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(As author and sole owner of the words in this story, I did not write them for AOL, and do not wish to have any association with it imposed upon me. The original text may still be found at http://narconews.com/thefield - Al Giordano, February 7, 2011)

 

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02:54 PM on 07/24/2009
I've noticed that the "tolerant" on the left always personally and viciously attack their own if they in any way challenge the vertically aligned core belief system. If you don't accept the core of the liberal platform to a tolerable degree, then you must be immediately destroyed on a personal level. Forget debating the ideas or questioning the foundations of them. Just go direct to personal destruction so there is no one left to field the 'contaminating' ideas. Reminds me of Logan's Run sometimes. Run, Lanny, run!!!! Your former friends are out to get you now, don't go to Carousel!
12:43 PM on 07/24/2009
Please back up these claims -

"where the coup plotters deposit so many of the dollars that they've looted from the majority of Hondurans,"

That a), there was, in fact a coup, rather than a legal action. Please cite the Honduran constitution.

"Diplomacy is for dealing with legitimate governments, not for criminals and terrorists.

That b), the interim government is composed of "criminals and terrorists". Please cite evidence, arrest records, etc.
12:34 PM on 07/24/2009
Let me see if I get this 'logic' straight.

Lanny Davis isn't good at predicting the future. Therefore he is "always wrong". Since he is "always wrong", he is not capable of being right with respect to current or past events.

Let's see. Who else is bad at predicting the future? Barack Obama. Hillary Clinton. Joe Biden. Bad at predicting the economy, stimulus success, jobless rates, their own security policies once elected, his own political popularity even within their own party, etc, etc, etc.

Maybe we need to do the OPPOSITE of what our current government says since they seem to be getting everything so incredibly wrong and, like Lanny Davis, are so terribly bad at predicting the future.
07:22 PM on 07/15/2009
I like lani. he makes sense. Especially for those of us who understand Central America and what is really happening in their struggle against Chavez.

Show me a coup please.
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cplKlyde
11:10 AM on 07/15/2009
Oh Al you expect this moderate centerist status quo administration to come down on a far coup. You're so funny.
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10:58 AM on 07/15/2009
How can ANYONE forget Lanny Davis, who was on TV night after night defending Bill Clinton over his extramarital affair with Monica Lewinsky, and the scandal that insued? Of course, he would not side with Obama on anything, since he is one of the biggest Clinton shills that ever existed!!! Bill Clinton's ego, it has been said, has not healed from Obama's win, and Hillary is not done yet. Davis has no interest in making Obama look good! The Clintons own him!!!!!
10:24 AM on 07/15/2009
The bulk of IRI’s programming in Honduras is concentrated on helping city governments better serve their citizens. Our program and record is very clear and transparent there. We encourage those who are interested to learn more about our governance programming at: http://www.iri.org/lac/cen_good_gov.asp. The other aspect to our program in Honduras seeks to help encourage political parties and civil society focus on substantive issues such as healthcare, roads, education and economic development. IRI stands by that work as well.
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11:36 AM on 07/15/2009
I'll reply by pasting in my brief reply to an unidentified "IRI spokesperson" (it's pretty weird that the spokesperson for an organization chooses to post anonymously, by the way: doesn't really succeed when one is also claiming "transparency"!):

it seems to me your own provided link rebukes your claim that "IRI does not fund any groups in Honduras." I followed those links and found that it funds, for example, the foreign travels of La Paz mayor Danilo Cervantes, a member of the Nationalist Party of Honduras, one of the parties that back the coup d'etat. (It was the Nationalist Party candidate for president Porfirio Lobo Sosa, who ran against Zelaya in the last presidential election and will reportedly try again for that post this year.)

That constitutes support for a political party, whether the money is channeled through a municipal government controlled by it or not doesn't change that IRI funds (that is to say, US taxpayer funds) are bolstering the coup.

Perhaps the functionaries at IRI don't see it that way, but the people of Honduras and the world clearly will. Any further use by IRI to fund such projects should be prohibited by NED as part of the sanctions until the coup regime falls.
07:24 PM on 07/15/2009
I wish you had some idea of Central America besides your love of leftwing autocrats..........(see Chavez)

What a joke.
07:30 AM on 07/15/2009
This is a South American problem- lets call in the UN to solve it.
12:15 PM on 07/15/2009
How is this a South American problem when the finger prints and boot prints of the US are all over it, going back decades, let alone this current coup? Using private organizations to which millions of tax payer funds have been diverted, to do the dirty work doesn't change that. What you're suggesting takes no account of the years and billions upon billions of dollars the corporate sector has and is sucking out the country.

The reality is the people of Honduras are being deprived of the very resources on which they depend for a lively hood. There has to be a better and more equitable way for the US to do business around the globe.

The invasion of Iraq and the rationale behind it is precisely the same as in Honduras and countless other countries across the planet. Nobody who keeps themselves even moderately informed can still claim there was any other reason to occupy Iraq, other than for it's oil.

Consider the havoc and devastation of infrastructure and social services...the lives of millions of people have been ruined, hundreds of thousands killed, even more maimed and disabled and millions displaced and exiled into refuge status for years. Does that sound like it's just?

There has to be a better way of doing business than toppling regimes who won't give their resources away and installing despots happy to sell their people out. And make no mistake, this is exactly what the Honduran coup is all about.
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02:44 AM on 07/15/2009
So what's up with the Clinton advisors and lobbyists hanging out with the coupsters? Obviously, it's a clear indication of Washington's support for the coup regime in Honduras, despite the rhetoric we heard last week "condemning the coup". The real actions show just the opposite: clear, undivided support for Micheletti and a definite rejection of President Zelaya's return to the presidency in Honduras.

Ratcliff's conditions for the negotiation -- approved by secretary of state Clinton -- included the following five main terms:

1. Zelaya can return to the presidency, but not to power. The presidency and the exercise of power are two different things.

2. Zelaya must not pursue any plans to reform the constitution or promote polls or referendums that give voice to the people.

3. Zelaya must distance himself substantially from President Chávez. "This is essential", they said.

4. Zelaya must share governance with the Congress and those in the coup regime until the elections in November.

5. Zelaya must give amnesty to all those involved in the coup.

Well, there you have it! Obama's first coup and Hillary's first use of "smart power" to achieve the ouster of a left-leaning president that was further opening the doors of Central America to Latin American integration and sovereignty. There is no doubt that this coup has been executed to cease the expansion of socialism and Latin American independence in the region.

http://links.org.au/node/1147
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09:07 AM on 07/15/2009
Eva is translating the second half of the article with more specific info. on US complicity in the coup in Honduras. Should be posted soon.

See http://www.chavezcode.com/
07:29 PM on 07/15/2009
Thank God for smart pols in Washington!!

I tip my hat for Obama.

Somebody who actually knows what is happening with far left dictators in the hemisphere.
02:19 AM on 07/15/2009
The reason the world is where it is today is because of the last 1000 years of European, American, and Russian colonialism throughout the poorer peoples, and nations-- Everything that is being done now ( including foreign aid) is damage control to stop the 3rd world from rising and taking revenge: The Mid-East---China-- to some extent Africa, South America, etc. And most Americans are still in the dream-time when America saved the world from Hitler and Stalin--so they think the world should simply heed our clear? vision of the future, or by god desperately wish they did. How can we claim any superiority-- (coups, Korea, Viet Nam, Iraq, Afganistan, ect.) especially when America itself stopped regulating our own Corporate Crusaders; the result was Enron,Worldcom, Subprime mortgages, and Bernie Madoff!!! The G-8 are simply reaping what they have sown.
12:37 AM on 07/15/2009
Whining Lanny Davis couldn't even organize the PUMAs (his pet project) .............. Doesn't he know that he has NO CREDIBILITY WHATSOEVER?
11:41 PM on 07/14/2009
wow,i thought lanny was holed up in a corner at the state dept. damn the bad dream is back.
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11:12 PM on 07/14/2009
It's the responsiblity of the Honduran people to secure their own freedom; that's what 'self-determination' and 'soveriegnty' both mean. It is not the president's obligation, and shouldn't be.
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12:38 AM on 07/15/2009
yup, and you still can't walk without armed guards in Iraq, eh? Is that the kind of "self-determination" you gave the Iraqi people? Is that the "sovereignty" you respected there?
11:00 PM on 07/14/2009
Best article on the Honduran military coup so far. Obama seriously needs to read this at least twice and then grow a spine. Lanny Davis has coup blood on his hands. Forget the words of a tiny, vocal segment of teabaggers. It's time for action. Rev. Bookburn - Radio Volta
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10:39 PM on 07/14/2009
Al, while I do disagree with your position, I do commend you for coming out to answer criticism on this story. It's a refreshing change of pace.