Steven Soderbergh's Che Guevara Epic Misses Cannes Deadline

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Variety   |   April 18, 2008 05:29 PM


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Today's Variety has a rundown of movies playing, and not playing, at this year's Cannes Film Festival. One long-anticipated film, or films, will not be ready on time:


It was long hoped that Cannes vet Steven Soderbergh's Che Guevara double bill, "The Argentine" and "Guerrilla," would premiere on the Croisette, but it seems that the director, who has wanted either both or neither of the films to play the fest, won't be able to finish the four-hour-plus opus by deadline. Evidently, Soderbergh has essentially finished the second film but, despite non-stop work in recent weeks, hasn't quite gotten the first half of the Benicio Del Toro starrer where he wants it.


Given that Fremaux is reducing the number of competition slots from 23 last year to about 18 this time, he may have the flexibility to keep the door open to Soderbergh if, at the last minute, the director decides he's ready to present his films to the public. A double translating job -- Spanish-language pics will require both English and French subtitles -- could prove a further complication.

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Benicio Del Toro!! definitely worth watching. some people can't accept that Che is considered a hero that's because they see him as an enemy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:58 PM on 04/20/2008

Ignore all the stupid authoritarian bigots in here. They don't know a g**damn thing about Guevara.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 04/20/2008

Smart move. We all saw what happened to "Medellien" at Cannes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 04/20/2008

Che has proved one thing quite conclusively, the only good Marxist is a dead Marxist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:24 PM on 04/19/2008

The only profitable Marxist is a dead Marxist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 PM on 04/19/2008

I'll second that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 04/19/2008

Oh, no - there are plenty of good Marxists. Descent, loving, intelligent, respectable people.

What Che has proved is that the only PROFITABLE Marxist is a dead Marxist. Capitalists are quite happy to make money off of other people's misery and death, Marxists not so much.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:43 PM on 04/19/2008

TIME Magazine = Che one of 100 most influential heroes and icons of 20th century .... (read for yourself)


TIME 100: CHE GUEVARA
By Ariel Dorfman
June 14, 1999

http://www.time.com/time/time100/heroes/profile/guevara01.html



I have a feeling these films will be box office hits Worldwide - and create that new generation of Che believers the world so badly needs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 PM on 04/19/2008

Ouch!
Che placed three spots below the American GI in the Icons and Heroes section. But don't feel bad, I' sure he would have placed at the top in the Cowardly Opportunist section.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 PM on 04/19/2008

Good God! It's a flippin' movie! It's entertainment. It's Hollywood! It's a capitalist venture to make money.

Love him or hate him, Che is a historical character. Anyone here want to comment about the actual films?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 04/19/2008

= GOOD IDEA

First ... Benicio Del Toro was the perfect choice to play the heroic Che in the upcoming films "GUERRILLA" & "THE ARGENTINE".

Look at this comparison :o)

http://img.timeinc.net/pespanol/i/galeria/2006/mayo/Historicos4_benicio.jpg

= Almost an exact match



.... MORE Pictures of Del Toro as Guevara

http://bloggywood.se/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/argentine-che-3.jpg

http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2007/11/12/argentine-che-deltoro.jpg

http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2007/10/12/del-toro-che.jpg

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/5113/beniciodeltorocheguevara120bs.jpg



CAN'T WAIT FOR THESE MOVIES !

--- HASTA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE !!! ---

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 04/19/2008

___ CHE -vs- JESUS ??? ___

"What external similarities and differences does the historical record show between the passions of Che and Christ? Both died young, in their thirties. Both were betrayed like so many martyrs by those who should have supported them (Jesus by his disciple Judas and the crowd at his Presentation, Che by the Bolivian peasants and Communist party.) Both were mocked by and insulted by soldiers after capture, and suffered despoliation of their paltry belongings after death. Both were exhibited in public to be reviled, in a manipulated public response, with two other victims. Both were executed in the military manner appropriate to the age as seditionists. In some respects, however, Jesus was treated better than Che, which says a lot about our present level of civility; Jesus was given a trial with some legal trappings, even if not a fair one. Che was murdered, period, without the merest show of a trial, which would have risked garnering worldwide sympathy....And above all Jesus' family was allowed to take the body down from the Cross and bury it decently. Che's body was quickly "disappeared" in order to prevent mourning, reverence or the germination of myth."

~ David Kunzle

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 PM on 04/19/2008

A good article that looks at the phenomenom of CHE as CHRIST in BOLIVIA where he was killed ....


"The Final Triumph of Saint Che"
Andres Schipani in La Higuera, Bolivia
The Observer
September 23 2007


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/sep/23/theobserver.worldnews


"When I go to bed and when I wake up, I first pray to God and then I pray to Che - and then, everything is all right." --- Freddy Vallejos

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 04/19/2008

Official Fan site (I believe) for these upcoming films on the heroic Che ...

http://www.theargentinemovie.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 PM on 04/19/2008

As I expected, it's totally hilarious to see conservative Americans who don't know anything about history and can't even locate South American countries on a map (some can't even find South America! Some probably think South America is part of the US...) spewing the same government propaganda concocted by people like McCarthy and Nixon half a century ago for the consumption of the totally clueless.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 PM on 04/19/2008

What a shock Huffpo worships Che crotch on their knees... Any evil done by a Commie is A-OK, then condemn America for similar tactics... Hypocrites to the last. Please leave my country, illegal aliens don't want you here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 AM on 04/19/2008

At first reaction, I didn't even want to respond to your ignorance, but I am forced to do so. I would like to first ask you for a list of evil deeds committed by Che Guevara? Please, give me some good solid info, you have to know something about the man to label him an evil Commie, right? Maybe I am asking too much of you to have some knowledge of history, or to form a coherent argument instead of simply tossing out idiotic insults. As to your charge of hypocrasy, your statement is wrapped in the most profound hypocrasy. Your kind would prefer to never discuss vile acts committed by our own government, you are content to buy the line that we are the "good" guys and always act out of some all pervading altruistic motive and our love of freedom and democracy. Then your twisted logic calls those that you consider communists hypocrites for deriding our government when it acts in a manner more fitting Stalin or Castro. And again, you miss the entire point and play into the hands of your current demagogue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 PM on 04/25/2008

How about you tell YUOR corporations to leave our countries??? Tell them to pay a living wage, and we won't have to come here to have a decent life!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 04/20/2008

CHE = HERO ..... REAGAN = BUTCHER


DEATH COUNT:

Che Guevara = few hundred of Batista's henchmen, torturers, and rapists.

Reagan = 1 million Iraqi/Iranians by selling weapons to both sides

CONTRA death squads lead to the deaths of 70,000 in El Salvador, more than 100,000 in Guatemala, and 30,000 in Nicaragua.


CHE< REAGAN "the real Butcher"


..... The Reich-wing must be proud !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 PM on 04/19/2008

Comrade, dont kid yourself. Since, you have littered your mind with socialism. Your savior ernesto, killed more than just henchmen belonging to the other side. He was directly and personally responsible for killing unarmed civilians. Both men and women. Don't let yourself be caught in the romance of revolution.
Your savior had a psychopathic bloodlust he himself could not quench.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 PM on 04/19/2008

So the Iraqis & Iranians aren't responsible for killing each other? Reagan made them do it? Regardless, Che sought to impose a totalitarian dictatorship upon Latin America. No freedom of press, no freedom of dissent, no freedom at all. Posting comments on a website like this critical of the gov would get you arrested, tortured, imprisoned and probably shot without trial in Che's Marxist utopia. Batista's many crimes will never excuse Che's barbarity. You wouldn't want to live in the world he sought to impose upon millions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:14 PM on 04/19/2008

Facts pulled straight out of your ass. Proof please. Something not written by the CIA.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 PM on 04/19/2008

YOU'RE country?

Are you a Native American?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 04/19/2008

All humans outside of the Rift Valley in Africa are descended from immigrants.

By the time Europeans came to the western hemisphere, there had been thousands of years of war and conquest in the Americas - we have no idea who the actual "first" people were to arrive in any part of the Americas.

War and carnage are never right. The horrible treatment of those already here by the European immigrants was repulsive and savage, and inexcusable. But "Native Americans" are not native to these continents, and do not have a less bloody history than the Europeans. If you think Native Americans lived in peace and harmony with each other and with nature before Europeans came, you have been reading too much fiction and too little history.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 PM on 04/19/2008

The films should come out when they do!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 AM on 04/19/2008

Che was called a revoultionary but he was more or less a terrorist, fomenting murder and violence in South America, as much as we did. He shouldn't be idolized but recognized for the guerilla/terrorist he was. He was no more a hero than his brother Fidel Castro is. Both have wrought terror against their people and tried to do it throughout Latin America. They're as misrerable a bunch as Batista and his gangsters were and as much as our government was and is now in regards to Bush and Cheney ursuping the Constitution for terror by outsourcing torture, and when we were directly reponsible for the murder of Salvador Allende..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 AM on 04/19/2008

Terrorists? You mean like the Israelis against the British in the early part of the century?

Interesting...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 AM on 04/19/2008

I was thinking more like Obama Bud Bill Ayres.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 AM on 04/19/2008

I suppose fomenting happiness and peace against American-backed, blood soaked military Juntas would have been your choice? The violence of poverty and racism, all hallmarks of this system, enforced by ignorance and violence is 'just as bad' eh? People taking arms to oppose this 'are just terrorists', right? Torture and rape, napalm and cluster bombs, starvation and death squads, these are to be fought with sit ins are they? Wake up....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 AM on 04/19/2008

Wow you convinced me. Viva fidel! Movin' to Cuba...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 AM on 04/19/2008

You have a point. Too bad its at the top of your head...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 AM on 04/19/2008

"As utopian as Che"s dreams may have been, as utopian as a world of peace and plenty for all may seem, no social justice is possible without a vision like Che"s."

~ Fabian Wigmister

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 AM on 04/19/2008

Che is unlike every Post-WW II American President, who hire CIA thugs to do all their murdering in the name of an ideology for them. Or worse yet, they recruit working class Americans and let them die in droves to prop up someone else's bottom line and stock prices, instead. Unlike chicken hawks like Rumsfeld, Cheney, Bremer, Wolfowitz, and Bush, he walked it like he talked it. And make no mistake, the same kind of people he fought for then are not that different than the same kind of people shooting at soldiers in Bagdad,.So where exactly has this policy of illegal wars and CIA-sponsored terrorism
gotten the cause of "freedom" and "capitalism" anyway? There are more Che's out there than there are Chicken-hawked Bushes. The more you attempt to squash the will of the people just to make a few bucks for your corporatists buddies, the more the people will resist with increasingly deadlier methods.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 AM on 04/19/2008

Where are the Che's of Today?

Pounding on their keyboards on HuffPo???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 AM on 04/19/2008

"Where are the Che's of Today?"

Good question. It's not like we wouldn't need them.
You, of course, would want them dead before they start doing anything.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 PM on 04/19/2008

American Presidents don't use CIA thugs to do all their murdering in the name of an ideology. They do it for the sake of power and money.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 04/19/2008

Liberals love them some Che.

Class struggle has always held a particularly special place in their mis-guided hearts.

Class struggle perpetuated by an agent of despotism? Even better.


Now,let me guess the responses,just for sh*ts and giggles.......Bush blah blah bla...Cheney blah blah
illegal war blah blah blah blah.....wireblah blah tapping...

Go on,perform for me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 AM on 04/19/2008

Perhaps you should start by getting your arguments organized and then learn how to write them down in a coherent manner. This is of course impossible because the concepts and logic behind your arguments are as incoherent and baseless as they are risible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 AM on 04/19/2008