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Indiana Superintendents Say More Expulsions Will Defend Student Rights

Posted: 02/22/2012 2:18 pm

The general assembly in Indiana is considering a bill, HB 1169, that would extend the ability of administrators to punish student off-campus speech. As Student Press Law Center executive director (and my boss) Frank LoMonte summarized on the SPLC's blog:

House Bill 1169, pushed by the special-interest lobbyists for school administrators, would unleash school principals to control essentially anything their students do -- anytime, anywhere -- that they disapprove of.

The bill, sponsored by Rep. Eric Koch, R-Bedford, would let public schools suspend or expel students who do or say anything that may "reasonably be considered to be an interference with school purposes or an educational function," even on a Saturday at the shopping mall.

You can read more about the Student Press Law Center's take on this bill there, but as you can imagine, we're not really thrilled with it, given that we encounter abuses of administrative authority pretty regularly. Besides, given how poorly Indiana schools deal with in-school bullying, the idea that they want to police outside-of-school bullying is laughable.

But that's not what this blog is about. I want to call special attention to the statements made by John Ellis, the executive director of the Indiana Association of Public School Superintendents. In short, the lobbying group that never met a superintendent it couldn't defend.

On Tuesday, Ellis was quoted in the Indiana Economic Digest touting this bill as... defending the rights of students. The same quote later appeared in the Indiana Daily Student.

"Because many threats and intimidating behaviors are now passed through technological means, the current student discipline statutes which speak to 'unlawful' activity are outdated," Ellis said. "This bill stands up for student rights regardless of where the violation of student conduct rules originated."

Of all the dishonest things I've heard lobbyists say, this one may take the cake. Asserting that a bill extending state authority to punish students with no limits whatsoever is a victory for student rights bends reality to the breaking point.

First of all, you don't stand up for student rights by punishing them. The bill has two remedies: suspension and expulsion. It doesn't even contemplate education, working with parents or the community, or any other remedy. To assert that a bill that subjects students to additional disciplinary action defends their rights is asinine. If this is a student rights bill, then the PATRIOT Act was a privacy protection law.

And the idea that expulsion will remedy cyberbullying is stupid, even for a superintendent. Your solution to students being mean on the computer is to send them home to their computer. Where they'll have more time online and they're angry because they got punished. Yeah, I'm sure that'll work out fine. It's not like bullies ever take out their anger on someone else or anything.

Second, students already have people who are supposed to be in charge of what they do at home. They're called parents, and they're far more competent to do that job than your superintendents, who have spent the last hundred years twiddling their thumbs while jocks shoved nerds in the bathroom. Now, in 2012, apparently these same bullying enablers have developed an overriding concern with what students do in their bedrooms. If, for some reason, I thought parents needed government employees to oversee what their kids do at home, I'd pick someone with a better track record.

This bill has no provision whatsoever for involving parents in this process except to tell them when their child is being disciplined. Is that really the first a parent should hear about cyberbullying? If this bill was remotely about the rights of students, and not giving superintendents the right to do anything they feel like anytime they feel like it, wouldn't that have been a useful component to consider?

Third, if you want to defend this regressive, anti-student, anti-parent, anti-education, absurd overreach of the nanny state, you might want to come with some metrics to support the idea that this won't be abused. I noticed in the hearing that you had no idea how many students are expelled statewide, or how many of those expulsions are successfully appealed, if any. You've done so well in creating this system where superintendents are immune from any kind of accountability that you don't even bother identifying if any superintendent, anywhere in Indiana, has ever made a mistake. And you want to increase the reach of that unchecked authority, which shouldn't even exist in the school building, into the living rooms of the families of Indiana.

Hey, I've got an idea: let's pass a bill letting us send superintendents who interfere with the rights of parents on a slow boat to a communist country where they'll feel more comfortable. I'll call it the Defending Superintendents Rights Bill. What do you think?

 

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The general assembly in Indiana is considering a bill, HB 1169, that would extend the ability of administrators to punish student off-campus speech. As Student Press Law Center executive director (and...
The general assembly in Indiana is considering a bill, HB 1169, that would extend the ability of administrators to punish student off-campus speech. As Student Press Law Center executive director (and...
 
 
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Kalie
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10:37 AM on 02/23/2012
I am starting to see schools want to "punish" the students more and more these days. Our fifth grade is punishing students by lowering their grade, 50% for each day a student turns a paper/project in late. They are trying to "show" the students how it will be in middle school. I think this is punitive, results in improper grades that do not reflect academic ability, and is not in the best interests of the students. Also, it is only at one of the several elementary schools in the district. Do you think this is fair?
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Adam Goldstein
Attorney, Student Press Law Center
02:04 PM on 02/23/2012
I think a fifth grader has shockingly little autonomy over his or her time. If a ten-year-old isn't doing homework, nothing you can do from a disciplinary or grading standpoint is going to change that. Plus, it shows a shocking degree of indifference and a lack of creativity in problem-solving. A parent who isn't helping a kid with homework doesn't care if the kid fails in the first place, and punishing the kid more for a rough home life isn't going to help.

I also think there's this casual attitude of experimentation in schools that ends up with some students having their entire educational experience in a petri dish designed to prove some quack theory about education that, most of the time, turns out to be bunk. That's partially why four out of five charter schools underperform public schools. This isn't to say we shouldn't be innovating; it's to say we apply untested theories in limited times and in limited ways so that we don't subject any students to an educational experience so deviant from the norm that, if it doesn't work out, they fall miserably far behind their peers.
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Adam Goldstein
Attorney, Student Press Law Center
02:13 PM on 02/23/2012
And that's another disconnect between what school administrator lobbyists say and what they mean. When they're lobbying for more unchecked, unaccountable authority, they talk about how they want to do the best for every child. The exact opposite seems to be guiding their policies; they want to have the best outcomes in the future, maybe, but are more than happy to turn entire buildings of students into lab rats to test what they think might work. And I think that's unconscionable. Students are not poker chips to gamble with.

Again, I fully support progressive educational theories. I think you apply those theories in the same way the SAT tests new sections: you give a student five graded sections and one section that's experimental. The stakes of a student getting through high school while having a wonky understanding of a single subject because the class was testing a new theory is much lower than something like randomly deciding one school building is going to have this asinine policy that encourages ten-year-olds to give up on their homework if they can't finish it on time.
06:58 PM on 02/22/2012
Perfect pitch! Wonder if the parents of the victims ever will be told that their child was cyber bullied? My experience says they won't be told, and you're right that the parents of the bully won't be told until it's too late for anything but punishment.

What are these lobbyists thinking? It can't be "the best interests of students," which is something we seldom hear at the superintendent level. They seem to be obsessed with raw power.
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Adam Goldstein
Attorney, Student Press Law Center
09:27 PM on 02/22/2012
When the bill was first heard in the general assembly, one of the things that people pointed out was that Indiana already has a cyberbullying law. Thus, cyberbullying is already unlawful, and therefore can be punished with suspension and expulsion. At this point the lobbyists changed their tune to say, well, yes, but then students could insult principals and superintendents outside of school without consequences. To which I have to say, one, who cares? Two, they're public employees and if you want to tell a public employee they're a jerk, you have a right to do that. And three, the en banc Third Circuit just upheld the right to ridicule your principal online in the J.S. and Layshock cases.

So when it's time to lobby for more power, they sing a song of cyberbullying, but when push comes to shove, what they really want is to squelch criticism by anyone who actually knows what goes on inside a school building.
10:50 PM on 02/22/2012
We're trying to level the playing field in Gilbert, AZ by shining a light on how the system works against students and the teachers who love those elementary school students. Your position is powerful -- continue the food work for the sake of our kids!
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02:05 PM on 02/23/2012
Spot on. I have been saying that this is an effort from those in power to avert things they don't like which come from anyone, anywhere, anytime. I believe the catalyst is the internet and social networking. Back in the day, people could say or write things about school officials, and for the most part everybody understood the boundaries and life went on. Now, the nature of putting things on the internet has led people to think that the boundaries have changed, when in reality this is a perception only.

The properties and realities of the internet have not actually changed the legal situation, nor the jurisdiction of school officials. Thank you for doing what you can to persevere against this.