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Obama Outraises Clinton Among Small Town Pennsylvanians

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April 15, 2008 03:00 PM


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Sam Stein is a Political Reporter at the Huffington Post, based in Washington, D.C. Previously he has worked for Newsweek magazine, the New York Daily News and the investigative journalism group Center for Public Integrity. He has a masters from the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism and is a graduate of Dartmouth College. Sam can be reached at stein@huffingtonpost.com.


Sen. Barack Obama's political opponents charge that his recent remarks on the economic woes and bitterness of low-income voters put him gravely out of touch with small town Pennsylvanians.

But a review of campaign finance records -- conducted for The Huffington Post by the Spotfire Division of software firm TIBCO -- reveals that it is Obama, not Sen. Hillary Clinton, who has received the majority of donations from these very same Keystone State communities.

Indeed, through the end of February 2008, Obama received nearly $250,000 in contributions from Pennsylvanians residing in zip codes with populations under 30,000 people. That total, which does not include Philadelphia, Pittsburgh and both city's suburbs, was roughly $30,000 more than the amount raised by Clinton: $220,000.

When the population size is made even smaller, Obama continues to best his Democratic rival. Among those non-urban Pennsylvania zip codes with populations under 20,000, the Illinois Democrat has brought in just over $200,000. Clinton has raised slightly more than $170,000.

(Obama's advantage may in fact be even stronger than these numbers show, since campaigns do not provide information on donors who gave under $200, a subset where Obama has excelled. See the complete data here.)

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"Essentially, this is a separation between the smaller areas in Pennsylvania as opposed to the two major cities and their surrounding areas," said Tim Wormus, an analytics guru with Spotfire. "It gives you a much different demographic and donation profile than when you just look at the state as a whole."

Obama's advantage in these small rural communities is undoubtedly a reflection of his broader organizing and fundraising prowess. In March, for example, the senator raised twice as much as Clinton -- $40 million to her $20 million -- which in turn likely added to his small town Pennsylvania fundraising lead.

But the figures also cut against some conventional political wisdom: mainly, that Clinton has been challenging Obama almost strictly on the large advantages she has in rural, white communities.

Of course, the predictive powers of fundraising data are highly debatable. Rep. Ron Paul, for instance, did not win a single election in the Republican primary despite raising more than most of his challengers. And because the sample size of this query is small (smaller communities have fewer donors), and because Obama's remarks on the economic angst of these towns were only recently made, it would be difficult to jump to any conclusion about the state of Pennsylvania's upcoming primary based on the contributions of its low-populated communities.

Nevertheless, campaign finance experts argue, fundraising records do provide a limited snapshot of where voters will ultimately lean politically.

"People who contribute money are going to vote," Massie Ritsch, a spokesperson for the Center for Responsive Politics, recently told The Huffington Post. "I don't think anyone is making a contribution to a candidate and then staying home on Election Day. Because of that you can draw some conclusion about a candidate's popular support based on the money that they've raised."

 
 

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NOT ONE OF THE MEDIA HACKS LAST NIGHT ASK HILLARY ABNOUT HER SUPPORT NAFTA AND THE WAR, THEN HER FLIP FLOPS ON BOTH AND THE FACT THAT HER HUSBAND BILL SUPPORT FOR THE NAFTA TRADE AGREEMENT WITH COLUMBIA THAT WILL CAUSE MORE AMERICANS TO LOSE THEIR JOBS. WHAT ABOUT MARK PENN AS THE ONE OF THE BIGGEST SUPPORTS OF NAFTA!! MAKE HER EXPLAIN THAT RELATION TO HER NAFTA STANCE!!


NO THE MEDIA HACKS WANT TO KEEP IT ALL AGAINST OBAMA...

MEDIA HACKS ARE JUST LIKE THE CLINTOONS.. EMBARRASSING TO US ALL...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 AM on 04/17/2008

With all the money he took from Pennsylvanians only to wage a Glitzkrieg ad campaign to pummel away any rational thought, it's OBAMA who SHOULD GET OUT OF THE RACE IF "HE" DOESN'T WIN PA BY DOUBLE DIGITS; after all he campaigned WITH TRIPLE THE ADVERTISING BUDGET OF HIS OPPONENT.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 AM on 04/21/2008

They're BITTER because this race has gone on a month too long.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 PM on 04/16/2008

Clinton is representing the poor sick and lame-Obama is representing the well to do and republican lites-of course he will out raise her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 PM on 04/16/2008

Washington Post poll: 62% of Democrats believe that Senator Obama is more ELECTABLE in the general election than Hillary (39%). It's amazing! In spite of all the garbage that's been thrown at him, HE'S STILL RISING!

I know! I know! Polls are not very reliable, but they do give us a sense of how the tide is turning; and this tide seems to be turning in Senator Obama's favor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 PM on 04/16/2008

The media and the so called analysist got it all wrong as usual. Matthews can spit all over the cameras as much as he wants, he hasn't got a clue. Five continous days of Bitter-Gate, endless hours of Rev. Wright and BAMBAM still rises in the polls while Hillary is sucking hind teet. Hillary with a whopping 58% saying she is a dishonest person and most of the nation thinking BAMBAM has a better chance of beating McNUTZ in the general election, she should do the right think for the party and step aside so we can get on with the business of ridding ourselves of the idiotic republicans once and for all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 04/17/2008

Good thing that Obama raised most of that money before telling those people to stick it. 56% of small town voters do not agree with his elitist and pompous comments.

Clearly, the majority of PA supports Clinton because they are simply informed and not bitter. For example, Everyday people call Clintons plan Universal, Obama and the Health Care lobby like to call the same plan mandatory. It is so obvious he is in the bag with the HMOs.

Maybe if he did not have a loophole for the Health Care industry and used the same attack ads the Industry and lobbyists used to kill Universal Health Care in 1993, they might believe him or they would support him instead. You know things like issues instead of personal attacks.

Elitism is mostly about looking down at folks who in a practical sense are every bit as smart as you are. Obama has this down cold.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 04/16/2008

Rural Pennsylvanians aren't as stupid as you and your comments. If they really felt that way, how can Obama out raise Hillary in the rural parts of the state. As Huffington mentioned, these figures do not count the smaller donations under $200...And why would Obama be rising in the PA polls. .You really need to educate yourself and get a life....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 04/17/2008

Maybe you missed this, but for the last month, if not longer, it has been widely known that the "blue-collar" community or "small town voters" were not going to vote for Senator Obama ANYWAY. Not because of any comments he made, but because of who he is. And many of them are also supporting Senator Clinton, not because of her health-care plans, but because she's not Senator Obama! So the 56% who do not agree with him is not a surprise to anyone! Elitism, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder; and if you see Senator Obama as someone who is looking down on people or suggesting that they do not have the potential to be every bit as smart as he is, then your perspective is obviously being guided by something in you, perhaps your own insecurities, because clearly, most Americans do not see this in the same way you do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 04/16/2008

Very nice comments.
We are above all else an aspirational country and have been from the start.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 04/16/2008

Thank you. As Senator Obama has said, we generally have much more in common than we disagree on. And if you and I can agree on something like this, then we must be on the right track :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 PM on 04/16/2008

if hilary wanted to help the people so bad, then why didn't she help with some of these orphan children's contributions, and other needed charities?
No all she did wasput 10 million into the Clinton museum.


I ask you does this sound like she cares about us?

Wake up people!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 PM on 04/16/2008

God if the Huffpost had an IQ test to be able to post most of you wouldn't be able to post! They put the money in a Foundation, then the Foundation gives money out. So Bill Gates gives his foundation billions of dollars and the foundation funds educational, heath and welfare programs and thats bad? Its not like she gave $22,00 to Reverend Wright.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 PM on 04/16/2008

Obama did not give 22k to Rev. Wright. That was the sum of donations made to church programs like after school care and community outreach. Try again...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 PM on 04/16/2008

Trinity was their favorite charity, with the Obamas donating $22,500 in 2006. Trinity is Wright. Its OK don't be upset, Wright will be at the white house all the time giving comfort and solace to Barack and Michelle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 04/16/2008

Maybe, but he is building a 10,000 home with a $10 Million Dollar line on the backs of the working people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 PM on 04/16/2008

READ THIS GOOD FOLKS

They said on the news this morning, that if Obama is our president he is going to have the attorney general, look into all the crime that has taken place in the White House.



Obama is a more likeable guy. He didn"t raise all this questionable money. People want to meet him, not her. The world can see this. Look at the crowds he draws

No wonder Hilary wants the presidency so bad. Like I said yesterday " She May Be Going To Jail"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 AM on 04/16/2008

Please. If he felt so strong about this why does he not do something about it NOW? He is in the Senate and can investigate. Maybe he would need to pull a Republican or two in, but the great unite should have no problem with that dont ya think?

Maybe he will just do the same thing he did for the last six years in the IRAQ was after his speech. In case people forgot it was Nothing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 PM on 04/16/2008

I don't know what to think about Obama. Negative things just keep coming out about him. Now CBS is reporting more bad associates and it makes me wonder if he is going to be crushed in the general election. Here is the article by a CBS reporter.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/04/11/opinion/main4009369.shtml#ccmm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 AM on 04/16/2008

"You don't know what to think about Obama?"

You know what to think on all of your other posts where you post negative things about Obama? You are just as bad of an actor as Hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 PM on 04/16/2008

The facts, please! Speculations, insinuations are not facts! Obama may not be perfect but he is a so far superior candidate and person than Hillary, Bill or McCain. McCain is the reincarnation of Bush. McCain has changed. He is no longer the maverick. He has become a neo-con to get the right-wing vote. Hillary CANNOT BE TRUSTED! She will destroy the Democratic Party to win! Frankly, Hillary CANNOT ANY LONGER WIN in November. With Obama, Democrats still have a very good chance!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 04/16/2008

So maybe Barak's Pentagon Bombing buddy can go to Iraq and show our troops how to do it the WRIGHT way?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 PM on 04/16/2008

I thouhgt I advised you to stop listening to Sean and Rush! It's not working!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 PM on 04/16/2008

bullcrap Hillbot gaming propaganda.....the kitchen sink did not work....the bathroom sink did not work.....now they are trying an unflushed commode.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 AM on 04/16/2008

Yes, Corporate America is very much afraid of him....Westinghouse is still a major MIC player and they own CBS if no longer outrightly, then they are still major stockholders. This is more of the same....they fear prosecution if the man is elected....they are terrified....they want Clinton or McCain...for they are both Corporatist prostitutes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 04/16/2008

Why do facts bother you so much? The guy is from the "Blame America:" wing of my democratic party. Far to the left of mainstream America. The term Birds of a Feather is very salient when it comes to Barack Hussein Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 04/16/2008

Not a "CBS reporter", but National Review Online. Now that's an objective source. If you "don't know what to think", why not just vote for McCain and enlist to fight and die, since, as McCain said, "I hate to tell you there will be more wars". Amazing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 AM on 04/16/2008

If you think Obama has negatives, you're right! And so do you & I and Bush & Hillary & Bill & McCain...

But wait until McCain's negatives begin to sprout. There will be much sprouting going on.

Sprout here! Sprout there! Sprout over there! oops and some more over here!

And Hillary? She's been sprouting.. a bunch of BS all over the "sweet land of liberty"!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 AM on 04/16/2008

Are you still regurgitating this same old crap? Negative people keep recycling the same so-called negative things. People like you, the dividers. The Profiteers. Those who do well when we all do poorly. You need to stop this hogwash...it only makes both your McCandidates look like spoiled brats.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 AM on 04/16/2008

Huffington-Sam Stein has mastered a great skill of objectivity in his reporting. His articles always tend to spark numerous reponses on this blog. Good reporting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 AM on 04/16/2008

I'm a Hillary supporter and will vote McCain.

Obama has no original ideas, all talk no action, and way too liberal. He'll give the country away and everyone will have housing units like they did back in communist Russia while he'lll be living the good life.

He is definitely a limousine liberal and a Senator not an outsider.

Btw people. We can not up and run from IRAQ . I was against the war but we are there now. Your going be disappointed because he won't pull us out once he actually understands what is going on and the results of pulling out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 AM on 04/16/2008

You are not alone. I too would vote for Hillary if she were the nominee, but she isn't so I am voting for McCain. I don't want Rev Wright in the White House, I don't want a man who bombed the Pentagon in the White House, I don't want a woman who thinks this country is downright mean in the white house. I don't want a President who thinks the US in no better than any place else.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 PM on 04/16/2008

so it's cool with you that fathers and mothers, sons and daughters, brothers and sisters, husbands and wives are dying in an unjust war? I hope a few of them haunt your dreams at night

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 PM on 04/16/2008

yea we got it... Bush is a retarded dimwit who duped people into the war. Lets look forward how do we get out for without doing permanent damage to our standing around the world? You guys don't get it at all. I was and am against the war. McCain in my opinion would have gone AS A LAST RESORT. McCain is no Bush. We can't just pull out, thats the childish approach. We broke it, we own it--Now we have to fix it up and sell it back to the Iraqi's.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 04/16/2008

As I read posts like your's, I'm reminded that many of Hillary's supporters reflect Hillary's attitude toward this election. She believes that she is entitled to the nomination, in spite of all of the things this campaign has revealed about both her character and her candidacy; and her supporters feel the same way. She also seems to feel that her nomination is more important than preserving the integrity of the Party and winning the general election in November. Apparently, her supporters feel the same way about this too. Though I once respected Senator Clinton and looked forward to voting for her if Senator Obama is not the nominee, both she and her candidacy have lost all credibility in my opinion. If she becomes the Democratic nominee, I will be deeply disappointed and I certainly will not want to vote for her. But I will nonetheless vote for the Democratic Party, because my loyalty to the candidate does not overshadow my loyalty to the Party or to the future of our country. It's unfortunate that Senator Clinton and her supporters, as Democrats, are loyal only to their own selfish interests.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 PM on 04/16/2008

Yes, you are just that, "a Hillary supporter". Not a Democrat. Why don't you just switch party affiliations now and get it over with, so when you do vote for McMummy in the general election, you have nothing to feel guilty about. I just hope you don't have a son/daughter who is draft age....if so, I suggest they brush up on their farsi, Korean, Mandarin Chinese, Arabic, South American Spanish, Afghani, and a few other select languages that may or may not help them come back home in something other than a body bag to Dover AFB.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 04/16/2008

Elitism isn't the state of your checkbook - it's the state of your mind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 AM on 04/16/2008

I've become weary of hearing angry Clinton supporters say they are going McCain in the general. I recognize that many folks have spent much of their adult life dreaming of a Hillary presidency, and to see her self-destruct must be a bitter pill to swallow. But please, don't do a childish, "see what you made me do," action that would shoot yourself, your party and your country in the foot. I believe that Hillary will do the right thing and lift Obama's arm up at the convention (or earlier) and urge all her supporters to work hard to defeat McCain in the fall and all but a very few very angry HRC supporters will do just that when the hurt and dissappointment have worn off.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 AM on 04/16/2008