Slew Of Gaffes Makes Pals Wonder Why Bill Clinton Is Losing It

New York Daily News   |   April 26, 2008 07:45 PM


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He's just not the same Bubba.

Hillary Clinton's husband is still brilliant, still passionate and still a magnificent campaigner. But people who have known him and observers who have watched Bill Clinton for decades say he's lost at least half a step.

Think of him like Michael Jordan - only the past-his-prime version, playing for the Washington Wizards.

More than one acquaintance used the same words: "He's just not the same."

Colleagues point to a slew of potential reasons for Bubba stepping in it so often, including psychological and medical.

Some think he's not up to speed with the instant news world of the 21st century and spending too much time with wealthy, globe-trotting pals.

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He is scared s__less what Hillary is going to do to him when she does not get the nomination!
I almost feel sorry for the poor guy. Well, not that sorry.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 PM on 04/27/2008

Wow, the goat has acquired quite the gut in the last year.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 PM on 04/27/2008

A blow is a blow...To the heart or any other extremity...Guess he hasn't had enough?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 04/27/2008

BILL CLINTON WANTS HILLARY TO LOSE. HIS EGO IS JUST THAT HUNGRY. CLINTO NEEDS THE SPOTLIGHT AND DOESN'T WANT TO SHARE.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 PM on 04/27/2008

Bill Clinton's erratic behavior is most likely the result of his heart by-pass surgery. It is common after surgery to loose some of your mental capacity in addition to being depressed. I have also observed that Bill Clinton has not looked robust and healthy on some occasions. This observation is from first hand experience but non-medical qualified opinion.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 PM on 04/27/2008

Senile Dementia - you always have to look for early signs. Just as Reagan had Alzheimers while he was President. It could be Bill Clinton is headed down a very sad path.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 PM on 04/27/2008

Several doctors at dkos have commented that it is a result of his heart surgery.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 PM on 04/27/2008

I noticed the same kind of "drift" in my stepdad's memory after his heart bypass surgery.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:35 PM on 04/27/2008

I think it's more his need to be "the babe at every christening, the bride at every wedding and the corpse at every funeral", and the fact that all his success really got to his head and makes him think he is infallable. After all, he once was "the most popular man in the world"... So sad - please, Bill, go... When he denies saying what he did only a day before, it's either lying (and thinking he can still get away with it), or really not knowing. Both scenarios are bad, and we do not need him in and around the WH again. Don;t let the circus back in town!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:14 PM on 04/27/2008

re: finally

"the babe at every christening, the bride at every wedding and the corpse at every funeral"...

...love it

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 PM on 04/27/2008

THE FOULMOUTHED & LYING CLINTONS

by
Reinhold Aman, Ph.D.

Patterson said Hillary was no stranger to the "N" word either. He heard her say "nigger" "probably six, eight, ten times. She would be upset with someone in the black community and she would use the 'N' word, like, you heard they've got the president's brother on tape using the 'N' word." [NewsMax, 17 July 2000]

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 PM on 04/27/2008

Great, let's quote Newsmax. Next up, the Drudge Report.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 PM on 04/27/2008

Bill Clinton has had heart by-pass surgery. People who have had this surgery often report personality changes. Perhaps this explains his behavior.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 04/27/2008

Bill, the man is "guilt-ridden from head to toe. What is he to do. The thought of Hillary losing her long awaited seat in the white house is just to much " Stress.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 AM on 04/27/2008

I don't think Bill is "losing" it.

People are just waking up and seeing what the Clintons really are, and they don't like it. They've been swindled big time. Bill and Hillary just felt like they were going to get the nomination, and had no plan B. So when Obama surged, they became furious and really went after him. Whenever the Clinton's power is on the line, then they get angry. They'll throw a liberal or two under the bus, but when their personal stature is threatened, then all of a sudden they find a backbone.

The Michael Jordan comparison isn't too far off. Jordan couldn't play anymore (or play at the level he played when he was in Chicago) because of his age, but his ego (and Jordan has a huge ego) got the better of him, and his legacy is tarnished to some degree. Clinton's desire for a 3rd term (and his realisation that it might be slipping away) is getting the better of him. The times of crisis bring out the real you, and Bill isn't handling it well. At least Jordan realised after a few years it was time to retire from playing for real.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 AM on 04/27/2008

They get angy, or cry: HRC shed tears when she almost lost NH.. Where were the tears for all the lives lost in a war she voted for without reading the 193-page nat. intelligence estimate, so classified that NONE of her aids had access to it? She claims to have been "breifed", but never states by whom. It's allways about them, at ANY cost to the party and the issues they claim to care about.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:21 PM on 04/27/2008

Personally, I think he waited too long to flare up. He should have expressed outrage upon first hearing about the memo by Obama's campaign urging staffers and the press to seek opportunities to paint Clinton statements as evidence of "race-baiting".

When these bogus charges actually started to take hold in South Carolina, the president who had appointed more blacks to cabinet and high level positions than any president in history, this president who was probably the first to have blacks among his very best friends, this president who was more at home with black audiences than with white ones really did start to come unglued a bit and I think it's perfectly understandable.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 AM on 04/27/2008

Yeah EW, except that didn't happen. I read the memo he's referring to, and it doesn't say what you think it does. It just gathers quotes from HRC and their surrogates...doesn't say anything about instructions for the staffers and the press.
Bill & Hillary said what they said, and no one forced them to do it. Even before this campaign, they have been known to cross the line. Usually, they attack White Republicans with it (like when Hill said the Repub-controlled Congress was being run "like a Plantation"). Now they are just taking it to the next level.
So it's not really a question of "losing it"; it is, sadly, their worst traits being revealed to the public at large (including Democrats).

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 04/27/2008

The fact is that it was Michelle Obama who said she might not work to elect Hillary if she is the nominee. You can be sure Bill Clinton will be out there for Obama, if he is the nominee.
http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/011885.php

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 AM on 04/27/2008

Sure, Bill will campaign for Obama - just like he did for Al Gore... All he did was come to Gore's campagin fund raisers and try to hit people up for money for Hillary's first senate run and belittle Gore whenever he could. Yeah - he'll "work" for Obama. Get real.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 04/27/2008

After six months of non-stop attacks, distortions and lies, why should she? Maybe the Clintons should have taken this into account when they decided to follow Mark Penn and his scorched earth tactics.

Michelle Obama is the only person in this campaign, including Hillary Clinton who has talked about the real lives of women in America today. Nearly half of American mothers are single mothers. Can anybody remembered the last time Hillary Clinton mentioned them? No. Because Hillary is not campaigning in America, 2008. She's campaigning in an imaginary America - 1958.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 PM on 04/27/2008

Michelle Obama is Calvinist. Wright's
church is a Calvinist denomination. I and
about half of Protestant America belong
to the same Calvinist denomination. My
church was white and in a very Republican
town, but it's essentially the same morality-
driven world view.

Calvinists are not prudes, they invented
the Puritan 'lusty marriage,' but the
Clintons' behavior (when caught) was an
absolute horror to me, I was literally
sickened all those months that Bill lied
on and on.

Expect a higher level of moral
indignation from the Obamas and
if Hill gets the nomination, expect
a lot of write in votes for Obama.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 04/27/2008

I think most have forgotten about this -- amonst all the other stuff. I really am beginning to think that the "lunatic fringe" that Arianna talks about are residing right here on her site. Person above country. And why isn't Huffpo out here every day saying how McCain is "losing it," after all, isn't he the one we really have to worry about? Arianna said Huffpo wasn't endorsing either candidate, but you sure could fool me. Most of my posts with this tone don't seem t be "making it" and I " wonder why."

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 04/27/2008

Because Arianna who was part of the right-wing fringe obsessed with zippergate in the '90s. She may have changed political strpes but cannot shed herself of her (negative) obsession with Bill Clinton and it's reflected in what gets posted here.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 PM on 04/27/2008

Obama may not want Bill stumping for him. Hell, Bill's wife has told him to shut up.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 AM on 04/27/2008

I'm sure he will want Bill out there. But nice deflection from the point of what I said. If Bill had said something like that, you would have never heard the end of it.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 PM on 04/27/2008

So basically, are saying that you strickly vote on the party, not the issues or the character of the candidate? Is that what you are implying? Is there something wrong with being a free thinker?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 PM on 04/27/2008

What I am saying, and what you appear to be missing, is that if Bill Clinton had said he might not support Obama then you would never hear the end of it. That's the point. Nothing to do with all the deflections you're trying to make.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 04/27/2008

You are right, I missed your point because you did not make it in your first message. I am not trying to make deflections. I am merely posting my thoughts based on what you typed in your original post "You can be sure Bill Clinton will be out there for Obama, if he is the nominee. " To be honest, I dont know how anyone can come out and support a candidate that they have been slinging mud with, with a straight face.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 PM on 04/27/2008

That was what I was clearly implying in the first message. I would like you to tell me that if Bill Clinton said what she did, there would not be an uproar.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 PM on 04/27/2008

The fact is that it was Michelle Obama who said she might not work to elect Hillary if she is the nominee. You can be sure Bill Clinton will be out there for Obama, if he is the nominee.
http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/011885.php

Obviously, your implication was not clear or I would have picked up on it. Having said that, I think you are probably right. For years the media loved Bill (with the exception of Fox) and now they seem to have turned on him. I dont know why that is.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 04/27/2008

It may be fun sport to pile on the Clintons, but the fact is the neoconservatives have perpetuated this propaganda to good effect for a long time. The last thing Wall Street wants is the kind of New Deal politics tthis political couple espouses, and so we're seeing the "weapons of mass destruction" scam unleashed again to throw the presidential election. Meanwhile, as Bill Clinton claimed, the Obama campaign did circulate a 4-page memo right after his wife won the New Hampshire primary, well before he said anything about South Carolina. Here it is. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/12/obama-camps-memo-on-clin_n_81205.html

For more on the manipulation of the primaries, see the article I've posted at thecityedition.com.
http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/2008Election.html

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 AM on 04/27/2008

Yeah yeah, the Clintons are always the victims.... in their own minds. They are dishonest, mean-spirited, selfish, users, opportunists and manipulators. The world treats them so badly, while they sell influence to the highest bidders to become mega millionaires, destroy the Democratic party, and do permanent damage to this nation.

YRM, anyone who defends the Clintons is as dishonest as they are.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 AM on 04/27/2008

The neo cons didn't make him diss AAs in SC, or make him yell, red-faced, at his own supporter in SF. They didn't make him lie about Hillary's lies, or tell reporters that his wife asked him to shut up afterwards.
Bill brought this on himself

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 AM on 04/27/2008

The Obama campaign pimped his comments as a "diss of African Americans". Barack Obama is not Black America, he is one man but his campaign has with a high degree of success convinced an awful lot of people that any attack on him is an attack on Black America.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 AM on 04/27/2008

oh please...

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 04/27/2008

Oh please what? They did it, they don't even deny doing it. Look, I will be 100% for Obama when he is the nominee. In fact, look forward to it. However, I am forced on this site to be 100% for Hillary because this board is so ridiculously one-sided. I'm not one who easily throws a friend under the bus and as a longtime democrat, I feel that Bill Clinton has been a friend. At times politically expedient, true enough but still a friend and unlike his administration WAS a big improvement over the previous 12 years (no matter what Obama says about Reagan).

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 AM on 04/27/2008

So now you're whining about pimping out? Heh. Here a piece of advice you should like. If you don't like the heat, get out of the kitchen

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 AM on 04/27/2008

I don't whine. I don't bandwagon. I don't pile on. I'm quite comfortable in the heat. Why else would I defend Clinton on this 99% Obama board. It's you that can't stand the heat from light being shone on your candidate. Perhaps you should change your tag, "MiddleRoad" doesn't seem to fit.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 AM on 04/27/2008

Eugene, stop and take a rest, grab a glass of tea and go sit on the porch. " Relax.