Libertarians are not anti-government. You're confusing them with Anarchists (who actually vote Green).
I think Bob Barr is an excellent candidate for president and we should all give him a serious look, and I'm not just saying that. Okay, yes I am. He's an evil dingbat. But we should certainly encourage our Republican friends to check him out. They might like what they see.
Right now, Bob Barr is angling to be the Libertarian Party candidate. And why shouldn't a party of anti-government paranoids nominate a former prosecutor, congressman and CIA agent? It makes perfect sense to me.
If the Libertarians nominate him, he claims he can deliver seven percent of the vote. This figure comes from a poll conducted by his exploratory committee and sounds reasonably believable only if you accept the premise that seven out of a hundred Americans have heard of Bob Barr.
Maybe they're thinking of Bobby Bare.
Still, wouldn't it be nice? Elections are won and lost on third parties that get seven percent of the other guy's vote. Ralph Nader got less than 3% in 2000, and look how well that turned out.
At the very least, if Bob Barr could get his shit together, he could make John McCain fight for the cranks.
Who speaks for them now? The loners in camo... the ham radio operators... the tax resisters... the silver hoarders and disgruntled former warehouse employees... the people who write threatening letters to women's health clinics, but can't mail them, because they don't recognize the legitimacy of the post office... the flinty-eyed realists, vigilantly steeling themselves for the day when we throw off our Mexican overlords, the Trilateral Commission, the Bureau of Land Management and, I dunno, Katie Couric... STAND BACK, YOU UNICEF SNIPER SQUADS IN YOUR REVERSE-ENGINEERED UFOS! YOU'LL GET MY GUN WHEN YOU PRY IT FROM MY COLD DEAD LOVE LIFE!
You know, values voters.
The Ron Paul moment has passed and his people have got to go somewhere, if only to get some fresh air and little sun.
If Bob Barr could win them, who's vote would John McCain have left?
Okay, Joe Lieberman. But who else?
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Libertarians are not anti-government. You're confusing them with Anarchists (who actually vote Green).
Yeah, they're anti *having* a government.
Ron Paul's new book "The Revolution: A Manifesto" opened at #1 on Amazon.com and is sold out. When they restock, maybe you should look through it, Chris.
Haven't you had enough of the Wars on Pover... er ... Dru ... er ... Terror?
Yeah, but I think Chris LIKES black folks.
The guy wants us to go back to the gold standard, and there isn't enough gold to cover it. He's an idiot, and you bought it. Good for you.
Oh my! We're not about to hit peak gold, are we?
"If Bob Barr could win them, who's vote would John McCain have left?"
Marcia Pappas.
Screw Bob Barr, Mike Gravel is running for the Libertarian Party Presidential nomination. Why not Gravel? Libertarians need to quit living in fantasy land. Even if by some freak occurance Ron Paul became president, I gurantee the Republicans and Democrats in Congress would band together to override Paul's vetos and stop him from dismantling "Big Government". The Federal government isn't the problem. The problem is how easily the people we elect for President and Congress can be bought out by special interest and insanely large corporations. Gravel's plan to enact a National Ballot Initiative is the only way "the people" and all these Libertarian hard-ons will be able to have their voices heard and free us from the stranglehold of Big Business and Big Government. And why not? Many cities and states allow their citizens to propose and vote on laws... Why not allow the people to do the same on a Federal level? If the vote was up to the American people and not a very small number of easily swayed individuals(in most cases seeking reelection), would we still be in Iraq or paying $4 a gallon for gas? The mere existence of "government" isn't the problem. It's the fact that we citizens have no voice and no vote in "government". The best we can do is how the person we're voting for on election day isn't a total liar and won't sell us out. I say take a closer look at Mike Gravel.
Ah, Bobby Bare. He had an excellent hit record called "The Winner".
I thought he was an exotic dancer.
HEY! I'm a Librul silver hoarder.
The "Ron Paul moment" may or may not have passed, but he surely could pull more votes than Barr, who is less attractive to just about anyone, and has less name recognition to boot.
Tell me again Chris, how many African Americans are members in the US Congress? The biggest and sickist joke is the corporate media parading its outrage of Jeremiah Wright suggestion that America is a racist society, all the while this same media continues to pretend that having an all-white Republican national party is normal. What the Bush administration's bungling of Katrina showed was that 'abnormality' and that it can not understand the people, when it is run and funded by a narrow segment of the populace.
The continuing injustice being perpetrated by the MSM is treating the Republican party like a legitimacy political philosophy which operates to solve issues; rather it is a gimmick thrown onto the people because its members are the ones who control the 'ferreting out' of the information. If after 8 years, the policies of the Republican party haven't clearly proven they do not work to solve the everyday issues of Americans, then those who continue to advance their agenda will indeed deserve the further dismantling of the American economy and political landscape.
Ron Paul's moment is far from having passed. It's just beginning.
I personally don"t like Bob Barr. I"m a registered Libertarian that join the Libertarian Party because of their position on ending the War on Drugs (and other pro individual freedom positions). Bob Barr used to support the Drug War in Congress. So I won"t be voting for Bob Barr if he is the LP nominee (I hope not).
I would never vote for a Democrat or Republican, or anyone else that wants to give the government more money and power. I don"t like government boot-lickers and State authority suck-ups.
Bob Barr has changed his viewpoint and his issues quite a bit since the Reagan days, including in regards to the War on Drugs. I consider him a solid Libertarian and definitely not someone who wants to give more money and power to the federal government.
>> I don"t like government boot-lickers and State authority suck-ups.
You must be a very lonely person. ;)
I thought that all the quasi-libertarian loons were still supporting Ron Paul. To hear them talk about it, it's almost like he were still in the race.
Ron Paul IS still in the race.
Q: If Bob Barr could win them, who's vote would John McCain have left?
A: Zell Miller.
On, I wouldn't be too sure that Barr couldn't pick up Zell!
Nope, Zell is no libertarian. He believes that government should be able to push people around.
It would depend on which side of the "spitball" issue Barr comes down on. Zell wouldn't give his vote to just anybody!
Sorry to spoil the party...but it's a little too late for the Reublicans to fall in love with Bob Barr. And he's in reality a snake in the grass for most of what most of us value.
>> ...he's in reality a snake in the grass for most of what most of us value.
What is it that you value? Torture?
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2008/0801.barr.html
Chris, yo Chris, what the hell are you smoking.
Bob Barr is batty as a belfry.
If one were to vote for a republican the only republican who would be worthy is Ron Paul.
Chris, old chap, you got to get a grip on reality, you are starting to sound like Hillary and Bill.
Geeze mate get a grip
I think Chris is just having some fun here. It's an amusing subject which doesn't give the Barack and Hillary camps anything to snipe at each other about. Kinda refreshing!
You have forgotton one very important group of Bob Barr's life !!
The strippers who have stepped-up to have whipped cream sprayed onto, and then licked off of their bodies by Congressman Barr !
Does this story end with Cherry on top?
Actually, I think it ends with a Cheney on top.
Ewww.... groooooooss.
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