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SLOBODAN LEKIC | April 28, 2008 08:30 PM EST | AP

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An Iraqi Army soldier uses a flashlight to signal cars to turn off their headlights as a sandstorm envelops central Baghdad, Iraq on Sunday, April 27, 2008. Militants fired a salvo of rockets or mortars at the heavily guarded Green Zone on Sunday, apparently were taking advantage of a sandstorm that blanketed the Iraqi capital Sunday and grounded U.S. helicopters and drones that normally track their activities. (AP Photo/ Khalid Mohammed)

BAGHDAD — Bombardments by suspected militants killed four U.S. soldiers Monday as troops tried to push Shiite fighters farther from the U.S.-protected Green Zone and out of range of their rockets and mortars.

At least 44 American soldiers have been killed in Iraq in April, making it the deadliest month for U.S. forces since September.

The U.S. military said three soldiers were killed in eastern Baghdad by indirect fire, a reference to mortars or rockets. The statement did not give an exact location for the attack, but the Shiite stronghold of Sadr City has been the scene of intense fighting recently with Shiite militiamen.

A fourth U.S. soldier was killed by a shell in western Baghdad, the military said.

Meanwhile, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, speaking before the U.N. Security Council, accused Iran and Syria of trying to destabilize Iraq.

A showdown between the Iraqi government and the Mahdi Army _ led by anti-American cleric Muqtada al-Sadr _ has increasingly drawn U.S. forces into battles. American commanders are particularly focused on trying to curb a rise in mortar and rocket attacks on the Green Zone.

At least three more salvos hit the Green Zone in central Baghdad, but there were no reports of injuries. In Sadr City _ the stronghold of the Mahdi Army militia _ U.S. soldiers battled deeper into the district a day after fierce clashes that killed at least 38 suspected militants, the military said.

U.S. soldiers killed seven more extremists Monday after coming under small-arms fire in Sadr City, the military said. Four of the suspects were killed in an airstrike and three others by an Abrams tank crew, according to a statement.

On Monday, 30 Iraqi lawmakers from various political parties urged Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki to end the monthlong confrontation, saying innocent civilians and children were the main victims of the fighting.

"Yes, you can do it if you remember your own children," said a joint statement read by Mustafa al-Heeti, a Sunni member of parliament. "Your people (are) are demanding of you to intervene and solve the crisis peacefully."

Their appeal came after U.S. forces, backed by Abrams tanks and Bradley armored personnel carriers, fired on insurgents positions in Sadr City. The military said 38 militants were killed. Iraqi health officials said 58 people, including five children and eight women, were injured.

The fighting erupted after militants took advantage of a sandstorm to unleash a barrage of 107 mm rockets and 82 mm mortar shells at the Green Zone, which includes the U.S. and British embassies and some key Iraqi government offices.

The near-daily shelling of the Green Zone has become acutely embarrassing for both Iraqi authorities and the U.S. military.

Rather than mount an all-out assault, U.S. commanders have tried to limit the shelling by walling off the southern third of Sadr City and trying to put the Green Zone out of range of light rockets and mortars.

Chinese-made 107 mm Katyushas have a range of about five miles, while 82 mm mortars can exceed three miles. Much of the Green Zone is more than five miles from firing positions beyond the new wall.

"It's a tried and true strategy that we'll continue to prosecute here because it has worked well in other locations, and we think it'll work well here," said Brig. Gen. Will Grimsley, an assistant division commander.

Col. John Hort, who commands U.S. troops on the southern edge of Sadr City, said the heavy sandstorm sharply limits sensors and targeting lasers on helicopters and unmanned drones used to identify firing positions.

At the United Nations, U.S. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad on Monday accused Iranian-backed groups of launching numerous attacks on Iraqi civilians and multinational forces this year. He also said estimates suggest that 90 percent of foreign terrorists enter Iraq through Syria.

"Iran and Syria must stop the flow of weapons and foreign fighters into Iraq," Khalilzad said in a report to the Security Council on behalf of the multinational force in Iraq.

Iraq's U.N. Ambassador Hamid Al Bayati told reporters "we know (there is) interference by neighbors. I can't state names, but we know some neighbors are helping militias, armed groups."

The Iranian and Syrian governments have repeatedly denied trying to destabilize Iraq and insist there is no proof.

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Associated Press writer Edith M. Lederer contributed to this report from the United Nations.

 
 

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Hey... HOW 'BOUT THE SURGE, HUH?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 PM on 04/28/2008

Stupid radical thugs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 04/28/2008

Ya, those thugs should have never illegally invaded Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 04/28/2008

True enough, the GOP thugs should not have. Them and militia thugs are equally despicable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 PM on 04/28/2008

Amen. If another country invaded my hometown, I'd be out the door buying a gun... and I have no idea how to load one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 PM on 04/28/2008

If the Euro Union invaded the US and arrested Bush, you guys would be throwing flowers in the streets.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:23 PM on 04/28/2008

Three US soldiers killed, but none of them was Ammobob, so it's OK.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 PM on 04/28/2008

Soooooooooo...what right do you have to speak about the war?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 PM on 04/28/2008

A better question woul dbe "what right do you have to even consider questioning the right of every damn citizen ofthis country to speak their mind about the war?" Of course, you'd have to ask that of yourself, not the poster.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 04/28/2008

My right comes from the fact that I am a citizen of the United States of America and am guarunteed, by the First Amendment of that country's constitution, the right to speak out concerning the actions of my government. Further, since this war is being carried out in my name (as a citizen of the above mentioned country) I will say whatever in the f*ck I want to say about it. And what are you going to do about it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 04/28/2008

Okay, so whenever you call someone a chickenhawk and to fly off to Iraq in order to have an opinion on the war, you need to think before you speak.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:59 PM on 04/28/2008

I guess the Bush war strategy is to kill every Muslim until he gets to OBL, oh he's not that interested in him anymore; OBL just killed 3,800 Americans in the Towers, the Pentagon and PA. a detail every good Bush Republican"s overlooks. I guess that's just oil business, let a rich Saudi of Sudanese decent go, and kill 200,000 or is 300,000 Iraqis instead. Wait until this lunatic get to Iran and then will see Stalingrad all over again as our troops fight their way out there. That what happens when a bunch of power hungry ideologues with not war fighting experience plan a war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 PM on 04/28/2008

"OBL just killed 3,800 Americans in the Towers"

Not true. Just under 3,000 people died on 9/11, and just over 2,000 of them were Americans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 04/28/2008

Yeah, f**k you 3,000 Americans!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 PM on 04/28/2008

"3,800" could have been a typo. I am the quintessence of human perfection and even I let a typo slip from time to time. Accidents happne!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 04/28/2008

How many Americans did Hitler kill before 1942?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 04/28/2008

I don't know the exact number, but quite a few merchant marines and even some Navy personnel were killed in U-boat attacks before the US was officially in the war. My father joined the US Navy in 1938. He was on a destroyer. In 1940/41 his ship escorted a number of convoys carrying supplies to the European allies. He saw a number of American cargo ships go down, and his ship dropped depth charges that destroyed a German submarine. Well before 1942.


Why do you ask?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 04/28/2008

Oh no reason, so you would have no problem with the Iraq invasion, I mean, Saddam did kill 150 Americans in 1991 and who knows how many died from weapons sold from Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:01 PM on 04/28/2008

tie this story in with current main page story and MSM looks worse and worse.
they were beginning to make feeble anti-war remarks for a while, now just ignoring it all.
Bush has put a large group of Americans into a situation for which they were not trained or prepared and is leaving them sitting there like ducks. Similar to what Reagan did with Marines in Lebanon - just sitting in a building in an unfriendly country doing work that they were not trained for.
support the war or not, these stories should make your skin crawl.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 04/28/2008


The only successful occupations in history have involved

replacing the indigenous peoples with your own people.

All those avid supporters of this war of choice should be

packing and getting acclimatized for the hot & dry heat!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 04/28/2008

Germany, Japn, Italy after WWII. Successful occupations? You make the call.

We're still there, btw.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:17 PM on 04/28/2008

Ireland, India, China...three right there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 04/28/2008


The USA too, just ask an American Indian or a Mexican.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 04/28/2008

Mexicans? If there were a people who don't have a right to this land it would be them.

And I thought we were talking replacing the people that were there (as I'm sure you know that neither the Indians nor the Mexicans were here to begin with).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 04/28/2008

Leave to Ammobob et al
to come up with such simple and unprejudiced explanations.

The Iraqis do not resist because of the US military occupation, even though that"s why they say they resist.
The Iraqis do not fight because they oppose the pillage of their country, and theft of their oil rights, even though they claim those are reasons.
The Iraqis do not attack US troops because they have been jailed, tortured, walled off in ghettoes, deprived of jobs, deprived of schools for their children, lacking medical care, or driven from their homes by helicopter gunships and drones. No, even if they say that is why they fight, they are wrong.

Ammobob knows they only want 27 virgins, and to convert us to Islam.

Therefore, they are heathen, sub-human dupes of a false religion.
That"s what gives us the right to kill them if they won"t submit to the kind of government and economy we want them to have.
They should just do what Ammobob says. He knows what"s best for them. He"s not the least bit chauvinist, arrogant, prejudiced, or duped.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 PM on 04/28/2008

The U.S. press office tends to use the term 'militant' rather loosely. If they use the term 'Al Qaida' then there may be actual militants involved. If they just say 'militants' that word often includes wedding parties, sleeping children, morning commuters, Italian secret agents, BBC reporters, other soldiers, fifteen year old girls and their entire families...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 PM on 04/28/2008

The article misleadingly portrays the problem as defiant "militants" who won't follow the instructions from their own leader.
The actual problem is that the US military is attacking the most popular Iraqi organization by air strikes and artillery into a densely population urban area.
Why?

CNN report:
"When we threatened to declare an open war until the liberation, we meant war against
the occupier," al-Sadr said in his letter. "There is no war between us and our Iraqi
brothers -- no matter what their nationality, race or sect. The blood of Iraqis are forbidden
on you."
On Saturday, al-Sadr issued what he called a "last warning" and told his followers in Sadr
City to fight the "occupier" there.
Al-Sadr said he would not accept the long-term agreement which the U.S. and Iraqi
governments are crafting to replace the current U.N. mandate for multi-national forces in
Iraq. The U.N. mandate expires in December.
"There should be no long-term security agreement between the government and occupier,
no matter how hard they fight us and no matter how much of our blood is spilled," he
said. "We will not accept to divide Iraq and to steal its wealth."
Al-Sadr's message came after at least 11 people were killed and 36 others were wounded
in overnight battles in northern Baghdad's Sadr City
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/04/25/iraq.main/index.html?section=cnn_lates

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 PM on 04/28/2008

Hey, Baghdad is still safer than Philadelphia. At least that's what conservatives tell me. I'm still trying to fiure out why they don't all just move to Baghdad en masse, since it's so safe there. But in any case, there are aparently way more suicide bombings and rocket attacks in Philadelphia (Quaker insurgents?) than there are in Baghdad. So say conservatives, and they never lie and they're always right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 04/28/2008

Who the heck is saying Baghdad is safer than Philly?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 PM on 04/28/2008

Face it, if you are against this war, then you support fascism. I am sorry, that is just the case. I mean, you can be a fascist all you want, it's a free country. I just hope you know what you are getting yourself into.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 PM on 04/28/2008

Typo, you said "against". You meant "for". No biggie.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 04/28/2008

Opposed, not for, versus...whatever floats your boat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 04/28/2008

Maybe if you first learned what fascism is, then you might know who is supporting it.

http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 PM on 04/28/2008

Oh I know what fascism is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 04/28/2008

Never were more dishonest words ever written than yours just above.

So, you are for the war, but you're over here, not over there. How convenient.
As a viet vet, when I read clueless comments like yours, I think , mmmm, cannon fodder.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:22 PM on 04/28/2008

Hopefully I will be there in about four or five years. And trust me, truer words were never typed onto a blog. If you were against this war from the beginning then you support fascism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:26 PM on 04/28/2008

Four or five years until you go? How old are you? Either you were eight years old when this war started or you're a chickenhawk like all the other neoncons. Big talk and then you let other people die for you.

G-

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 04/28/2008

Be there in four or five years..?
How old are you?
Either you were eight when this war started and you don't remember what we were told we were "fighting for" or you're of fighting age and you're just a big chickenhawk whose too scared to fight "the terrrrists."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 PM on 04/28/2008

Heil Awcbuddy8 ! Please go over to Iraq and fight for us and our 'Homeland' !
While you're at it please find Bin Laden and the 'nucular' weapons for us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 04/28/2008

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