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Say Goodbye to the Wal-Mart Greeters

Posted: 02/ 1/2012 7:39 am

News that Wal-Mart soon will be removing its "people greeters" from the mouth of every store across America was ironic given how hard it was for Sam Walton to get them there in the first place.

According to Tom Coughlin, Wal-Mart's former COO and Vice Chairman of the Board [who defrauded his company and pled guilty in 2007 to six felony counts of wire fraud and filing false tax returns] Walton had to "throw fits" for a year and a half before greeters were accepted.

"Sam just kept pushing and pushing and pushing," Coughlin wrote in Made in America, Walton's 1992 autobiography. "Every week, every meeting, he'd talk about greeters...Gradually he wore everybody down and got his way."

Walton apparently stumbled onto a greeter at a small Wal-Mart in Louisiana in 1980. The greeter, who Couglin called an"older gentleman," explained to Walton that he had a "dual purpose: to make people feel good about coming in, and to make sure people weren't walking back out the entrance with merchandise they hadn't paid for."

The manager of that Louisiana Wal-Mart was trying to reduce shrinkage at the store -- shop-lifting. "He didn't want to intimidate the honest customers by posting a guard at the door, but he wanted to leave a clear message that if you came in and stole, someone was there who would see it."

Apparently Walton was smitten with the double-agent role of the greeter: the 'hello' coming in, the 'cop' going out. "Sam thought that was the greatest idea he'd ever heard of." Coughlin remembers. He claims Mr. Sam was vindicated years later when he walked into a Kmart and was welcomed by a people greeter. Now many major retailers post these comedian cops near the front entrance.

Sam Walton himself did not talk much publicly about the cop side of the greeters. In his book. Walton noted that "some of our people greeters...use their high profile positions to have a little fun." Like the greeter in Huntsville, Arkansas who used to dress up in costumes for local folk holidays like Hawgfest. Walton described the greeter as an example of how his company liked to "thrive on a lot of the traditions of small town America, especially parades with marching bands, cheerleaders, drill teams and floats." And Greeters.

But now the fun is over. Sam Walton's "greatest idea" is dead -- apparently a victim of the recession -- several thousand greeters are coming in from the cold, to circulate around the store, helping customers find cheap Chinese underwear, and other useful functions.

Thus ends the 32 year run of the Greeter. Like most concepts at Wal-Mart, the Greeter was not what it appeared to be on the surface. Most shoppers at Wal-Mart understood that the smiley folks in the vest with "How May I Help You?" on the back were just disguised members of the loss prevention team at Wal-Mart -- a reminder that cheap goods not only attract shoppers, they attract criminals as well.

If, as Tom Coughlin says, Sam Walton wanted to use greeters to send "a warm, friendly message to the good customer," it didn't work. Wal-Mart has been called many things over the years, but "warm and friendly" is not one of them. It's impossible to make a 200,000 square foot superstore with concrete floors "warm and friendly." The Greeter was a contrived, awkward position -- a stand-up comedian at a sliding glass door.

If Wal-Mart wants to convince the public that it is an inviting place to shop, it can begin by treating its own workers better. Every time Wal-Mart "associates" get their pay check, they are reminded what a disappointing experience it is to put on a Wal-Mart vest.

Happier employees would truly brighten up the store like no greeter ever could. No need for marching bands or drill teams. Wal-Mart workers need to be greeted with a bigger paycheck -- enough to keep their family off food stamps and Medicaid.

Knowing that Wal-Mart cares more about the people who do its work, would go a long way towards making people "feel good about coming in."

Coughlin admits that when Sam Walton first tried to push the people greeters idea, "a lot of people thought he'd lost his mind." Looking back, those people were probably right.

Al Norman is the founder of Sprawl-Busters. For almost 20 years, he has been a leading citizen-activist, helping neighborhood groups fight big box sprawl.

 
 
 
 
 
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01:16 AM on 03/08/2012
i was a door greeter and i'm an average college student, i got moved to maintance and cut hrs....we need to stand and not be tread upon
05:10 PM on 02/26/2012
I believe that Wal-Mart workers are underpaid and mistreated. Like Norman said, this is a problem that can and should be fixed by the cooperation. Also, I do believe that the store could benefit greatly from the employees being treated better. Treating employees better would in fact brighten up the store. However, in response to the greeters at the front door, I believe that they serve more of a purpose than most people assume. They can do many other things besides just standing behind a door and saying “hi” to people. As Crystal Dawn Wireman argues, greeters are in charge of “keeping the front clean, making sure there are plenty of carts available, as well as… helping customers find items.” In addition to this list, they keep watch for people who are trying to walk out the front door with items that haven’t been payed for. As soon as the greeters are pulled from the entrance of Wal-Mart stores, the amount of items stolen from Wal-Mart will go up dramatically. Greeters are valuable parts of Wal-Mart stores and they would be even better if they were paid and treated better.
01:20 AM on 02/21/2012
I live in a small town in Idaho, and my observations parallel RichiB’s observation that “Wal-Mart would come into a town and destroy all the small businesses.” My first job was at the small Kmart store in the mall. Wal-Mart started building, and in less than a year, Kmart closed its doors, and the downtown community had shrunk. I later worked at Wal-Mart, and the only people assigned to work enough hours to receive benefits were the managers. I’m sure we had a greeter, but I don’t recall being affected by their presence; however, I was disturbed to be required to participate in what I felt was a rather cultish ‘cheerleading’ ritual prior to opening the doors every morning. It was, as I recall, a rather awkward and unpleasant place to work, prompting me to move on to greener retail pastures three months from the date I was hired. I was intrigued to learn that Sam Walton’s corporate executives did not support his implementation of the greeter, and in fact had to be pushed until Walton got his way. I agree with Al Norman’s stance that the loss of a greeter won’t make Wal-Mart any worse than it already is, but that paying its employees well and giving them benefits would make it a better place to work.
02:29 AM on 02/04/2012
I’d like to say that yes, Walmart could be treating employees better. It is true there, but at other companies as well. I feel like this entire article is just plain Walmart bashing. You have to know a Walmart employee or two, especially a Greeter, before you decide to go and belittle what they do. A People Greeter DOES help keep thefts down. But this is not their only function, along with "to make people feel good about coming in". As with my local store, Greeters have more than that function. They smile and say hello when you walk in. Other job duties include keeping the front clean, making sure there are plenty of carts available, as well as "express refunds" and helping customers find items. Greeters also keep the entrance a safe place, constantly mopping floors during downpours, making sure salt has been sprinkled during cold weather. A Greeter is not "a stand-up comedian at a sliding glass door". A Greeter is a friendly face for a child, offering stickers (which all children love) and someone to go to in case they get lost. Many greeters who are well over 70, who aren't able to perform the tasks assigned to them, once the changes take place at all stores, changes NOT mentioned here. These greeters have often been doing the work for the better part of thirty years. But it makes no mention of how the workers feel. Just how awful Walmart is.
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sonoflars
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07:14 AM on 02/02/2012
Tooo funny. This is America. We deserve Walmart. We elected people who's votes could be purchases for a few pieces of silver and we got Walmart and the rest of the job killing big box stores that have destroyed every small business in their path. We lost almost every main street business in America and in return we get to buy cheap crap from China! What a deal. There is a Walmart Super Store in Michigan that I used to drive by on my way to Lansing. It sits right next to the massive trailer park. My first thought was, "how convenient".
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Kai-HK
Don't Share My Wealth! Share My Work Ethic!
04:05 AM on 02/02/2012
It is great to see Wal-Mart exercise some fiscal discretion to ensure that it is running efficiently, which is the greatest benefit it can provide its employees.

Keep up the great work Wal-Mart we support you. Ignore the all the union propaganda and h*ters. You are a great American institution that provides gateway jobs to low marginal value workers and ultimately benefits all the communities in which you are located.

Kai
11:51 PM on 02/01/2012
Has anyone here read "The Richest Man in Town" by V.J. Smith? go find it and read it. Although its about a cashier, what Marty makes people feel is how the greeters make me feel at my local Wal-Mart. Have they learned nothing from Marty?

If they get rid of greeters, Walmart will be no fun. They make us happy when we enter the store.

I say that if the greeters go.....I WILL GO STAND THERE MYSELF AND GREET PEOPLE! NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, EVEN IF I GOT ARRESTED, I WOULD STILLL GO BACK AND GREET PEOPLE!!!!

I KNOW SOME OF THE GREETERS AT MY WAL-MART WHO WOULD DO THE SAME!!!!!!!!

THE PEOPLE THEY MAKE HAPPY IS ENOUGH FOR THEM!
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Rochelle MacDonald
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09:20 PM on 02/01/2012
Watch, the greeter will be back in less than a year's time. Since Walmart allows people to return an item w/o a receipt and issue a gift card, it is a fairly simple thing to walk into the store with an empty/used Wal Mart bag, grab an item off the shelf and carry it up to the customer service desk for a "refund". Then all the thief needs to do is use her newly acquired gift card to make purchases that she can use. The greeters mark every customer who is bringing in merchandise for return with a ticket on the item being returned.

Stuffing merchandise in pockets or handbags is so 20th century. Today the stores hand the stuff right to the thieves.
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Scott Leland
11:43 AM on 02/02/2012
Yes, I too noticed that the "Greeter" takes the place of the security guard at the entrance of Target stores. Very perceptive of you. The stores though, have you sign a receipt that enters your name in a database so that if you return too many items they will flag you.
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oilcan821
06:18 PM on 02/01/2012
my wife and i shop a meijers, or sears, or mom &pop stores in our area. we don't shop at walmart, we haven't spent a dime in a walmart since sam died! at least he stocked many american made products, but when his greedy kids pushed out the american made for cheap china throw-away crap, we spend our money in unionized stores that stock more american made products!
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Doc Marten
05:03 PM on 02/01/2012
What's really going to kill Wal-Mart is Amazon and other online retailers. They are much cheaper and you don't have to leave home. For me, I go to Costco. Their quality is better than Wal Mart's, and they have UNION EMPLOYEES who actually get a living wage and LIKE working there.
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SoylentGreenIsPeople
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04:39 PM on 02/01/2012
My local Walmart uses Police officers as greeters now.
03:25 PM on 02/01/2012
"a reminder that cheap goods not only attract shoppers, they attract criminals as well."

This is the stupidest remark I ever heard! Doens't any retailer attract criminals not just the ones who carry "cheep goods"
a few examples:
any bank (service retail)
Best Buy
Home Depo
Ralph Lauren
Ambercombie and Fitch

Like I said the stupidest remark I ever heard.

Also amazingly enough, there are an increasing number of retailers that are implimenting a people greeter in one form or another in their stores (aka) loss prevention associates. I have seen them at Best Buy, Albertson's and Smith's just to name a few. Now why would they do that? hum possiably because it works at least to some degree.
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DG in SLC
03:23 PM on 02/01/2012
I never EVER show my receipt up on exiting at any store (except Costco where I pay for a membership that states I have to show my receipt upon exiting). When asked I say, "No." Politely, but still "No." I only once had one greeter try to stop me and I told him, again politely, that I was not showing my receipt to prove I purchased something. He didn't push the matter.

Actually I usually felt sorry for them sitting 5 feet inside the door where they were exposed to constant temp flux and extreme weather from outside. If I'm reading this article correctly though, it appears they will still be employed just now it will be inside the store helping customers find things. For that I say great!
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Moder8tion
03:50 PM on 02/01/2012
What kind of rude person wouldn't show their receipt at Cosco? I could see if you just had a pizza or box of cereal but still....
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spinotter11
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03:02 PM on 02/01/2012
I don't like having someone posted at the entrance, telling me if I can bring my backpack in or must check it. I'm glad that they are getting rid of that job.
02:48 PM on 02/01/2012
a lot of these greeters were special needs people.walmart received tax credits and reimbursements from state and federal government.we the people(taxpayers) paid for this