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When LGBT Supporters Get It Wrong

Posted: 08/12/11 01:13 PM ET

Last year I wrote a book entitled, When Christians Get it Wrong, confessing, among other things, that Christians often get it wrong in how they speak about homosexuality. Today it was not Christians but the supporters of LGBT persons, at least one particular group, that I think got it wrong.

Willow Creek Community Church in the Chicago area annually sponsors a Leadership Summit that brings together outstanding voices in leadership from the academy, the public and private sector and the church. Speakers have included luminaries like U2's Bono, former President Jimmy Carter, and former British Prime Minister Tony Blair.

This year a group called change.org started a petition drive to protest Starbucks' CEO Howard Schultz' plans to speak on leadership at the event. Willow Creek was described as having a "long history of anti-gay persecution" on the change.org website. 766 people signed the petition and Mr. Schultz chose not to speak. This would seem, at first glance, to be a victory for change.org and for the LGBT cause.

Here, however, this particular group of LGBT supporters got it wrong. The question change.org and others might want to ask is, how do we positively influence people who see the world differently than we do? Petitioning Howard Schultz to not speak, characterizing Willow Creek as persecuting LGBT's (Willow is arguably the most influential church in the U.S. and one that is far more moderate than many evangelical churches) and then succeeding at seeing Schultz back out of speaking at the conference will serve to further alienate moderate evangelicals and actually hurt the LGBT cause.

There are some 160,000 leaders from as many as 40,000 churches (representing millions of Christians around the world) who will be present at the Willow Creek event. Rather than influencing these pastors and leaders towards greater understanding and compassion, change.org has created greater misunderstanding and alienation. Rather than building bridges it has created walls.

There are many different voices within Christianity when it comes to homosexuality. Some Christians see the biblical teaching on homosexuality as reflecting the culture and times in which the Bible was written and not reflecting God's eternal perspective on homosexual people. Others believe these scriptures represent God's timeless will for how human beings practice intimacy. Some of the latter are militant in their anti-homosexual position. But most thoughtful evangelical pastors struggle with the tension between their desire to welcome and and love all people and their desire to be faithful to the scriptures regarding sexuality as they understand them. Willow Creek is among the latter and their pastor, Bill Hybels, from my perspective, is someone who has sought to welcome and love gay and lesbian people while holding to traditional understandings of these biblical texts.

I believe change.org's petition mischaracterized Willow Creek and ultimately negatively impacted the cause they seek to support.

 
 
 

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Stephen Stafford
Be the answer to somebody's prayer!
02:06 PM on 08/19/2011
I have been involved in church all my life. Everyone is welcome at church, scoundrel or not, both saved and unsaved. Period.

Worship services are not about you and your issues. The focus is on God. Conferences and events have themes, and the focus is on the theme or stated interest or group. For a minute, one's stance or lack of it or musings about these issues may be useful or interesting. They do not define what the deal is about.

Everybody at the church is involved in a process of growth. The agreement is around worshiping God and serving God and others together. One's sex thing, whatever that may be, just does not run much in the grand scheme of things.

It is about God. In God's presence, all else bows down and falls away. Everything else is just not that deep.

Practically speaking, nobody cares what the whooping and hollering is about. Come and worship. Join in and serve. That is what the church is all about.

Schultz may have had some other agendas going. He is now engaged in his own pressure tactics. He is wrong again, and is within his rights to make wrong choices.

That church is not hateful as alleged. All who want to worship and serve are welcome. Those interested in making a spectacle can show up as well. That is what we do, and we are open to all.
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gloriaswanson43
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12:54 PM on 08/16/2011
"But most thoughtful evangelical pastors struggle with the tension between their desire to welcome and and love all people and their desire to be faithful to the scriptures regarding sexuality as they understand them. Willow Creek is among the latter and their pastor, Bill Hybels, from my perspective, is someone who has sought to welcome and love gay and lesbian people while holding to traditional understandings of these biblical texts."

I guess I'll have to ask and look up what their "traditional understandings" of the texts are before I can agree or disagree with the article.
08:58 AM on 08/16/2011
Nice article, Adam. HP is obviously a more liberal site, but the extremism and polarization in these comments is something we could do without. No one is going to erradicate all the Christians or all in the LGBT community, so why can't we all just get along? Let's attack philosophies and hatred that alienate us and try to find middle ground, and to seek understanding. Unfortunately, I think this is overly idealistic for the internet and mass media, but this is something I try to do in my everyday life, as a Christian and LGBT ally.
03:42 PM on 08/15/2011
I disagree with your concluding statement, Mr. Hamilton. There's no "mischaracterizing" a church that had a 20-year relationsh­ip with Exodus Internatio­nal. How is EI in ANY way "supportive" of gay human beings? Their raison d'etre is to tell gay people not only that they CAN be changed/cured/healed, but also that they SHOULD change.
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Stephen Stafford
Be the answer to somebody's prayer!
01:34 PM on 08/19/2011
Because it is not about Exodus International. Churches affiliate and do things with all kinds of people and organizations. The church was mischaracterized.

By the way, our specialty as a Christian community is reaching out and inviting in the lost, wayward, despicable, unloved and unwanted. Hopefully you will always see churches get in with those you do not like. That is the business they are in.
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Atwill
Proud Father of a gay son.
01:46 PM on 08/19/2011
But in your church, if a gay person went there, after saying Welcome" would you tell them their "Gay lifestyle" is a sin?
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scooter1
Bias is irrelevant to truth
11:03 AM on 08/14/2011
It's not clear as to what you think change.org "got wrong." Is Willow Creek anti-gay, as it were? Yes. So they were right in that regard. Did their protest help their cause? Yes. Stopping some guy from speaking at one of Willow's leadership conferences is not going to change the sociopathic behavior of Christians at Willow. However, the change will come, despite the oppression of Christians in much the same way the view of Viet Nam was shaped by anti-war protesters. Basically, you're wrong, Mr. Hamilton. Social change comes from exactly the types of demonstrations change.org is conducting. It's not meant to "build bridges" with Christians. It's meant to stomp out their oppressive ways. Change doesn't come from passivity.
09:41 AM on 08/14/2011
The biggest error made by supporters of any cause is to go as extreme as the extremists against whom you fight.
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LintLass
"When you can balance a tackhammer on your head...
04:15 PM on 08/14/2011
Which is not at all what this is... Even if someone wants it to seem so.
09:25 AM on 08/14/2011
Mr. Hamilton - by definition, any position based on the Bible or any other religious text is irrational - that is, it is based on faith alone and has no possibility of proof, and therefore is irrational.

Those on the extremes embrace and accept this truth - they realize that their beliefs are simply the word of an unprovable God.

Moderates on the other hand, try to have it both ways. They root their assumptions in these irrational beliefs, but don't want to admit that they do. They try to "justify" this irrationality through "rational" precepts.

And therein lies the danger - they are wolves in sheep's clothing. Far from being the obvious wild-eyed faith-driven bigots, they give cover to those who wish to discriminate, but seem reasonable. If anything, these people are far more dangerous than the truthful (but hateful) who know their beliefs are just that - beliefs.

If anything, these are the very people who must be condemned, highlighted, and even refused a platform to stop spreading hate in the name of supposed rational, moderate thinking.
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01:08 AM on 08/14/2011
Adam Hamilton is the founder and leader of the largest Methodist church in America with 14,000 members. If he were to embrace God's gay and lesbian children his empire would be threatened. Jesus welcomes all who are outcast as "unclean" into his church. He calls people like Adam Hamilton vipers for not doing so.
06:01 PM on 08/14/2011
You are wrong. It is obviously that you have not read any of his books.

Rev. Hamilton has embraced gays in his church. As a result, he has both lost and gained members. He lost the daughter of someone I know.

Several years of his sermons are on the church web site. He addresses many issues that many Methodist pastors avoid, such as accepting people of other religions.
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pseudonymXXVI
I (Respectfully) Disagree
12:11 AM on 08/14/2011
Here's a novel idea. Why not we just stop making false claims about people's identity? You can't completely judge a person or a group based on a single characteristic you know about them. Let's stop making false assumptions and hateful statements. Let's just do the right thing and accept everyone for who they are*, and not who they hang with and what they think. Let's not make hateful judgements based on a single adjective, or group together disparate peoples because we have an inherent hatred of "their kind". We are all individual, thinking, rational human beings. Let's start acting like it.
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Brian Berneker
I have an opinion and I'm not afraid to state it!
11:11 AM on 08/15/2011
Then wouldn't the same logic apply to the judgements being made against a church or christians in general?
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pseudonymXXVI
I (Respectfully) Disagree
06:32 PM on 08/15/2011
Of course. That's actually what I had in mind when I starting writing, and by the time I finished I realized that it could work both ways. Tolerance is a two-way street.
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pseudonymXXVI
I (Respectfully) Disagree
12:02 AM on 08/14/2011
That… that makes perfect sense. Excellent analysis, Mr. Hamilton. The LGBT community, not unlike its religious adversaries, does indeed make mistakes from time to time.
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Atwill
Proud Father of a gay son.
10:49 PM on 08/13/2011
It is wonderful when a church is accepting of gays and understands that the Bible doesnt always speak for the year 2011. In fact, most of the Bible is grossly outdated. And much of it is pure fantasy. Some good lessons, true, but then many works of fiction have good lessons.
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Ioan Lightoller
Proud Married Gay Pagan Man
11:13 PM on 08/13/2011
Amen to that, Atwill. I always counsel GLBT people who wish to keep their connection to Christianity to consider either the Metropolitan Community Church or one of the accepting and affirming churches. It is so sad that so many are shunned and badly treated by the churches of which they are members.
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Atwill
Proud Father of a gay son.
08:52 AM on 08/14/2011
Churches that preach agaisnt gays are not churches. They are the haven for the devil.
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lynzyluhu
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10:15 PM on 08/13/2011
One principle that people seem to forget is that people CAN change. I used to think I "knew" what I believed in, but in a few years I went from devout Texas Republican, sueded by her family and upbringing to a very, very liberal attitude and very involved with LGBT rights among other things.

I don't know all the details, but maybe this guy Howard Schultz had a change of heart and could have made an impression on some close-minded people. I think instead of being this side versus that side, we should try to make that side understand and appreciate this side's point of view.
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bacaja
08:37 PM on 08/13/2011
We're all Americans FIRST and we will pull together to maintain our quality of life and we will not let the SNAKES destroy it!
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iyalode5
expatriot extraordinaire
09:55 PM on 08/13/2011
I can only wonder what you mean by your comment.
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Ioan Lightoller
Proud Married Gay Pagan Man
11:20 PM on 08/13/2011
Yes, please do clarify what you meant by your statement. If you mean that you accept that all people have rights and that those who would limit the rights of law-abiding citizens must be resisted, I am with you 100%.
08:26 PM on 08/13/2011
How did change.org mischaracterize Willow Creek? You stated prior to that in your article that the pastor of Willow Creek" holds traditional understandings of these biblical texts." That is pretty clear to me how he feels about homosexuality.
Being homosexual harms no one.
Maybe if everyone followed the Golden Rule-pastors included-the world would be a better place.
Sometimes protesting in a nonviolent way such as this is the start of change.
I think you got this one wrong, Mr. Hamilton.
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Ioan Lightoller
Proud Married Gay Pagan Man
11:24 PM on 08/13/2011
Fanned and faved. "Being homosexual harms no one". This is what is so sad about all the fundamentalist hate and the efforts to keep us second-class citizens. How have GLBT people ever harmed these others? How would their right to legally marry affect the lives of those who seek to limit/deny them rights? None of them have ever answered that question to the satisfaction of myself and many other GLBT people.
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WheelsOnFire
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09:39 AM on 08/14/2011
Well said.

What a great declarative sentence: Being homosexual harms no one.

Sums up this situation and many others brilliantly.

And you're quite right about the Golden Rule. Would be nice if more people -- and especially the religious right -- would follow it.

Fanned & Faved!
08:12 PM on 08/13/2011
"Rather than building bridges it has created walls"??? Seriously? Those walls weren't built by the LGBT community and Mr Schultz' presence at this event would have done NOTHING to erase the walls that the modern evangelical movement has erected with those that disagree with them.

The fact other "luminaries" have spoken at this event legitimizes the damage this church does to LGBT people. WC's position is you can be gay; you just can't BE gay. Sex is only for married people and since they only see marriage as between a man and a woman, any sex a gay person would have (even though you'd been in a committed, monogamous relationship for decades) would be a sin and not in line with their teachings and beliefs.

Mr. Hamilton's position is that the LGBT needs to accept the damage that the evangelical christian community has done. It doesnt work. Accepting the evangelical community positions, teaching, etc, it would not change the evangelical community's position. This "sit-down-and-take-it" position has been used against women, blacks, hispanics, Jews and other oppressed groups. Progress isn't made by accepting tyranny or oppression but by speaking out against it. Opinions are changed by being true to one's self.

Mr. Schultz's presence would not have changed anything. It wouldn't have advanced the cause or reversed the damage these gays-can-change groups have done. Hopefully, Mr. Schultz's actions will cause other "luminaries" to rethink associating with groups like this and legitimizing their actions.
03:04 PM on 08/15/2011
+ 1.

I hope Mr. Hamilton reads the line: "Those walls weren't built by the LGBT community and Mr Schultz' presence at this event would have done NOTHING to erase the walls that the modern evangelica­l movement has erected with those that disagree with them."

And I hope he takes "the damage that the evangelica­l christian community has done" seriously.