic situation is now worse than ever.

The appease us with Tax-Cuts and and deregulation of corporations that provide our basic services. The national debt increases, the value of the dollar decreases. Gas prices goes up. Real income goes down. And now we are in a recession. Their economic situation has not improved.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 PM on 04/15/2008

"It's politics," the presidential candidate told a town-hall meeting on veterans affairs. "This is what we do politically, when we start getting behind in races. We start going on the attack."

hell, most politicians begin when the starting gun goes off - Hil and B.o maintain a civil relationship despite the game they're in, just like any competitor..What can't their supporters.?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 PM on 04/15/2008

Obama's a narcissistic poser and a fake whose mask has finally begun to crack. He keeps trying to dance around his "cling to guns and religion" comment and blame everyone but himself for the fallout. Blaming Hillary for making an issue of it is the usual tactic: right, "the mean old virago manipulating and twisting my words." Well, she would n't have anything to twist if he didn't say it first. It's ON TAPE! "cling to guns and religion." CLING TO GUNS AND RELIGION AS A WAY TO EXPLAIN THEIR FRUSTRATION. How do you make it go away? You can't. Obama's arrogance is "rich" in thinking he can finesse this away. People aren't that stupid.

From a gun and Bible clinger in PA

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 04/15/2008

America is trying to emerge from the most calamitous 8 yr presidency of the last 40 years (yes, including LBJ + Nixon)..GW 's intellectual capacities won't fill a thimble halfway..BUT, the mental midget had a US Congress that followed him like lemmings over the cliff..AFTER ALL:..They were on the WINNING SIDE, RIGHT..??.Never mind that the Country as a whole lost grievously because of GW's Imperious Presidency..>>>>WHAT ARE WE REPLACING HIM WITH..??.....Intellifem seems to be of the same intellectual persuasion as GW Bush: SLASH, DESTROY and BURN, but WIN BABY.................PLEASE,....Everybody: STOP, take a deep breath, hold it for a count of three,....and distill all the media hype down to Obama's original message:..TOGETHER, we can overcome the devastation of the Bush years more quickly...Namecalling was the" OLD WAY" of politics..Obama is right in saying that HOPE can get us out of this economic and moral bankruptcy which will forever be George Bush's legacy......Hillary's love of POWER is changing who she USED to be into a charicature that wants to WIN AT ANY PRICE- America be damned..........

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:10 PM on 04/16/2008

well keep clinging .....and make sure you vote based on non-issue...i think that way you, your family, your friends, your townfolks, your fellow clingers will be able to enjoy many more years of prosperity.....keep clinging ye'all

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 PM on 04/15/2008

Im from NYC and people like you call us the Heathen city all THE TIME..dirty, rat infested, psychotic, crime infested which is really code word for those evil black and spic people on the Subways robbing white people. LOL I hear this all the time about NYC. However, if i was sensitive as you are and ran into a corner and cried every time anyone said something about NYC i didn't like I guess I woud hide under a rock and vote for the wrong person in anger. But the reality you and your state and this country would fall apart if NYC did not exist. Get tougher and stop crying you Panzy! You better cling to your guns and bibles for the coming economic downturn. Dummy

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 PM on 04/15/2008

There's a lot of places in the nation that wouldn't cry if NYC were to just not exist. PA happens to be one of them, not to mention the rest of the state of New York. Just sayin'.

Anyway, if you Poundcake or mamak have more to offer than personal attacks, and would like to prove that gun and bible clinger wrong, by all means, do so. If you can't, it might be prudent to shut up, before you make asses of yourselves by alienating those gun clingers (80+ million people in the country) and Bible thumpers (150+ million, a conservative estimate), who happen to make up the largest bodies of voters. Again, just sayin'.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 PM on 04/15/2008

Ha-ha!

A "conservative estimate" of 230+ million voters?

The adult population of non-incarcerated US citizens is only about 210 million.

Registered voters is less than half of that.

Home schooled so he wouldn't have to learn of scientific methods no doubt.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 AM on 04/16/2008

Alright, pretend I'm wrong, then. Let's use your number for a little mental exercise, shall we?

Estimate the major majority of adult voters are Christian (they are). Take the 105 million you say are registered voters. Assume that about 60% of them are Christian, giving you about what, 64 million people? There is some, but really not a lot, of overlap between the two groups, because gun owners are more diverse.

You're still talking about alienating an enormous population of people, which still doesn't change the point I made... at all.

Some of us have grown up past insults, superlive.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 PM on 04/16/2008

You are assuming that ALL people who identify themselves as Christians are Sunday school-qualified Bible thumpers -- they're not! Most people identify themselves as Christians because they've been baptized as such -- and that's it! Church attendance has been in decline for all denominations other than Pentecostal for thirty years. And that's mainly because they won't practice birth control. It is impossible to alienate the Bible-clingers because by definition they alienate themselves from the non-clingers who make up the vast majority of "Christians" who can't even quote the text of John 3:16 which defines the basic concept of Christianity.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 04/19/2008

So I just finished watching John McCain on the Hardball College Tour. Watched it here on the Westside of LA with a couple Democratic bigwigs here in the Golden State, won't go into who they were, after it was over we looked at each other and pretty much simultaneously said, he is going to be tough to beat. He came across as optimistic, didn"t blame anyone for our troubles, took responsibility for those things he should have. He also distanced himself from Bush. He looked "adult" for lack of a better word. The audience, by the end of the show, clearly liked the man. There was a respect given towards him, even by those who didn"t agree with him. Dare I say it? He looked Presidential. His knowledge was based on experience¦ Obama will go up against him and use his "theories" while McCain will rely on his experiences. I think, at this point, that McCain will score an electoral landslide. After all Barack Hussein Obama hasn"t won ONE big state except IL. Big Mac will win all the Hillary big states.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 PM on 04/15/2008

McCain seemed more like he was applying to be a department store Santa. Likable pretzeldents include Warren Harding, Ronald Reagan, and George W. Bush. The President should be admirable and maybe even iconic, y'know, like the dudes on Mt. Rushmore.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 AM on 04/16/2008

LOLOL... since you are jumping from thread toi thread... cutting and pasteing the same disinformation... I think your cover as a disillusioned Dem has been revealed to be a ruse... and your master McThusela will need a high powered walker to keep-up in November.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 PM on 04/15/2008

Huh? I posted something that I experienced and its disinformation? Maybe I hear voices too? I better go get my gun and bible I am starting to feel bitter.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 PM on 04/15/2008

No one in their right mind would vote for McCain. Right wing Republicans aren't satisfied with him and neither are democrats. He'll have a sliver of a vote from people who think that war with Iraq is a good thing. He has no plan for the economy, no plan for health care, no plan for peace.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 PM on 04/15/2008

yeah but there's a lot of people out of their mind in America .How else did we get Bush TWICE?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 PM on 04/15/2008

If the left don't like him and the right don't like, that is an excellant spot to be in. Means he is doing something right.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 PM on 04/15/2008

I am thoroughly disgusted with members of the mainstream media, politicians, political pundits and others who intentionally manipulate the meaning and intent of what is actually said, in order to create controversy, stir up trouble where there should be none and unfairly mislead or influence the thinking of their audience.

ARE you going to the store?

Are YOU going to the store?

Are you GOING to the store?

Are you going to the STORE?

Same six words in each example - but a distinct, if subtle difference in meaning, depending on which word is emphasized and how that emphasis registers with the audience.

Voters need to remain focused on the original intent of the communicator and forget the rest. voters should also find attempts by others to manipulate them as exploitive and totally unacceptable because manipulation o fthis sort is truly demeaning and ultimately devalues them [voters] as valid members of society and legitimate participants in our political process.

For instance - barack's 'bitter' remarks. if you listen to the recorded comment, it becomes fairly obvious that barack's intended point was that many people feel they have been betrayed/victimized/exploited/taken unfair advantage of - call it what you will - by circumstances beyond their control/the country's political leadership/certain governmental actions or inactions, whatever the case may be - and that they tend to resent it.

I don't blame them. when i feel exploited or short-changed by events or other people, i resent it, too. that's just human nature.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:13 PM on 04/15/2008

[continued from previous post]

I don't want you to protest. I don't want you to riot. I don't want you to write to your Congressman, because I wouldn't know what to tell you to write. I don't know what to do about the depression and the inflation and the Russians and the crime in the street.


All I know is that first, you've got to get mad.

You've gotta say, "I'm a human being, goddammit! My life has value!"

So, I want you to get up now. I want all of you to get up out of your chairs. I want you to get up right now and go to the window, open it, and stick your head out and yell,

"I'm as mad as hell,

and I'm not going to take this anymore!!"

No, Howard Beale is not a metaphor for Obama. Paddy Chayevsky's mad newsman from Network shows that art doesn't have to imitate life to inform it. "All I know is that first, you've got to get mad." Beale tried to do something constructive with that anger, in his own surreal way. When we take our very real anger and resolve to make something good out of it, there is hope.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 04/15/2008

Program Director: Take 2, cue Howard.

Beale: I don't have to tell you things are bad. Everybody knows things are bad. It's a depression. Everybody's out of work or scared of losing their job. The dollar buys a nickel's worth; banks are going bust; shopkeepers keep a gun under the counter; punks are running wild in the street, and there's nobody anywhere who seems to know what to do, and there's no end to it.

We know the air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat. And we sit watching our TVs while some local newscaster tells us that today we had fifteen homicides and sixty-three violent crimes, as if that's the way it's supposed to be!

We all know things are bad -- worse than bad -- they're crazy.

It's like everything everywhere is going crazy, so we don't go out any more. We sit in the house, and slowly the world we're living in is getting smaller, and all we say is, "Please, at least leave us alone in our living rooms. Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel-belted radials, and I won't say anything. Just leave us alone."

Well, I'm not going to leave you alone.

I want you to get mad!

[continued]

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:16 PM on 04/15/2008


Arrogant-elitist-selfish man used the good people of Pennsylvania to pander votes in California. He is not welcome in my home !

HuffPo is so transparent in its support to this so called "hope' guy, whose so-called "change" is nothing but panderings with no substance. Obama is Judas Isacariot incarnate.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 PM on 04/15/2008

Is it possible that you are really that ignorant? It's hard to believe, but you are working very hard to prove it.

First of all, he wasn't pandering votes in California. California has already voted in the primaries. It was a fundraiser - those usually are mostly made up of those who are supporters that want to help FUND someone's campaign.

Secondly, pandering generally means telling someone something that they want to hear so that they will like you. He was responding to a question about why rural voters might not vote for him, and he pointed out that they usually don't vote for any democrats because the republicans lead them to vote on issues such as guns, religion, etc.

Unfortunately, people like you are proof that the quality of education has declined dramatically in America. You are unable to think critically, and instead, feign indignance about issues that you obviously can't comprehend.

You're still part of America, and one day, when we get someone in office like Barack Obama that really wants to fix things, we'll get you some education. Until then, Hillary and McCain will pander to the likes of you and try to get your panties in a bunch so that you won't notice Hillary's planned sale of American jobs, and McCain's unending war in Iraq.

So, until you are educated, we'll just smile a sardonic smile as you prove Obama's points with the very message in which you attempt to decry them.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 PM on 04/15/2008

Your fear makes you sound hysterical. There will be a tomorrow, . . . you'll see.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 04/15/2008

Hillary Clinton in "Storm Over Tuzla" (video):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgfWVfmilOM

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favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 PM on 04/15/2008

A few minutes ago on Hardball, which is doing one of it's College Tour shows, a college student used his opportunity to ask John McCain a question to instead mock Hilliary for knocking back that shot in Indiana, implying she was drowning her sorrows over Obama being ahead of her in the race. In response McCain seemingly started to make a joke, then fumfered around and rambled for a good 2 minutes ending up talking about sports.

All I could think was- there goes another disrespectful college kid for Obama, how typical.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 PM on 04/15/2008


I live in the midwest in an area where the unemployment has been higher than the national average for decades and I've heard the very people we're