The View From The Right (Of Dick Cheney): Mo Rocca Dishes On His RTCA Dinner Partner

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Wednesday night's Radio and Television Correspondents' Dinner in D.C. didn't feature the rap stylings of MC Rove — forever the gold standard for what some plucky comedians and a few glasses of wine can get a high-profile White House power player to do on stage — but there was plenty going on in the way of entertainment, including former GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney's top ten list of reasons for leaving the race (apparently self-penned, with some help from his inner circle, according to sources), followed by Dick Cheney donning sunglasses and a fishing hat and deadpanning that suddenly people wanted to join him on fishing trips (if not hunting trips). They were two tough acts to follow for featured entertainment Mo Rocca, whose set featured some great zingers — though a few of them weren't appreciated by some folks at MSNBC, who did not take kindly to Rocca's repeated barbs about the network's third-place status.

Rocca's set was over 20 minutes long — an eternity in stand-up comedy! — and, like DC dinner comic Stephen Colbert before him, let's just say not every joke landed. (It's a tough crowd when you're not the guy with his finger controlling the finger on the button, people.) But before Rocca even took to the podium he had to get through the most daunting challenge of all: Sitting next to Vice-President Cheney at dinner.

We asked Rocca which part was more harrowing. Turns out Cheney was a charming dinner partner — Rocca's word — and a chatty one, too. "I expected him to be charming," said Rocca of the VP. "He's a political superstar whether you like him or not. But it's disarming to actually have a human conversation with any sort of figure that's larger than life — especially when you're about to go on and make jokes, a couple of them at the expense of the person you've just been talking to." Fortunately for Rocca he was primed with a glass of wine — the one pressed upon him by Lynne Cheney at the pre-dinner reception to quell his nerves. "She was very maternal," said Rocca, who said Mrs. Cheney assured him that "Oh honey, you're gonna be great tonight."

Cheney made a joke about how the nickname "Darth Vader" humanized him, but Rocca said he'd been struck by the actual human-ness exhibited by Cheney over the course of the evening, talking about his grandkids and making sure that his wife met the daughters of former NBC correspondent David Bloom who died in Iraq, there to present an award in his memory. "It's clear that he loves his wife very much," said Rocca. "There was a lot of warmth there." Nonetheless, Rocca still got up and made a joke about how Cheney was responsible for wasting millions of dollars in Iraq.

He also got the scoop on Cheney's media habits — turns out he actually has them! "I said to him total hypocrite that I am, 'Do you listen to all that cable news blather?'" (Mo blathers regularly on "Countdown with Keith Olbermann"). "He said, 'Absolutely. I'm a junkie for all that stuff. That's why I got into this business. Anyone who tells you in this business that they don't listen to that is a liar.'' According to Rocca, Cheney says he tunes in from his office to CSPAN for various hearings, and he'll shuttle between MSNBC, Fox, and CNN.

But the best Cheney anecdote is this one: "He opened up the folder with his speech in it, with the vice-presidential seal on it and everything, and pointed, and said,'That's from my wife.' It was a little post-it that said 'SLOW.'" Aw. Nonetheless, Rocca still got up and made a joke about Cheney and torture.

(Actually, that was probably the most daring line of the night - after a few jokes at the VP's expense, Rocca said "Sorry, this must be sheer torture for you...I mean, sheer enhanced interrogation." Everyone let out an "ooooh" and looked to see Cheney's reaction...but turns out he didn't even hear it! Said dinner chair Steve Chaggaris of CBS: "The acoustics were a little weird and neither the VP or I heard it. Cheney leaned to me and said 'I missed that.'" According to Chaggaris, you can see that on the C-SPAN tape of the event).

Okay, so — according to Rocca, Cheney's not that bad (feel free to disagree in the comments section, as several hundred of you probably will). What about MSNBC? Poor MSNBC, the brunt of three separate "you're in last place" punchlines. Alas, the conventional wisdom moves more slowly than the 24-hour news cycle, because jokes about MSNBC having an "imaginary audience" really don't reflect the reality of MSNBC's recent ratings climb, challenging and occasionally beating CNN. Besides, even the Veep said he watches.

So, we've established that MSNBC isn't as bad as Rocca said — was Rocca as bad as we heard a few MSNBCers grumbling about after? ETP didn't think so, but we've loaded our shaky hand-held camera footage onto YouTube so you can decide for yourself (see below). In the meantime, here were a few of our favorite jokes:

"This organization has always cutting edge. "Radio and TV" ... how else would we get our news, if not through those new-fangled technologies? I'm looking forward to tomorrow morning's cave painting and smoke signals brunch."

"A year from now the Vice President will be retired, but he'll keep busy. His two daughters have given him six grandchildren. Sadly, his son Luke Skywalker has provided no heirs."

"John Dingell was here, but he left early. He's from Michigan, so it's not like he was ever really here. "

"People say Barack Obama embarrassed himself by bowling a 37...Poor Barack. He bowls much better in caucus states."

"Where are the people from CNN? The Best Political Team on Television. Which is kind of like being prettiest girl in accounting."

"Hillary Clinton is struggling to keep her candidacy alive, and I feel a certain sympathy for her. I mean, to be stuck in a doomed enterprise, with everyone against you, people telling you that you're pulling the country apart, that you've got no hope of winning, that you should just withdraw... I can't even imagine what that must be like...Can you, Mr. Vice President?

He kept that up remarkably well for the whole 22-plus-minute set, incorporating pics (including some makeshift porn videoboxes featuring Barack Obama - special for the press! - with titles like "Barely Nominated") and video (the classic clip of Miss Teen South Carolina trying desperately to string a sentence together - it didn't work at first, but those in the audience who are fervent supporters of the Iraq and the South Africa got the joke on sight).

It's funny, there were rumblings after that Rocca was hit-or-miss, and Rocca himself acknowledged that "it's rough when you get up there" — but reviewing the tape, the laughter seems loud and frequent. If you can't tell from this post, I thought it was funny — but then again, I thought Stephen Colbert's White House Correspondents Dinner set was brilliant and hilarious, and it was apparently met with deafening silence by a crowd not dissimilar to Wednesday night's audience. Take from that what you will.


Mo Rocca at RTCA Pt. 1

Mo Rocca at RTCA Pt. 2

Mo Rocca at RTCA Pt. 3

Full video of the event available at C-SPAN here.


 
 

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Cheney found himself a good joke-writer, to be sure. Good for him. He surely deserves the best money can buy, right? But seriously, folks, every joke he told was based on something stupid or mean or deadly or insane that he has done to someone in the past. And the audience, well-bred, seemingly intelligent, not likely to voice admiration for Hitler, lapped it up. Laughs a-plenty, standing O at the end, good time was had by all. Really and truly despicable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 PM on 04/21/2008

There are two kinds of national leaders, the Thugs & The Charming Thugs. I guess we have been informed that Cheney is a charming one.

There were people in the 30s who claimed that Hitler and Stalin were charming too.

I remember the video of Saddam Hussein shedding tears as he condemned his early supporters, childhood buddies, to death. (I was almost charmed.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 04/21/2008

Colbert ridiculed with admonishment, not losing site of this most important aspect of satire. That Cheney wears human skin--as far as I know--is the extend to his human-ness, not to mention humanity. He deserves nothing less than disdain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 AM on 04/20/2008

never send a gossip reporter to do a media critic's job.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 AM on 04/20/2008

Mo Rocca? Isnt that a country in northern Africa? Or is it those gourds filled with seeds that are shaken as a percussive instrument in Latin style music?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 PM on 04/19/2008

All I saw, was Mo Rocca sitting beside a very evil man....for air time..

Shame on everyone.....the man is evil....who cares if he is funny or warm or has grandkids...lots of evil sadistic dictators have wit...charm and families.

What about the grand kids of dead soldiers...or the grandkids that lots of people his age will never enjoy cause there son got blown to bits in Cheney's....war for power and profit....not so funny

But sitting next to them to cause a giggle and get your face on TV....that is a sell out..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 PM on 04/19/2008

...Ms. Sklar, your achilles heal is that you are an indiscriminant sycophant to the glow of politicos as celebrities,,,a papparazzi of the blogoshphere.......partly generational i guess.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 PM on 04/19/2008

..Cheney is a sociopath---- by definition glib and charming when necessary...so was Ted Bundy...the intended "innocence" angle on this essay didnt work ms. Sklar... whats next, a Chalabi send up about "Charming Uncle Ahmad"?????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 PM on 04/19/2008

OR A RENDITION OF "CALL ME AL"

With Muktada al Sadr....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 PM on 04/19/2008

Goering and Himmler talked warmly of their family too...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 PM on 04/19/2008

Mo Rocca!? Apparently Gallagher had a gig at the Cupertino Ramada Inn and was unavailable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 PM on 04/19/2008

What the hell is a Moe Rocca?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 PM on 04/19/2008

Hey Rachel did Cheney really ask Mo if he liked gladiator movies?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 PM on 04/19/2008

Now you did it, Rachel....gone & humanized Dick Cheney of all people!

Now he seems just like any other doting Granpa....a little meaner and more evil perhaps....but still

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:51 PM on 04/19/2008

There were so many people overwhelmed by Adolph's love for his dogs and Eva.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:45 PM on 04/19/2008

I love Mo and Colbert. They are both hilarious, with totally different styles.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:17 PM on 04/19/2008

You are very good at entertainment reporting, Rachel.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 04/19/2008

Am I losing it? Mo Rocca? I thought, had heard from Craig Ferguson himself, that he had been invited, and accepted this year's position that I now find out was filled in by Mo Rocca. What am I missing here? It must have been lame, barely any news coverage, at ALL. What happened to Craig?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 04/19/2008
- Rachel Sklar - Huffpost Blogger I'm a Fan of Rachel Sklar

Craig Ferguson will be at the White House Correspondents Dinner in D.C. this Saturday - different dinner.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 AM on 04/21/2008

Actually, you are quite wrong about Colbert's performance.. every single one of his jokes "landed" and have become part of DC politico/media history. No one will ever dare to do that again, and Rocca's weak performance shows why most people shouldn't even try.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 PM on 04/19/2008

The performance part of Colbert's time that night was nothing short of heroic, whether all the "jokes" landed or not. On the other hand, the video bit that followed was tired and took away from the overall impact, in my opinion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 AM on 04/20/2008

Colbert's performance was at the top of itunes list for about a year. "Going Viral" would be a massive understatment. People were actually paying to see it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 PM on 04/19/2008
- Rachel Sklar - Huffpost Blogger I'm a Fan of Rachel Sklar

It's well-established that Colbert met with a tough crowd at the WHCD in 2006. I note further down in the piece that I thought Colbert was both "brilliant and hilarious." But the two are different things.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:26 PM on 04/19/2008

Don't let these jerks get you down Rachel. Great report on the dinner.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 04/19/2008

Who are you calling jerks? Can you be more specific and factual. Reasons, comments???
You can call people jerks but I can't raise constructive criticism without being called a jerk!. I can only assume you are a Hillary supporter. I forgive you.

GO OBAMA!!! Yes we can!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:05 PM on 04/19/2008

Are you kidding me? Since when did huffpoo demand facts and reason?! I thought those were explicitly prohibited. Didn't you read the fine print when you checked "I Agree" when you signed up? YO MOMMA, not gonna happenin'!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 PM on 04/20/2008

Actually I was calling you a jerk and thanks for proving me right.

And BTW I support Obama although I can't grasp the logic of how that has anything to do it me appreciating Rachel's report.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 04/19/2008

Thanks for the compliment. Much appreciated.

Go OBAMA!!! Yes we can!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 AM on 04/20/2008

Yeah, try to spin the monster into a human. Won't work. EVER.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 AM on 04/19/2008

Your writing style is too insider, narrowly focused and BORING!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 AM on 04/19/2008
- Rachel Sklar - Huffpost Blogger I'm a Fan of Rachel Sklar

Honestly - what's insider anymore? The internet has made minute information about pretty much everyone available at a click - it's insider that Stephen Colbert's WHCA din speech fell on stony silence? It's insider that Dick Cheney has a rap as being evil? It's insider that MSNBC has been powering up in the ratings of late? The only thing insider in that post was the true insider information - info about what two people talked about over dinner. As for being narrowly focused, while I was writing it I worried that it was too long and meandering - I cut a part about how it's unusual for the entertainment to sit on the dais with the dignitaries but Chaggaris thought Mo belonged up there and made the decision to seat him next to Cheney and Dana Perino - a decision which Cheney was informed of beforehand and approved. But it felt like too much. I take all of your criticism but in order for it to have any effect you need to back it up with some sort of example - because as it is the only thing that makes much sense to me is boring, and, well, that's fair, I suppose.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 PM on 04/19/2008

It's not that you are all that bad, it's that the HP should and could find someone, if not better, then less of a fledgling. Preferably someone compulsively readable.
Given the ultimate importance of the subject matter and what is bottom line at stake in being Media Editor here, it would be nice to read something more substantial and original.

Perhaps what the poster was feeling is that you do read somewhat limited,
and with all the talent out there, maybe hiring for demographics isn't the best of all possible standards.

Style is subjective. Substance isn't.


gala

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 PM on 04/19/2008


of course rachel cannot respond to this assinine post,
her style and spirit is brilliant.
for some reason you thunk you had a shot
at taking a shot.

please do - perhaps cuervo.

your slant is just a hair bit evil.
you wish to inflict unwarranted hurt
on someone's artistic temperament -
something undefinable, but forever vulnerable.

how bout this:
you put your neck out on the line
for others to cut?

oh, you just did;
and i just did.

thanks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 AM on 04/21/2008

Ms.Sklar's editorials are written from an obscure perspective; her interpretation and delivery banal.

Apart from the headlines and her choice of topic I am rarely entertained by the content or her delivery style.

I know that there must be many writers who could have taken the same topic and made an enjoyable romp of a read out of it. Like much of Rachel's writings, her editorials seem to be written for a very different audience then those like me who peruse the pages of HP (hence my "insider" comment) several times a day.

Rachel seems unseasoned, immature; in my opinion she appears to try too hard and miss. This is in no way a criticism of Ms.Sklar's character just of her writing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 AM on 04/20/2008

Rachel, forget it. These luddites won't listen to anyone or anything that has a slant other than their preconceived notions.

Any suggestion that the VP is an actual human with feelings for his family, friends and country will be met with pure hate and invective. All this from supposed liberals. Irony at its best!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 PM on 04/19/2008

What's an insider. I'll tell you. The correspondents and politicians who laughed at GW Bush as he looked for WMD under the table. One needs to be an insider to find that funny. You'all just don't get it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 PM on 04/19/2008
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