Clinton's Gas Tax Plan Called 'Ineffective', 'Shortsighted'

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The Washington Post published yet another article today showing the negative reactions to Hillary Clinton's plan to suspend the federal gas tax.

A growing chorus -- including a top congressional Democrat -- labeled Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's proposal for suspending the federal gasoline tax ineffective and shortsighted yesterday, even as she continued to paint Sen. Barack Obama as insensitive to drivers' woes for not endorsing the plan.


Yesterday, HuffPost's Sam Stein published
a comprehensive article about how Clinton has nonexistent expert support for the plan:

Surely, however, there must be someone out there not associated with a politician or a candidate who supported the idea of a gas tax reprieve -- especially if, as Clinton suggests, it would be paid for by an excess profits tax on oil companies.

I emailed Howard Wolfson, Clinton's spokesperson, asking him to put me in touch with an economic or environmental analyst who favored his boss' plan. He never wrote back.

So I took the task upon myself. I would call experts from all sides of the ideological aisle to get a sense of where the debate stood. In the end, every single analyst I surveyed judged the gas tax holiday proposal to be, roughly speaking, a silly, superfluous, or outright pandering idea.


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The value of this stuff has not Quadrupled in 5 years! There is no stock I could by that has done that either, over the last five years. This is an example of market manipulation, not supply and demand.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 AM on 05/06/2008

Would someone please give me the bill number of the gas solution that leader and uniter Obama has put before the house. Anyone? Anyone? Nothing from Obama? Well, that's what we have come to expect from Obama.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 PM on 05/04/2008

Sometimes it is wisest to say nothing and be thought a fool, than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 PM on 05/05/2008

Instead of eliminating the gas tax, let's earmark the gas tax to pay for alternative feul. So everytime we go to the pump, we are paying for a way to get us out of this oil dependency mess.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 AM on 05/02/2008

We need to boycott Chevron! Toyota was making an electric car in California. Needed NO gas! Chevron bought the company that was making the batteries. We need to NOT buy gas from Chevron!! We don't need any phony calls for alternative energy. BOYCOTT CHEVRON

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 AM on 05/04/2008

With all the brilliant journalists scrambling to report the story on Sen. Barack Obama"s megalomaniacal pastor Rev. Wright, it seems none are left anymore to scrutinize Hillary"s friends.

Many people have unfairly linked Sen. Obama to Louis Farrakhan, especially Hillary, who in one of the debates lambasted her opponent and meanly tried to impugn his character.

But if anyone had bothered to investigate Hillary"s staunchest supporters by plugging in the name "Farrakhan" on YouTube.com, they would have soon found a "Gotcha" to hit her on the head with.

Sen. Clinton"s backer, Pennsylvania governor Ed Rendell who campaigned and carried the state for her, not only has praised Farrakhan in public, but also considers him a personal friend.

Being a "governor," Ed Rendell praising Farrakhan in a formal and official setting should be a greater concern for the voters and the Clinton camp than an egocentric pastor"s rant in church.

If using the nasty "guilt by association" tactic is an appropriate tool to define Sen. Obama"s integrity, then in all fairness, the same yardstick should apply to measure Hillary"s.

Pennsylvania Governor Rendell Praises Farrakhan and N.O.I.

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6PfM0gYZeQ

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCGaIhlvyF4

Video shows Rev. Jeremiah Wright praising Bill Clinton in a sermon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvMbeVQj6Lw

After watching the videos, hopefully some journalists will start asking Hillary Clinton and Gov. Rendell some tough questions to explain their relationship with Louis Farrakhan.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 AM on 05/02/2008

The idea to freeze the gas tax for a season is originally McCain"s.

Hillary saw yet another opportunity to hustle votes from desperate Americans who are deceived into believing the tax break of a few cents helps put money in their pockets.

Now, these two cunning politicians want to implement a temporary fix -- guaranteed to fail, hoping the worthless gas tax relief is going to bolster their popularity among voters " against Obama!

This same disingenuous Hillary Clinton, who had previously opposed a gas tax holiday in 2000, now says it"s a great idea. Sounds like one of those "Bosnia Sniper" moments or relapses in memory.

http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=4763893

"As oil prices continue to climb, Clinton explained her support for the gas tax holiday, which would suspend the 18.4-cents-per-gallon federal tax on gasoline during the summer months. Her support comes despite having opposed a similar reduction in the same tax when running for the Senate in 2000."

McCain"s plan only results in a savings of $28.00 over three months; or 30 cents per day.

Sen. Obama had adamantly opposed such a reckless proposition, which obviously doesn"t provide long term solutions.

Two Noble Prize winners have endorsed Sen. Barack Obama"s economic policies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk8XpLHG_4A

Obama has once again proven his superiority over Hillary and McCain, by clearly showing good judgment when it comes to life and death; bread and butter matters impacting American lives.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 AM on 05/02/2008

I heard, can't remember from where, that opec is only charging $60 per barrell for gas! It is at wall street the price goes to $117 per barrell to pay for pipe line! Does anyone have more info on this?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 AM on 05/04/2008

yes, I can help you. China puts 2,000 NEW CARS on their roads every single day. 2,000 additional cars.

Gas is never going to be cheap again. And India is only getting started.

In the end, we will all have to drive RECHARGEABLE cars. There will be no choice, gas will not be affordable. The only question is will the supposed "environmentalist" force us to keep using and building coal plant energy to charge those cars, or will environmentalists abandon their anti nuclear RELIGION and let us charge those cars with energy that comes from a carbon free nuclear plant? Yes we will have solar and we will have wind but it's coal or nuclear that will provide the bulk of our energy....for the sake of our air and our planet....it needs to be nuclear. Period.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 PM on 05/04/2008

It's 18 cents a gallon in Bahrain, 23 in Venezuela...

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 AM on 05/06/2008

Hmmm...

"Ineffective" and "shortsighted"?

Why would this plan be any different than the rest of Hillary's campaign? LOL

OBAMA 08

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 PM on 05/01/2008

It's more than ineffective and shortsighted. That's the problem.

This is a ruse for Hillary to trick a few more uninformed voters. She just has to hold them from learning the facts until 5/6. then they cast their votes expecting some windfall to come from Big Oil straight into their pockets, even if for summer only.

On one hand I deplore her tactics to pander and stoop to low gutter tactics to tout a plan that will harm the economy and transportation infrastructure, and will not win anyone any money except Big Oil....

But I've got to think that people who believe this idiotic speaking point of Hillary McCain (yep, one candidate: have you ever seen them in one place lately??) are so stupid that they almost deserve a terrible choice for president.

If only hey could live with Hillary McCain as their president on their own little special island....

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 PM on 05/01/2008

She seems to be holding them really good. She is ahead in Indiana. People know that this is wrong but they have other reasons for voting for her.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 AM on 05/02/2008

Who knew that taxing people less was "evil"? Paul Krugman is a fool especially in these times of rising costs. However, I must agree with the sentiment that Clinton and McCain"s proposals are foolish. Neither does anything to solve our energy 'crisis' and it is a crisis, unless we start looking toward our own resources right now.

If we"d have opened ANWR for drilling in 1993, we could be using that oil to soften the blow we"re feeling today. It won"t solve our problems and nobody ever said it would, but to leave it sit untapped, even for emergency use is foolish. Less than 200 miles away, Canada is drilling the heck out of the area solving their oil independence problems. Yet, we"re sitting on our hands fretting about caribou that nobody sees, let alone really cares about from day to day.

No matter what we do, we"re at least 10 years away from recovery. That"s how long it will take to build any new refineries, to drill productive wells, or to expand or build new nuclear or coal fired electric plants.

Democrats have pinched off all our energy supplies for the last 13 years in an effort to force conservation never taking into account GROWTH in jobs or population. Unfortunately, we"re going to pay for those mistakes for at least as long again.

Hang on to your rationed rice folks; it"s going to be a long, bumpy, and expensive ride!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:33 PM on 05/01/2008

RSU,

Don't people see? For the last 20 years there has been Bush/Clinton in the White House. They have not tried to solve our oil dependence problem. Obama is trying to do this and he said what Clinton/McCain is proposing is a bandage. She is sticking to her decision as the old polictics of Washington do.

Sadly, there is no way that you can convince a Hillary supporter otherwise. They use Rev. Wright as a crutch for not listening to Obama.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 AM on 05/02/2008

Dear Huffington Post.
If deleting my comments is your way of preventing freedom of speech, well congratulations.
You have succeeded in stifling debate, preventing open communication and directing
the election process toward your choice for president. How George Bush of you.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 05/01/2008

One gas station charges 76cents/gallon for 76 hours, & people waited in line for hours. Only about 100 got to fill up. Take the tax holiday while we wait for real change to occur. A penny saved is a penny earned, especially when you only have pennies to spend. Are these people who don't want the tax holidays hurting for money, food, or healthcare?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:31 PM on 05/01/2008

Just wondering...

I think we're all agreed that the "gas tax holiday" is nonsense. I know Obama's rejected it, but exactly what is his plan to deal with the cost of gas in the short term?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 PM on 05/01/2008

You dont need short term fixes on lifetime issues.You have to seek permanent solutions.It might take a while to analys and design a fully woring solution,but if you dont start and keep relying of short term,then u will never fix it.
It simple Senator Obama is looking for something he cld confidently pass on to his precious little daugther,and not let them inherit trouble.The others are only looking for a way to get in to history books.after they wld have achieved that,then they can say "You are on your own"

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 AM on 05/02/2008

The price of gas is not the problem. Our dependence upon gas and placing it above the need for food to feed the poor is. If anything, the tax on gas should be raised to further discourage the consumption of oil.

You want to become less dependent on the terror supporting OPEC countries? Use less, oil, don't cut the price and encouraging increased consumption.

Encourage the rebuilding of our train systems and use mass transit, don;t encourage burning more oil by making it cheaper.

800 million car owners advocate turning more food grains into fuel, while the poorest 2 billion in the world starve. Are you so selfish that the cost of your gallon of gas is more vital than food for the poor? Can you see your way to using less gas?

You are focused on the wrong problem. Not the cost of gas, but the cost of our dependence upon oil and our arrogance in its use.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:27 PM on 05/01/2008

Billary's gas tax plan called "ineffective", just like her time as senator of New York. Can anyone tell me of an accomplishment that she has had as senator?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 PM on 05/01/2008

She has requested $3.2 BILLION for PORK BARREL EARMARKS this year.

THE MOST PORK EVER REQUESTED BY A SENATOR. That's MOST EVER.

Let me emphasize: MOST PORK EVER.

She's gonna be in the record books for that only.

Isn't that accomplishment ENOUGH for ya??

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 PM on 05/01/2008


The best way to lower oil prices is to release some form the USA's startegic oil reserve.

Hillary has pointed that out. I don't know if Obama mentioned it, too. Maybe he did.

But it is the best way to drive market prices down.

Previous presidents have do so to keep gas affordable.

Bush refuses.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 PM on 05/01/2008

The best way to lower oil prices is to mandate that all cars sold in America must be flex fuel capable, creating a competing market place for liquid fuel alternatives, a cost to the new car buyer of about $200 to $500. The creation of a competitive fuel market would break the monopoly held by OPEC. In addtion, we should stop subsidizing oil companies with money borrowed from China and Saudi Arabia and start spending "national defense funds" on developing Alternative energy sources.

The Clinton/McCain "tax holiday" is vote pandering. Why haven't either one of them raced back to Washington to file this bill? You know what's really funny is that is exactly what we should be prepared for in America. The Clinton/McCain ticket. OMFG!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 PM on 05/01/2008

There is a car in Europe that gets 150MPG! We can have them imported here within a month. Fuel effiency will go up about 500% !

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:56 AM on 05/04/2008

The best way to lower oil prices is to stop ADDING to the SOR at these prices. We need not release anything to stop the speculation that's driving the price per barrel.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:40 PM on 05/01/2008

Here's the problem with Hillary's plan: it lowers the tax on gasoline at a time when raising the price would do more to discourage the use of gasoline.

Better still, an $80/barrel tax on imported oil. Domestic producers would benefit and the amount of oil we use would go down.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 PM on 05/01/2008

Another problem:

Oil companies have no incentive whatsoever to keep the prices down.

What do you think will happen when we are used to paying X for a gallon and now it's X - 18.4 cents??

The price will be back up to X in a blink because the oil companies know they CAN CHARGE that much and we'll still buy it.

So, all the money "saved" is a ruse, and the same 18.4 cents, maybe up to 23.6 cents, go STRAIGHT TO THE OIL COMPANIES.

Great move. Only from the mind of that great preidential candidate HILLARY McCAIN.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 PM on 05/01/2008

That's right Hillary, suspend the gas tax. The 50 states who get infrastructure money from that tax are gonna love doing without Federal funding. Good thing the states aren't having financial problems of their own; they can afford it. Right.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 PM on 05/01/2008

If she's proposing it, why doesn't she freaking propose it? She's a United States Senator, after all. It's the end of April. If it's going to be in effect by summer, starting now is even too late. But she hasn't, has she? She's "proposing" it to voters in Indiana and North Carolina to buy votes with absolutely, positively, no chance on God's green earth of it ever happening because she has absolutely no intention of doing anything about it, or she would have. This is beyond the pale, even for Hillary

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 PM on 05/01/2008

It's just a ruse to win a few uninformed votes in IN and NC. Her last ditch effort.

Congresisonal leaders have already declared Hillary McCain's (it's one candidate, really) tax holiday plan completely useless and they will not have any of it.

That's why she's going around IN and NC talking about this useless plan, without doing anything concrete. Because she knows if she actually tried to push for it she'd get her butt laughed off Capitol Hill.

She knows it will get shot down and ridiculed in DC, but she's gonna stick it out for the next 5 days to LIE about it being a great idea in IN and NC. I feel sorry for the easily fooled, definitely low-education-level Hillary supporters. They are disadvantaged and can't know any better....

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:53 PM on 05/01/2008

Well she spoke abt Rezkco and Farakhan in Texas and Ohio.She talked about Ayers and Rev Wright in Pennsylvania. There has been no new association by guilt event on Obama recently and Hillary has no Policy issue to talk abt,what do u then expect of the poo old woman.(rich ,more like)

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 AM on 05/02/2008

Wouldn't it be interesting if someone used video screen shots to show how draconian the moderation has gotten here? Apparently, if you post a CBS article that shows Senator Obama once supported similar gas tax relief your message will be deleted.

If you continue to stifle dissent HP you are going to be exposed.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 05/01/2008

MutualDisdain

You are right and Hillary tried to use it aganst him but it comes up as barely true because it was benefits to that energy bill. Read and weep!!


Responding to a PolitiFact inquiry, the Clinton campaign referred to a speech she made on the Senate floor, citing her opposition to the bill because, in part, it ignored pressing energy challenges, including U.S. dependence on foreign oil. "The bill includes billions in subsidies for mature energy industries, including oil and nuclear," Clinton said in her July 29, 2005, remarks.

However, this reasoning ignores the fact that tax breaks for oil and gas producers encourage domestic production, which helps reduce reliance on foreign oil.

Clinton is right that Obama voted for the bill and she didn't. But because she incorrectly depicts the 2005 energy bill as a setback to renewable energy and a sop to Big Oil, we find her statement to be Barely True.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 AM on 05/02/2008