Winning Pennsylvania

Posted April 18, 2008 | 08:59 AM (EST)



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After what has seemed like an interminable campaign purgatory, the Pennsylvania primary is finally only four days away. Despite suggestion to the contrary, Barack Obama is all but guaranteed a victory.

Obama may well pull an upset. Since Texas and Ohio, the Clinton campaign has focused their message primarily on a superdelegate strategy. That strategy has included arguing that Obama is unelectable, suggesting he is out-of-touch and elitist, and criticizing him repeatedly for innocent associations with guilty people. The problem of course is that her argument to the superdelegates is not the most advisable to pitch to Democratic primary voters. It is not a coincidence that she sounds awfully similar to John McCain when she speaks. The rationale for her receiving the nomination without earning it is premised on the notion that Obama would not be able to stand up to Republican attacks. As such, she has peppered him with those attacks.

But such attacks are distinctly Republican for a reason, namely that they resonate significantly better with the Republican base than with Democrats. The left is unlikely to be swayed by Reverend Wright or Bill Ayers, and unlikely to find something especially disturbing about comments made at a San Francisco fundraiser. They are, after all, Democrats. It is not surprising, then, that we have seen no decline in Obama's poll numbers among those voters currently in play.

It is not just the attacks themselves that have failed, but also the act and manner in which they have been carried out. For at least a month now, the accepted media narrative is that Hillary's likelihood of winning is incredibly slim and that, absent something unforeseeable, Barack Obama will prevail. Even among those still undecided, watching Hillary Clinton beating up on the likely Democratic nominee is unsettling. Polls have consistently shown her negatives shooting up. More than half of Democrats say they don't trust her.

Of course, despite all of this, Hillary still leads in the state, and may pull off a win. A win for her, however, is still a significant victory for Obama. Despite having broken all campaign spending records in the state and despite having dramatically cut Hillary Clinton's lead, the narrative has yet to change. It is still the case that the Clinton campaign and surrogates are predicting a substantial victory. It is still the case that most pundits and opinion makers have come to expect one, as well. And with Obama's subpar debate performance and two mini-crises boiling to the surface in the final days of the campaign, it would appear expectations for Obama are nearly impossibly low. To meet or exceed those expectations would require almost nothing at all.

But whether those expectations are exceeded with a five point loss or met with a double-digit defeat, that Pennsylvania is over means the clouds of uncertainty that engulf the race will begin to clear. There is, indeed, a new kind of inevitability on the horizon. Whether he wins on Tuesday or not, Barack Obama cannot lose.


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Does this tripe really pass for journalism? What does Loewe do in his spare time; stand out in front of strangers' homes with an "I Love Obama" sign? The media has really let us down in this electoral process, just like they did with Bush. The same corporate media that tried to shove Bush down our throats, are now shoving Obama down our throats. What a disgrace.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 PM on 04/18/2008

It's not journalism. And I'm not a member of the press.

It's commentary. It's op-ed.

I proudly support Obama.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 04/18/2008

Someone just stole my "I Love Obama" sign! I cant blame them, but I want it back!

"Obama the Great" in 08'

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 PM on 04/18/2008

Although I would love nothing more than to see an Obama victory in Pennsylvania (I even guarenteed Pennsylvanians that the Steelers would move from my least favorite team to second favorite behind my Bengals if they should go for Obama), I just dont see it happening.

I have yet to see a poll with Obama above 42%, even the one in which he is leading... I am afraid that Obama may have a ceiling in PN. There are also a high number of undecideds that I have a feeling will end up going with Clinton, as undecideds seem to revert back to the safest bet once the enter the polling booth.

My prediction is a 9 to 13 point victory for Sen Clinton.. unfortunately

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 PM on 04/18/2008

How about the national polls/. Have you seen them?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 04/18/2008

My prediction is a 2 to 5 point victory for Obama. A huge upset!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 PM on 04/18/2008

Until some months ago I did not know of Hillary's Pennsylvania connection (I lived in the state for 20 years). And then I learned that her right-wing-inclined father had come to Illinois from Pennsylvania, and she has been recounting the life of her grandfather in the coal-mining region of the state, including her being taught to hunt there as a child. I think Hillary will win the state, even though the voters of Philadelphia and its suburbs, who are usually decisive in state elections, are expected to favor Obama, but whether this will rescue her campaign remains to be seen.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 04/18/2008

Dylan - DO NOT RAISE EXPECTATIONS!

My god! Haven't supporters and pundits learned ANYTHING? Just state where it stands today - he is behind in the polls. Don't predict a possible win for Obama!

The reason is, should Clinton win PA (like she has ALWAYS been expected to) - she will point to articles and commentary like this one saying "They said we were going to lose - well, the people of PA stood up and their voice was heard, Thank you for the Victory, my friends in Pennsylvania!!!"

This is what happened in Texas and Ohio - two states Clinton was expected to win even 2 weeks out ... and then pundits and commentators starting spreading the hype of an Obama upset. Same thing in NH.

If you all would have just been reasonable - The Clinton machine would have been out of gas already - but it is raising expectations by stuff like this that has kept it going.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 AM on 04/18/2008

Don't get all bent out of shape about it. The media's been preparing the narrative already - that Obama is "closing the gap". I appreciate Mr Loewe's posts, which are always superior journalism when compared to traditional media. Sadly they don't get the same kind of coverage as the television-based propaganda that passes for journalism in the traditional media.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 AM on 04/18/2008

A couple of notes about the PA spending issue I'd like to clarify if anyone knows:

Why wouldn't Obama be outspending not only Clinton (whom he has trailed in the state significantly and whom he has outfundraised significantly) but every candidate ever (who have never fundraised like his campaign has been able to)?

Has Pennsylvania's primary ever mattered this much to decide the outcome of a primary (and been such a divisive primary)?

Has there ever been a campaign in history where there were so many media and information outlets to cover? So many different ways to try and get your message out to people?

Since no other candidate in history has raised as much funding as BO, why would it surprise people that he's outspending them (the insinuation here is that if past candidates, or even current candidates, had raised money like BO, they would have spent it just as easily)?

Why would spending comparisons to the general election matter when clearly nobody is going to be able to spend a majority of their resources on just one state?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 AM on 04/18/2008

Everybody always talks about the money Obama is spending. The bigger story behind that, that everyone fails to tie together, is that we gave him the money. The million + small contributors. And we gave it to him so he would spend it to WIN. That's called support.

You don't think Hillary would spend it if she had it?

Yes *WE* Can!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 AM on 04/18/2008

You bet she would. In any case, Obama's spending power on ads has only redressed - in some degree - the advantage she has had in terms of Gov Rendell's support and political machine, an ex-President campaigning daily for her and her own name recognition and roots in the state.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 04/18/2008

I agree that Clitnon has a huge built in advantage...

I think that the main push in PN is to counter Clinton's ability to close the popular vote gap. PN is the last big state with a big Clitnon advantage. If she wants to make a serious argument to the supers, she needs the popular vote.. Obama is spending to depress Clinton's turnout and narrow the gap, in this last chance for Clinton to gain a substantive argument for her candidacy.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 PM on 04/18/2008



It aint happening! She's through next week!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 04/18/2008

Yup... and it will not happen! She will be through very soon! So long Howard Wolfson! Bye-Bye!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 04/18/2008

The media and pundits may be in for a big surprise in PA. After Wednesday night's debate, the remaining fence-sitters got a good look at what the next few months of the primary would look like. Pure rovian sliming of both democratic candidates, about 70/30 against Obama/Clinton.

PA voters are going to put an end to it. With even a 1 point victory for Obama, it will be clear that it's time for Hillary to throw in the towel. We should welcome Hillary and her supporters - our tent's big enough for all of them, and there are plenty of seats left at the table.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 AM on 04/18/2008

I keep hearing about Obama's 'subpar' debate performance.

I saw the debate, and I'd like to go on the record (for all six people who read this) as finding his performance outstanding.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 AM on 04/18/2008

At least he's not blaming his performance on "fatigue or exhaustion". And I'm sure he was up at 3:00am too!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 04/18/2008

I am glad I am not the only one. Maybe I am just a huge supporter, or am unusually turned off by negative politics, but I found Obama's argument that the focus should not be on distractions as honorable and long overdo for a national candidate. That argument is very powerful to me in that I see distraction based politics as a main root cause for the state our country is in today. I also found it particularly honorable when Obama defended Mrs Clinton's Bosnia gaffe..

But, I guess being honorable is somehow viewed as weak in our combative culture. To me, it was a breathe of fresh air in the midst of the Steph/Gibson shitfumes..

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 PM on 04/18/2008

I totally agree. Just cause he got slimed by ABC means he lost?

I loved his answer about how the president sets the mission in Iraq, when they finally got around to asking substantive questions that is.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 AM on 04/18/2008

She will win Pennsylvania easily because despite the ups and downs of a campaign the fact remains that the demographics in this state heavily favor her as in Ohio. The coalition of the uneducated and right wing democrats that Hillary Clinton has forged will dominate in this state and we will see the racial effect which David Sirota has explained so well. Obama will do much better in Pennsylvania in a general election but in this primary he will lose.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 AM on 04/18/2008

Um, you forgot about the youth vote, which can't be polled because of cell phone???

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 PM on 04/18/2008

Yeah, she might win, but I don't think it'll be "easily."

I live in PA. While you're correct that the middle of the state's demographics are like Ohio's, the counties surrounding Philadelphia are filled with highly educated people, ie Obama supporters. Also, we've seen dramatic increases in new voter registrations as well as R's switching to D's to vote in this primary. I think that will work in Obama's favor. So, yes, she'll win the middle of the state, but will do poorly in southeast PA (where much of the population is) so her winning the whole state will not be "easy."

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 AM on 04/18/2008

What's your sense on the ground? Where in PA are you, and who are most of the people you know voting for? Have you done any canvassing? The campaign really needs help this weekend if you have any time.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 AM on 04/18/2008

OICUR2 is partially right - it's too late for a weekend push to really make a difference. But the help Obama needs is for a large number of people to snap out of their fogs of illogic. The most ardent supports here in the western Philly suburbs are angry women who are angry and vengeful over their experiences/perceptions of sexism - and they're angry.

Did I mention they're angry?

A couple hours ago, I saw a lady holding up a 4 foot high hillary sign (huge) at a strip mall entrance. How the hell does that get votes? I have no idea. But they're angry and as I've blathered about in the past, this sub-group isn't really known to be very shy nor concerned about their public dignity. Like hillary, they really don't know where to stop when trying to make their point.

Regardless, I think most of the decisions have been made and there will be no poll movement until after the election. However, I think hillary's victory will be very small - 2 or 3%.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 PM on 04/18/2008

Yah... I'm sure they do need help. And lots of it! But I think its a bit too late for that right now.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 04/18/2008

The Ayers story is nothing more than another bit of information showing that Obama has worked hard for to fight poverty by serving on the Woods Foundation Board and that other some other people do as well. It has also reaffirmed the Clintons' Machiavellian tactics - the end of a primary win justifies the means of smearing, smirking and personal degradation. It will prove to be a phyrric but passing personal pummel. Although they charge Obama with elitism, The Clintons' approach is far more condescending to their own electorate - they've outwitted themselves with their overreaching McCarthy-like tactics.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 AM on 04/18/2008
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