Gates: New US Carrier In Gulf A "Reminder" To Iran

LOLITA C. BALDOR | April 29, 2008 11:15 PM EST | AP

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MEXICO CITY — Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Tuesday that sending a second U.S. aircraft carrier to the Persian Gulf could serve as a "reminder" to Iran, but he said it's not an escalation of force.

Speaking to reporters after meeting with Mexican leaders, Gates said heightening U.S. criticism of Iran and its support for terror groups is not a signal that the administration is laying the groundwork for a strike against Tehran.

Still, he said Iran continues to back the Taliban in Afghanistan.

"I do not have a sense at this point of a significant increase in Iranian support for the Taliban and others opposing the government in Afghanistan," Gates said. "There is, as best I can tell, a continuing flow, but I would still characterize it as relatively modest."

His comments contrasted with those from Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who said last week that he had not seen any new signs of Iranian support for the Taliban.

Gates played down the addition of a second carrier to the Gulf, saying that the number of ships there rises and falls continuously. He said he doesn't expect there to two carriers there for a long time.

Asked if the carrier move went hand in hand with the rising U.S. rhetoric against Iran, Gates said, "I don't see it as an escalation. I think it could be seen, though, as a reminder."

In the past, military officials have said that beefing up the Navy's presence in the Gulf was a way to show that that the U.S. remains committed to the region. And they have acknowledged it also serves as a show of force for other countries there, such as Iran.

In recent weeks, U.S. officials have ratcheted up their complaints that Iran is increasing its efforts to supply weapons and training to militants in Iraq.

Military commanders in Baghdad are expected to roll out evidence of that support soon _ including date stamps on newly found weapons caches showing that recently made Iranian weapons are flowing into Iraq at a steadily increasing rate.

Another senior military official said the evidence will include mortars, rockets, small arms, roadside bombs and armor-piercing explosives _ known as explosively formed penetrators or EFPs _ that troops have discovered in caches in recent months. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the evidence has not yet been made public, said that dates on some of the weapons were well after Tehran signaled late last year that it was scaling back aid to insurgents.

Speaking of Afghanistan on Tuesday, Gates said that the Taliban is changing its tactics there _ from large-scale firefighters to a "significant increase in terrorist acts," including roadside bombs and suicide attacks, similar to the one that unsuccessfully targeted Afghan President Hamid Karzai on Sunday.

At least one police officer has been arrested in connection with the assassination attempt, deepening concerns about the Taliban's infiltration of Afghan security forces.

Gates said, however, he does not have a sense that the infiltration is any worse that it has been before. He said that it is important to screen the security forces well and that military trainers working with those forces need to make that a focus of their efforts.

On other matters, Gates said it was critically important for Congress to approve funding for an anti-drug trafficking program to aid Mexico.

The so-called Merida Initiative is a $500 million proposal to counter drug crime in Mexico. While the Pentagon portion of the program is small, the U.S. military has worked with Mexico to provide intelligence, surveillance and equipment to counter drug cartels.

"We have a shared concern and a shared threat in the drug cartels," Gates said, adding that it will benefit the U.S. to enhance Mexico's ability to deal with them.

He added that if Congress failed to approve the funding _ which is included in the emergency war funding bill _ it would be "a real slap at Mexico."

This is Gates first trip to Mexico City and only the second visit in recent history by a Pentagon chief. The only other U.S. defense leader to travel to Mexico was William Perry, in 1985.

 

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Now to the carriers.
I am a Navy vet and have been extremely interested in carriers for a long time. So maybe I have something to add.
A giant nuclear carrier is a sitting duck. Especially in the Iranian Sea. Take a lesson from WWII and Okinawa. Just look at the damage that was rendered on our elusive carriers in that action. Now substitute dozens of small boats heavily armed with explosives. If and when dozens of small boats were to attack the giant carrier like bees unfortunately the carriers and their support ships couldn't destroy each and every one and so they would strike like bees and most probably destroy the carrier. Remember Okinawa! There are and were lessons to be learned from that action. But I am afraid that any benefit from those lessons was lost. Wake up America. It seems to be getting late.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 AM on 05/02/2008

Here they, the administration, go again. Arms from Iran. Yes maybe arms from Iran but not in the manner that the administration would have us believe.
The insurgents need arms. Arms cost a lot of cash. You can't buy arms with a check. It has been a long practice in the middle east and elsewhere for that matter to buy and sell arms. These folks are called arms merchants. Now the insurgents have a lot of cash complements of our neglect with a full accounting of our money to Iraq. They turn to the arms merchants to buy those arms and must pay cash for them. The country of Iran doesn't "give" arms to anyone but the arms merchants can procure them anyway. The Iranian arms in Iraq are arms purchased with our cash from those merchants. Don't you believe otherwise unless positive proof is demonstrated. We must get over our niavete when it comes to these affairs. The administration is just taking advantage of our lack of sophistication. A pox on their heads!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 PM on 05/01/2008

With the second carrier in the Gulf this vile administration can carry out 24/7 attacks on a country which has never attacked the U.S. in a sick, morbid attempt to keep this criminal Fake Republican administration in power.

It's time to start rounding-up and prosecuting these false patriots and their fellow-travellers before they bring their crimes against humanity home to our once great country.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 AM on 05/01/2008

Wonder how much it costs taxpayers to send a fully loaded carrier there just for "show" as they say?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 PM on 04/30/2008

If this does'nt lead us to war with Iran it won't be for lack of trying.
Does anyone remember the "Tonkin Gulf". This was the precurser to Viet Nam War. Bush/Chenney wont rest until they completely destroy the country.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 PM on 04/30/2008

The economy is a real problem. Hard to get the sheep hopped up about Iran when they have other worries.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 PM on 04/30/2008

From the Gulf, to the Gulf and Back to the Gulf : 1990-2008 (and beyond)

The first Bush Presidency assumed the military road to empire building but tried to avoid the high costs of occupation and colonization. The Israeli colonial model had to await the Zionist occupation of policy-making positions in later administrations. The first Iraq War was intended to project US imperial military power, secure US economic interests among the Gulf oil states (Kuwait and Saudi Arabia) as well as expand Israeli influence in the Middle East. Most of all it was seen as the launching of a "New World Order; centered in US world supremacy, supported by docile allies and financed by rich Arab oil states.
Shortly after the Gulf War, the triple alliance, which emerged during the war, collapsed as Europe pursued its own market-driven empire in competition with the US, Saudi Arabia paid some of the US military expenditures and then abruptly ended its funding, and domestic opposition grew as the electorate demanded less imperial expenditures and the re-building of the domestic economy.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 04/30/2008

"His comments contrasted with those from Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who said last week that he had not seen any new signs of Iranian support for the Taliban."

Oh my effing GAWD. Does anyone remember that Iran nearly invaded Afghanistan in 2000? That the Wahhabist Taliban considers Shi'a Islam a heretical sect? That Iran agreed to help the US invade Afghanistan in 2001?

This is just another example of the idiot neocons shoving our enemies together. Whatever happened to "divide and conquer"?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 04/30/2008

Do you think russia,sryia, and the other countries are going to stand by and do nothing !
the united states are hated for starting wars and continue to start war's
those other countries have nuke's and will exspect the USA to invade thier country
and world war 3 will began Bush has all ready said he will use nuke's
nobody will be alive after a nuke! war except Bush,Chaney will be safe in their underground bunkers
Bush and Chaney hate the american People look what they have done to this great country!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 04/30/2008

There is a lot posturing going on but I doubt U.S will open up the Iran front. There is no political will for this. U.S has to keep posturing because they have run of out options. Iran is also in the hole, the economy is really shot and the leadership is realizing they need a face-saving way to get things going before they get the boot. Both sides are holding weak cards hoping the other guy will blink first. More of the same, we have a Mexican standoff here. Gates is in Mexico confirming the standoff!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 04/30/2008

If we were to list Gates, GWB, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Putin, Blair, Ahmadinejad, al-Sadr, add any others you would like, in what order would you place them as to who has told you the most lies.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:44 PM on 04/30/2008

You know we've heard rumors that Bush wants to bomb Iran this year. I would say this is more than a reminder to Iran. Congress you need to act quickly to put Bush and Cheney on notice. Get the impeachment papers ready and hold them tightly for I fear what they have planned.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:32 PM on 04/30/2008

Never mind the impeachment of these war mongering bastards get the gallows constructed on the WH lawn.I believe that the resignation of Admiral Fallon as Supreme Mid East Commander was due to his rejection of a WH scenario for attacking Iran on some trumped up horseshit devised by the Bush/Cheney gang.Now we have a much more compliant General in charge who owes his fourth star to Georgie baby and will due and say whatever is required to justify further murder and mayhem in the ME.I only hope and pray that there are more than twenty two patriots in the Senate this time that will stand up and stop this bloodlust.When O' when is the MSM going to become responsible and raise this issue to the top burner and forget about the Reverend Wright and Hippo Hips for five minutes and do their job as journalists instead of WH propagandists.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 PM on 04/30/2008

This should be a reminder to all Americans -- especially those of us who are sickened by the criminal behavior of this administration -- that we have a bunch of greedy, arrogant aggressive warmongers in the White House.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:32 PM on 04/30/2008

Reminder my ass. This is a direct instigation to get them to fire first so Bush can say, see I told you so to justify his fake war. Bush wants them to fire first so we can't say we caused it. Is bush really that insane? Does he know this is going to turn into a major war we can't win? hello. This is grounds for treason. Starting a fake war for profit is illegal. Its ammoral, and its unethical. Iran has a right to own nuclear weapons like any other country. This is about oil. Its about greed. Hello. Bush you scum, its time for your ass to sit in a federal prison. Impeach and jail him now.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:22 PM on 04/30/2008

Think THIS has any bearing on the matter?

http://blacklistednews.com/view.asp?ID=6420

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 04/30/2008

Since the US administration and other governments of other oil industry countries are engaged in efforts to destroy the Iranian economy it makes alot of sense for the Iranians to refuse to accept US dollars or even Euros in payment for oil.

It is certainly reasonable to conclude that the US reminder of our past on ongoing threats to attack Iran - and in Hillary's case "obliterate" Iran - might be a response to such a currancy move on their part.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:28 PM on 04/30/2008

Why are we stuck on a broken record. Now that Admiral Fallen is gone we go fourth to show our might. Gates you would be better served if you followed your own recommendations a couple years ago and down size our military involvement in the middle east and up lifted our diplomatic interests.

I actually think you guys believe the lies that you transpose.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 04/30/2008

Yes, it's a "reminder" to the Iranians that we will never stop meddling in the MIddle East, or at least not until someone stops us. It is a "reminder" to the Iranians that they have every reason to build the Bomb, and to build delivery systems capable of doing real damage to anyone who tries to harm their country, because that is a real deterrent to their enemies. It is a "reminder" to the Iranians of the old adage that "with power comes responsibility", but that we in the U.S. don't seem to have a firm grasp on the "responsibility" part of that equation anymore. It is a "reminder" that Americans like to pick fights with small, impoverished, run-down countries (Panama, El Salvador, Haiti, Iraq) but that they would never dream of f*cking with a country that has a real army, real soldiers, and real weapons (India, China, Russia, Turkey). It is a "reminder" to Iran that the stronger, deadlier, and better equipped their armed forces become, the less real risk they run of ever being attacked by the biggest bully on the block.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 04/30/2008

Isn't it amazing that those nasty Iranians are "meddling" in the Middle East? Why would this rogue state do such a thing?

This US administration is beyond the boundaries of the absurd. If there was not so much theft and death, the situation would almost be comical. The next "reminder" to the Iranians may be the deployment of the aircraft carrier George H. W. Bush (CVN-77).

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 PM on 04/30/2008

I can't believe that our country would send a message to a country who has said it wants to wipe isreal off the map and is sending wepons to Iraq.
What are we thinking?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 04/30/2008

DallasMike, your sarcasm is so on the mark. What are we thinking? Why would we threaten to attack Iran, simply because they are allegedly providing weapons to kill our soldiers? The fact that America supplied Iraq with weapons, money and intelligence to kill Iranians in the Iraq-Iran War in the 80s should have no bearing here. And forget the fact that our government has a...how shall we say it...a rather shady reputation with regards to "fabricating" and cherry-picking intel to drum up support for wars of aggression against innocent countries.And as far as the Israel thing is concerned...well, we have to support our siamese twin, don't we? After all, we are joined at the hip. Besides, our Bible tells us that, to be good Christians, we have to protect Israel...no matter how much hatred their overly-aggressive Zionist policies inflames among the Islamic countries, and no matter how much that hatred manifests itself in the form of terrorism against America because of our protection of Israel.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:20 PM on 04/30/2008

The Iranian President has also said "Iran is a threat to no other country, including the Zionist Entity".

Of course, I'm only supposed to believe him when he says something that helps make our case for attacking Iran. Which we wanted to do long before he even became President.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:43 PM on 04/30/2008

"who has said it wants to wipe isreal off the map and is sending wepons to Iraq.
What are we thinking?" - DallasMike

Provide a link! If you can't, then take your zionist propaganda to a sight where someone may actually believe it! Phone Rush, he won't ask you for a link!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 PM on 04/30/2008


Omitted from this article is a discussion of Iran's selling oil in Euros only, except for Japan where they accept Euros and Yen. Saddam did the same and was attacked.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/04/30/business/ME-FIN-Iran-Oil.php

http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5gLCTL75gFfMHXlTpNLQe2N-jDBUg

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 PM on 04/30/2008

Do a search on the Iranian Oil Bourse, its enlightening.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 04/30/2008

W's (short) To-Do List:

1. Put in place a law that will absolve you of any responsibilities
for actions/inactions during your presidency.

2. Place aircraft carrier, complete with attack planes,
necessary weaponry, ample bomb supply, Near Iran prior to
departing oval office. Call it "a reminder" (to invade Iran or at
least have the means already available for Clinton).

3. Render behind the scenes aid to ensure that Clinton relieves you.

4. Remember to write the Reagan family, your dad and Bill Clinton a thank
you note for laying the groundwork for your presidency.

5. Give the finger to the crowd & world-wide news camera coverage as
you depart the oval office.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 PM on 04/30/2008

Pull your stinking speedboat up to this one towel head. America rules.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 04/30/2008

Yes, let's start another war over a speedboat.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 PM on 04/30/2008

I fear it may be something more like a salvo of Chinese-made Sunburn anti-ship missiles.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 PM on 04/30/2008

Don't you ever tire of being recognized as a racist, inbred moron?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 04/30/2008

I'm so embarrassed that these people come from Texas (well one isn't really from Texas-Bush) anyway I digress. Ah Mr. Gates....are these the same Taliban who were courted in Texas? "The Taliban, Afghanistan's Islamic fundamentalist army, is about to sign a 2billion contract with an American oil company to build a pipeline across the war-torn country. The Taliban ministers and theri advisers stayed in a five-star hotel and were chauffeured in a company minibus.The men, who are accoustomed to life without heating, electricity or running water, were amazed by the luxurious homes of Texan oil barons.-by Caroline Lees International new Sunday14,Dec. 1997----everybody go out and buy ITeq stock!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 PM on 04/30/2008

A news brief was just posted this evening on CNN that the World Jewish Congress is opposed to the construction of a natural gas pipeline from Iran to Switzerland claiming it is a threat to Israel and the US. WOW! Talk about streches!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 PM on 04/30/2008

Want to relate this to the future? Read Naomi Klein"s brilliant book, The Shock Doctrine, and find there our future defined in brutal Truth. Expect:

further impoverishment of our people by continued of fallout from induced high gasoline costs and failure to fund urgently needed infrastructure projects
continued betrayal of our workers by off shoring more and more of our livelihoods, and hiring H-1B cheap foreign professional workers here
increasing public rage leading to strikes, food riots and angry street protests
the seeding of peaceful protests by violent right wing thugs, as the Nazis did in1930s Germany
imposition of martial law allegedly to "protect the public" from the violence present in those riots
manufactured "incidents" of Iranian aggression in order to justify another war
at last, removal of our soldiers from Iraq--in order to send them into Iran,
prevention by any means including assassination, of Obama (the only candidate hostile to this corporate plan,) being elected to the Presidency
"postponement"of the November election in the midst of the resulting disastrous crisis in order to insure "continuity of government" during the existence of this contrived national disaster.

If you think this projection is off the wall fantasy, then you don"t understand Kline"s thoroughly documented thesis. You can post this prediction in a time capsule. FOR THE SAKE OF OUR TOMORROW, BUY THIS BOOK, STUDY IT, AND GIVE COPIES TO THOSE WHO YOU KNOW SHOULD ALSO READ IT.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 PM on 04/30/2008

Agreed...the Gulf of Tonkin (false flag) will look like child's play when historians look back on the Project For A New American Century's desired "...new Pearl Harbor" (9/11, our false flag that is the biggest elephant in the room). It's not just the MSM that's been dummied down, it's us...few people even know what false flag events are, few know why one was called for by the neocons in the 1990's via PNAC. People, wake up! You do not have to believe what the MSM tells you...we have so much information at our fingertips...you just need to use google or youtube and take 15 minutes to investigate 9/11 on your own. All three buildings came down at near free fall speed...they are the only 3 buildings IN HISTORY to completel