WHO IS THE BETTER INVESTMENT THE AMERICAN CITIZEN OR A FEW CORPORATE GAMBLERS????
IF THE FEDERAL RESERVE CAN PRINT $2.8 TRILLLION TO BAIL OUT GAMBLERS THEY CAN PRINT $ 200 BILLION AND DEPOSIT IT INTO SOCIAL SECURITY NOW !!!!!!!!!
The problem with bringing some sort of sanity to the federal budget isn't that people don't want sanity. It's that they usually want something else more.
Political candidates and their advisors know this, and they generally act accordingly.
Take Douglas Holtz-Eakin, for example. The Republican economist and former Congressional Budget Office director used to say eminently sensible things about the budget. In fact, he was broadly admired for his candor as much as for his expertise. "I don't see why we should suspend [fiscal] discipline at a time of war," he said in 2006. "There is no rational linkage between what coming in and what's going out. There's an adherence to cutting taxes and adherence to spending. Doesn't add up at all... I'm just frustrated, I'll be honest about that. This is not a good way to conduct the people's business."
Now in the heat of electioneering, now that he's advising Republican candidate John McCain, not so much. According to The New York Times, he now says it's worth adding to the deficit to pay for the Iraq war and additional tax cuts. "I would like the next president not to talk about deficit reduction," Holtz-Eakin said. "The next president should talk about what's good for American families -- education, health care at reasonable costs, pensions that are secure, opening our borders to trade. If we can take care of that, we can take care of the budget."
It's not just Holtz-Eakin who's willing to sacrifice fiscal responsibility for other goals. Robert Reich, President Clinton's labor secretary, has long warned Democrats against being deficit hawks, arguing that Clinton's successful effort to balance the budget was a trap, because other liberal goals got sacrificed to do it. And when we spoke about the budget at the progressive think tank Demos recently, we got several questions from people who thought it was deeply unfair that Democrats might have to limit their agenda to clean up fiscal problems left by the Bush administration. "They threw a big party, the house is wrecked, and now we have to clean it up," said Miles Rapoport, Demos' president. "And we weren't even invited to the party."
You can understand where both sides are coming from. The nation has so many pressing needs, from health care to education to homeland security. Most middle-class and working class families could desperately use a little more take-home pay, and tax cuts do provide that. So why not make those choices? Why not give the public what they need now?
Here's the thing; there's a name for people who set things right after a wild house-trashing party. They're called grownups. (Or, if you're a rock band, hotel managers.) And they do it because you can't live in a trashed house. We have yet to meet the parents who come home from a weekend away, look around the remains of the living room, and say, "It's time to build that addition."
The fact is, the budget is reaching the point where the next president won't be able to ignore some basic realities. Our current fiscal policy is unsustainable - this is one of the few areas where groups ranging from the Brookings Institution to the Heritage Foundation agree. Our national debt is $9 trillion and mounting rapidly; as a nation we have flatly refused to make responsible choices about either taxes or spending, We've done almost nothing to deal with rising health care costs or the retirement of the baby boomers. If we doing continue doing nothing,, in about 20 years our debt will be outpacing the rest of the economy, and 15 years beyond that the government will have no money for anything other than Medicare, Social Security and interest on the money we've already borrowed.
One of the most insidious things about our long-term fiscal problem is that the inexorable logic of the numbers will slowly, inevitably, rob the American people of their ability to make choices. There won't be money for a progressive agenda or a conservative agenda or any kind of agenda. We'll be leaving our children a trashed house with no money to fix it up again. And when the public can't set priorities for their government, they're not citizens in the broad sense of the word anymore. They're just passengers.
This doesn't mean that controlling the budget is the only priority. We can do other things. But we have to be choose wisely, very wisely, what our priorities are.
The next four years are critical for the country's fiscal future. We deserve to have the presidential candidates treat us like rational human beings. We deserve a news media that asks the tough questions, so we can understand what's going on. We deserve to be told not just what candidates would like to do, but about the tradeoffs the country will almost certainly have to make if they get their druthers. And then we, as citizens, will have to make some sensible, realistic choices .
You know, like grownups.
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WHO IS THE BETTER INVESTMENT THE AMERICAN CITIZEN OR A FEW CORPORATE GAMBLERS????
IF THE FEDERAL RESERVE CAN PRINT $2.8 TRILLLION TO BAIL OUT GAMBLERS THEY CAN PRINT $ 200 BILLION AND DEPOSIT IT INTO SOCIAL SECURITY NOW !!!!!!!!!
Try this:
Cut War/Military/Homeland Insecurity/CIA/Blackwater spending by $500 billion. Reverse privatization and restore funding to all Civilian agencies to do what they were mandated to do. Broaden the tax base by cleaning up the tax code to disallow off shoring of income and other schemes. Raise the top individual rate to 39.6% @ $350,000 with three lower rates. Lower the top Corporate rate to 25% and likewise clean up the tax code. Broaden the Social Security/Medicare tax base to include ALL UNEARNED INCOMES (granting $10,000 exclusions). Remove the cap on these taxes. Set the single standard deduction at the minimum wage rate times 2080. Double this for joint filers. Separate the Social Security/Medicare budget from the Federal Budget. Change the home mortgage deduction to a tax credit for all @ 20% of interest paid up to a max of $4,000 total credit. Limit the child tax credit to two. Limit the number of deductions for children to three. Adjust the AMT for inflation and index it. Tax gasoline @ $2.00 per gallon sequestering the proceeds. Provide tax credits for solar and wind power to both individuals and businesses from these monies. Adopt Nationwide net metering and give tax rebates for the purchase of American made plug in Hybrids. Adopt Dennis Kucinich's health care program, Ron Paul's Foreign Policies and his policies on illegal immigration. Tax State and Local subsidies of businesses as income @ a rate of 50%.
The problem can be stated simply: This article is not on the front page of the HuffPost and has 42 (counting my post) comments. Unless we deal with this issue we won't be able to address any others.
WHY IS THE FEDERAL RESERVE CHARGING THE U.S. GOVERNMENT 19 % INTEREST ON THE NATIONAL DEBT???????
IF YOU CAN BAIL OUT ALL THESE GAMBLERS YOU CAN PRINT $2 TRILLION FOR SOCAIL SECURITY.
LOWER THE DAMN INTEREST RATE ON THE NATIONAL DEBT ASSHOLES!!!!!!!!!!
IF THE FEDERAL RESERVE CAN PRINT $ 2.6 TRILLION DOLLARS TO BAIL OUT GAMBLERS THEY CAN PRINT ENOUGH TO BAIL OUT SOCIAL SECURITY AND SENT THE BILL TO CONGRESS!!!!!!
CONGRESS ALLOWED THE SOCIAL SECURITY FUND TO BE RAISED SO THEY NEED TO REPLACE IT.
NOW!!!!!!!!
I do have a solution to a big part of the debt problem: Privatize the military.
Republicans are mostly morons, but they are patriotic (whatever that may mean). They hate socialism (it's a bad word) yet they have no concept of the meaning, the economic meaning of the expression social allocation of goods and services. The military is a social good, it is socialism staring any Republican in the face and exposing him(her) for the dolt he or she is.
The benefit of privatizing the military is this: Republicans love privatization and capitalist allocation of goods and services. Those of us who are antiwar would not have to be stuck with the military conduct of the Rumsfelds or other criminals we now endure.
So Mr McCain, you free capital Republican you, how about privatizing the military??? (You are not a socialist now are you, boy?).
The sale price would be underwritten by Goldman, taxpayers would make out like bandits and future military costs would be born by the free market. This eliminates all future tax payer requirements. The $3 trillion or so for Iraq to be born by the taxpayer disappears!!! (at least in the future)
(the dirty secret: if the filthy rich pay for defense the poorest amongst us benefit equally as well)
What kind of idea is this we have Blackwater now and it has become a black-hole for money along with Halliburton, Brown , Kellogg & Root and several others.
Bad idea, Henry.
Think Blackwater in Iraq. Who do they answer to for abuse of power??
Piss on what the Republicans want. Name something they've privatized for the better?
Waiting....
WIpatriot,
Tongue-in-cheek irony to expose Republicans.
My great grandfather homesteaded on what was federal land, essentially privatizing it for the better. Now, of course, the buffalo or the Indian did not think that was such a capital idea. But the debate between private and social allocation is relevant. It needs to be a bit more enlightened, for example social health care, single payer system would far surpass the private health care. (Think John McCain will agree with that).
You know, when you compare USA homesteaders to the way Mexico and Latin America settled their respective lands you can vizualize the problems of Latin poverty, i.e. large landholders with majority of peoples landless serfs. Fast forward and you observe this "wonderful" (as I heard a European professor profess in bad english) poverty in Latin America. Think about it a bit. It's a strong point in American history.
Sorry, bud, ya fooled me.
I ususally do
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after the post to let people know if it's not obvious...starting a trend I guess.
American history ain't what it's written to be, for certain. But that's what allows grad students to write papers and books.
"Allow me to create and issue the nation's money and I care not who makes the laws."
- Mayer Rothchild, principal member of that European banking family.
As long as the federal government continues to allow private bankers to create money out of thin air to lend to that government, we are trapped in a cycle of ever-expanding debt-driven so-called economic cycles.
We're at a point in today'scycle that has us precipiced as never before on the greatest financial collapse since the great depression, but with far greater potential for real economic lossses and far greater financial gains in the hands of the fewer winners.
Like the Rothchilds.
Yes, it's a money grab.
Many of the so-called safety-net features of our modern economy rely upon the continuation of the government's ability to borrow its way out of this rathole.
Folks, the jig is up.
The budgets are just part of those laws that the bankers don't care about.
Neither the foreclosures. Neither the regulations.
If anybody in any party wants to do anything about the impending crash, they must remove the money-creation powers of private bankers.
The U.S. Constitution gives the people, through their government, the right to create the nation's money.
It is a HUGE part of something called sovereignty.
It's what we fought the revolution over with Britain.
It's your money.
And the only way we will ever get on top of this mess is to take it back.
Like grownups.
Joe,
A bank is "a loan making, deposit creating entity". Deposits are money. A bank can make a loan for production or consumption...and it can also make a loan for speculation. A bank is the financial nucleus of the community. It finances economic activity e.g. tractors to farmers etc...
The money supply is elastic (it stretches) in the relationship between the banker and the loan applicants. The growth of America has been the envy of the world. (ask anyone in Poland etc) This growth is the result of private banks creating money (it's an abstraction or an accounting entry your choice) by lending it for economic activity. This is the free enterprise capitalism that has made America stellar. Now, there have been abuses at the margin (subprime crisis) but this is a result of securitization of subprime loans that commercial banks would not even countenance. This is a wall street instituted problem.
If the governmtn were to control the money, or if it were only gold, think of where America would be? If you had to save $200,000 before you bought a home instead of $40,000, just how many homes do you think there would be in this country? Without the banks' ability to create money to finance economic activity there would be no growth. Look you could make all the banks branches of the Fed... but it would wind up being the same thing, but with govt loan officers. A bank is a bank after all.
Dear Henry,
I enjoy your posts.
Thanks for the explanation of bank deposits, loans, investments and speculation.
I have read the FED paper on Money Mechanics Explained more than a dozen times over the past forty years.
My Dad turned me on to it after his business employing hundreds of people couldn't get a loan because the bank Board had decided to put all their money into land speculation on Long Island in the early '60s.
My Dad convinced me they should not have that option.
He believed, as you said above, that the bank should be the economic nucleus of the community.
Thus I am still today a big believer in getting the bankers out of the business of CREATING new money, and merely using their own money for whatever purpose they please.
It has made me a believer in credit unions and cooperative businesses, and things like ESOPs.
Henry, I am sure you have not read this:
http://www.neweconomics.org/gen/uploads/CreatingNewMoney.pdf
If you had, you would not make the empty statement;
"Without the banks' ability to create money to finance economic activity there would be no growth."
I don't want to take away growth in the money supply.
It's our money.
I want to take it away from the private bankers.
Joe,
Let me respond 2 points to you. The first presented in the link that the Central Bank would create money at intervals crediting accounts of local governments, giving them the money to put into circulation by spending, e.g. the construction of a new school, road repairs, salaries. This has an alarming state centralism about it. How is the likes of a Ben Bernanke going to know how much money should be "given" to Multnomah County where I live? This does not have a chance in America, it is contrary to every notion we have or have had. Giving "new" money to local areas and having it circulated by being spent. Joe, this sounds vaguely reminicent of Comm Poland. The second point is growth. If the banks, as stated in the link article, could create no new money and that sight drafts(demnd deposits) were not lendable but off the books, then America would be cooked. How would Boeing have "money" for production if the sum total of loans was a 1 to 1 ratio money the bank had on its asset side of the ledger (not deposits)? Growth just does not pencil out in this scenario. Depending on reserve requirements our system loans 10 times what would be available in that system. Could we "get by" on 1/10th?
I bank at a credit union that uses the fractional reserve system and the only difference is the ownership (compared to private bankers)
Henry,
I replied at the allowed length to each of your two points, but HUFFPO would not print them.
So, you may be right.
There may be something un-American about this Constitution of ours.
Henry, your second general point is made, I think, on the basis of a misunderstanding.
The amount, or quantity, of new money created under a Constitutional, debt-free money system would be exactly the same as under the present system of private money creation - in both cases it would be adequate to support economic growth.
You posit that without fractional reserve lending, there would be an inadequate money supply. Where would Haliburton get their chits?
Suffice to say that there there should be a link between the growth of the economy (however measured) and the growth of the money supply.
We need an index that provides soundness to the money system and the economy.
That money supply growth can be done by the unregulated free hand of the market, or by the tightly controlled hand of the government, acting through the Joint Congressional Committee on Currency and Monetary Policy.
If the private bankers create the new money needed this year, there will be somewhere between several hundred BILLION and one TRILLION dollars of new DEBT created.
And, with that new debt creation, there is an IOU that is THREE TIMES BIGGER.
With a government issue there would be the exact same amount of economic growth with ZERO-DEBT created.
In case you haven't noticed, the problem of the day is the insolvency of the financial system.
We can't grow the economy fast enough to pay off all the debt on the balance sheet.
More of the same will not do.
Henry, thanks for your thoughtful reply.
First, to your point that a government issue of the nations money for schools, roads and bridges, rather than the bank's issue, smacks of an alarming state centralism.
I could glibly say that it doesn't bother me, but that might sound untimely, politically speaking.(Privatize! Privatize!) (Comm Poland!)
More basically, Henry, please consider this.
When the shit hits the fan, as it is starting to do now, where do the PEOPLE of the United States of America turn for help?
Do they turn to Mr. Bernanke?
Do they seek out the invisible hand of the free market?
No, sir.
They turn to the people they elected to do what the U.S. Constitution calls for as the purpose of the new government being formed, if I may - to ensure domestic tranquility, to promote the general welfare, and to secure the blessings of liberty on ourselves and future generations.
Pity that in doing so, under the present system of private wealth creation, all they can do is further borrow us into oblivion, instead of prosperity.
"Only the Congress.... shall have the power to create money and to regulate the value thereof...." -
When it comes to creating the nation's money, the Constitution is what you might call alarming state centralism in a nutshell.
If Multnomah County would rather borrow the money at interest, because that feels more American than Constitutional Money, then go get it from a private bank.
Joe,
I am only a smple of one, but here is what I believe the current problem emantes from:
The real interest rate is the Prime rate minus the inflation rate. The real interest rate over the time of history should be 6.0%. This would permit a real rate of savings of 3.0% (assuming a bank needs a margin of 300 basis points between its loan rate and its rate that is pays out on deposits) Look at what Alan Greenspan (he's smart enough to know this) did, he had fed funds at 1.0%, Prime at 4.0% and the real historical rate at 1.0% (assuming inflation at 3%). This means that the real rate on savings was a negative 2.0% (real rates). There is no economy in the world that survives this. There is no incentive to save and every incentive to borrow. Recipe for speculation. Hard to believe the entire FED this stupid to the lessons of history. I am telling you PRIME should have been 9.0%(implying a real rate of 6%) and none of this stuff we observe would have been happening. (once again the real rate is Prime minus inflation... and it should alasy be 6.0% or thereabouts)
Again, thanks for that.
Also a sample of one here.
Please understand that I do not disagree with you about what the proper PRIME rate of interest OUGHT TO be in a normally-expanding economy, given that we continued to exist under fractional-reserve lending by private bankers.
Please understand it is the "given" part of that with which I disagree.
Greenspan seems to be the culprit du jour.
And, he deserves plenty.
But, even within this system, he had only one vote.
Take a 30,000 foot gander at the interlocking directorates of the various Commercial and Investment Bank Holding companies of all of the FED Directors.
They are ALL the problem.
They ALL let this thing happen.
They ALL should have known better.
So, why did they do it?
The answer - to keep the monty going, Henry.
Bernanke and Paulson are just more of the same.
When we look back at the current new FED offerings(JPpartnership) and the OPEN sign at the FED window for a bunch of financial jackals, and their inane attempt at what is really further deregulation, you know what, Henry?
People will shrug their shoulders and say, they were smart enough to know what they were doing.
But they did it anyway.
And, you know why?
Because they could.
THAT ......, is the problem.
(We better stop this. That right margin >> is closing in.
Loans become money. Money is debt!!!!!!
Money alway has a down cycle but trnasfering the lose to those your were not even gambling is not only unfair but equally unmanagable because those who are in the position to make those gambes have not learned.
They are not losing their jobs. In Private Business if you make wild decisions and don't even have the paper work right you butt is gone and fast.
The main reason given but not broadcast loudly is that 90 % of these bad loans are inverstor owned, THE HOMES NEVER SOLD, and the investors do not have clear title to the property. Their deals make so randomly without proper review and paper work would not stand up in court as actual investments or lein holders.
But that is the industry they have fostered.
Except, this time, joe, we don't let the Pubbies back in the game.
So, he's advising McBush, and has thus flip-flopped, just like McBush has!!!!!
Just to put some specifics on a broadly painted picture, our top Fed Budget expenditures:
1 - Social Security. But then SS taxes not only cover all of the payouts, but supply some "surplus". So those who want to eliminate SS usually want to eliminate the payouts, but keep the taxes.
2 Defense Budget. The US Defense Budget is greater than the rest of the world's budgets combined. Or, China and Russia's budgets together are about 20% of the US budget. From my point of view, our problem is not one of fiscal sufficiency, as Mr. McCain has suggested, but rather on of competent management. Additionally, as Mr. McCain knows, but does not choose to mention, the Defense Budget is the single most wasteful AND corrupt area of the US government's finances.
3 - INTEREST on the Fed Debt. Some $470 bil in 2007. That is $ZERO principle, all interest. The physical benefit from this $470 is ... NOTHING. NONE of the candidate propose to do anything about this. BTW about $329 Bil is due to Reagan, Bush, Bush. $190 bil is from W by his lonesome. Good thing the US has the party of fiscal responsibility looking out for us.
4 & 5. Medicare and Medicaid. See #1.
Mr. McCain's pork barrel earmarks? about $60 bil out of a $2.8 Tril budget. Laughable.
PART 2 OF COMMENT
To this end, phony crises are continually created resulting in calls to increase FICA taxes immediately. But until the U. S. government renounces its policy of terrorizing the populace by attacking the integrity of the Social Security Trust Fund, any increase in FICA taxes will just increase the pot to be confiscated the next time a smarter version of G. W. bush is elected President ~ John McCain for example (heaven forbid).
The country desperately needs a "Social Security Recommitment Act" that could read as follows:
No U. S. Treasury Bond, Note, or other financial instrument, whether held by a private person, corporation or foreign government shall take precedence over the prompt payment of interest on the U. S. Treasury Bonds held by the Social Security Trust Funds and the timely redemption of these Bonds as required to fulfill the payment of pension obligations.
Passage of this act would go a long way toward making the average American view the government as his advocate rather than his adversary, and young people could begin to believe that their government is not just a collection of fast-talking crooks.
About SS. This just drives me crazy, as this has been known for YEARS. A nice summation is in the link below.
The gist is that Bush and the GOP has been lying about SS for years. Well, the GOP has been lying about it for Decades (big surprise). And the Dems are either ignorant, stupid, or in cahoots (another big surprise).
But the "trouble" SS is in has been greatly exaggerated. If the US continues its GDP growth at a rate .5% BELOW the 50 year historic average, the SS System NEVER runs out of money. NEVER. EVER.
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/why-social-security-isnt-going/story.aspx?guid=%7B8EC16D27%2D8104%2D43B4%2D871C%2D95D9A78EBCF1%7D&dist=morenews
NOT IF EMPLOYERS HAVE BEEN HIRING ILLEGALS FOR 20 YEARS AND PAYING THEM CASH WITH NO TAXES WITHHELD.
No, it doesn't run out of money, BUT it still MUST be repaid, since otherwise it WILL run out of money when the boomers retire, since the trust fund is full, not of dollars, but of gov't bonds.
The desire to keep the FICA taxes but eliminate the Social Security payments lies at the very heart of the Republican agenda. They will stop at nothing in their attempts to bankrupt the U. S. government as long as this bankruptcy ensures default on the U. S. Treasury Bonds held by the Social Security Trust Fund. This approach conforms to the conservative maxim, "It's morally wrong to let a sucker keep his money," for every working person is a potential sucker to them.
Biddle and Johnson love to throw around the term "grown up" as an appeal to their reactionary constituency. But what use is a putatively "grown up" approach if it is inherently dishonest? To borrow money with no intention of repaying it is flat out immoral, but Republicans try to justify their shell game by describing the assets of the Social Security Trust Fund as "IOUS", thus degrading their credibility to the level of a tinhorn gambler's marker.
But the SSTF's assets are in fact U. S. Treasury Bonds backed by the full faith and credit of the U. S. government, just like the U. S. Bonds held by millionaires and billionaires, foreign as well as domestic. The Republican approach is to stave off redemption of the SSTF's Bonds until these assets can be confiscated outright. (PART 2 TO FOLLOW.
It is simple untrue that the GOP borrows money and has no intention of paying back the money. Just Liberal Lies.
The GOP borrows money and OUR KIDS are to pay back the money.
With interest.
To the Chinese.
See the difference?
But the GOP doesn't really have any INTENTION of paying it back. They seem to simply think that once the Chinese insist that we pay them back, that we will be able to borrow the money to pay the Chinese back from someone else, perhaps the Indians??
Where to start?
The FIRST thing that has to happen is public funded elections and the removal of lobbyists. Take all the money lobbyists spend to influence our elected reps to vote in corporate interests against our desires, and let them pay into a kitty and give them public air time to make their case. That's as close as they get. But what policymaker would vote to reduce his gravy train or allow the blackmailer to expose him??
Our government has become a corporatocracy. Our foreign policy is based around corporate interests, and that's where we get our undies in a bundle. The government is for the people. A corporation is not a people, even though we have an Amendment that says it is an entity.
The Second thing to do is what Henry ended his comment below with, and that is the failed Republican fiscal policy needs to be driven home.
And THAT ain't gonna happen. The corruption in government and business will continue, the militarization of the entire planet's resources for the benefit of American MNCs will not stop, and therefore, nothing will change.
An adult is going to tell you what you did wrong, why it's wrong and what should be done differently, and leave you to go do it. You won't. You will screw it up again just like yoiu've always screwed it up. When will you stop screwing it up? You won't. Your future is predicable because of that.
"Who is John Galt?"
John Galt is a fictional character who use the effect of magnetic to force an armature to spin and produce electric power.
John Galt is in every man who would take a stand and say I will not be a party to your selfish destruction of my county for your personal gain that rapes the citizens of their equity in thier own country.
In other words, You can't rob the natural resources of a nation for personal profit without paying a high access fee to those resources that will replace their value and protect the equity the citizen holds in every ounce of the resource. One a resouce s used up it is gone forever.
You can't rob people blind then expect them to protect the country and people who rob them!!!!
Posted April 16, 2008 | 04:13 PM (EST)