Analysis: Momentum, Obama's distractions give Clinton hope

BETH FOUHY | May 2, 2008 07:50 AM EST | AP

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Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., speaks during a campaign rally in Terre Haute, Ind. Thursday, May 1, 2008. (AP Photo/Elise Amendola)

LOUISVILLE, Ky. — Hillary Rodham Clinton has an unmistakable bounce in her step these days _ a sense of energy and optimism that somehow belies the daunting challenge she faces in wresting the Democratic presidential nomination from Barack Obama.

"I feel good. We're making progress every day," she told supporters Thursday in Kentucky, which holds its primary May 20. "Wish I could be here for the Derby. ... I hope everyone's going to place a little money on the filly," a reference perhaps to horse Eight Belles and herself.

Buoyed by her convincing win in Pennsylvania's primary April 22, Clinton has been campaigning intensively before Indiana and North Carolina's contests next week. She's greeted by large crowds who respond enthusiastically to her plans for improving the faltering economy, and several polls out this week suggest she would be the stronger candidate to face Republican John McCain this fall, both nationally and in important swing states.

Obama, meanwhile, is still contending with the fallout from the controversy surrounding his former pastor and polls showing a tight contest in Indiana, where he once led.

While Obama has won several superdelegate endorsements this week, including that of former DNC chairman and one-time Clinton backer Joe Andrew, the former first lady has secured a few of her own after weeks of superdelegate drought. On Tuesday, she got a boost in North Carolina with the endorsement of Democratic Gov. Mike Easley, another superdelegate.

All of which has given her advisers at least a glimmer of hope that, after a long period of being thought a sure loser, Clinton has regained enough momentum to persuade uncommitted superdelegates to give her candidacy another look. While it may still be a long shot, advisers believe she is in a stronger position to make that argument now than she has been for much of the primary season.

"There is a settled view among Democrats and in the general electorate that Senator Clinton is the better candidate to have knowledge and leadership to turn the economy around," Clinton strategist Geoff Garin said, noting what he called the former first lady's "continued success and Senator Obama's continued difficulty connecting with blue-collar and middle-income voters, both men and women."

Indeed, Clinton advisers say conversations with uncommitted superdelegates suggest they are concerned about Obama's persistent weakness among some key demographic groups, particularly Catholic and Hispanic voters. In nominating contests so far this year, Clinton has bested Obama among both groups by a margin of 60 percent to 36 percent.

Then there's the Illinois senator's well-publicized tangle with his pastor of 20 years, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Obama broke with his spiritual mentor earlier this week after Wright made a number of controversial statements to reporters in Washington, including suggestions that the U.S. government had invited the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks and the U.S. government was capable of planting AIDS in the black community.

The uproar over Wright has thrown Obama badly off message in a week he hoped to regain footing among working-class whites in Indiana and elsewhere. Clinton advisers believe the controversy has further demonstrated their belief that Obama may be too unknown and untested to stand up as the party's nominee.

"In my district, Senator Clinton got 67 percent and I think a large part of that was Jeremiah Wright and those issues. It looks like she's got the momentum," said Jason Altmire, an undecided superdelegate from Pennsylvania.

Clinton strategists also contend that Obama's message of hope and political reconciliation has worn thin in recent months as the tanking economy has become voters' dominant concern. Clinton's emphasis on policy proposals such as her plan to ease home foreclosures has more salience with voters than Obama's theme of mending a broken system in Washington, her advisers believe.

Clinton has tried to cast herself as the champion of the middle class even as she casts Obama as out of touch with the concerns of those voters. For example, she's advocating a summer gas tax holiday _ an idea Obama opposes and one that has been widely panned by a range of influential economists.

Still, Clinton strategists acknowledge the odds still don't favor her.

Obama is ahead in the popular vote, pledged delegates and contests won. She would have to win about 80 percent of the remaining pledged delegates to pull nearly even with Obama _ an almost insurmountable hurdle. And her campaign's efforts to restore the results of Michigan and Florida's disputed primaries have failed.

Her strategists also acknowledge an all-but-certain outcry among black voters _ the Democratic Party's most reliable constituency _ if superdelegates were to back Clinton over Obama if he finishes the primary season ahead in the popular vote and delegate count. But they argue that women could have a similar reaction if Clinton is perceived to be treated unfairly by the process.

Clinton also has real electability problems of her own _ years of baggage from her time as first lady that have led to persistent questions about her honesty and integrity. And little is known about Bill Clinton's post-presidential speaking engagements and business deals that have helped the couple earn more than $109 million since 2001.

In the short term, the New York senator is pressing for a win in Indiana and a narrower-than-expected loss in North Carolina, which has a large population of black and liberal voters. Many observers believe her candidacy could be doomed without a win in Indiana.

The remaining contests through June 3 could include terrain favorable to Clinton, including West Virginia, Kentucky and Puerto Rico. Her campaign is holding out hope that she could bring her popular vote total to within striking distance of Obama while continuing to press for some resolution of the Florida and Michigan contests.

"She's still in the wilderness and in the forest, but the glimmer of sunshine has gotten slightly brighter," Democratic strategist Jenny Backus said. "Her way to the nomination is a way that is dangerous to the Democratic Party because it could open up divisions and separations that would take us generations to rebuild. The people she has to convince to get there are the activists who care about the future of the party more than anyone in the country."

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EDITOR'S NOTE _ Beth Fouhy covers presidential politics for The Associated Press.

 

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I don't think Obama has been distracted. I think he has been able to look very presidential and all Clinton can do is nash her teeth at the media coverage he is getting.
We are getting the MSM spin that he is distracted but on the 'street' his crediability is only going up.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 05/02/2008

Hope is good when you have a chance
If you you don't have a chance-you sound looney
Hillary is like Huckabee
This race is over
Obama Won

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 PM on 05/02/2008

how about this little "distraction"?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN_nQOHj__s

Indiana voters need to see it NOW!!

Shameful! This is how much Hillary REALLY thinks of you.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 PM on 05/02/2008

I'm an Obama supporter - and his supporter need to stop circulating this - it is questionable at BEST and even if Kantor DID say what the video suggests - it is a DISTRACTION. And as such, it is antithetical to EVERYTHING Obama stands for.

Stop. If Obama wins votes with this - it would be like winning an important basketball game because the star player is out with an injury. He can win on the issues, he can win on his ability to inspire, he can win on his platform of CHANGE - which means that how ever tempting it is to circulate this stuff - we, as his supporters, should NOT...this is the type of stuff for which Hillary is notorious - do not lower our candidate to her level.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 PM on 05/02/2008

TO ALL THE VOTERS:
Since the media is refusing to reveal/report the Paul vs Clinton fraud case in court right now, we need to create our own movement and flood every blog on CNN and every blogging website on the World Wide Web with information from the case regardless of what the topic is. For those that don't know - Google Paul vs Clinton and hold on to your shirt with what you read!!
For those of you who think this case has been thrown out or is irrelevant:
"In the landmark civil fraud case against Bill Clinton in Los Angeles, where the former President is charged with defrauding a Hollywood dot com millionaire to help Hillary Clinton obtain more than $1.2 million from him for her 2000 Senate campaign, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Aurelio Munoz ruled on Friday, April 25, 2008 that Hillary Clinton would not be required to testify in a sworn deposition as a material witness in the case until AFTER the November election!."(paulvclinton.com)
Here is the kicker - the judge is a Bill Clinton appointee!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 PM on 05/02/2008

Indianans need to get a load of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN_nQOHj__s

Disgraceful!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 AM on 05/02/2008

Stop. If Obama wins votes with this - it would be like winning an important basketball game because the star player is out with an injury. He can win on the issues, he can win on his ability to inspire, he can win on his platform of CHANGE - which means that how ever tempting it is to circulate this stuff - we, as his supporters, should NOT...this is the type of stuff for which Hillary is notorious - do not lower our candidate to her level.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 05/02/2008

I sort of agree with you, but on the other hand, it's nice to have a reminder, when the news media is "All Wright, all the time", that Obama is not the only one with associates who are less than savory.

I don't like the endless repetition of something that honestly doesn't matter, and this honestly doesn't matter, in the grand scheme of things. Neither does Wright, and neither does Hagee.

But if we're going to hear about how badly Wright is damaging Obama, it's pretty much only fair to even the playing field.

Liam.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 PM on 05/02/2008

So - Clinton can NOT win on her merits - only when the media is giving Obama 24/7 of intensive bad coverage and scrutiny...

She must be so proud.

What an inspiration she is! Kill hope, disparage integrety, discourage inspiration, downplay progress. What a Lovely woman. I'm certain that she will be a fair and honest leader.

I wonder what would happen if the press started to drag out ALL her dirty laundry (including the stuff from the past eight years - for which, regardless of what she argues, she has NOT been fully vetted)

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 05/02/2008

meldel --

Yes, Hillary's behavior would make any Republican proud! She certainly isn't shy about showing her true colors, is she?

As for her un-aired dirty laundry, my guess is the MSM is waiting for the signal from Karl Rove to unload on the Clintons just as soon as they've bagged the nomination. They've been holding their fire on Bill & Hillary to make sure Obama's finished off.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 PM on 05/02/2008

Let not get this twisted, the only hope Hillary has, is that the DNC will not kick her out the party all together. And if she has found any hope in all of this stuff over Wright, she has had or people close to her has had a lot to do with it, along with the MEDIA. Go away, or should I say fly away HRC

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 AM on 05/02/2008

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN_nQOHj__s

If you Live in Indiana, this is what the Clinton campaign thinks of you...

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 05/02/2008

Hope this dashes her hopes........it might if msm would play it in a loop like.......how are we going to get this out to the people that need to see it, the ones that don't do the internet or youtube?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 AM on 05/02/2008

They need to join this disgusting clip with the text of Hillary telling Bill to "screw 'em...they haven't done anything for you" (the working class whites who went republican in '94) The clintons don't give a shit about anyone, ANYONE unless they line their pockets with cash.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 AM on 05/02/2008

... especially given what her advisers think of Indiana:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN_nQOHj__s

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 AM on 05/02/2008

Clinton campaign says Indianans are " s h i t " and "worthless white ni * * ers"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN_nQOHj__s

Tell a friend ...

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 05/02/2008

i wrote to the editor and complained also might try calling the Hoosiers should see this

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=HELP

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 05/02/2008

YES! We're all on the same page with this video! Finally!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 AM on 05/02/2008

let's see if after youtube new video(is in dailykos too)where mikey kantor(hillary top adviser)call indianans ..."sh***t and worthless white ni*****rs.." the msm handle this new scandal the same way they handled rev wright....

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 AM on 05/02/2008

Beth Fouhy From "gaga over Obama.com" writes;
"Clinton also has real electability problems of her own _ years of baggage from her time as first lady that have led to persistent questions about her honesty and integrity. And little is known about Bill Clinton's post-presidential speaking engagements and business deals that have helped the couple earn more than $109 million since 2001."

The only difference is that Hillary has been around long enough to have her baggage examined..we are still in the process of examining Baracks baggage and already he has a short list of 'no no's' that make him look incredibly unelectable.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 AM on 05/02/2008

You're just parroting a Clinton surrogate's argument. Obama's so-called baggage is his associating with wacky Rev Wright. Obama has stated time and time again that he does not agree with Wright's insane opinions and that he and Wright are not joined at the hip. The Clintons' baggage is much more serious, because it illustrates their corruption and dishonesty. And I don't think we've been through all their baggage yet.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 05/02/2008

what you speak of is mere speculation about Clinton, what we do know is that Obama was married by that 'wacky' reverand with 'insane opinions' and he was in the church long enough to have his kids baptized by him..and even was advised by him to title his best selling book, so don't tell me Obama wasn't infuenced by the reverand.
in addition, I don't need surrogates, I can plainly see with my own two eyes at what is going on...my eyes are not glazed over by "gaga over Obama .com"

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 PM on 05/02/2008

don't be so sure you've rummaged through ever last Louis Vuitton Bag.
There's a lot of baggage that hasn't been through the security check yet

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 AM on 05/02/2008

No the corporate controlled media the best friend of a pac and lobbyist money taker is what is giving her hope. I notice there is no whining about the unfairness of the media now cause they've basically jumped on her bandwagon. She is welcome to them Obama is starting to group them together with the status quo. He is making the American people see that they are just merely carrying the water of the lobbyist and corporations. If they want to stay on the air and not lose their jobs they have to report what they are told to.

Carol

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 AM on 05/02/2008

how many of the 'distractions' that obama is bringing to the dance does it take to equal 'fatally flawed?' there is a treasure trove of material uncovered and reported by the chicago press regarding rezko, ayers, obama's state senate campaign and tenure, that has been ignored thus far by the fawning national press. chris lacivita of 'swiftboat veterans' infamy has stated that what obama has been hit with so far is a walk in the park compared with what is to come... if you think the primaries have been nasty, strap yourselves in, folks...'nasty' is going to expand geometrically...

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 AM on 05/02/2008

and do we need to list out anything about Clinton?

Clinton vs. Paul is enough to seal the deal if media would report on it. But heck media is on the bandwagon to swift-boat Obama.

You seriously think Clinton's don't have enough baggage?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 AM on 05/02/2008

the difference is that hillary's baggage has been pawed thru for a decade and a half, and the obama baggage is largely still zipped closed, and every time there's a qustion, we hear that 'it's a non-issue'...the repukes have been after her since '91, and even went for the 'nuclear option': grand juries headed by their own partisan attack dogs, years and years of multi-million dollar investigations...and came up with nothing on her, and the only thing they had on bill was lying about a bj...the biggest problem with you obamnites is that you're all yakking at each other, trying to convince the 'already convinced', in an echo chamber...in the real world, the rest of us aren't falling for it...the gop machine is coming, and it's time to choose...the devil we know, or the devil we don't?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 05/02/2008

it is sort of humorous to me to see someone above referring to the Clinton campaign as "nasty" - just look at the above comments regarding Clinton - the hate, the viciousness - and she and her husband can be regarded as nothing if not at least progressive on social issues; before the race Maya Angelou referred to Bill Clinton as the first black president (yes, she has since endorsed Obama) -

the Obama faithful worry me; they support him almost the way dictators are supported; unquestioningly, excusing every error, pillorying his opponents. I'm proud to support Hillary Clinton as millions of others are. I don't base this on lack of respect for anyone; I simply feel she is the best equipped to be President. Hey Obama supporters - if you think this is a nasty campaign (and historically it's not even close to the worst) - look to yourselves as well as others - it's at least a split - at least.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 AM on 05/02/2008

I'd urge you to look at the campaigns separately from the supporters.

There are jerks on both sides in the supporters. But the actual tactics and statements coming out of the campaigns... Clinton's looks like it could have been put together by Karl Rove. I think what many Obama fans find attractive about him is that he DOESN'T seem to be running out of the "Dirty Politics For Dummies" playbook.

Liam.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 05/02/2008

Ok good for you.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 AM on 05/02/2008

The arithmetic does not add up for Obama and never has. Clinton now has real distance against McCain while Obama is behind. Here is why and from a pure numbers perspective, just like the ones that Obama supporters refer to when counting delegates btw.

EC arithmetic. Hillary runs strongest in new swing states like OH,PA,NJ,AK,TN,FL,KYandWV (113EVs/270). Obama may bring in CO and IA (16EVs/270). Clinton has a Political advantage over Obama in FL/MI representing 16% of EC. Obama is tied to the DNC decision to disenfranchise. Most importantly, Reagan Democrats and Latinos have proven they have flipped Republican recently. Clinton keeps these voters home Obama does not. True Independents will be split between Obama and McCain, progressives could flip to Nader, but the Black base in the Democratic Party has never stayed home, even though some others newly involved in the party may.

Even in the primary, when Obama wins NC Clinton has won 80% of the largest states, reflecting almost 60% of the voters.

It is now structural and does not add up. Obama is a likely loser.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 AM on 05/02/2008

DNC rules do not state the person with the biggest states won, its the person who wins 2025 delegates wins... no matter how they got them...

Your logic is flawed... you are telling me that only Queen Hillary can win CA, NY??? Give it up... those are two of the bluest states and they will go DEM no matter who the nominee is... my home state of CA is going DEMOCRAT in the general even if a chimp were running as the democratic nominee...

you clinton people make NO SENSE... she is worse shape after PENN bc she didn't win by the margin needed... I am a TRUE INDEPENDENT and I was neutral until about last week... I decided to throw my support behind Obama...

and Hillary has more problems than you may think... after her and Bills nasty show of closet racism, most blacks will not for her in the GENERAL... that is the most LOYAL voting block of the Democratic party... they have been the guiding force to make most DEM presidents win... RETHUGS get about 5% of the African American vote... the rest going to DEMS... and she is will most certainly not have that!!! And if you take us for granted and say we won't stay home, try again! I am black, in a very large DEMOCRATIC family and they have all said they will stay home if she is the nominee... along with most of my extended family, friends and co workers!!!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 AM on 05/02/2008

Sorry but I am talking about the general election and obama weakness compared to clinton regarding electability. Also she beat Obama hands down in both NY and CA. Most true independents are going for McCain over Obama anyhow. So it seems you are the minority.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 AM on 05/03/2008

trueindy --

I hear ya! I'm white, female, born & raised in the Deep South, Independent, liberal, and I wouldn't walk across the street to piss on the Clintons if they were on fire.

Please consider voting for Ralph Nader, like I am, if the Clintons are allowed to steal the nomination from Barack, instead of staying home.

That way, the war in Iraq will come to an end, we'll get to see what Dick Cheney, George Bush, and Karl Rove look like in prison suits, and Her Majesty, Hillary, will be looking around for whom to pin the blame for her defeat.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 PM on 05/02/2008

Um.....

I don't know where you get that logic.

Here's some:

It's a stupid mistake to assume that those states will automatically turn Republican should Senator Obama win the nomination.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 AM on 05/02/2008