The Undeniable Virtue of Jeremiah Wright's Pro-Blackness (and the Problem with Pro-Whiteness)

Posted April 25, 2008 | 02:51 PM (EST)



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Bill Moyers is broadcasting a siddown with Barack Obama's "controversial" pastor Jeremiah Wright this Friday evening, April 25th. By Saturday expect every utterance Pastor Wright makes to be as picked over as an episode of Lost at the San Diego Comicon.

Now, I'm not going to even try to defend everything that Pastor Wright has to say. At least not the four of five loopy sound bytes -- out of how many thousands of sermons he's given -- that have made him quite the YouTube sensation. But there is a particular aspect of the Wright mischaracterization I take exception with: the idea that his pro-black teachings make him some kind of radical separatist. Interviewing Pastor Wright in March of last year, for example, Fox's Sean Hannity had this to say about statements appearing on the website for Wright's Trinity United Church of Christ:

"It says, "Commitment to God." By the way, I'm with you, and I hope you'll pray for me, Reverend. Commitment to the black community, commitment to the black family, adherence to the black work ethic. It goes on, pledge, you know, acquired skills available to the black community, strengthening and supporting black institutions, pledging allegiance to all black leadership who have embraced the black value system, personal commitment to the embracement of the black value system. Now, Reverend, if every time we said black, if there was a church and those words were white, wouldn't we call that church racist?"

In answer to the question: yeah, probably. But that's 'cause there's a difference between being pro-black and pro-white and the difference is a bad one.

Adherence to pro-black values isn't code for "kill whitey." It's merely how blacks have managed to stay alive and viable in America all these many years since we were first graciously given a ride across the middle passage to get dropped off in Virginia.

"A commitment to the black community" is what got us collectively through slavery, through an abandoned reconstruction and the ensuing era of Jim Crow. As I'm sure some will recall, because of a pesky little thing called segregation there was nothing for the black community to rely on but the black community.

Ironically, the community values and focus on the family Wright preaches of are exactly the kind of "don't bother us, do it yourself"-isms conservatives are always hectoring people of color to observe. How convenient for the pundits they can both wish us off the perceived teat, then get riled by those who encourage us to be self-reliant.

To the contrary of pro-blackness, it's pro-whiteness which has unfortunately produced some awful to horrible results: white sheets and nooses and burning cross and Citizens Councils and red lining and guys nicknamed Brownie doing a "heck of a job."

That's not say there's anything wrong with being comfortable in white skin. If that's what God gave you, sure, be happy with it. However, the whole concept of having to be pro-white is redundant. It's not as if, in the normal course of events, white folks as a race really need that much encouragement. Do teachers really have to explain to white kids that in a more fair America they could perhaps grow up to be president?

So, yeah; based on its suspect history, if one were to preach the doctrine of pro-whiteness there could be due cause for concern.

Pro-blackness, on the other hand -- analogous to the Protestant work ethic -- is one of the most positive American values we have.

 

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When Rev. Wright has a good ol' Sunday picnic while they string up one of "them people" then this will be an issue. The "white" church (whatever god is I hope he is doing the supreme equal of laughing at this one)has a history of Choir robes on Sunday morning and Klan robes on Sunday night.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 PM on 04/30/2008

How about pro woman? How about a little girl in class being told she too might be president someday? Is this nomination becoming about race? If so, then let's bring in gender too..

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 PM on 04/29/2008

Obama has now declared that Wright is Offensive. That Wright offended him. That he understands why others are also offended by WRight.

You got caught behind the curve. You no longer have to defend the hate monger Wright. Obama is tossing him over because Wrights years of preaching hate is not defensible.

So now that Obama says Wright is wrong, all those trying to pretend we should look up to Wright are looking pretty silly.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 PM on 04/29/2008

Obama and Wright are two different persons. Obama can be discussed outside of the context of Wright and Wright can be discussed outside of the context of Obama.

That is not silly at all.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 PM on 04/29/2008

"In answer to the question: yeah, probably. But that's 'cause there's a difference between being pro-black and pro-white and the difference is a bad one.

Adherence to pro-black values isn't code for "kill whitey." It's merely how blacks have managed to stay alive and viable in America all these many years since we were first graciously given a ride across the middle passage to get dropped off in Virginia"

SO TRUE JOHN! BUT THEN, CREEPS LIKE SEAN HANNITY DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE PULLED OVER BY A COP AND TALKED DOWN TO SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY LOOK "SUSPICIOUS" - AKA BECAUSE THEY'RE A YOUNG BLACK GUY DRIVING LATE AT NIGHT IN A PREDOMINANTLY WHITE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE NOTION OF A BLACK COP PULLING OVER A WHITE PERSON WHO HAPPENS TO BE DRIVING IN A PREDOMINANTLY BLACK NEIGHBORHOOD DOESN'T SEEM SO PLAUSIBLE - DOES IT MR. HANNITY?

AND AS FAR AS HANNITY IS CONCERNED, HE PROBABLY THINKS GETTING SHACKLED AND DRAGGED ACROSS THE OCEAN TO AMERICA ON BOARD A CRAMPED BOAT WAS THE BEST THING THAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED TO THIS COUNTRY'S AFRICAN AMERICAN ANCESTORS. THEY SHOULD HAVE APPRECIATED ALL THE BENEFITS AND OPPORTUNITY ASSOCIATED WITH SLAVERY. UGH............

BOYCOTT FOX NEWS AND THE REST OF THE BIG CORPORATE FOUR!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 AM on 04/29/2008

Pro-black church, OK. However, Rev. Wright's black liberation theology is much more than just pro-black. It is anti-white. Rev. Wright credits Rev. James Cone as his theological mentor. James Cone is one of the founders of black liberation theology. Here is a quote from James Cone about black liberation theology, and you be the judge as to whether or not it is racist: "Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community. Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love."

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 AM on 04/29/2008

First, I would like to see a source for that quote. How do I now it's not something you made up, or got from Weekly World News or NewsMax or the National Enquirer (all about the same level of credibility)?

Secondly, form the New Yorker:

"Like many brash-sounding manifestos of the era, this one came with fine-print qualifications. Throughout the book, Cone was careful to explain that a black-centered Church need not be a black-separatist Church. And even the simplest phrases""black people," for instance"turned out to be slippery. It wasn"t about being "physically black," he wrote. "To be black means that your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body are where the dispossessed are." In his view, blackness was as radically inclusive as Christianity itself, and just as demanding."

Black=Liberal in other words

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/04/07/080407fa_fact_sanneh?currentPage=2

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 04/29/2008

Oh my, he sure killed you with the FACTS. Juan Williams, a notable liberal black man just wrote a book on black churches. According to Juan, Rev Wrights hate speech would never be tolerated in about 90% of black churches. He knows black pastors who would never allow Wright to do his hateful ranting and raving in their church.

Obama himself says Wright is offensive, and has offended him. Obama is now trashing Wright, tossing him over! Those defending wrights hate are now pushing the wrong side of the issue, they supporting the hate monger Wright who is taking down Obama.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 PM on 04/29/2008

Stevelagain: Good point. In no way is this an indictment of black churches, as Rev. Wright would like us to believe. I would imagine that only a small minority of black churches actually preach black liberation theology. That has remained one of my questions regarding Obama: Of all of the churches he could have chosen, why did he deliberately choose a church which preaches hatred against "white people?" It certainly flies in the face of his assertions about being a "uniter."

Also, your point about the Wright apologists being on the wrong side of the issue is right on. As you've said, even Obama acknowledges that many of Wright's statements are inappropriate. Since when has the Democratic Party been the party of those who justify racism? And, on another point, since when has the Democratic Party been the party of disenfranchisement (i.e. Florida and Michigan). This nomination process has really been a wake-up call for me.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 PM on 04/29/2008

Here it is:
A Black Theology of Liberation By James H. Cone 1990 ISBN-10: 0883446855 Page 27

This book is not a "black manifesto" from the 1960's. It was published in 1990. As for your statement about black not meaning black; then why use the word "black" at all. Why not use the word "dispossessed" or "oppressed?" Furthermore, on the Trinity United Church website, before they recently scrubbed the more offensive materials, the church had a "non-negotiable commitment to AFRICA." Now if black doesn't mean black, then why have a non-negotiable commitment to AFRICA. Why not have a commitment to all persons who are oppressed, everywhere. Also on the website were numerous references to "black people" and "African people" being the groups to which the church was dedicated. Does that sound like black does not mean black to you?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 PM on 04/29/2008

Now I have taken some time to listen to some of his sermons and I do not have a problem with his pro-blackness. If I were black, I would be the same way. But "the chickens come home to roost" statement, insinuates that we(America) had this coming to us for our previous aggressions. America is the most generous country in the world. Why wasnt he speaking of that? We have been attacked numerous times by Al Qaida and we did nothing. Remember the USS Cole? What happened in Pearl Harbor? Did we have that coming to us too? Why hasnt the chickens come home to roost for Germany? Perhaps when we invaded Iraq, it was the chickens coming home to roost for Sadam. I am convinced now, that Rev. Wright is INSANE! I guess the 3 million dollar house that he is building and the 10 million dollar line of credit the church has given him is his chickens coming home. WTF? What is wrong with people?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:52 AM on 04/29/2008

We are soooo generous ... Look at all the explosives we SHARE with dark skinned and poor people around the world. You are a complete idiot to equate Pearl Harbour with this scam. We NEEDED an excuse to bring the people of America together in deciding to enter WWII. We would have had to eventually anyway. We are in our current situation because of an outdated imperialistic mentality. Just continue to stick with the rest of the herd.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 PM on 04/29/2008

I brought up Pearl Harbor because Rev Wright brought up the fact that we had the audacity to bomb Hiroshima. Did you even listen to the sermon? Talk about stcking to the herd... ever hear of a lemming?
Yes, I think we are THE MOST GENEROUS COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. Prove me wrong!!! Do some research. And further more, if you hate America so much, where would be a better place for you?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 PM on 04/29/2008

dbroad -- nice post. stepinto -- it's a multi-faceted and complicated world. our nation has never been perfect, as i suppose, you nor i have never been perfect. but i reject your assertion that this country has ever been more evil than good. people flock here. they don't flee. doesn't that signify ANYTHING to you?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 PM on 04/29/2008

dbroad -- enjoyed your comments. stepintothelight -- you ought to actually try stepping into the light.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:20 PM on 04/29/2008

Wright, and other religious figures that are opposed to war in general, feels that aggression towards any nation or military occupation is immoral and all nations who practice this will feel the consequences. His focus on the US is due to our position in the world. We are the last "Empire (Superpower)." I don't agree with all that Wright says but it's far from insane. People (especially white people) just don't like what they are hearing. But American White people at large didn't like anti-slavery talk or anti-Jim Crow, etc, either. That's just the truth. It took people speaking out against these things to make any change happen. This is what Wright feels hevis doing whether it sounds good to you or not.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 PM on 04/29/2008

There is a big cultural distinction here (please excuse the generalities but the core message rings true). Black people don't regard the US government and the American people as the exact same entity. We have always felt a distinction between the two. When Wright speaks of America's "Chickens coming home to roost," he is saying that the actions of the GOVERNMENT have caused harm to come to the American PEOPLE. White people tend to regard America as an all inclusive entity so you take it personally when you hear some of these words. Maybe white people are more offended because they actually choose the President. Blacks make up about 12.5% of the US population and usually vote Democratic (or decide not to vote because we don"t feel either candidate will help us). When you see the shifts from a Democrat to a Republican, it's largely because the White "swing" vote caused the change. I'd argue that Blue-collar, White votes are swing voters because they may vote for a Republican or Democrat depending on who's running. Therefore it is very important for Whites to vote wisely, but this Demographic has been easily fooled by Republicans in the recent past.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 PM on 04/29/2008

Why would Rev Wright be insane??? Because He pointed out somethings that just happen to coinside with 9/11! It's okay to pray for the destruction of people in another country who were just innocent bystanders in a war just like the people in the twin towers were. You have learn a lot about our country to know that we commit terrorism right here on american soil everyday to our own people!! What does a 3 million dollar home have to do with telling the truth on the way things are shaping up for black america? If you live in black america EVERYBODY is catching hell just not the White or Hispanics, Jews, Asian-EVERYBODY and if someone is gonna call it the way it is here in america then be mad!!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 PM on 04/29/2008

Who prays for destruction of people in another country?
You wrote: You have learn a lot about our country to know that we commit terrorism right here on american soil everyday to our own people!!
Who are you referring to when you say "we"? I am not commiting acts of terrorism, nor is anyone that I know. I have not been a victim of " American terrorism", nor has anyone I know. Could you be more specific?
As far as the 3 million dollar home, I guess I just got alittle sensitive about a Reverand making that kind of money from the church. Thats my problem.
I listened to Rev. Wright's sermon and I heard him say, basically, we reap what we sow.
I dont believe that and I dont agree with it and I am not sure that you can say anything that will justify those comments.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 04/29/2008

Only an insane person would believe what Wright or Moyers has to say.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 AM on 04/29/2008

Only an insane person would make a comment like that.

I won't claim any deep knowledge of Rev. Wright and his sermons, but Bill Moyers is, without a doubt, the most sensible, well-informed, and reliable source in the MSM today. Furthermore, he has over 40 years of public life to support that assertion.

Anyone suggesting that "[o]nly an insane person" would believe him is clearly either deluded or full of it (or both).

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 PM on 04/29/2008

"But "the chickens come home to roost" statement, insinuates that we(America) had this coming to us for our previous aggressions."

Uh... he was quoting a diplomat.

And if you think US foreign policy had nothing to do with 9-11, I'm guessing you voted for W and will vote for McCain

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 AM on 04/29/2008

Are you saying that America had this coming to us? 3000 innocent people in NewYork and DC had it coming to them? I dont give a crap who said it. IT IS INSANE!!!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 04/29/2008

"Are you saying that America had this coming to us?"

Put down the straw man, and back away slowly.

I don't think the people in the buildings deserved that, and if you had watched Rev Wright's entire 9/11 sermon, you'd know he said they didn't deserve it either.

The problem is that America has not always been well-served by her leaders. Disasters visited upon Americans for the actions of their leaders are not fair to the Americans in question, however that doesn't mean the US government should be let off the hook.

"I dont give a crap who said it."

Even if that who in question is NOBODY?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 AM on 04/29/2008

Just so I am reading you clearly, you do not think that the victims of 9/11 deserved it but our goverment deserved it? What about Germany? What do they deserve? What did Sadam deserve? What about what is happening in Darfur? Who deserves what for those atrocities? We could go on and on.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 04/29/2008

Saying something is the natural consequence of an action does not in anyway shape or form constitute blame.

In our case however yes we do bear a responsibility for the actions of our government. As a democracy we bear particular responsibility for those actoins since at least in theory we are the government.

Actions have consequences and people need to understand and accept that.

When you walk around the world shoving people about to get your way eventually someone is going to take a swing at you.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 PM on 04/29/2008

I guess I am not as educated as some of you seem to be. What did we do to Al Qaida to provoke the attack on 9/11? Or the USS Cole? And there is more but for the life of me I cannot think of what we did to Al Qaida. Help me out.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 PM on 04/29/2008

Actually, that has turned out to be untrue. Ambassador Peck did discuss the issue of our activities abroad and their possible consequences, but his discussion was not at all similar to Rev. Wright's, and he didn't use the phrase "chickens are coming home to roost." By the way, I saw the video of Peck's interview last night on television, where they were discussing this issue.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 AM on 04/29/2008

"Ambassador Peck did discuss the issue of our activities abroad and their possible consequences, but his discussion was not at all similar to Rev. Wright's"

Well of course Wright is talking about Americas past conduct and how it relates to God as well as 9/11, and Peck is talking about America's past conduct and how it relates to 9/11.

Peck had a series of interviews with Fox, and of course we have no idea if the interview presented by Fox is the one Wright referred to, or if it's another interview and they simply didn't want to sir the one Wright referred to.

Besides that, the meat of the argument - that a predatory foreign policy results in terror assault, was definitely expressed by Peck in the interview I've read.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 AM on 04/29/2008

we had more terrorist assaults under the clinton administration that we have under the bus admin. How would you explain that?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 04/29/2008

This white guy (unreligious, by th way) agrees wholeheartedly with you. When whites get "racial conciousness" the results are not pretty. Don't let Wright scare you, white people. His words were not meant for us, but for his flock. The guy is dynamic. Leave him alone.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 AM on 04/29/2008

1430 comments so far = thank you for running Obama and thank you to everyone brave enough to have voted for him thus far. We need to talk about this and if he wasn't running, and running well, we wouldn't be.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 AM on 04/29/2008

SYRUPCORE...THAT STAT, AND YOUR WORDS ARE EXCELLENT....BUT BEHIND OUR BACKS RUMSFELD IS GETTING VISITS, HOLDING MEETINGS AND PLAYING WHAT? ADVISOR, GOD? YES, DIDYA KNOW THERE ARE DOD GENERALS FROM THE PETAGUN COMING FOR HIS HIGHNASS'S COUNSEL?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 04/29/2008




REVEREND WRIGHT


An angry man opens his mouth
And shuts his mind to reason.
He who stays slow to anger
Is loved by more each season.

Anger snuffs the lamp of thought
And it's hard to stay serene.
Where anger rules hatred thrives
Then the world we love turns mean.

He who fans the coals of hate
Has no reason to complain.
If some hot sparks scorch his face
His anguish is thus his pain.

Anger is a human madness
Which consumes the heart and mind.
He who rules his spirit with love
Shall be praised by all mankind.


By Tom Zart

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 PM on 04/28/2008

exactly, pro-black is inclusive, pro-white is Very Exclusive.

Thank you for your intelligent article.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 PM on 04/28/2008