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Al Giordano

Al Giordano

Posted: December 22, 2008 10:11 AM

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(As author and sole owner of the words in this story, I did not write them for AOL, and do not wish to have any association with it imposed upon me. The original text may still be found at http://narc...
(As author and sole owner of the words in this story, I did not write them for AOL, and do not wish to have any association with it imposed upon me. The original text may still be found at http://narc...
 
 
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08:53 PM on 12/28/2008
Populist cause?! You mean royalist cause.
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01:01 AM on 12/24/2008
Misses the greatest point, but still good.

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Caroline Kennedy's open support for marriage rights for gays and lesbians in an era when top liberal Democrats can't bring themselves to support it offers the best antidote to the Rick Warren blues yet.

It is in the very best of Kennedy traditions: they're not black, but they were among the white pioneers for Civil Rights. They're not Mexican, but they've fought harder for a path to citizenship for immigrants than most Democrats. So it's no small thing that Caroline Kennedy similarly places this basic human right for gays and lesbians on the same path.
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John Kennedy's father made his fortune as a "bootlegger" when Rockefeller sponsored Prohibition, which he did to profiteer on petroleum and prevent Henry Ford from making a profit on ethanol-burning vehicles. Global warming is on the heads of the Rockefellers, and the Kennedy family was among the first civil disobedients. Historically, the Kennedy family is on our side more than their opponents are. Much more.

I'm not a New Yorker, but as an American I say that in general, we can do much worse, and not much better, than a Kennedy, any Kennedy, to represent our Best Interests in whatever post they are elected, or appointed, to hold. Rockefellers and Bushes and their friends like Karl Rove rise by manipulating people and events and markets, and they smear achievers who threaten their unearned power rather than work to retain what they have taken.
09:42 PM on 12/29/2008
Carolyn Maloney has been in support of marriage equality from the beginning. She proposed and got passed coverage for gay domestic partners under FMLA. Taking action that supports ideals impresses me more than holding them.

And Maloney is just one of the more qualified candidates who've worked for liberal ideas and actually achieved something. Consider Byron Brown, Elizabeth Holtzman, Thomas Suozzi, Nydia Velazquez, Kirsten Gillibrand, Steve Israel.

There's no need to go with a neophyte.
01:32 PM on 12/23/2008
Populists Just Say No to Aristocracies
09:16 PM on 12/23/2008
Not always: FDR was elected four times.
12:35 PM on 12/23/2008
Suggesting that this is a populist campaign because of all the plutocrats who have enough money to win this election, she's the one who cares the most about the people is absurd.

Yes, Carolyn Maloney initially voted to support the Iraq war. We don't know what Kennedy's position was at the time because she wasn't asked and wasn't tested by having to vote. We do know that Maloney repudiated her position on the war. And I'm pretty impressed when a public figure has the courage to admit that she was wrong.

Furthermore Maloney has demonstrated her committed to populist causes by enacting legislation - not by just talking about things. She was the one who made enacted legislation to include gay partners under the FMLA. She's done a lot more to advance populist causes: http://maloney.house.gov/index.php?option=com_issues&Itemid=35

So what makes a populist? Working on behalf of the people, or being the aristocrat who claims to care the most about them?
08:41 AM on 12/23/2008
I really can't believe that the people of the great state of New York would snidely say 'mind your own business' on this appointment. How could you possibly think that a Senate seat does not impact the whole nation?
The sorry outcome from Georgia reflects this point, thanks alot Georgians!
After two re-vitalizing terms with the 'Big O', another Kennedy administration and the first woman president will certainly be in order. I love that scenario!
Until the recent Pres. campaign, I had never given money to a candidate. Receiving fund raising e-mails from the Obama people, I could almost not stop myself from clicking the 'DONATE' link. At $25 a pop, I rang up a total of $325 in donations. All, may I add, with my wife's enthusiastic approval. LOL
Let me also add the fact that I am far from a rich man.
Where can I send $25 to Caroline?
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10:26 AM on 12/23/2008
"I really can't believe that the people of the great state of New York would snidely say 'mind your own business' on this appointment. How could you possibly think that a Senate seat does not impact the whole nation?"

Because it doesn't.

The Senator from New York functions as New York's voice in Washington -- not YOURS, if you don't live in New York State.

In allowing outsiders to "help" choose our Senator, we are handing over our share of the dialog to others -- and diluting it.

You have Senators of your own, who represent you -- and not us. Leave ours alone.
04:22 PM on 12/23/2008
The senators and congressmen should vote in the best interest of the United States, if it provides for the good of the whole. Because we are all affected by the actions of Congress, we have a reason to state our opinions and even to make suggestions. It is still the responsibility of the Governor of New York to make the appointment.

Each state has a legislature, where the affairs of the state are considered. There the input of out-of-state citizens is not needed.
08:03 AM on 12/23/2008
From Politico:

QUESTION 2: Same-sex marriage. Do you support the right of gay and lesbian couples to marry? Do you think it's appropriate that Rick Warren, who campaigned to ban gay marriage, is delivering the invocation at Obama's inauguration? If not, have you expressed that to the president-elect?

ANSWER: "Caroline supports full equality and marriage rights for gay and lesbian couples."

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When a minority's civil rights have been abused for, well, all of recorded history, and that minority is joined by friends and family to form an historic groundswell, leadership must emerge as well.

True leadership involves potential personal loss for the leader as well as for those in the movement.

Risk
Human Rights values versus Political values and, in this case, Religious Values
Ability to comprehend defining moments

Caroline Kennedy has joined this civil rights movement.

She has done it with the full understanding that her personal life will never be the same.
And I am grateful.
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04:47 AM on 12/23/2008
I don't know if Caroline is Senate material or not. But that is true for nearly all of the names mentioned. We should do away with Governors appointing replacements and have a special elections to decide the race within 180 days of the vacancy. That is plenty of time for canidates to debate. Not much time to raise money, but then presumably the elction could be decided on the ability of the canidates to debate one another and answer questions during media interviews. No money for push polling, negative ads, mud slinging.........and by taking the Governors out of the equation and putting the decision directly into the hands of the voters, we would have a more honest democratic process. And don't even claim that these special elections would be too expensive. Both parties have more than enough money to give the states to pay the cost. These parties have a vested interest in who gets elected - let them contribute to make up for any shortfall in the state's budget related to the cost of the special election.
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02:11 AM on 12/23/2008
It's truly amazing how blind partisanship undermines the search for the common good.

It's inconceivable that any person who wasn't a scion of a political family who had never been elected to a single office, never held a regular job, hadn't even voted regularly and hadn't even registered to vote until she was 31 would have even the REMOTEST chance of being considered for senator of ANY state.

HL Mencken got it right when he said that the American people get the government they deserve.
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02:05 AM on 12/23/2008
The rich, the well-born, and the able, acquire and influence among the people that will soon be too much for simple honesty and plain sense, in a house of representatives. The most illustrious of them must, therefore, be separated from the mass, and placed by themselves in a senate; this is, to all honest and useful intents, an ostracism.
-John Adams, A Defense of the Constitutions of Government of the United States of America, vol 1, 1787
01:43 AM on 12/23/2008
Poor New Yorkers: Leaderhsip is imposed by the elites. Now this post want to tell us that it's a populist campaign. First Hillary clinton into a job she did not want to a second banana position she did not want either. And, now a Kennedy that must be prodded for a political position.
11:18 PM on 12/22/2008
"[T]here's a real drought of senators that understand or care to defend our Constitutional freedoms."

" . . . every time somebody makes a crack about her as a "princess" or "doing her nails" . . . "

You're offering facts. CKS's detractors have offered a smoke screen of nonsense and vitriol. Thank you for this VERY important post--and especially, for calling that other writer out on her unworthy, sexist "doing her nails" crack. It's a good thing when speaking truth and stating facts helps to improve real peoples' lives--and that's what you've accomplished here! Nicely done.
10:51 PM on 12/22/2008
What is most unsettling to Caroline Kennedy’s critics is that nobody really knows the stuff that she is made of because she has been a private person– but this is also to her advantage. Her critics have pushed a narrative of low expectations and political naivety. If she becomes the US Senator, they do not really know how she is going to define herself. A family legacy of hard work and political greatness is on her side. The unknown, like change, is frightening to many people.

We do know that she grew up without a father because he was slain as President of the United States. We do know that she has lived in the shadow of politics her entire life. We can rest assure that she carries all this kind of stuff with her. Caroline Kennedy’s life story maybe more compelling than the average American realizes.
11:19 PM on 12/22/2008
There are hundreds of children who've lost parents in the Iraq war. I know that a President is more famous than any individual member of our armed forces, but I think that to a child, the lost of a father is no less a tragedy just because that father isn't famous.

If I were to hire an employee, the argument "you don't know what I'm capable of" would not make me choose the person with the thinnest resume. Nor would "people in my family work really hard" Nor would "a lot of people find change frightening"

When someone becomes a senator, they are a public servant. We have a right to know what our senators are made of. Furthermore, when there are candidates who have already worked successfully to advance the causes we believe in, why should we cast them aside for the sake of a neophyte who has only developed an interest in politics at the age of 51. 51 is a little old to be asking for a job based on potential.

Compelling life stories are great for Lifetime movies. I want someone with a compelling list of legislative achievements when I'm looking for a senator.
11:23 PM on 12/22/2008
Clarification: The reason I mention the children of soldiers who've been killed in Iraq, is that I don't see them getting senate seats as 50th birthday presents.

I just hate the idea that the deaths of famous people are more important than the deaths of other people. That and the idea that rich people are less corruptible than working-class people offends me. As if the crimes on the business section page were committed by people making $50k a year.
09:34 PM on 12/22/2008
Can someone please tell me what Caroline is carrying in that prop of a briefcase she's now hauling around? Certainly NOT her resume..too funny.
09:49 PM on 12/22/2008
Kleenex, makeup, medications, credit cards, a map of New York State.
09:19 PM on 12/22/2008
As a so-called Constitutional expert, Caroline should be concerned that the NYC DOE constrains principals and teachers from speaking out publicly and retaliates when they do. How come in all the time that Caroline "raised funds" for the DOE, she never met with parents? How many public school parents does she know? How many public school parents are her friends? What does she really know about public school and the concerns of public school parents? Nothing. Otherwise she would not support Joel Klein. In a recent survey, more than 70% of public school parents gave Klein a poor job rating. Nearly 10,000 educators, parents, and advocates from across the country signed petitions opposing Klein for Secretary of Education. Aside from the NYC DOE, which Caroline worked for because she is best friends since college with Joel Klein's wife, what public service has she done? No one can name other public service she has done. While being on the board of the American Ballet Theatre and heading up the Profiles in Courage prize are worthwhile endeavors, they hardly constitute public service. Giordano must think the public is stupid. No doubt Caroline is an intelligent and well educated woman, but there are millions just like her. Andrew Cuomo or Nydia Vaaquez or someone from upstate would be much better candidates
09:18 PM on 12/22/2008
The last thing we need is another senator who supports the disastrous NCLB. If Caroline follows Uncle Ted's hard line on the disastrous NCLB, that alone should be reason enough to oppose her. Her "fundraising" for the Department of Education is exaggerated. Notice no one who extols her fundraising success mentions the funders or the projects her efforts are directly responsible for. Most of the private funds were donated because of relationships with Bloomberg--the rich support their friends. The big funders such as Gates and Broad did not provide funding because of Caroline. Perhaps most offensive, are the Bloomberg-Klein "reforms" she supports, which are totally counter to the kind of education she chose for her own children. If the Bloomberg-Klein "reforms" are so good, why doesn't Caroline advocate them for Brearly and Collegiate? Giordano's commentary and quotations on education are pure spin, without any basis in fact. Training principals! The private funding for the DOE Principals Academy is no longer privately funded--private funds could not be raised for this program that costs over $100,000 to produce anew principal and has a terrible track record of producing good ones. Improving middle schools! The NYC middle schools are a disaster. Read the report by the Annenberg Institute for School Reform and their colleagues. New transparency! Talk to NYC public school parents about transparency. They feel there is none and that there is no access to decision makers. Ask journalists about the lack of access to information.