The New York Times is Wrong

Posted April 24, 2008 | 02:52 PM (EST)



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Yesterday morning, the New York Times wrote an editorial widely decrying tactics used in the recently completed Pennsylvania primary. The article specifically focused on Hillary Clinton and her use of negative campaign tactics to undermine Senator Barack Obama in the waning days of that state's contest. The Times criticized the tone and content of the campaign, focusing particularly on the rhetoric and advertisements of Senator Clinton.

The Times is wrong because, but for that communication, the primary almost certainly would have been closer than it proved to be. Exit polls showed that while both candidates were seen as having leveled unfair attacks, the 46% who said that negative advertisements impacted their vote broke overwhelmingly for Senator Clinton.

Senator Clinton's margin had dropped to low, single-digits earlier last week when she was in danger of being overwhelmed by Senator Obama's 2.5-3 to 1 advantage in media advertising and campaign spending. Senator Clinton then successfully framed the race as a referendum on Senator Obama and his values, particularly with regards to his comments about Americans being bitter and clinging to guns and religion as a means of dealing with that bitterness. By doing so, she was able to win substantial victories, not only with working-class voters, but with working-class male voters, a key constituency that she needed to win. Her supporters were clearly energized, as she raised $3.5 million in the hours after winning the primary, marking her best overnight performance ever.

The lessons of Pennsylvania are clear for her going forward. She must continue on a negative or a comparative theme if she is to win the upcoming primaries. After running a negative campaign, candidates are frequently tempted to turn back to a positive track to avoid criticism from the media. Given the deficit that Senator Clinton faces in states won, the popular vote and pledged delegates, she does not have this luxury. She must continue to draw contrasts with Senator Obama, raise questions about the nature and extent of his associations with Reverend Wright and terrorist leader William Ayers, and raise more questions about his values in comparison with hers.

Having done 15 years of successful Democratic campaigns in Indiana, I can say with confidence that negative campaigning works effectively with Hoosier voters. Voters in the southern part of the state are very much akin to southern white voters, who have given an overwhelmingly large amount of support to Senator Clinton. They will be quite susceptible to her values-based argument about the flawed candidacy of Senator Obama. Voters in the northwestern part of the state, particularly white, working-class voters, will also be responsive to this appeal, along with Senator Clinton's appeal on economic issues relating to the almost-certain recession. Thus, experience and my own political history suggest that this is the only direction and approach Senator Clinton can take to maximize her chance of success.

There will be ample time once the nominee is decided upon, most likely in June, for the Democratic Party to come together. With only around 20% of each candidate's supporters defecting to John McCain, there is every indication that when the two candidates consolidate once the primary season is over, the Democratic support will coalesce around the nominee. It will further coalesce if we have an Obama-Clinton or Clinton-Obama ticket, which is increasingly likely. But for now, Senator Clinton has in large part adopted the advice offered in my Washington Post op-ed piece last week. If she is to make the most of her chance for success, she must continue with the same tactics.

Carly Cooperman contributed to this article.



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Mr. Schoen is right and The New York Times is wrong only if one subscribes to the notion that it is appropriate for a Democratic contender to stoop in order to conquer, something Senator Clinton has done repeatedly throughout the course of this campaign.

Also, to say that white voters will be "susceptible to Clinton's 'values-based' arguments about Obama's 'flawed candidancy'" is a page right out of Karl Rove's play book. There was a time when all Democrats would have found this kind of rhetoric repugnant, especially when directed at another Democrat. I, for one, have grown weary with Rovian-style gutter politics. Obama represents hope for change in that respect - Senator Clinton just more of the same.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 AM on 04/27/2008

97% black people vote for Obama !!! Is not racial vote???

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 PM on 04/27/2008

The Clinton's have values?

I must have missed that.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 PM on 04/27/2008

i'd vote for either obama or clinton in a heartbeat. i just wish i could do it NOW. can we just end this primary nonsense, please? the superdelegates could be forced to cast their votes and then we can all focus on assassinating mccain's character. agreed?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 04/25/2008

So she can continue her scorched-earth, character assassination of the democrat nominee, right? Why do you think John McCain hasn't announced a running-mate yet? I still think it's because Hillary becomes that running-mate if she can't get the dem nomination by hook or by crook. Retty close, those two.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 AM on 04/25/2008

The prescription called for ought to be applied to Mrs. Clinton as well. This blogger should advocate that the media start questioning Hillary as to why she would live with Bill after his extra-marital affairs and his lying. They should grill her on the file that mysteriously showed up in the White House, the scandals that broke while there, and of course the suspected murder of Vince Foster- naturally this blogger will cheer the media on and Clintonistas will appreciate the delicious state of affairs we find ourselves in.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 AM on 04/25/2008

Paul Krugman writes in today's, New York Times, an outstanding piece on this very subject.
Senator Clinton is bashed non-stop for "attacking" Obama - this is absurd. What attacks?
When did pointing out the record or no-record of one's opponent become an "attack'?

When did forcing one's opponent to answer questions that he avoids and won't answer - an attack?
In the debate, one saw the real Obama, a guy who is visibly annoyed when he is asked a question. How dare anyone actually ask St. Obama a question? He reminded us of another cocky guy - he acted exactly like that other arrogrant and cocky guy - named George Bush.

Obama's relationships with a string of unsavory characters - tell us about OBAMA'S JUDGEMENT,
so does his "NON-PRESENT" votes, so does his LIES - here are some of them: He told the people
of Illinois - "I will not run for President in 2008," "I only worked with Resko for 5 hours," He lied about not seeing a piece of legislation, that has his signature on it. And on and on.... This guy's JUDGEMENT tells us everything we need to know about him.
His "hitting the wrong buttons" when he was actually "present" to vote. Do you want this guy's
shaky hand near "buttons?" His wife, she said, "we won't do this again."
Now if that doesn't sound like - we are "entitled" - what does?
If the Democrats are dumb enough to actually nominate this guy, they will

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 AM on 04/25/2008

You really want to get into a discussion of Obama's "relationships with unsavory characters?" Really? Cause I'm not sure that that's an argument that the Clinton people can win.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:59 PM on 04/27/2008

We're still waiting for the final bid on
Jennifer Flower's phone sex tapes
featuring Bill's heavy breathing.

Do we really need two people so subject
to blackmail in the People's House?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 AM on 04/28/2008

not much on researech are you

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 AM on 04/27/2008

ah, another "ends justifies the means" proponent. how proud you must be. perhaps you should go to the left column and read the piece on generation jones.

the old politics of the has-beens is so obviously not good for america. and here you are saying essentially "give us more." jeez.

please move out of the way for the new generation of folks who have to deal with what your generation has given us. we don't want anymore of it. recognize when you are in the way and holding up progress, it's the least you can do for the people of this country, and the world.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 AM on 04/25/2008

Schoen=Penn=Garin=Scum

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 AM on 04/25/2008

Hillary reminds me of Scarlett O'Hara in "Gone with the wind"

"---- If I have to lie, cheat or steal ( by God I'll be the next President of the United States)
But then again Scarlett was hungry. What is Hillary's excuse for telling lies, cheating and stealing. I mean she is the most UNSCRUPULOUS and SCARIEST person that ever ran for office. Can't people SEE that?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 AM on 04/25/2008

In the interest of full disclosure, you need to indicate that the only way you're going to get a paycheck for your hitjob on America is if you can persuade enough racists to give money to Hillary. She'll still lose but you'll be taken care of.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 AM on 04/25/2008

Why don't columnists and media pundits have to disclose their affliations past and present? I think MSNBC should run, "The virulently right-wing Pat Buchanan failed in his bid for the Republican Presidential nomination, and his Culture War speech at the 1992 Republican Convention, in which he marginalized women, blacks and gays, helped turn the tide for Bill Clinton's election." And certainly we should know that this columnist Doug Schoen was an advisor to President Clinton from 1994 to 2000.

BTW Pat Buchanan also said this in 1992: "Bill Clinton's foreign policy experience is pretty much confined to having had breakfast once at the Intl. House of Pancakes....
Elect me, and you get two for the price of one, Mr Clinton says of his lawyer-spouse. And what does Hillary believe? Well, Hillary believes that 12-year-olds should have a right to sue their parents, and she has compared marriage as an institution to slavery--and life on an Indian reservation...

Friends, this is radical feminism. The agenda Clinton & Clinton would impose on America--abortion on demand, a litmus test for the Supreme Court, homosexual rights, discrimination against religious schools, women in combat--that's change, all right. But it is not the kind of change America wants. It is not the kind of change America needs. And it is not the kind of change we can tolerate in a nation that we still call God's country."

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:32 PM on 04/26/2008

As a former Hoosier, Doug Shcoen is right about the attitudes of the Whites there. The inhabitants of Indiana are not the Quakers in "Friendly Persuasion" or the original Socialists of New Harmony. After the Civil War many inhabitants from Tennessee and Kentucky moved to southern Indiana. Since WWII the migration North from the South formed a large section of the "white blue collar" demographic, far more than in Pennsylvania. These same appeals will resonate, but may Hillary Democrats will be McCain Democrats in November.
Whomever is President in the next four years will face overwhelming problems. Bush has spent the last of any of this nation's wealth and bankrupt the country with the Iraq fiasco. The Clintons do not have any magic nor does anyone else. In fact, they are indebted to the same forces that put us in Iraq and will probably have us bombing Iran. Obama tells folks that "we" working together can "try" to solve our problems. Clinton appeals to the part of the populace that believes that a savior is available. Hence, she continually speaks of "I will do". Unfortunately, from my reading of history, a person like Hillary Clinton often becomes a demagogue and possibly a dictator.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 AM on 04/25/2008

Good post. I live near Pittsburgh. I have family that has moved from here to Indiana. Indiana is Pennsylvania...with money. The Klan in the 1920's was centered in Indiana if you know history. The same forces are at work there in the vote that were in psychological play in Pennsylvania. If it is very close or Obama wins, it could be a sign of his strength still in the cards. Hillary scares the living shit out of me. And I shook hands with her back in 1992 in McKeesport, PA.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 04/25/2008

Hillary's tactics are definitely having a psycholocial impact.

At the beginning of all this, I was excited that she was running and had a deep and abiding respect for Bill. I started listening to Obama and I read his book (which most of the MSM have not). As it went on, I was happy that either one would be great and felt very hopeful.

Fast-forward to today. I can't stand Hillary, not for her positions but for her tactics. She's lied to my face, twisted the facts in grotesquely obvious ways, and seems manically bent on winning at any cost (although I am glad she dropped that weird maniacal laughter thing). Bill has become a joke and maybe that's the saddest part.

Obama has stumbled a bit trying to counter Hillary's desperate mudslinging without sacrificing his principles but I look at him as someone I would trust and admire as president.

If Hillary finds some way, other than winning, to get nominated, I'll probably sit this one out, or write in Obama. I didn't used to feel that way.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 AM on 04/25/2008

This race is just what the MSM and the ill-informed American public love: good ole' political SPECTATOR SPORT! Obama's in the wrestling ring with one hand tied behind his back while being plummeled to death by both Hillary and McCain! The rules of the game for Hillary and McCain: there ARE NO RULES! Because he has called for us all to rise above the petty, frivolous, hateful issues that divide us,--the "rules" only apply to Obama. If he fights back, the referee (corporate-controlled MSM) starts screaming "rule infraction" and starts the count!

Why don't any damn rules apply to Hillary and McCain? Reminds one of how the Romans flocked by the thousands to their Coliseum to enjoy watching those insurrectionist Christians being eaten by the lions! Hmm, remember what happened to the Romans?

We get the leaders we deserve!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 AM on 04/25/2008

At least he's not married to Bill Clinton.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 04/25/2008

This is not a general election. You cannot solidify your negatives to that level in a primary and expect to win in the general as a democratic candidate. Republicans always seem to forget that democratic voters exhibit free will and don't just aimlessly fall in line regardless of disdain for their candidates. If she went nuclear it's likely she would cement the current proportion of Obama voters that won't cross over and pad that number considerably. Right now polling hasn't shown the youth vote turning on her in the general election, but if she went nuclear and McCain continued his change/bi-partisan rhetoric it is possible she could be the first democratic candidate in a long time to lose the youth vote.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 AM on 04/25/2008

A very interesting analysis.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 PM on 04/25/2008

Nice to see someone being open and honest about being evil. You're still a tool, but at least you're an honest one.

Folks, this is what you get with Hillary. She'll not only listen to such people, but they will assume places of importance in her administration. This guy would make a good substitute for Karl Rove, don't you think? Or, maybe the Attorney General's office.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 AM on 04/25/2008

Even if Hillary wins by continuing to "go negative," in the end she loses and the country loses. All she'll be doing is maintaining the status quo, because her continuous attempts to not defeat but destory Obama show only contempt for the electorate, and because she is campaiging just like Bush, she will surely govern just like Bush. The scandals and gridlock will continue and we will continue to be scorned by the rest of the world. Why doesn't Hillary's camp just forget all the slime and come out in say, it's all about the power? At least we could respect their honesty.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 AM on 04/25/2008

Honesty? LOL.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:39 AM on 04/25/2008

Can not hear when you sit in the Church!!!
Is this honesty

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 PM on 04/27/2008

Wow, just wow. Down and dirty framing reaches a new low. The fact that this guy represents the Hillary camp so openly, is conclusive proof that Hillary has gone over completely to the dark side.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 AM on 04/25/2008

Hence Forth you shall be called Darth HillBill :-)

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 AM on 04/25/2008

Hey Doug:

Hillary can continue to get down and dirty because she is desperate and has no shame. She is lucky that Obama has chosen not to TRULY go negative against her. Let's look at her character.

1) She talks freely about how she would have walked away if she had heard Rev. Wright say what he said at her church. Yet, 10 years ago, her husband humiliated her shamelessly and publicly and she did not walk away from him.

2) She told a baldfaced lie about her trip to Bosnia and, having got caught, she can't even admit that she told a baldfaced lie.

3) Forget what Bill said in SC. SHE continued to emphasize during her SC campaign that Obama is African American (I am the first woman and he is the first African American) in a blatant appeal to white voters.

4) What did she have to do her brother, Hugh Rodham's, scheme to sell pardons during the end of the Clinton Administration?

I could go on....

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 AM on 04/25/2008

"She must continue on a negative or a comparative theme if she is to win the upcoming primaries. "

That's one way to look at it.

Or she could decide not to drive away a whole new generation of Democrats.

Either way.

Let us know what you decide, Hill....

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 AM on 04/25/2008

Doug Schoen -- Now HERE is a political advisor par excellance. He was advising Bill Clinton when the Democrats lost the House to the Republicans in '94. Yeah, Hillary, this is your go-to guy. Ha Ha Ha.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 AM on 04/25/2008

Quoting Schoen:

"I can say with confidence that negative campaigning works effectively with Hoosier voters. Voters in the southern part of the state are very much akin to southern white voters, who have given an overwhelmingly large amount of support to Senator Clinton. They will be quite susceptible to her values-based argument about the flawed candidacy of Senator Obama. Voters in the northwestern part of the state, particularly white, working-class voters, will also be responsive to this appeal"

Isn't this comment the EPITOME of everything Obama was UNjustifiably castigated for saying in San Francisco? Only, his comments--in NO way condescending or "bigoted"-- advised his campaign workers how to best address the ingrained attitudes affecting the response of some groups of voters in PA.

LOOK OUT, you "Hoosier voters", you "southern white voters", you "white, working-class voters: you will be "QUITE SUSCEPTIBLE to Hillary's "values-based" arguments (you know them: guns, gays, religion, abortion, illegal "aliens", flag pins, etc.)! Never mind the wrecked economy, our trashed Constitution, the war she voted for, the nuclear war against Iran she's not opposed to---vote your "VALUES", folks!

------And you and Hillary have the unadulterated GALL to call Obama "ELITIST"?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 PM on 04/24/2008

druidlady42,

Absolutely spot on post! I think I love you.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 PM on 04/25/2008

The difference is, Shoen fleshed out Obama's point without leaving a convenient sound bite. He actually shows contempt for them and can get away with it because it's hard to find a two or three word sound bite in his insults. That's why he and buddy Penn are getting $10 million from Hillary to post here, they're real professional Rove-league players. This is what Hillary means by "experience". Knowing how to spit on people and not get caught.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 AM on 04/25/2008

Oh no, there is a big difference.

Obama indicated that they had been duped by politicians, and that he was genuinely interested in improving their lives. BAD

Schoen is saying, if they are so easily duped, let's use it to our advantage. GOOD.

As our coach used to say before the game, "Remember, it matters not if you win or lose, but how you play the game. Now get in there and get down and dirty and win this one or I'll kick your asses!" Of course we said a prayer first.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 04/25/2008

Clinton surrogates need a reality check. Hillary didn't win TX. She didn't win PA by big double digit margin. It is impossible for her to overtake Obama's delegate lead. She is finished.

It is time for Hillary surrogates to start being good democrats and that means supporting our nominee Barack Obama.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 PM on 04/24/2008