Kids Be Gone: High Pitch Only Teens Can Hear Used As Deterrent (AUDIO)

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As 15-year-old Eddie Holder sprinted from his apartment for school one recent morning, he held his hand to one ear to block out a shrill, piercing noise.

The sound was coming from a wall-mounted box, but not everyone can hear it. The device, called the Mosquito, is audible only to teens and young adults and was installed outside the building to drive away loiterers.

The gadget made its debut in the United States last year after infuriating civil liberties groups when it was first sold overseas. Already, almost 1,000 units have been sold in the U.S. and Canada, according to Daniel Santell, the North America importer of the device under the company name Kids Be Gone.

See if you can hear the Mosquito pitch:

To Eddie, it's tormenting.

"It's horrible, loud and irritating," he said. "I have to hurry out of the building because it's so annoying. It's this screeching sound that you have to get away from, or it will drive you crazy."

The high-frequency sound has been likened to fingernails dragged across a chalkboard or a pesky mosquito buzzing in your ear. It can be heard by most people in their teens and early 20s who still have sensitive hair cells in their inner ears. Whether you can hear the noise depends on how much your hearing has deteriorated -- how loud you blast your iPod, for example, could potentially affect your ability to detect it.

Civil liberties groups in England, Australia and Scotland have expressed outrage over the device, and England's government-appointed Children's Commission proposed a ban. They describe it as a weapon that infringes on the basic rights of young people, and claim it could even have unknown long-term health effects.

The $1,500 device has also been challenged in some American cities and towns that have proposed installing it, with some criticizing the tactic as needlessly cruel.

Santell said the noise can be heard by animals and babies, but is bothersome only to children older than 12 and becomes unbearable after several minutes, making it a perfect teen-repellent. The same sound is also used as a cell phone ring tone meant to fall on the deaf ears of adults, and is a popular download on the Internet.

The town of Great Barrington, Mass., banned the device last year after a movie theater owner installed one.

"There was an outcry, and people didn't like the idea of torturing kids' ears like that," said Ronald Dlugosz, a town official. "People here don't tolerate that kind of stuff."

Milford, Conn. faced similar resistance when the city announced plans to install the Mosquito in a park. They increased police patrols instead.

Elsewhere, there have been few or no complaints. A mall in Calvert County, Md., announced plans to introduce the buzz to disperse skateboarders, and officials and police said they haven't had any outcry. A school district in Columbia, S.C. recently installed one on the front grill of a school vehicle and another in a parking lot where students gather after high school games, with no complaints.

"We'd have crowds gather in parking lots and there'd be the usual trash talk, then you'd have fights," said Rick McGee, the school district's emergency services manager. "Now there's no confrontation at all, they just get aggravated and leave within a few minutes."

Santell, the device's marketer, said most of the company's inquiries are from major corporations and government agencies looking for a way to protect private property. Overseas, complaints arose when the device was projected into public spaces, like sidewalks.

Santell said it does not violate any noise ordinances, but added that the company will soon be selling the same product with a higher "power," or decibel output, that will only be sold to government agencies.

Carmen Ramirez, superintendent of the Queens apartment building where Eddie lives that recently installed the Mosquito, described it as "a miracle."

"We used to have young men here all of the time, bothering people in the building and doing illegal things," said Ramirez, 50. "As soon as we put it up, they were gone and they haven't been back. If they return, we'll just put up more."

A spokesman for the American Civil Liberties Union said the organization does not yet have a position on the issue. But James Alan Fox, a criminologist at Northeastern University, said crowd-monitoring devices in the hands of private businesses and citizens is "dangerous."

"There is a significant problem with giving people a tool like this and empowering the public to take over the tasks of law enforcement," Fox said. "It can certainly be used in a way that's inappropriate, and without a doubt it will be."

Nobody at the Queens apartment building could say where the loitering kids had gone after the Mosquito was installed.

"I just deal with it, but I can't be around here for too long," Eddie Holder said. "If I am going to stand around somewhere, it won't be here."

 
 

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the sound in the vid is not working

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 AM on 04/25/2008

Just another facet of the NIMBY (Not In My Back Yard) mindset. You have the kids, you raise the kids, but you dont want to deal with the kids in their "troubled" years so you try to deafen them instead.

So now where are the kids going? You've scattered them to other places and spent $1500 on a device instead of on a place for these kids to hang out because you dont want to deal with them.

So a few years from now your business goes under because you've ostracized all your up-and-coming customers with some dumb sound to keep them away during their "non-consumer" years. No one with a family wants to move into your building because the babies cry all night. No one wants to play around your building, they just want to lash out at it in frustrated anger because of some high pitched sound.

Sounds like a great solution all around...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 AM on 04/24/2008

Must suck to be home sick and have to listen to that noise all day especially if you or your parents pay rent there.

If you don't like loitering outisde your business put up a sign and then call the police for trespassing. If you don't like loitering outside your apartment complex put a stipulation into the lease and then evict them if they continue to break the rules, or if they are not residents call police for trespassing.

All this does is punish people who may have a legitimate and legal reason to be there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 AM on 04/24/2008

At first glance at the title of this article, I thought that they were going to use that guy "High Pitch Eric" from Howard Stern to discourage kids from loitering.... I think all they would have to is plant him in a parking lot or something and that would be it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 AM on 04/24/2008

A better technique would've been playing classical music, something else that drives teens nuts but is very pleasant to everyone else. This technique was employed brilliantly by a McDonald's in downtown Dallas a few years ago and the loitering problem was solved almost within a day! Also, the ACLU would
have no problem with an effort to improve the musical sensibilities of our younger generation, would they?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 04/24/2008

The English are a bunch of Orwellian, submissive cowards,...and we're following right in their footsteps.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 AM on 04/24/2008

Ah, more freedom. And more litigation. How long before someone develops tinnitus, if not partial hearing loss?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 AM on 04/24/2008



ABC's post-Koppel Nightline has something (a bad digital approximation of a triangle, maybe?) in the opening theme music that does an excellent job of driving me away, and CNBC has some stuff that's apparently supposed to alert you to a change of graphics that got really old really fast.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 AM on 04/24/2008

In my humble opinion no one can hear the audio of 15khz or better from this video because the audio has been compressed; Mp3 has No scale factor band for frequencies above 15.5/15.8 kHz. YOUR HEARING IS FINE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 PM on 04/23/2008

Im 25 and I thought I had the hearing of a 50 year old, but he's right, that video is just inaccurate.

This country is such a mess though, I still remember how "adults" (bored cops mostly) used to torment my friends and I as teenagers, for skateboarding or loitering or whatever, and all it did was make us hate authority even more. Plus we got a lot of good laughs out of it. What a bunch of neo-fascist bullsh*t this high-pitch idea is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:14 PM on 04/24/2008

Gee, sorry ari, I'm 50 years old and heard it clear as a bell. An annoying bell, but clearly audible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 AM on 04/24/2008

and clearly it's a tone not a bell. You should get your hearing checked

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 PM on 04/24/2008

So it's ok to treat young people like animals? I wouldn't be surprised if this device leads to a spike in vandalism among business or institutions that use it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 04/23/2008

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This country treats everybody like animals. This is just the latest example.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 PM on 04/23/2008

As a professional musician who CAN hear sounds at those levels I HATE this idea with a passion. I will never shop at a store that uses that thing. Too freakin annoying. And yes the sound on computer speakers is a joke but I could hear it on my recording studio monitors so it wasn't YouTube

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 PM on 04/23/2008

Mp3 the encoder that youtube uses has No scale factor band for frequencies above 15.5/15.8 kHz. Maybe that's just buzz on you computer speakers not tone :D

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 PM on 04/23/2008

Really? While watching this video I couldn't hear 15khz or above on my computer. I thought I was going deaf until i downloaded a tone generator, I can hear 19khz just fine through my computer after that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 PM on 04/23/2008

actually 18khz

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 AM on 04/24/2008

The funny thing about this... us whipersnapers use these cool little white boxes that destroy our auditory senses... also known as an iPod.... im 20 and i could only hear the 50 and under tone... im very sad now....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 PM on 04/23/2008

Same. 23. Damn.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 PM on 04/23/2008

At my workplace about 7 or 8 years ago there was a hight pitch sound coming over a video monitor. The younger people there noticed it and they could all hear it.

I didn't make the cut. : (

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 PM on 04/23/2008



If it was coming from the video monitor itself, and not through a speaker, then it was probably magnetostriction in the horizontal sweep output section. This used to be a problem with some television receivers back in the day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 AM on 04/24/2008

that is wrong on somany levels.... I can see more Old People being put in nursing home for things like this in about 20 years....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 PM on 04/23/2008

Fuck, that hurts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 PM on 04/23/2008

Forget about the high pitch sound, I couldn't read the small print!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:35 PM on 04/23/2008

LOL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 PM on 04/23/2008

Hm .... now if you can just give me a device that broadcasts that tone through the headphones of any iPod within 50-100 feet ......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:26 PM on 04/23/2008

That's hilarious!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:18 PM on 04/23/2008

Phew I though I was going deaf, but I think Youtube cut 15khz due to a low bandwith.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 PM on 04/23/2008

cuts out at*

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 PM on 04/23/2008

That video is nonsense. It tells you nothing about your hearing. All it's demonstrating is the poor high-frequency response of your cheap computer speakers.

There's no good reason that a simple audio oscillator should sell for $1500. Any EE student could build one for a few dollars.

On top of all the questions about rights that it raises, there is already a proven low-cost way to keep annoying teenagers from hanging around--play classical music. All you need is a radio (or a CD player if you don't have a classical radio station). There's a laundromat not two blocks from here that has been doing that successfully for years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:10 PM on 04/23/2008

I'm 29 and i hear it just fine. Hooray for me!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 PM on 04/23/2008

No you didn't!

Well, okay maybe you did.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 PM on 04/23/2008

Why don't they just use tear gas? ++smirk++

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 04/23/2008
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