What Does the Petraeus Appointment Mean?

Posted April 23, 2008 | 12:06 PM (EST)



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General Petraeus has been tapped to be the next commander of CENTCOM, which leads to a number of quick questions / observations.

First, it'll be interesting to see how he handles the tension of Afghanistan and Iraq from that position since Gates, Mullen and Fallon have all made clear that Iraq is hurting our mission in Afghanistan. Somehow I have a feeling that he will advise that we continue to place all of our strategic eggs in the Iraq basket.

Second, the confirmation hearings should give Democrats an opportunity to finally get Petraeus to answer some central questions. Is the mission in Iraq hurting Afghanistan and Pakistan? What is the central front in the fight against Al Qaeda? What about our overstretched forces? Is Iraq making America safer? Petraeus was able to dodge (Somewhat legitimately) on a number of these questions in the past by arguing that this wasn't his job. Well, now it is. So he really needs to answer.

Third, there was speculation that Petraeus was going to move off to NATO right around January. This guarantees that if there is a Democratic administration, Petraeus may end up playing a central role in helping design an exit strategy. Of course, in testimony last month he brought into question whether he'd actually be willing to do that. Which is huge, and must be asked again during the hearings.

Finally, there is the question of how many quotes Mike O'Hanlon will get today in the media. Because naturally, that's the only military expert worth talking to. I'm hoping we see some comments from Andrew Bacevich, Larry Korb, Tammy Schultz, Michele Flournoy, Tony Cordesman and a slew of retired generals (Who aren't part of the Pentagon media strategy). But I doubt we'll see that.


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It used tok be in America, that you had to succeed at one level before you got promoted to the next. Betrayus got what he wanted out of the "surge".

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 AM on 04/24/2008


First, second, third, and finally, the General got the job by saying what the President wants to hear. When questioned, he will tell the Congress what it wants to hear, as long as it's also what the White House wants to hear.

Get real.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 AM on 04/24/2008

GWB is hoping to leave just enough Loyal Bushies permanantly entrenched in our government so that if the next administration tries to change his failed policies The Loyal Bushies(his own brand of jhadists)can blow themselves up and derail the process.Neocons Serve The Machine That Empowers Them!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 04/24/2008

Grow a spine Democrats.

Impeach the criminals Bush and Cheney.

Grow a spine Democrats.

Impeach the criminals Bush and Cheney.

Grow a spine Democrats.

Impeach the criminals Bush and Cheney.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 AM on 04/24/2008

And a question for you, Ilan Goldenberg. Do you support the "fight" against Al Qaeda or is it merely a convenient straw man to oppose Iraq?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:03 AM on 04/24/2008

Petraeus is a yes-man. He was promoted as the final piece in the OIL 2 (Operation Iranian Liberation) puzzle. Does anyone want to put down odds he becomes our nations first 6-star General?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 AM on 04/24/2008

Brother Ilan, you are sarcastically brilliant.

The hearings will indeed give the Democrats an opportunity to get Petraus to finally answer some key questions.

Getting an opportunity and taking advantage of one are of course two different things.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 AM on 04/24/2008



The Basra desertions in the heat of a major battle cast fresh doubt on the effectiveness of the American-trained Iraqi security forces.

A reported asked: "Who was in charge of training the Iraqi forces"?

Answer: "General Petraeus was in charge in 2004 and 2005"

What was General Petraeus' primary mission when assigned to Iraq in Feb. 2007?

Asnswer: General Petraeus's Primary Mission was to Secure Baghdad to allow the Iraqi Governemet a secure envirnment to pas key legislation.
Status: The Iraqi Govenment has passed 5 of 18 key legislations.
Over the past 3 days several US Troops and over a dozen Civilians have been KILLED and WOUNDED in THE GREEN ZONE!!
Basra and Mosel remain the most dangerous places in Iraq slightly behind Baghdad.

In June 2004, less than six months after the 101st returned to the U.S., Petraeus was promoted to lieutenant general ( 2 Star ) and charged with the task of training the new Iraqi Army and security forces as commander of the Multi-National Security Transition Command Iraq.

Petraeus returned to Iraq in February 2007 ( as a 4 Star General ) to lead the "SURGE". He commands 650,000 Allied and Iraqi Forces that are trying to "DEFEAT" 6000 Al Qaida Terrorists that want to come to the United States and KILL Americans.
Sadr City is about to EXPLODE.
Petraeus is scheduled to return to the US later this year (MAY) with a PROMOTION to 5 Stars.

Give ME a BREAK!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 AM on 04/24/2008

Hard to ignore concrete progress like this.

Imagine what Iraq will be like if McCrazy has his way and we're there 100 years.

(It will take one heck of an imagination!)

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:00 AM on 04/24/2008

And Fifth... The question you fail to ask:

Why did Fallon suddenly resign shortly after testifying before congress that we don't have have enough troops to continue the war?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 04/23/2008

Can someone substantiate the claim that before Petraeus was sent to Iraq that he worked in the office of a Republican lawmaker?

I know I saw something about that on TV or maybe on TV in dreamland but I believe it was on PBS's POV or something. Not so sure. If that were the case, are there not a lot of generals that are being over looked? No wonder a bunch of generals are retiring. You just can't pick juniors to command seniors.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 PM on 04/23/2008

Even Petraeus isn't nuts enough to go along with hitting Iran, hopefully.

Remember, officers in the military get their commissions from Congress, and what Congress bestow, Congress can take away.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 PM on 04/23/2008
Moderator's Pick

HuffPost's Pick

Although I agree in various degrees with your reasons for Petraeus's promotion, I don't believe that any of them is the primary reason. That dubious honor should be reserved for the President needing another candidate for history to shove under the bus. In terms of its stated purpose "The Surge" by any account was a complete failure. It moved us not one step closer to ending the war and it shoved Iraq not one step closer to toeing the line that we arrogantly drew before it. "Stay the Course" has proven to be nothing more than an abstract delusion and not the substantive strategy that we all hoped it would be. With there being virtually no chance of us achieving military victory in the region because no military objectives have been stated, it is certainly in Bush's historical best interest to train our focus on the Central Command and put a face to it for history to blame for our ever mounting blunders as he slips away to a tranquil, bucolic retirement in Crawford.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 04/23/2008

HUFFPOST apparently chooses to promote a limited and bland interpretation of the reason for the Petreaus promotion. Namely, that the primary motive behind the promotion is to help assure Bush"s "place in history" during his "bucolic retirement". That view too casually ignores the likelihood that the Petreaus promotion may have a much more ominous significance.

Neither the Huffpost Goldenberg article, nor the "Huffpost pick" comment mentions Petreaus" unflagging support for the phoney neoCON argument that problems in Iraq are not caused by resistance to foreign US occupation, but instead by "meddling" of Iran.
The greater likelihood of the cause for the promotion is that Petreaus is replacing Fallon in order to facilitate aggression against Iran.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/JD25Ak01.html

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 PM on 04/24/2008


I have 2 questions about this.
Why doesn't the demos question Petraeus about his op-ed article supporting Bush for reelection in 2004? The obviously partisan general might have problems supporting a CiC from across the aisle.
More importantly, the dems should put a hold on his appointment until the whitehouse comes up with the emails they refuse to submit and the testimony from Miers and Bolten they refuse to allow. Congress should give back to the whitehouse exactly what they have been getting!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 04/23/2008

Great questions - the real answer is this man is just a political sell-out positioning himself for the promotion and transition to a cushy Contractor Position - Bush will use him to stall and fog the details, prolonging this quagmire long enough to get out of office and leave the mess OR have Yes Man positioned to take Cheneys order to Invade IRAN . . . either way the RepubliCONS win.

Betrayus steps up in position over the bodies of real heroes.

The Dems cannot stop the shit until they have the power - THEN we investigate, prosecute and IMPRISON (to late for "Exit Pardon" all around)

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:26 AM on 04/24/2008

Thought you had something NEW to say, but, Oh well same old tired progressive whining.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 PM on 04/23/2008

as opposed to all the conservative success you can point to,eh ChiMan1?Oh right I forgot.Republicans have the best of both worlds:They Get To Make The Mess Then Bitch About What A Poor Job The Democrats Do Cleaning It Up.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 AM on 04/24/2008

I see this as an open door to take on Iran before November 2008. This bushbot will do what the incredible idiot in the wh wants. Bush is just setting the stage. WHERE O WHERE are the retired generals/admirals. Will the MSM have enough strength, smarts and fortitude to interview them non stop ad nauseum. Oh...I didn't think so.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:06 PM on 04/23/2008

They'll approve his nomination because if they don't the Republicans will have a field day accusing them of putting our nation's security at risk, politicizing the military blah blah blah.

Only two real choices before us. Stay the course which will drain us dry and still may not succeed or pull the plug and wish the Iraqis all the best. Second option isn't even possible unless we get a Democrat in the White House and gain more seats in Congress. Even then it might not happen, but it's what needs to happen.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:27 PM on 04/23/2008

It means that the Bush-Petrayus Doctrine now covers more territory. It will mean a more diverse group of non-answers and a much larger amount of drivel. Like Gonzaales with brass. Gen. Petrayus has been lauded as a great general by who?? Bush and the neoconmen, that's who. Maybe now, they will explain that by invading Iran, they will cut the war fronts from two to one. Since Iran is between Iraq and Afghanistan, Iran would unite the two fronts and make the war on terror closer to being won by reducing it to one front.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:07 PM on 04/23/2008

An ass kisser can go a long way in the Bush administration. This is worse than the Harriet Miers appointment

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 PM on 04/23/2008

Yes, and speaking of asses, you can bet your ass that the Democrats will be too dumb to pin the jerk against the wall.

SAD AND SHAME.... eh?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:33 PM on 04/23/2008

Since Petraeus is largely a rubber-stamp general, expanding his authority means there will be less independent oversight over whatever the Bush White House decides to do. This course of action would be in line with what the GOP has done in the past - do what they want, and to hell with what makes sense, to hell with what senior military staff advise, or with what the American people want.

One very scary scenario would be an expansion of Bush's war into Iran. Since Petraeus' job depends on his parroting whatever his boss wants him to say, this new move could make it easier to create a smoke screen behind which the GOP could justify a wider war, using the oft-repeated lie that they are following advice from the general "on the ground".

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 04/23/2008

Iran has been at war with the United States since 1979. Yes, I know that we meddled in their affairs since the 1950's. The Cold War had many negative side affects. I get tired of the rants that portray us as looking for a Gulf of Tonkin incident to justify the invasion of Iraq's peaceful neighbor. Can we acknowledge that Iran sends men/materials into Iraq to kill Americans and destabilize the country? I have no beef with the Iranian people but their government's involvement is evil. I know a lot of you think the same of the US but I don't believe that would be an honest comparison. There are many faults with how the war was conceived and executed by the Administration, no doubt. But the hate America first philosophy is going to get us exterminated by those who take advantage of our love for flagellism.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 04/23/2008

Before we attack Iran, lets attack the provider of most of the military materials being used against the US. Oh, and the nation that funded 9-11. Oh, and the nation that gave us Bin Ladin, 19 of the 23 hijackers, and that has national funding for the Wahibist sect that believes that all christians should be killed (and teaches that america is the great satan in schools). Invade Saudi Arabia first!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 04/23/2008

"I know that we tampered in their affairs..." "I get tried of rants..." "Their government's involvement is evil..." So if our government does it it isn't "evil." But the comparison isn't "fair."

You are talking yourself into circles morally and ethically. This isn't about "hating America first" but in not having to hate anyone, first, second or last. They don't hate us for our freedoms. They hate us for our "double talk." I am sure if a foreign country came and overthrew our country and took our resources for a song, you would not so soon forget. The British wanted our assistance in 1953 because they lost out on the Saudi connection when FDR aced out Churchill on the meeting on the U.S.S. Murphy. So the CIA did a "favor" for the "poor" British. Why do they hate us? Because people are clueless. The British were our enemies in two wars, 1776 and 1812. In 1814 the British burned the White House down and killed Americans. They also had a colonial empire for centuries.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 04/23/2008

Coming Soon to an Exxon near you...$9.99/gal regular unleaded.
All these yahoos in their f-250s and Yukons and Escalades can enlist in Bush's folly.
Who's in charge of what doesn't matter, so long as we stay in Iraq.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 PM on 04/23/2008

Those suv's will make some awesome planters in folks backyards.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 PM on 04/23/2008

Betrayus got the job because he's the president's A#1 fig-leaf. He's being kicked upstair to pad his resume for eventual elected office on the Republican ticket a la Eisenhower. All he's ever going to do in both theatres is stall-stall-stall. Run out the clock, as they say in sports. And the Congressional hearing are going to be a frickin' joke. For ever hard question he gets (answered with evasions and lies) he's going to get two fawning testimonials to his greatness, mostly from McCain.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 PM on 04/23/2008

To summarize what has already been said, the Petraeus appt means that The Decider is planning to go out with a bang ala bombing Iran. God I hope that we're wrong. When will this nightmare end?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 PM on 04/23/2008

"Petraeus appt means that The Decider is planning to go out with a bang ala bombing Iran. God I hope that we're wrong."

I too hope that we're wrong...but we have already witnessed how much damage Bush can do in a very short period of time. The crazed neocons are ramping up their rationale for an invasion of Iran - that much is clear.

"When will this nightmare end?"

Hopefully before Bush and his cronies can make our lives worse.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 04/23/2008

Nothing, the administration has found a dummy who will do whatever he is told and they will milk this COW until he runs dry.

He is one only a handful of puppets who likes these wars and kisses W butt, no matter what. So he'll be around with whatever label and whatever capacity.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 04/23/2008

Yes, the Democrats do not have the BALLS to kick his ass out...shame.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 PM on 04/23/2008

Why do the Congressional GOP cheerleaders ignore their sworn oath to support and defend The Constitution and allow this criminal administration to go unchecked?

Maybe they are protecting themselves. Jack Abramoff and Duke Cunningham didn"t work in a vacuum.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 04/23/2008
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