Supreme Court says states can demand photo ID for voting

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MARK SHERMAN | April 28, 2008 11:03 PM EST | AP

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WASHINGTON — States can require voters to produce photo identification, the Supreme Court ruled Monday, upholding a Republican-inspired law that Democrats say will keep some poor, older and minority voters from casting ballots.

Twenty-five states require some form of ID, and the court's 6-3 decision rejecting a challenge to Indiana's strict voter ID law could encourage others to adopt their own measures. Oklahoma legislators said the decision should help them get a version approved.

The ruling means the ID requirement will be in effect for next week's presidential primary in Indiana, where a significant number of new voters are expected to turn out for the Democratic contest between Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama.

The results could say something about the effect of the law, either because a large number of voters will lack identification and be forced to cast provisional ballots or because the number turns out to be small.

Supporters of the law say it's all about preventing fraud.

Indiana has a "valid interest in protecting 'the integrity and reliability of the electoral process,'" said Justice John Paul Stevens in an opinion that was joined by Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Anthony Kennedy.

Stevens said that Indiana's desire to prevent fraud and to inspire voter confidence in the election system are important even though there have been no reports of the kind of fraud the law was designed to combat. Evidence of voters being inconvenienced by the law's requirements also is scant. For the overwhelming majority of voters, an Indiana driver's license serves as the identification.

The law does not apply to absentee balloting, where election experts agree the threat of fraud is higher.

The Indiana law was passed in 2005. Democrats and civil rights groups opposed it as unconstitutional and called it a thinly veiled effort to discourage groups of voters who tend to prefer Democrats.

It was in effect during the 2006 elections when Democrats picked up three congressional seats in Indiana and won control of the state House of Representatives.

Justices Samuel Alito, Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas agreed with the outcome Monday, but wrote separately in favor of a broader defense of voter ID laws.

"The universally applicable requirements of Indiana's voter-identification law are eminently reasonable. The burden of acquiring, possessing and showing a free photo identification is simply not severe, because it does not 'even represent a significant increase over the usual burdens of voting,'" Scalia said.

Justices Stephen Breyer, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and David Souter dissented.

Indiana's voter ID law "threatens to impose nontrivial burdens on the voting rights of tens of thousands of the state's citizens," Souter said.

The targets of the law, he said, are "voters who are poor and old."

Yet Stevens wrote that the law does not single out groups of voters for different treatment. "We cannot conclude that the statute imposes 'excessively burdensome requirements' on any class of voters," he said. That opinion suggested the outcome could be different in a state where voters could provide evidence that their rights had been impaired.

Indiana provides IDs free of charge to people without driver's licenses. It also allows voters who lack photo ID's to cast a provisional ballot and then show up within 10 days at their county courthouse to produce identification or otherwise attest to their identity.

Stevens said these provisions also help reduce the burden on people who lack driver's licenses.

Indiana Secretary of State Todd Rokita, a Republican, praised the decision. "This says to the voter you can have confidence again in the elections because we're doing some of the things the guy at the video store does when you go and rent a video," Rokita said.

Ken Falk, legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Indiana, said the court was willing to burden "tens of thousands of eligible voters who lack a government-issued identification while accepting at face value Indiana's unsubstantiated claim of voter fraud." The ACLU brought the case on behalf of Indiana voters.

The proliferation of voter ID laws followed the enactment in 2002 of the federal Help America Vote Act. The law was designed in response to the disputed 2000 presidential election. The law's voter ID provisions apply to first-time voters and do not mandate photo identification.

Many Democrats criticized the ruling Monday. It places "an unnecessary burden on elderly and low-income voters, not to mention other voters of disparate racial and ethnic backgrounds," said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada.

Mary Wilson, president of the League of Women Voters, said her group has never found a problem with in-person voter fraud. "We'd be the first ones out there to prevent voter fraud, if there really was a problem," she said.

Several critics pointed to a footnote in Stevens' opinion to show how far back he went _ 140 years _ to describe the corrosive effects of widespread fraud at polling places, a reference to Boss Tweed's influence in New York's municipal elections in 1868.

Republicans, meanwhile, praised the decision for recognizing the threat of voter fraud. "Today's ruling rightfully allows states to safeguard against such destructive abuse," said House Republican Leader John Boehner of Ohio.

In Oklahoma, Republican legislators said the ruling should help them pass a less-stringent voter ID bill. The Oklahoma House has approved legislation to require voters to present some form of identification _ including a utility bill or bank statement. The measure faces a final vote by the state Senate.

Monday's case was the court's first significant foray into election law since the Bush v. Gore dispute that sealed the 2000 election for George W. Bush. The voter ID ruling, with no majority opinion and four of the nine justices writing, lacked the conservative-liberal split that marked the 2000 case.

The consolidated cases are Crawford v. Marion County Election Board, 07-21, and Indiana Democratic Party v. Rokita, 07-25.

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- NickFuryII See Profile I'm a Fan of NickFuryII permalink

Requiring an ID is just plain common sense. It"s a no brainer.

I guess that"s why people with no brain and no common sense seem to oppose it (a.k.a Liberals).

Anyway, it"s beneath intelligent debate to discuss that issue any further, the point I wanted to make is this disturbing proposal that a voter should receive a receipt upon voting.

Voter fraud is a real threat and it should be a concern as long as there"s a democrat party, but, this is a VERY BAD idea.

To understand why, don"t think like an American, instead think like a democrat.

Fraud and intimidation is the only way they can get elected. Now that fraud will be harder with ID"s, receipts are just a play for the intimidation angle.

Here is how it works.

I am a Union Boss. You are my Union Lackey. I order you to go to the polls to commit treason (vote for Barrack Obama). I demand that you bring me back your receipt or else I will put you on toilet duty for the rest of your life.

With a receipt you are toast. However, without a receipt I will have no way of knowing what you actually did in the privacy of the voting booth. You can do what you want and say anything.

Let"s keep private voting sacred.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 04/28/2008
- breakfast See Profile I'm a Fan of breakfast permalink


Most accounts agree that there are 12 to 20 million illegal aliens here in the U.S. There are also many millions of foreigners here legally on extended work visas and the like.

It just seems prudent and reasonable to me to have some way of insuring that only citizens vote.

Some years ago, maybe this would not be a concern. But in view of the sheer numbers of non-citizens present in our country, some steps have to be taken.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 04/28/2008
- ctbutte See Profile I'm a Fan of ctbutte permalink

Notice how fast Zsa Zsa is moving this story from her pages. This is bad news for dems all over the country!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 PM on 04/28/2008
- lochnessmonster See Profile I'm a Fan of lochnessmonster permalink

So long as they are FREE I do not see where this is a problem. Further, I think their Secretary of State should take it to the streets in an ID van where people could get their IDs without undue burden to them. This would be especially helpful to the elderly and people who can't or do not drive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 PM on 04/28/2008
- Mark2100 See Profile I'm a Fan of Mark2100 permalink

Republicans have never won an election based on high voter turnout. The less people that turn out the more likely it is that the Republicans will win.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 04/28/2008
- RedWolverine See Profile I'm a Fan of RedWolverine permalink

Democrats have never won an election where dead people couldn't vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 04/28/2008
- BronxBorn See Profile I'm a Fan of BronxBorn permalink

Every day the credit industry offers, unsolicited, new credit cards.
Not one of those solicitations asks for a picture ID before the card will be issued. And few retailers ask for an ID, either.
It's Voter supression, plain and simple.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 04/28/2008
- Chris See Profile I'm a Fan of Chris permalink

Bronx you are forgetting that by the time the credit card company sneds out that new card (never had that happen to me other than the fake ones) that they have already verified your id through your SS#.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 04/28/2008
- BronxBorn See Profile I'm a Fan of BronxBorn permalink

You got me there.
It's a lousy analogy on my part.

Still, it's Voter suppression.
Now states can impose barriers to voting that would disproportionately harm voters who are poor, elderly, or disabled.
The kind of Voters that lean heavily Democratic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:21 PM on 04/28/2008
- TheJibreelaMonsters See Profile I'm a Fan of TheJibreelaMonsters permalink

Were are you shopping at? I know damm well if I walked into Macys and pick up 300 bucks worth of clothes, they will be asking for ID. New York State dose the same thing!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 PM on 04/28/2008
- BronxBorn See Profile I'm a Fan of BronxBorn permalink

I live in New York. I've spent a lot more than 300 bucks lots of times, and I have never had to show ANY I.D.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 04/28/2008
- UnbiasView See Profile I'm a Fan of UnbiasView permalink

Hilarious, I can't find a single legitimate argument against someone proving who they are before casting a vote. MEXICO EVEN DOES IT.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 04/28/2008
- BronxBorn See Profile I'm a Fan of BronxBorn permalink

So, you're saying America should be like Mexico.

Some fine Patriot you are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 PM on 04/28/2008
- UnbiasView See Profile I'm a Fan of UnbiasView permalink

It's about time, hopefully the rest of the country will follow in their footsteps so we can make sure that people voting are actually citizens of this country. Hell, even Mexico mandates that you have an ID before voting. Sad it took this long for us to catch on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 PM on 04/28/2008
- elderly See Profile I'm a Fan of elderly permalink

I am practicing:

Deutschland, Deutschland, uber ales, uber ales.......................

I would suggest everyone practice. Next week the supreme court with justices chosen by our wonderful leaders will in all likelihood mandate the ability to sing this song as a prerequisite for voting, marriage, child rearing, admission to a hospital, etc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 PM on 04/28/2008
- Warmglobe See Profile I'm a Fan of Warmglobe permalink

no but English would be nice......and I would insist all of the ballots be in English only as well

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 PM on 04/28/2008
- TommyBobama See Profile I'm a Fan of TommyBobama permalink

That makes sense. You have to speak English to get citizenship. And you have to have citizenship to vote.

English-only ballots is really not that outrageous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 04/28/2008
- bronceye See Profile I'm a Fan of bronceye permalink

I would love to see people take their family albums and produce pictures from birth, little league, high school, military, and so on. After all, a single photo-id can be tampered with. For true identification, there should be a visible record of true identity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 04/28/2008
- TommyBobama See Profile I'm a Fan of TommyBobama permalink

It's a state issued ID. There is no need to bring photos from home.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 PM on 04/28/2008
- BronxBorn See Profile I'm a Fan of BronxBorn permalink

bronceye was kidding. Jeez, lighten up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 PM on 04/28/2008
- Warmglobe See Profile I'm a Fan of Warmglobe permalink

So while all of the liberals are screaming for accurate and ethical elections they are (not surprisingly) against the one thing that would put us way in the right direction! Every citizen should have an ID. Let's see the list of characters who will come out against it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 04/28/2008
- bronceye See Profile I'm a Fan of bronceye permalink

All of this hoopla would be unnecesary if we just tattooed everybody's personal id# on their wrists. That would make it a sure thing, and we would be more secure from terrorists, as they wouldn't be branded. Their was one hell of a compliant society built upon that id once. We know that it works.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 PM on 04/28/2008
- TommyBobama See Profile I'm a Fan of TommyBobama permalink

Is that what they call a "straw man" argument?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:27 PM on 04/28/2008
- lochnessmonster See Profile I'm a Fan of lochnessmonster permalink

I don't know...didn't Hitler tattoo people? Let's just put a computer chip in everyone's neck when they are born like they did my dog. Then all they would need to do is scan your neck when you want to vote, go on vacation outside of the country, or if you forget where you live. Although, I'm sure someone would figure out how to alter that too...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 04/28/2008
- wndrwrthg See Profile I'm a Fan of wndrwrthg permalink

As an aside to your comment: How would you reconcile the religious beliefs of those who maintain that their bodies must remain untainted?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 04/28/2008
- ctbutte See Profile I'm a Fan of ctbutte permalink

I wonder how the felons and dead people will make it to the dem polls?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 PM on 04/28/2008
- UnbiasView See Profile I'm a Fan of UnbiasView permalink

A lot less than usual would be my guess.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 PM on 04/28/2008
- MelDel7365 See Profile I'm a Fan of MelDel7365 permalink

This is tantamont to a poll tax. I would like to read the decision and see how they distinguish this from a poll tax. (a poll tax is illegal & has been used historically to suppress the black vote).

I know the counter argument here is that this is to discourage voter fraud - that argument DOES have some merit. However, if Indiana & the 17 other states that want to impose these laws do so - they should be required to have a provision waiving the fee for the ID, and requiring them to send notice to all voters AND requiring them to make widely publicized public service announcements about the new law.

Make no mistake, the primary motivation behind this law is NOT to combat voter fraud, it is to supress the poor vote, and the minority vote - the Democratic vote. It is one of several strategies the GOP will use to try to cheat their way back into the White House again because McCain can NOT win on the merits.

You'll see a lot of posts in response to this article filled with hate and vitriol for Immigrants - another target of the loving & caring religious right. I'm sure Rush Limbaugh has all of his "ditto-heads" (read sheeple) well armed with all of the arguments in favor of this - & like I said - there is some merit to the desire to quell voter fraud, within reason - but I guarentee you - this

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 PM on 04/28/2008
- Chris See Profile I'm a Fan of Chris permalink

Read the article...In Indiana the ID's are free.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 PM on 04/28/2008
- MelDel7365 See Profile I'm a Fan of MelDel7365 permalink

Didn't know that - Thank you - I stand corrected... They aren't in many states.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 PM on 04/28/2008
- MelDel7365 See Profile I'm a Fan of MelDel7365 permalink

the end of the last sentence is ...but I guarentee you - this will stop more legitimate voters from casting their vote than it will stop voter fraud.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 PM on 04/28/2008
- Warmglobe See Profile I'm a Fan of Warmglobe permalink

Oh please explain that one...:)..I am all ears

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 PM on 04/28/2008
- HouseOfRoberts See Profile I'm a Fan of HouseOfRoberts permalink

Not if the Democratic party will make a concerted effort to reach out to help these voters show up and present valid ID AND make sure potentially caged voters are re-registered and legal. We were caught napping by Karl Rove in 2004, but we are at the "fool me twice, shame on me" election in 2008.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 PM on 04/28/2008