Let's face it, the Republicans love Hillary Clinton. They quietly in their heart of hearts pine for her to win the Democratic nomination. The Republican Governor of Florida is rolling out the red carpet for a second primary which will favor Clinton. Pat Buchanan can't be quiet about how much he respects Hillary. Even Ann Coulter pal and SNL sketch writer Jim Downey has written several sketches portraying Hillary as picked on by the press. Downey is one of the all time great sketch writers but I know he's no Hillary fan. Don't get me wrong, I like Hillary and still think Bill Clinton is one of our great presidents. But it's weird. Weird like....well, Pat Buchanan praising Hillary Clinton.
Now it's possible the corporate right wants her to win in order to keep afloat the huge economy of Hillary hate bumper stickers that if my numbers are correct generates over 55 billion dollars in revenue for the south.* They also could be supporting her because after over seven years of the absolute incompetence that is the Bush administration they finally get that corporate welfare and tax breaks for millionaires are not good for the economy. Or maybe they think she's Hilary Swank.
But more likely, in fact, screw it, for sure, they are backing her the way I root for Nenad Krstic to cover Keven Garnett so the Big Ticket can put up twenty and twenty on him.
And yes, it's sad that someone as capable as Hillary would be considered fodder for McCain, a "don't change horses in mid-stream, even when it takes that horse twelve years to cross that stream" kind of guy. Senator McCain just got the thumbs up from Bush. Isn't an endorsement from W like a job reference from that astronaut chick who lost it and wore diapers? Well, she is an astronaut and Bush is president.
The biggest upside of this whole thing is that SNL has clearly still got clout even in this day of a thousand channels and a billion internet sites. They influenced a primary for F's sake. That's big. Now I wrote for the show in the nineties and it's an incredible place that's actually as exciting as it seems like it would be. I've seen SNL have incredible political influence in a good way (Dennis Miller's line about Reagan: "It scares me when the finger nearest the button has a string tied around it.") and a bad way (Portraying Bush and Gore as equally buffoonish in their debates. Bush was an embarrassment and the sketch made people think they were in the same ballpark.). It's had its left wing writers like Al Franken and it's right-wing writers like Jim Downey, who also wrote those Bush-Gore debates sketches. Franken is now running for the Senate and Downey is spinning primaries.
There's no doubt our nation's comedic TV political coverage between SNL, the Daily Show and the Colbert Report is far better than the straight news. And though that's a pithy and tired observation, it's also stone cold, for better or for worse, true.
So put your bumper stickers on your cars Repubs: "Hillary in '08, Up Until November, and then McCain!" If you drive an Excursion it'll fit.
*My numbers were not correct.
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a tongue-in-cheek tribute to the disengenuous repubs. hmm. what a concept.
my customers in dallas texas are generally, very, very wealthy and 100% "for generations" (er, since the voting rights act of 1965) they've voted STRAIGHT REPUBLICAN. before the voting rights act, of course, they were MAD at republicans because they freed the slaves back in about 1860. they have a very long memory, these generations of republicans. back then, before they changed to republicans, we called them DIXIECRATS (remember them???) democrats in name only. anyhow, yesterday, they were all a very happy, smiling, cat-ate-the-canary lot, pleased that they'd "gotten those damned democrats". wonder why?
because they'd all gone out and, as instructed by their talk-radio heros, voted in the democratic primary for Ms. Clinton, which she won here by about 2 points. but they weren't willing to spend the time to vote in the caucuses. after all, they're rich and they usually send their household staff to do things like that.
which is why Obama won the caucuses in a landslide.
i'm so very proud that our wealthier customers shared the views of the bubbas in the country enough to go out and vote in the democratic primary for the sole purpose of having a candidate they think their REAL candidate can beat. ANYTHING to win an election seems to be a republican thing. too bad someone has to make sure the trains run on time, the bridges don't fall down, the currency remains strong and there's someone around to help when a force-5 hurricane renders an entire region (peopled largely by african-americans) unable to get off its knees.
how terribly patriotic of them. surely the party of goldwater lives on.
Your Republican friends missed an important point. Hilary is not easier to beat than Obama.
Hilary gets all the black vote PLUS the latino vote and the war lobby loves her and so does the insurance industry and wall street.
In voting for Hilary in Texas primary, Republicans put Hilary in the White House. Your friends had the choice of helping Obama land a knockout punch and go to the White House or give Hilary a comeback victory which probably gives her the nomination because she can now argue for getting Florida and Michigan back into the race and that will give her the nom easily.
Your friends just made a gigantic boo boo.
If you think screwing Barack Obama by changing the rules at the 11th hour will get all the black votes your dreaming. Without african americans there would be no viable democratic party. Democrats wouldnt win my state of PA without a 90-10 support like Gore got in 2000, coming out of Philadelphia, Think about dade county in florida how much that delivers for democrats. Hillary goes scorched earth on Obama and the democratic party is doomed.
Hillary won the primaries by 3.5 points, not 2 points. I understand your bitterness and bias, but stick to the facts.
Your chuckling customers were in the minority. Exit polling showed that Republicans in the Texas primary the other day voted heavily for Obama, following the much- and long-circulated explicit instructions that were passed around on right-ring blogsites in the last month.
.republica nsforobama .org/?q=no de/359
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And let's face it, when Hillary wins, Obama is still winning. And when HIllary loses, it is Hillary's death knell. The so-called columnists who write editorials for the Huffpo, write exclusively against Hillary.
When those of us got started with the Huffington Post blog, we were attracted to what we believed it was a space for all Democrats. As the days and months wear on, this space is intended for only one kind of Democrat. It's the Huffpo way.
That's because Hillary's a republican.
Exactly. Watch her name Lieberman as her VP or on the other side, join McCain's ticket.
"And let's face it, when Hillary wins, Obama is still winning. And when HIllary loses, it is Hillary's death knell."
Why do you describe the absolute truth, then get all huffy about it?
The math doesn't work for your candidate, and you want her elected based only on the highlight reel.
"The biggest upside of this whole thing is that SNL has clearly still got clout even in this day of a thousand channels and a billion internet sites."
Wow. That is such a big upside. I'm so happy about that. I hope SNL does a funny skit about the sub prime crisis next. I mean, come on, with the kind of clout they have a single parody about a bank foreclosing on someone's home would probably end the whole financial imbroglio. These guys are so insightful about our culture because they’re so popular. I can’t wait until they do something funny to end the war on terror.
The other big upside about SNL is success hasn't gone to their heads. They're just plain folks like you and me except they write political propaganda and pawn it off as sketch comedy.
Yeh, SNL finally had the balls to skewer the media for its blatant bias of pitching Obama and Clinton to beat each other to pulps. (To bad for Edwards who was alway just out of camera range and then they purposely never panning low enough to get Dennis.) The media coverage has sucked. I don't know who came off worse -- Hillary or Obama. But they are both letting the media lead their campaigns.
How about they trump the media and get together in secret and play "One Potatoe Two Potatoe" for
the Presidency and then come back and give the media nothing but sweet smiles, hugs and kisses
until the convention which can be a Democratic unity love fest!!!!!!! Together they could stomp the conservative movement into mash. Lets egg them to their inevitable union!!!!
Had me at: e Hillary!"
"Live from New York...Vot
Do you mean to say that that is all it takes to get someone to vote for Hillery? I'm afraid you may be right in some cases. Read Ariana's piece on lizard brains.
What I meant was, Adam McKay article should of stopped at "Live from New York...Vot e Hillary!" (I'm a Hillary supporter)
I did read Ariana's piece on Lizard Brains.
You can search for my comments if you like.
You name Pat Buchanan and Ann Coulter and refer to them as "all the Republican s." Neither of them are all the Republicans, or even representative Republicans. But since you are naming media names, let's name the real media names who will do what it takes to undermine Hillary and derail her candidacy: Chris Matthews, Tim Russert, Katie Couric, Larry King, Brian Williams, Arianna Huffington, David's Brooks and Schuster, Cokie Roberts, George Stepnaopolis, Oprah Winfrey etc etc. The list too so long, but is nearly exclusively comprised of McCain Republicans. If Arianna, a token Dem at best, can't succeed in derailing Clinton, it is almost certain she will vote for McCain.
It is articles like this one which begin with a false premise, and go on to weave a tall tale to fill the space, that characterize the Obama phenom. If Obama had what it took, then his cult wouldn't need to create false arguments. If Obama were viable, then it wouldn't take propaganda to sell his message.
Obama is selling himself by saying he is for change. Goof luck with that. The next President is going to face an unchangable system. What will Obama do when he finds out that he isn't Captain America?
Its AMAZING everyone who toots hillary's experience horn, when asked for details can't think of a single thing to say, that doesn't include a library or honor ceremony. sad sad sad.
These are the types of voters responsible for 8 yrs of GWB
But she has the best STORY. She was First Lady. She's a woman! She has Experience!
Just don't bother to ask them how being first lady makes someone a good president, how being a woman does so, or what her experience is other than breathing since college (35 years of breathing!)
You're right, they're as shallow as Bush Republicans.
Hillary would skin a cat and wear it as a hat to win. Her ambition is as transparent as not noticing Bill was getting blown by the fat intern who saved his fluids as a keepsake. One could argue she was a victim if there hadn't been the eighteen public accusations of near rape in the previous eight years to make you wonder when she was actually going to stand up for women. I think eventually, however, she would make a great statement for gay rights and encourage her to come out once she has grabbed as much power as is humanly possible regardless of who gets hurt. Eleanor Roosevelt would be proud to be the second lesbian to help her husband to a third term.
What's wrong with ambition? Why isn't she allowed to work towards being President? She has been putting in the time and effort, so why so much hatred?
If your going to skewer Hillary, you should include Barrack in the same sentence. The only reason Barrack ran for the Senate was so he could run for President. Then, after becoming a Senator, he hasn't done ANYTHING. How about that sub-committee he is on, how much has he gotten done? Once again, NOTHING.
The Republican trolls are flooding this thread to ensure Clinton is the nominee. And they know she will lose with a criminal case against her and Bill coming up in Los Angeles Court With conclusie evidence on several videos with the Clintons' conversations with Peter Paul who donated $1.8 million the Hillary's Senaorial and presidential campaigns that they did not report and denied ever even knowing Peter Paul. This jury trial is about a felony which canm destroy Hillary's career and cause her to liose the general election.S o now you know why so many republicans and the MSM are giving Hillary so much prime airtime to help her win the nomination so they can defeat her in the general election. and many wit nesses to corroborate the Clintons fraud in violating the law governing political donation It is a $17 million dollar criminal suit scheduled for September, just a month before the general election which the McCain people will use to destroy Hillary's credibility. Why the MSM is not carrying this crucial November surprise is obvious.
Hillary is practicing the politics of Party destruction. Most of us Democrats know she will lose in November if she is the candidate, but she would rather be the candidate and lose rather than bow out and maybe give the party a win. We also know that the numerous newly-registered Democrats will not vote for her. Here is a case where the power is more important to the candidate than the country. I am a 72-year old female who has waited for a lifetime for a female to run. Not this candidate. If a female is going to run, she has to act like a candidate, not a whining female blaming the press. Anyway, she has certainly put enough fodder out there for the other party to feed on. That is precisely why more females are not in office, they pull this gender bias and get all the women riled up without even knowing why. Read the article on Howard Dean and you will understand why is did not cast my vote, nor will I ever, for Hillary Clinton.
Amen, republicans need Hillary to solidify the conservative base and Hillary would be just what the doctor ordered. I knew Jim Downey, the political writer for SNL was a conservative from reading Tom Shales book. I saw Hillary got 8% of her vote from republicans, so Rush Limbaugh and Laura Ingraham telling their conservative voters to cross over and vote for Hillary which made a huge difference. To think we could of coalesced around Obama and been ready to fight McCain. Instead were going to go on for months and waste tens of millions of dollars.
Hillary and Bill will do anything to get the top prize,they will tear apart the Democratic party if it means getting this nomination. They don't care about anyone but themselves, poor Hillary acting like she is getting picked on by the press ,if she can't take it now, what would she do if she becomes President? As far as experience goes just because you slept next to a ex- president when he wasn't out sleeping with someone else for eight years means nothing. She can't even name one foriegn crisis she went thru because as first lady she had no say so on what went on in foriegn matters . She claims 35 years of experience , i never even heard of Hillary 35 years ago, if Hillary happen to get this nomination by using the Clinton dirty tricks handbook i sure will not vote for her for President. I wont vote for status quo John McCain either , i will sit this one out due to nothing will change if either ones elected.
maybe you should get you ears cleaned or learn how to read-35 years ago Hillary was in south texas, registering latino voters for McGovern in south texas-Do you remember McGovern or were you snoozing
We didn't care.....a nd still don't
I'm sure you knew she was down in TEXAS 35 years ago without her mentioning it every other day. I never heard McGovern mention her one time well he was running for President. If i'm looking for honesty i sure won't look for the Clinton's to supply it. She has done nothing in her life that makes me want to vote for her, i did vote for for her husband twice, but her being married to him means nothing to me.
Obama supporters are not blindly following a man, they are following a vision, and that vision is possible for America, unless the dinosaurs that support the Hillary cult somehow force the Dems to concede to the past.
if you keep following that VISON you'll bump into the rear of that dinosaur, or become like him-extinct-a vision is something you get on LSD
19 y.o. Hillary supporter right here. Hillary has support that cuts across demographic lines, just like Obama. She wouldn't have won all the big states she has otherwise. I wish the Obamaniacs would just keep an open-mind towards Hillary, she has done so much good for this country and the Democratic Party.
And Hillary supporters are not a cult. We are very open-minded and are just impressed by Sen. Clintons poise and reasoned solutions for America. We are also very down to earth and not blown away by Obama's airy rhetoric and lack of real political experience.
Please enlighten me on hillary's find works for the country... ......
AMEN, JTH252.... .......... WE ARE OPEN MINDED AND SEE JUST WHOM IS THE BEST CANDIDATE, AWARE OF THE "CELEBRITY OF OBAMA" LIKE A ROCK STAR WITH THE YOUNG FOLLOWING AS USUAL W/O COMPREHENEDING THE CONSEQUENCES.
I'm not sure about the "open-minded" part. You may also want to look at "understanding that Hillary can't win" argument.
So much good for the party??? I realize your only 19 but after she botched the healthcare initiative in 1994 and 54 DEMOCRATIC house members got swept out of office in a republican landslide, we also lost the senate. She has long history of screwing the democratic party.
Yes. But it is not a "cult" as much as it is a machine. The Clintons have had control of the Democratic machine for many years. It shows. Oh boy, it shows. I see what you mean by cult though when it comes to ordinary people who think the Clintons are on their side when time and again they always bow to corporate interests. Because, don't you know, "Corporate interests are your interests".
Oh, "the vision thing". Oh yeah and "Big Mo". I think I heard those before from George H. W. Bush, the older Bush aka "Poppy". Horrible to see them come back around. Everything old is new again.
How much of a coincidence is it that SNL is promoting Hillary (the best hope of the GOP) and the fact that Lorne Michaels, the owner and producer of SNL, and his wife both gave campaign contributions in the maximium amounts to John McCain?
Look, i am what is called a "yellow dog Democrat", which means i vote for the Dem every time. But... and as Pee Wee used to say, "everyone has a big but", i must take issue about Bill Clinton being a "great President". Yikes. I had such faith in him and he disappointed at every turn.
Lest we forget: He and his wife were so thoroughly middlebrow that they turned into star struck suckers for big money and big names. They sold our children down the river for the sake of NAFTA. The welfare reform was cruel and wrong-headed. Certain populations are still not over it. He did not reform drug laws which means we still have the highest population of prisoners in the world.
Yes, he did some "good things" compared to the current facsist regime, but "great president"? He was as undiciplined as Taft or Harding. He was well-meaning, but when push came to shove, things were always more interesting in the oval office kitchen (no video). Yuck.
Gobama. I will vote for H. Clinton, but till it comes to that, i will speak truth to my friends. Obama has the potential to be the most left president since F.D.R. and it is scaring the pants off of the rich. "Don't you want a Clinton back? Were not those good times?" As if. As if the Presidency had a thing to do with the dot com run up. Please.
Of course, the Republican Right wants Hillary to win. They're even more sexist than they are racist, and they've had a lot more time to smear Hillary--they've had a regular HATE HILLARY campaign on since her husband was in the White House--so they think they can beat her. Even if there weren't two GOOD Democratic candidates up these time, I'd vote for whoever wins. The biggest danger we face is letting the left-middle of the road be split by this campaign and lose voters over it in the presidential campaign (as it's said that Humphrey's winning the nomination back in '68 led to McGovern & Kennedy supporters not voting--thus throwing the election to Nixon). GO YELLOW DOG DEMOCRATS!!!
funny how people & propaganda forget this:
back in 93- the week of the first clinton inaugural- snl's wayne's world
told a nasty chelsea is ugly joke.
later i saw a snl rerun with this joke cut out. it took years to find out why.
turns out the clintons complained to nbc & lorne michaels & the boys- wayne & garth- mike myers & the other guy who is a repub-
had to write a letter of apology to the white house!
you'd think this was relevant today but no- our deciders have decided decidedly to decide
that ignorance rules.
a few years ago a book on snl by tom shales & some repub senate staffer neglected to mention this-
sex drugs & rock n roll was the blurb- but they did call bill c. a "spoil sport" for not appearing on snl like
ford & bush pere. hey the joke's on him.
this is how censorship & propaganda work-
remember- snl means john belushi & drugs.
as for beating up on a teenage girl, the president's daughter?? hey thats cool,
dude.
Hahaha, good stuff - funny, alas, because all too true.
first off
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